What's wrong with people these days?

[Mikkel]

Anyway, I took the cage to uni today since it might start pissing down later and my legs are fucked anyhow...
So after having dropped off my better half I find myself sitting at some of the very very slow lights on my way out to Uni. The car in front of me, a red Supra, all of the sudden expels a smoking cigarette butt right out onto the road.

Now, I can get quite ranty about shithead drivers who can't wrap their heads around efficient traffic flow, who doesn't care to look or indicate before turning or changing lanes, etc. I also find it bad manners to smoke in your car unless you keep your windows closed. Usually I don't get pissed off enough to actually do something about it. ...but not today!

Knowing that the lights are usually red for quite a time I got out of my car, a bit shaky since I was pissed off. Walked up, picked up the butt, handed it back to the fat bitch (sorry, but she was actually) saying "Sorry, I think you dropped something." She replied "Oh, thank you." Walked down and got back into the car. Man, I was pissed off. The way some people behave, either they are completely oblivious to the fact that there's a world out there that they have to share with the rest of us or they simply don't give a fuck.

Funny though, that this was what it took to set me off enough to actually go out and address the issue.

So how's your day been so far?

[007XX]

So how's your day been so far?

:eek:crickey! Better than yours, by the sound of it! You feisty little thang you...:whistle:

But yes, I agree...most people are selfish and should really get injected with a healthy does of Give A Toss...

Silver lining: they're not all like that! :sunny:

[Ragingrob]

That is awesome!

[MSTRS]

Pah. I'd just wait for you to split up the side, gently ease to a stop beside me at the front of the queue, reach out my window and tidily deposit my roll-up butt in your left pocket.:stoogie:
Anti-smokers :spanking:

[Devil]

Yep, i'm firmly in the "use a fucking bin, because thats what they're there for" camp.
Cigarette butts everywhere piss me off.

Yuck.

[Finn]

If you did that to me I would stub it out on your little weasel face, get out of my car, get in yours, pull down my pants and drop a steamy one on your seat.

Next time, mind your own business. Bloody do-gooders.

[marioc]

"I also find it bad manners to smoke in your car unless you keep your windows closed."

errr wtf...

[Drew]

Jebus people will moan about anything on here. I have a bad habbit of tossing my fag ends out the window too, fair enough, I shouldn't litter, but HTFU. The street sweaper gets most of them.

You were driving a car, expelling noxious gasses into the atmosphere, hope you planted a tree to make up for it, and one for the return trip home.

You guessed it, I hate hippies.

[Finn]

"I also find it bad manners to smoke in your car unless you keep your windows closed."

errr wtf...

I think he was taught that little gem in school.

[Mikkel]

This is not about the smokers really. It's about littering while driving. If she'd been throwing something else out I'd still have confronted her with it.

One thing I found absolutely wonderful about NZ 4 years ago was that you never saw anyone throwing stuff out of their cars or on the street while walking. Now a days I see it every day and yes it is not cool. If you think it is cool, then you quite frankly need to get a reality check - someone else will have to pick up your mess unless we're to walk around in shit up to our necks.

As for smoking: :Offtopic:
While I don't give a toss about how you choose to defile your own lungs, I do find it disturbing when I get bothered by someoneelse smoking in their car on my way to work... in my car... with my windows closed...
So yeah, that is bad manners, just as if I got up at 3 am and chose to crank my amp up to 11 and hold a small charity concert for the benefit of insomiacs.

[GurlRacer]

Wow...

I'm a non smoker, but, every other teenage (or damn close to it!) smokes here in Norway. I'm always asked if I want a smoke, or a snus (the black kind of powder you put on your gum, like smoking without the smoke), but I always refuse. My friends all smoke in front of me, and I don't have a problem with it. They choose to smoke, I don't, simple. If you don't like it, move away. As for, getting shitty about her throwing her butt out the window, because she had her window down and smoking, did you think about the emissions your car/bike was letting out into the atmosphere?? And if she had children in the car, wouldn't she be doing a good thing by having the window down? Forgive me if I'm wrong, coz I haven't been in NZ for a long time, but isn't that what they encourage you to do???

As far as I'm concerned, smoking causes health problems, but what doesn't? And emissions cause much more damage than that. Get out and walk or take a public transport, coz obviously you live in a city. Her smoke isn't the problem, your smoke is.

[The Lone Rider]

Good on you Mik. Thats quite a funny story.

I've had a cig nearly hit me in the face one day while on my bike. And dont even get me started on the cocks that throw glass bottles out their windows!

[Mikkel]

Jebus people will moan about anything on here. I have a bad habbit of tossing my fag ends out the window too, fair enough, I shouldn't litter, but HTFU. The street sweaper gets most of them.

You were driving a car, expelling noxious gasses into the atmosphere, hope you planted a tree to make up for it, and one for the return trip home.

You guessed it, I hate hippies.

Ditto - and yeah, I pay for my own petrol and the environmental charges that comes with it. And frankly I wouldn't mind paying more for it if that meant people would be more conscious of the impact it has. Also, I eat my steak with pleasure and I pay for it too.

Littering is not about HTFU, it's about being anti-social and not facing up to your resposibilities as a citizen. As someone has said - there's a real world out there where your actions do have consequences. As such, unless you're actively striving to be an asshole and piss everyone off, you should at least clean up your own mess. I.e. grow up and accept your obligations as an adult, fucking sad if you have to have younger people come up and educate you on how to behave like an adult is all I can say.

[heyjoe]

Gutsy actions!! Woo hoo. To the point and assertive. Still in control.

I wonder if she told anyone of this event later in her day? And how she would have painted the story.

Hope u had a better day after this.

[deanohit]

or a snus (the black kind of powder you put on your gum, like smoking without the smoke),
Agh, horrible stuff.

I agree with you Mikkel that there is too much litter around and people are too casual about throwing rubbish on the ground. As for ciggie butts, thats why there is an ashtry in the car, use it guys. I'm not anti-smoking, I love having a cigar every now and again, I'm just anti-litter.

[kevfromcoro]

"I also find it bad manners to smoke in your car unless you keep your windows closed."

errr wtf...

Holem Horsey..i dont smoke in anyone elses car
But if i wish to smoke in my i own car ..I Will
And dont through the buts out the window.

[James Deuce]

It's funny you know, I ask myself that question every day.

Interesting to see you get bent out of shape about littering but you've no issue with mocking "retards".

[BuFfY]

My dad threw a butt out his window once, my sis was in the back seat and it came back in the window and landed on her leg, and burnt it. Dad gave up smoking for a while after that.
I think it is disgusting as well. There is so much crap all over the roads these days, and sure, it gives the street sweepers a job, but it is a pretty shitty job!!
I personally keep my rubbish in my car :D (maybe the street sweepers should clean my car instead)

[Drew]

Ditto - and yeah, I pay for my own petrol and the environmental charges that comes with it. And frankly I wouldn't mind paying more for it if that meant people would be more conscious of the impact it has. Also, I eat my steak with pleasure and I pay for it too.

Littering is not about HTFU, it's about being anti-social and not facing up to your resposibilities as a citizen. As someone has said - there's a real world out there where your actions do have consequences. As such, unless you're actively striving to be an asshole and piss everyone off, you should at least clean up your own mess. I.e. grow up and accept your obligations as an adult, fucking sad if you have to have younger people come up and educate you on how to behave like an adult is all I can say.

I hadn't really thought about the environmental impact of flicking a butt out the window, spose after a few years it would add up, but that doesn't mean I need to educated by somebody younger. The HTFU was in regards to your bitching on here about it, which is clearly just an attention seeking endevour for fuck sake. Who needs to grow up when that is taken into account? Am I antisocial for having moments of thoughtlessness? Perhaps, are your statements grosly generalising that smokers shouldn't do so in public antisocial? No question, by the very definition YES.


Dont preach to me boyo, you have no idea what my beliefs are, nor where I stand on any environmental issue for that matter. And a grown up would be less condescending than what you replied to me with, and perhaps take a tad more time to formulate a calm and informed response.

[avgas]

Butts - Keeps NZ homeless smoking.

[Drew]

Butts - Keeps NZ homeless smoking.

Which in turn kills them off with cancer.

WE'RE DOIN A PUBLIC SERVICE BY LITTERING I TELL YA!!!

[skelstar]

Good old KB, winging bitchy worthless threads like this will go some way to prevent me from spreading the KB word thats for sure.

[MSTRS]

Good old KB, winging bitchy worthless threads like this will go some way to prevent me from spreading the KB word thats for sure.

Someone else is grumpy today...:calm:

[scumdog]

If you did that to me I would stub it out on your little weasel face, get out of my car, get in yours, pull down my pants and drop a steamy one on your seat.

Next time, mind your own business. Bloody do-gooders.

Don't worry about dropping a turd - wheres me seegarrrs??

[BuFfY]

His profile does say he likes 'litterature' :D

[James Deuce]

Someone else is grumpy today...:calm:
He's suffering from "The Wrong Suzuki syndrome".

[scumdog]

Good old KB, winging bitchy worthless threads like this will go some way to prevent me from spreading the KB word thats for sure.

That's the story, you get in there sonny and spread the good vibes, get some non-whingy positive worthwhile threads goin' eh?
And tell all your mates to read it on KB too eh!:girlfight::lol::laugh::killingme:nya:

[devnull]

Thank-you for holding your breath while I smoke :doobey:

Too many tofu-munching, caftan-wearing, tree-huggers in NZ... that we aren't allowed to shoot at (yet)

[yod]

I also find it bad manners to smoke in your car unless you keep your windows closed.

wtf??

so you're saying people shouldn't be allowed to smoke outside??


:laugh:

[skelstar]

That's the story, you get in there sonny and spread the good vibes, get some non-whingy positive worthwhile threads goin' eh?
Been trying my best mate, but had a decent go at raising some worth while discussion a while ago about bike tech, but seriously people would rather talk about each others arse. I'll post a bike review soon but fear no-one will recognise it as it will be ...shock horror ...bike related!!!

[Drew]

That's the story, you get in there sonny and spread the good vibes, get some non-whingy positive worthwhile threads goin' eh?
And tell all your mates to read it on KB too eh!:girlfight::lol::laugh::killingme:nya:


Bwahahahahaha, sarcasm is always the best response I think.

Do you not agree that the whinging about anything people can think of is gettin just a little over the top around here. I can say that most of the threads I've started are all about the finer things in life, but given the current ratio, I dont tell bikers I meet to join in the fun on here, cos it's embarracing how much drivel has to be filtered through.

No...I dont want to leave because I am entertained by a lot of it, and dont take much of it seriously, I just want the whinging to slow dowm so I can tell more people to come on and look at pictures of my race bike, or me doin wheelies, or anything else I've done cos I'm an egomaniac.

[scumdog]

Bwahahahahaha, sarcasm is always the best response I think.

Do you not agree that the whinging about anything people can think of is gettin just a little over the top around here. .

Hell yeah - skelstar even whinged about people whinging.:killingme

This place is like real life - only funnier!!:clap:

[deanohit]

I'd rather be listening to peolple whinging on here where you can give them shit than listen to people whinging on Corro Street.

[Drew]

Hell yeah - skelstar even whinged about people whinging.:killingme

This place is like real life - only funnier!!:clap:

Oh the irony of it all, you whinged about him, and I whinged about you. Bwahahahahahahaha.

I love stealing threads, let's do it more often.:rockon:


Funny doesn't begin to describe it, halarity and hysterical laughter are more appropriate in my readings.

[James Deuce]

Mikkel! Engage in public you wuss. The rep system isn't there as a weapon or a debating tool. It's so you can agree or disagree.

The issues are related. You'll get bent out of shape about littering, but you're unable to see or understand that good citizenship extends to being able to have compassion for people who, despite not really being able to look after themselves, still do their damnedest to succeed at whatever they can.

I did read your response and it was a thinly veiled series of excuses as why it is OK to mock "retards". "Senior member" carries no kudos at all. It just means you have no life and have to live by proxy on an Internet Forum.

Littering? You know what a "citizen" would have done? Picked the butt up, thrown it away and gone about their day without looking for a pat on the back.

[Mikkel]

Yeah yeah, I guess you won. You stole my thread - you deserve it. But Drew, don't think for a second I wasn't calm when I wrote the response above, and I do still stand by it.

Now I guess I'll just STFU and make people happy instead. Have fun littering guys, you certainly did a good job of it with this thread.

As for attention - I certainly got more in that regard than I had both desired and expected. I desired none and expected only little. This was more about speaking up and addressing an issue that you feel about instead of doing the same old thing - getting annoyed and doing nothing. And trust me when I say that I wasn't at all enjoying it.

[scumdog]

". "Senior member" carries no kudos at all. It just means you have no life and have to live by proxy on an Internet Forum.

Littering? You know what a "citizen" would have done? Picked the butt up, thrown it away and gone about their day without looking for a pat on the back.


You make it sound sort of so so wrong to not have a life!!!:weep:

And a 'citizen' wouldn't have thrown their spittle-soaked nicotine riddled dog-end out of the window in the first palce.

[Drew]

Mikkel! Engage in public you wuss. The rep system isn't there as a weapon or a debating tool. It's so you can agree or disagree.

The issues are related. You'll get bent out of shape about littering, but you're unable to see or understand that good citizenship extends to being able to have compassion for people who, despite not really being able to look after themselves, still do their damnedest to succeed at whatever they can.

I did read your response and it was a thinly veiled series of excuses as why it is OK to mock "retards". "Senior member" carries no kudos at all. It just means you have no life and have to live by proxy on an Internet Forum.

Littering? You know what a "citizen" would have done? Picked the butt up, thrown it away and gone about their day without looking for a pat on the back.

Carefull there bro, ya just know he's out spreading rep to throw more red at you next time ya make a good argument with facts and well placed character digs.


BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. I love KB, how else could I avoid mowing my lawns when there is no paying work to do for the day?

[BuFfY]

Yeah yeah, I guess you won. You stole my thread - you deserve it. But Drew, don't think for a second I wasn't calm when I wrote the response above, and I do still stand by it.

Now I guess I'll just STFU and make people happy instead. Have fun littering guys, you certainly did a good job of it with this thread.

As for attention - I certainly got more in that regard than I had both desired and expected. I desired none and expected only little. This was more about speaking up and addressing an issue that you feel about instead of doing the same old thing - getting annoyed and doing nothing. And trust me when I say that I wasn't at all enjoying it.

I think it is awesome you stood up for what you believe in. So many people wouldn't do anything about it and would just bitch about it.
Good on ya for trying to keep New Zealand beautiful :sunny:

[Drew]

Now I guess I'll just STFU and make people happy instead. Have fun littering guys, you certainly did a good job of it with this thread.



Jebus man, HTFU. Can you not see that although we are going about it with a bit of extra zest for the fun of it, we are trying to impress that the thread was shit to start with?

It's been entertaining tho, cheers for the laugh.:clap:

[Mikkel]

Mikkel! Engage in public you wuss. The rep system isn't there as a weapon or a debating tool. It's so you can agree or disagree.

The issues are related. You'll get bent out of shape about littering, but you're unable to see or understand that good citizenship extends to being able to have compassion for people who, despite not really being able to look after themselves, still do their damnedest to succeed at whatever they can.

I did read your response and it was a thinly veiled series of excuses as why it is OK to mock "retards". "Senior member" carries no kudos at all. It just means you have no life and have to live by proxy on an Internet Forum.

Littering? You know what a "citizen" would have done? Picked the butt up, thrown it away and gone about their day without looking for a pat on the back.

:Offtopic:

Oh, well. I guess we're square then. I can't help but feel that no matter what I would have replied to you, your opinion of it would still be that it would have been "a thinly veiled series of excuses as why it is OK to mock "retards"". As I said, I wasn't mocking people suffering from a disability outside their own control...

As for not engaging in public, I gave you rep instead of replying to your first thread because 1) It was offtopic as far as I was concerned 2) I disagreed with your comment.

:Offtopic:

As for asking for a pat on the back - I never did. It was never meant as a bid for approval by anyone here. Of course it would be a catch-22 to even bring up whether I had indeed ever done anything to clean up other peoples mess - because now I would of course just be asking for a pat on the back.

[jrandom]

I like to save my cigarette butts up in the car so that I can throw them, in big confetti-like bunches, at Honda riders.

[mynameis]

Anyway, I took the cage to uni today since it might start pissing down later and my legs are fucked anyhow...
So after having dropped off my better half I find myself sitting at some of the very very slow lights on my way out to Uni. The car in front of me, a red Supra, all of the sudden expels a smoking cigarette butt right out onto the road.

Now, I can get quite ranty about shithead drivers who can't wrap their heads around efficient traffic flow, who doesn't care to look or indicate before turning or changing lanes, etc. I also find it bad manners to smoke in your car unless you keep your windows closed. Usually I don't get pissed off enough to actually do something about it. ...but not today!

Knowing that the lights are usually red for quite a time I got out of my car, a bit shaky since I was pissed off. Walked up, picked up the butt, handed it back to the fat bitch (sorry, but she was actually) saying "Sorry, I think you dropped something." She replied "Oh, thank you." Walked down and got back into the car. Man, I was pissed off. The way some people behave, either they are completely oblivious to the fact that there's a world out there that they have to share with the rest of us or they simply don't give a fuck.

Funny though, that this was what it took to set me off enough to actually go out and address the issue.

So how's your day been so far?

Are you ovulating and having monthly issues again little boy?

[boomer]

This is not about the smokers really. It's about littering while driving. If she'd been throwing something else out I'd still have confronted her with it.

One thing I found absolutely wonderful about NZ 4 years ago was that you never saw anyone throwing stuff out of their cars or on the street while walking. Now a days I see it every day and yes it is not cool. If you think it is cool, then you quite frankly need to get a reality check - someone else will have to pick up your mess unless we're to walk around in shit up to our necks.

As for smoking: :Offtopic:
While I don't give a toss about how you choose to defile your own lungs, I do find it disturbing when I get bothered by someoneelse smoking in their car on my way to work... in my car... with my windows closed...
So yeah, that is bad manners, just as if I got up at 3 am and chose to crank my amp up to 11 and hold a small charity concert for the benefit of insomiacs.

your an idiot.. you could say the same about pedestrians having to breathe in your toxic exhaust fumes...


Sit down and shut up you attention seeking whore.


IDJIOT !

[nodrog]

your an idiot.. you could say the same about pedestrians having to breathe in your toxic exhaust fumes...


Sit down and shut up you attention seeking whore.


IDJIOT !

to be fair he might have re routed the exhaust gas back inside the car through some sort of hose device to save those pedestrains?

[NinjaNanna]

Good on you!!!!

That select group of smokers that drop their butts out the window is one of my pet peeves as well - though as brave as I wish I could be I'd never risk the confrontation of addressing it with the person (been on the wrong end of road rage once - never again). But I must ask would you have been so bold if it had have been a 150kg Criminal Lookalike that flicked the butt?

Personnally I wish the govt would grow some balls and legislate to raise the legal age by a year each and every year until this latest generation of smokers are all dead.

If your 18 and you've already made your choice to smoke fine by me I'll support your civil right to keep smoking (and pay your medical bills) until your old and then dead but it seems blatent stupidity to me to allow our kids to continue to be exposed to this addiction when the solution seems so simple to me.

Oh did I say something controversial.

Nanna by name nanna by nature.

[Str8 Jacket]

Yeah yeah, I guess you won. You stole my thread - you deserve it. But Drew, don't think for a second I wasn't calm when I wrote the response above, and I do still stand by it.

Now I guess I'll just STFU and make people happy instead. Have fun littering guys, you certainly did a good job of it with this thread.

As for attention - I certainly got more in that regard than I had both desired and expected. I desired none and expected only little. This was more about speaking up and addressing an issue that you feel about instead of doing the same old thing - getting annoyed and doing nothing. And trust me when I say that I wasn't at all enjoying it.

Someone obviously needs a hug!

[boomer]

hey, i agree .. littering is not nice.

However coming onto a bike site to whine and moan .. he needs to get out more.

Either that or join up to that site that takes pictures of such behavior.

And yeah Gordie.. i agree; one less moron to watch out for on the streets. And for goodness sakes... Who stops in the middle of a race to get out of his/her car..??!!!!

[scumdog]

your an idiot.. you could say the same about pedestrians having to breathe in your toxic exhaust fumes...


Sit down and shut up you attention seeking whore.


IDJIOT !

C'mon dude, you post all manner of shit and don't seem to give a fat rats arse about my eyes being violated by your posted crap....:whistle::wait:

[Drew]

C'mon dude, you post all manner of shit and don't seem to give a fat rats arse about my eyes being violated by your posted crap....:whistle::wait:
LOL, you really are in the mood to crucify today aint ya? Have you been stuck behind a desk with no criminal types to vent on or something?

[boomer]

LOL, you really are in the mood to crucify today aint ya? Have you been stuck behind a desk with no criminal types to vent on or something?

apparently there are no crims down south. Just pissed coppers

[scumdog]

LOL, you really are in the mood to crucify today aint ya? Have you been stuck behind a desk with no criminal types to vent on or something?

Yeah, sorta, - just transferred my work attitude and ethics to KB for a while.

(Ferkin' weather is crap down here, snow on the hills, pissing rain at times and constant howling gale - and I'd planned on taking CBs Sporty for a squirt:angry:)

[scumdog]

apparently there are no crims down south. Just pissed coppers

OK smartarse WHAT am I drinking if ya know all that???:bleh:

[Mom]

Oh did I say something controversial.

Nanna by name nanna by nature.


Nah mate nothing controversial there at all, one thing you might want to reconsider about your darstedly plan though. Smokers, by way of tax on tobacco contribute over M$900 (thats nine hundred million dollars) to the economy each year. Get rid of the smokers, and the government will come looking to take it from your pocket!

[boomer]

OK smartarse WHAT am I drinking if ya know all that???:bleh:

knowing you.. probably that Infamous Grouse.. that is unless its a week away from pay day and your drinking turps :whistle:

[scumdog]

knowing you.. probably that Infamous Grouse.. that is unless its a week away from pay day and your drinking turps :whistle:

Gone to the dark side - bought my Thunderbird off'n a Mexican called Santos and now I drink tequila....

[boomer]

Gone to the dark side - bought my Thunderbird off'n a Mexican called Santos and now I drink tequila....

turps.. tequilla. same same!

ps.. acid's cheaper :banana:

[Mom]

turps.. tequilla. same same!

ps.. acid's cheaper :banana:

But it gives you wicked heartburn. :dodge:

[NinjaNanna]

Nah mate nothing controversial there at all, one thing you might want to reconsider about your darstedly plan though. Smokers, by way of tax on tobacco contribute over M$900 (thats nine hundred million dollars) to the economy each year. Get rid of the smokers, and the government will come looking to take it from your pocket!


Yes I used to think of it that way as well but then somebody pointed out to me the cost to the medical system of the associated long term health problems caused by smoking, apparently asthma, emphasema and lung cancer aren't all that cheap to treat. Neither are the education campaigns and costs associated with collecting that tax.

But you are probably right they may be paying more in tax then what they are costing - but I'd be happy to help make up the difference if it means my daughter won't be exposed to the "cool factor" and pier pressures that go along with smoking.

[scumdog]

Nah mate nothing controversial there at all, one thing you might want to reconsider about your darstedly plan though. Smokers, by way of tax on tobacco contribute over M$900 (thats nine hundred million dollars) to the economy each year. Get rid of the smokers, and the government will come looking to take it from your pocket!

And how much do they suck out of the health system to patch up their nicotine induced medical problems??

BTW I have noticed 95%+ of the losers I deal with smoke - but that does not say all smokers are losers...hmmm...

[boomer]

And how much do they suck out of the health system to patch up their nicotine induced medical problems??

BTW I have noticed 95%+ of the losers I deal with smoke - but that does not say all smokers are losers...hmmm...

and 100% of all wife beaters are drinkers... your point is?

[rwh]

Nah mate nothing controversial there at all, one thing you might want to reconsider about your darstedly plan though. Smokers, by way of tax on tobacco contribute over M$900 (thats nine hundred million dollars) to the economy each year. Get rid of the smokers, and the government will come looking to take it from your pocket!

Since you've got all the stats, can you fill us in on how much of that goes on health care for smokers (both active and passive) - and sweeping up butts?

Oh - and perhaps how much of that tax is actually paid for out of the unemployment benefit ... I'm not taking a jab at the unemployed here, but I suspect there's a correlation.

There's also presumably a bunch of kids who don't get the food/care they should because the money is spent on tobacco, and that's another cost on society.

I can accept that the tax may still be a net gain, but for improved health of society in general I'd still go for it.

Richard

[Mikkel]

Feel that love eh!

Damn, you smokers must have had quite a shitty day. Had I known that I'd provoke so many angsty(as in the contemporary, not the philosophical meaning) reponses I think I'd put it under Jokes and Humour instead.

But why should you be different than any other minority. If one of your brethren gets a lashing, no matter the reason, it's all of the sudden all about YOUR cause and how everyone are stomping your holes.


to be fair he might have re routed the exhaust gas back inside the car through some sort of hose device to save those pedestrains?

Honestly, carbonmonoxide poisoning is vastly overrated. You just fall asleep, turn grey and die unless someone gets you outta there. If I was to commit suicide I think I'd do the world a favour and take a few smoking crims down with me at the very least.

[scumdog]

and 100% of all wife beaters are drinkers... your point is?

There has to a point??:spudwhat:

But now you mention it there seems to be a high percentage of losers who smoke AND drink.

[James Deuce]

Since you've got all the stats, can you fill us in on how much of that goes on health care for smokers (both active and passive) - and sweeping up butts?



None. Well none that you can prove anyway. The consolidated fund is just that. It's the same with ACC levies and petrol tax. None of that goes back into roading or road safety either, well none that you can prove.

[Str8 Jacket]

But now you mention it there seems to be a high percentage of losers who smoke AND drink.

I like to think of myself as a "High Class" loser..... :spanking:

[pzkpfw]

I wonder what the "acceptability" scale of chucking things out of your car window is?

Cig. butt? yes/no?
Coke can? yes/no?
Burger wrapper? yes/no?
Household rubbish? yes/no?
Remains of renovated bathroom? yes/no?
Shredded body of last smoker whose butt hit your visor? yes/no?

[Mikkel]

I wonder what the "acceptability" scale of chucking things out of your car window is?

Cig. butt? yes/no?
Coke can? yes/no?
Burger wrapper? yes/no?
Household rubbish? yes/no?
Remains of renovated bathroom? yes/no?
Shredded body of last smoker whose butt hit your visor? yes/no?

That would be:

No
No
No
No
No
No

We trampers have a saying "Pack it in, pack it out" and it ought to apply other places than the wilderness really. :done:

[Trudes]

Apple core?
Banana skin?
Pee?

[Mole_C]

Apple core?
Banana skin?
Pee?

There all fine as long as u throw them onto the grass and not on the road. Wouldn't wanna slip on a banana and slide through a puddle of piss

[boomer]

That would be:

No
No
No
No
No
No

We trampers have a saying "Pack it in, pack it out" and it ought to apply other places than the wilderness really. :done:

The lesbians are taking over the world... Quick.. hide the lettuce

[Mom]

Since you've got all the stats, can you fill us in on how much of that goes on health care for smokers (both active and passive) - and sweeping up butts?

Oh - and perhaps how much of that tax is actually paid for out of the unemployment benefit ... I'm not taking a jab at the unemployed here, but I suspect there's a correlation.

There's also presumably a bunch of kids who don't get the food/care they should because the money is spent on tobacco, and that's another cost on society.

I can accept that the tax may still be a net gain, but for improved health of society in general I'd still go for it.

Richard


Wow, lucky I am a non-smoker then eh mate! You sure have yout tits in a tangle about this. Hope you are a member of ASH. Me, I prefer to live, and let live myself.

[Mikkel]

The lesbians are taking over the world... Quick.. hide the lettuce

I have actually stated earlier that I am a lesbian trapped in a mans body, so no surprise there I suppose.

I do however not like lettuce that much.

[homer]

Anyway, I took the cage to uni today since it might start pissing down later and my legs are fucked anyhow...
So after having dropped off my better half I find myself sitting at some of the very very slow lights on my way out to Uni. The car in front of me, a red Supra, all of the sudden expels a smoking cigarette butt right out onto the road.

Now, I can get quite ranty about shithead drivers who can't wrap their heads around efficient traffic flow, who doesn't care to look or indicate before turning or changing lanes, etc. I also find it bad manners to smoke in your car unless you keep your windows closed. Usually I don't get pissed off enough to actually do something about it. ...but not today!

Knowing that the lights are usually red for quite a time I got out of my car, a bit shaky since I was pissed off. Walked up, picked up the butt, handed it back to the fat bitch (sorry, but she was actually) saying "Sorry, I think you dropped something." She replied "Oh, thank you." Walked down and got back into the car. Man, I was pissed off. The way some people behave, either they are completely oblivious to the fact that there's a world out there that they have to share with the rest of us or they simply don't give a fuck.

Funny though, that this was what it took to set me off enough to actually go out and address the issue.

So how's your day been so far?

Hey i didnt see you stop for the rubbish thay 4wd threw out the window on the 2 weekends ago going to sumner.
guess you did have a bad day .
Have to catch up at another stage

[Mikkel]

Hey i didnt see you stop for the rubbish thay 4wd threw out the window on the 2 weekends ago going to sumner.
guess you did have a bad day .
Have to catch up at another stage

Yeah, that was a nice day indeed.

Although I was tempted to go after the guy I didn't actually see him throw it, so couldn't be totally sure. Also, stopping in the middle of traffic to pick up trash might not be that healthy ;)
Actually... I think it might be more unhealthy than smoking...

[homer]

Yeah, that was a nice day indeed.

Although I was tempted to go after the guy I didn't actually see him throw it, so couldn't be totally sure. Also, stopping in the middle of traffic to pick up trash might not be that healthy ;)
Actually... I think it might be more unhealthy than smoking...

Very true
will catch up ...
later:niceone:

[Toaster]

Nah mate nothing controversial there at all, one thing you might want to reconsider about your darstedly plan though. Smokers, by way of tax on tobacco contribute over M$900 (thats nine hundred million dollars) to the economy each year. Get rid of the smokers, and the government will come looking to take it from your pocket!

But in turn smoking related illness costs the public health system a fortune. Ironic really.

All this talk of smoking... bump me one will ya Mom! :niceone:

[rwh]

None. Well none that you can prove anyway. The consolidated fund is just that. It's the same with ACC levies and petrol tax. None of that goes back into roading or road safety either, well none that you can prove.

If you want to be pedantic, take out the "of that". Money comes in from tax, money goes out to health care and street sweepers (and roading and road safety).

I would like to know how they compare. I realise that much of it is still hard to judge, given that people get lung cancer without smoking etc etc. But it may be possible to have a rough guess that it's either more or less than $9 million or whatever the figure was.

Anyway - as I said, I'm happy to do without money made out of making people sick, much as I wouldn't vote to legalise heroin in order to tax it, or bring back the death penalty to provide jobs for executioners.

Richard

[rwh]

Wow, lucky I am a non-smoker then eh mate! You sure have yout tits in a tangle about this. Hope you are a member of ASH. Me, I prefer to live, and let live myself.

Or live and let get sick and die, as appropriate.

I'll take that as a 'no' :)

Richard