What not to wear (the road)

[discotex]

So I got nailed today. I'm not starting this thread for sympathy or attention as I know how dreary all the "I binned" threads get and I already know we all hate it when a biker goes down.

I just thought I'd share the experience to help others learn from my misfortune. In this case I was doing almost everything right but there were still lessons to be learned.

If you think there was something I could have done to prevent or avoid the accident please let me know!

Setting the Scene:

- 8:30am Greville Rd
- Drizzling pretty hard but not really rain
- Cars backup up the northern motorway for miles. More than I've seen in a long time

The 'event'

I'm coming up to the roundabout (point A) and there are cars all parked waiting to get on the roundabout so I split up to the front (point B).

I got to the front of the queue and pulled into the right lane as the left lane was backed up all the way from the motorway.

Just as I came to a stop a gap in the cars opened in the roundabout allowing me to move onto the roundabout and into the right lane of the on-ramp as the intersection is designed.

Just as I started getting on the gas (point C) I decided that a differential of 20km/h was plenty so didn't push it. All the cars waiting in the left lane were stationary so I was wary of one pulling out and started to drift over to the centre of the lane just in case.

About halfway between point C and D the guy in the red car gassed it hard out of his lane without indicating. He'd just waited for the big car in front of me.

I regularly practice sharp countersteering and emergency braking (never both at the same time) so my instincts kicked in. My subconcious knew I couldn't brake so I went to veer out of the way. Only problem was I didn't have enough time to complete the manoeuvre. Just started pressing forward on the right clipon when the front wheel hit his front 1/4 and well...

The wheel hitting the car (thus turning it right as he was at a 45 degree angle) basically countersteered the bike into the ground on the left side. Got some serious lean on there! Knee, hip, shoulder, head down and all.:wari:

The aftermath:

Picked myself up off the road, hit the kill switch and sat on my bike to gather my thoughts.

There'd been a bunch of "should you call the cops in an accident" threads lately so when they asked if I wanted an ambulance I said sure. :doctor: and :Police: where there in about 2 minutes which was great. The police took care of getting the other guys details etc.

The lessons:

1. So I'm a very defensive driver/rider who's very aware of what's going on around. I knew someone could pull out. In fact it was one of the thoughts I had seeing the empty lane. I knew my differential speed had to be low. I knew my stopping distance would be long. I knew not to fixate on the target and had picked my escape route.

The police have decided the other driver is 100% at fault but that leaves me a little empty. Sure it was as he changed lanes without indicating and looking properly but I wondered if I could have done something different that would have made him see me.

After a lot of thinking I came to one conclusion.

That entire lane coming off the roundabout is a blindspot. The angle that the cages are on means no matter what they won't see you in their mirrors unless you're massive. I'm 99% sure had I been in a small car I'd still have been hit.

The only thing that would have prevented the crash would have been to either tailgate the car in front or have used the bus lane to get ahead of the cars (like I normally do in rush hour as both lanes are normally blocked).


2. I didn't think I was hurt at first but after about 2 mins I started getting pretty woozy and my back started hurting so was glad they called the ambo. Seriously recommend you do that unless you're 100% sure you're fine if you find yourself in the same situation. Was great having the cops there to establish fault and get his details as I wasn't really up to handling it myself being so dazed.


3. Doesn't matter what your skills are and how alert and how aware of danger you are you can still be caught out.


4. Your gear makes a big difference how bad you get hurt. Even at the ~20km/h I was doing I hit the ground fuckin hard.

- Had I not been wearing a helmet it's almost certain I'd be dead or in a coma right now.
- Had I not been wearing gloves my knuckles would have ground off instead of the leather and plastic. Hell I didn't even know my hands had hit the deck my gloves worked so well.
- Had I not been wearing an armoured jacked I'd have a broken shoulder.
- Had I not had my pants on my left hip would hurt a lot more than it does.


So fingers crossed my insurance write off the bike. I know it's an unusual way to sell your bike for an upgrade but hey... Whatever works eh :whistle:

I'm all good.. Back is a bit sore but otherwise fine. Obligatory pics of the damage attached as penance for this novel :bash:

[jrandom]

Well written up, and very glad to hear you don't have any significant injuries.

After a couple of similar incidents in the rain during rush hour, I now basically assume that if there's stationary or slow traffic, and a gap beside it, someone's going to try to leap into the gap without looking or considering the possibilities.

Only thing you could have done differently was to keep hard over to the right of that lane as soon as you entered it, thereby riding as far away from the cars as possible at every moment.

Heavy-traffic riding is at its most dangerous when gaps appear, and for some reason, wet weather seems to bring out every car driver's inner moron. Never ride close to a car unless there's something else in its way, visibly stopping it from swerving into you.

You've probably learned a good awareness skill from that crash, and for all you know it'll save your life one day.

Anyway, the most important question is, of course, what bike are you going to get next?

:D

[Nasty]

Well written write up ... not nice reading .. but I am glad you are not too bad .. that you took advice and said yes to medical ... and that you know that you definately wear the right gear .. hard way to learn that lession though.

[EnzoYug]

Any crash you walk away from (or stand up after) is a good result from a bad equation. Good work on the gear, insurance, ambulance and cops. Sound to me like a semi-textbook crash.

Hope the insurance lets you 'upgrade'!
However - If you know anyone with a legal / insurance background it might be worth trying to settle privately. When I got hit the guy closed it privately and ended up paying out all my gear as well as my bike. And he left me the wreck to sell. Might be worth a shot?

[discotex]

Well written up, and very glad to hear you don't have any significant injuries.

After a couple of similar incidents in the rain during rush hour, I now basically assume that if there's stationary or slow traffic, and a gap beside it, someone's going to try to leap into the gap without looking or considering the possibilities.

Yeah I live by that mantra too. Has saved my butt a number of times. Basically when I see a gap open I start picking escape routes.


Only thing you could have done differently was to keep hard over to the right of that lane as soon as you entered it, thereby riding as far away from the cars as possible at every moment.

That's why I was drifting over but I didn't go hard right because I like to know my headlight is in their mirror but maybe that's not actually better. Works really well in the "fast" lane on the motorway but maybe not passing stationary cars.



Anyway, the most important question is, of course, what bike are you going to get next?

:D

That is the key question! 3 weeks away from being able to get my full to start test riding but the short list is ZX-6R, gixxer 600 or SV thou. Duke 748 is a possible as well I guess. All depends on how they feel when I ride them.

Going to have to get the cage going until then I think :(

[discotex]

Well written write up ... not nice reading .. but I am glad you are not too bad .. that you took advice and said yes to medical ... and that you know that you definately wear the right gear .. hard way to learn that lession though.

You're telling me. That said I didn't need any convincing. Does make me wonder how I'd have faired in my kevlar jeans in the dry. Might have to check out some airmesh pants for summer.


Any crash you walk away from (or stand up after) is a good result from a bad equation. Good work on the gear, insurance, ambulance and cops. Sound to me like a semi-textbook crash.

Hope the insurance lets you 'upgrade'!
However - If you know anyone with a legal / insurance background it might be worth trying to settle privately. When I got hit the guy closed it privately and ended up paying out all my gear as well as my bike. And he left me the wreck to sell. Might be worth a shot?

To be honest I don't think the dude will have enough cash to pay me out in a lump sum and I wouldn't take part payment. Would really just prefer the cash in the bank from insurance. With any luck it'll be as much as I'd have got for a trade. Good idea though :)

[Nasty]

You're telling me. That said I didn't need any convincing. Does make me wonder how I'd have faired in my kevlar jeans in the dry. Might have to check out some airmesh pants for summer.


a few of us are looking at the armour for the inside of the kevlar jeans .. it uses velcro to them.

[discotex]

a few of us are looking at the armour for the inside of the kevlar jeans .. it uses velcro to them.

Wonder if it's worth cutting up some temperfoam for the hips as well. Then you've basically got the same level of protection without the heat.

[tri boy]

Only things I can think of, are:
Having a good noisy exhaust to let the wankers know someone is close by.
Possibly a bright headlight might have caught the drivers attention in his rear view mirror as you moved forward.
Glad your quite uninjured.:mellow:

[rainman]

Thanks for the post, and glad you´re not badly hurt. That´s close to my normal run in to work, and your post provided me with a bit of food for thought.

[discotex]

Only things I can think of, are:
Having a good noisy exhaust to let the wankers know someone is close by.
Possibly a bright headlight might have caught the drivers attention in his rear view mirror as you moved forward.
Glad your quite uninjured.:mellow:

ZXR250 has two hardwired headlights. They're pretty damn bright too. Guess I could have had high beam on considering the rain.

My new bike will have an aftermarket can for sure. Not that I'd want to rely on it but at low speed like this was he might have heard me. I guess the point is it all adds up right. Covering the bases etc.


Thanks for the post, and glad you´re not badly hurt. That´s close to my normal run in to work, and your post provided me with a bit of food for thought.

Me too. Appreciate all your best wishes. The whole point of detailing the sorry incident was to help someone else out so I'm glad you found it useful.

[paturoa]

I have my headlights on high beam all the time during the day. They are fecking bright too so that helps in some situations.

[pritch]

Good write-up.

If I read it right, your position relative to the car was in what Nick Ienatch describes in his book "Sport Riding Techniques" as the death spot.

When splitting lanes, filtering, or whatever tf, you are in the death spot of a whole succession of cars most of the drivers of which are thinking about anything else except driving. If they are thinking at all...

It might be cool and it is quicker, but it's also bloody dangerous.

Hope you and your bike get well soon :yes:

[discotex]

Good write-up.

If I read it right, your position relative to the car was in what Nick Ienatch describes in his book "Sport Riding Techniques" as the death spot.

When splitting lanes, filtering, or whatever tf, you are in the death spot of a whole succession of cars most of the drivers of which are thinking about anything else except driving. If they are thinking at all...

It might be cool and it is quicker, but it's also bloody dangerous.

Hope you and your bike get well soon :yes:

Thanks Pritch. I'll be fine in a day or so I'd say. Bikes a mess but you get that with sprotsbikes eh... Will be pissed if they repair the bike as I'll be wanting to sell it in 3 weeks anyway. A write off would suit me much better at this point.

Haven't read that book but I've always known passing a big gap to be a super dodgy place to be. I'm assuming that's what he defines as the death spot?

If I'm in that situation splitting I usually slow down or speed up to pick up a car to ride alongside. If it's just one gap I make sure I'm not in the blindspot or even better make sure I'm lined up with a gap on both sides.

The irony about today is that normally both lanes are blocked so I ride up the bus lane and merge where it meets the motorway.

Should have just done what I normally do and I'd have avoided the whole situation. Silly me decided not to be the cheeky biker today.

[obstacle]

told you you should have got the white helmet, there'd be no missing you then. Then again, i guess this time he didn't miss you either.

on a serious note, it sucks to hear from a friend in hospital no matter what the injuries are. i was happy to see you walking out this time, not being the guy delivering you. Here's hoping it's the last time eh?

[_intense_]

:: respek knuckles ::

[swbarnett]

It might be cool and it is quicker, but it's also bloody dangerous.
Certainly no more dangerous than the chance getting rear-ended in stop-start traffic. Done properly lane-splitting is as safe as any road riding.

Besides, when this accident happened discotex wasn't splitting.

I've had the exact same thing happen on several occasions and every time the puny horn on my GN was enough to alert the driver and they went back into their lane.

[0arbreaka]

Hey mate, it sucks dosent it? Glad to hear youre relatively ok. By the sound of it heres probably very little you could have done to prevent it. Ive had the same thing happen to me before, except a in my case a bus clipped me. If theres one thing that I can recomend is to use your high beem during the day. When you get a chance put your bike on low beem and go and stand 20 metres away and look at it, then do the same with high beem you'll see why I recomend this, there is significant difference in the visibility between the two settings.

[HungusMaximist]

Disco, do you go to Auckland Uni by any chance?

Anway good luck with finding a new bike and the paperworks!

Btw I have also recently started riding on high beam during the day and at times during the night when it's appropriate. Yea, it ticks them cars off sometimes and they sort of flash their high beam to tell you to switch it off but seeing I am more visible, I could care less.

Anyway, the lesson here is also don't rely too heavily on visibility and always be on the the defensive!

[aer0]

bummer to see dude, hope your feeling ok today.

looks like we both had a bad day eh.

heal up fast :)

[Griff]

Good Post. Hope the legal outcome is the same. :niceone:

[vifferman]

Sorry to hear of your bin. (Great write-up, BTW!)


The police have decided the other driver is 100% at fault but that leaves me a little empty. Sure it was as he changed lanes without indicating and looking properly but I wondered if I could have done something different that would have made him see me.
You've got a good attitude. :niceone:
I know Eggs Zachary where you're coming from. I had three significant bins that were the other party's fault, but still felt bad about each one, because there was something I could've done to have prevented each one (even if it was only being there 30 seconds earlier/later!)
The fact you could basically walk away from this one, AND you've thought deeply about it and learned from it, rather than just saying, "Damned stupid car driver!" is really excellent.

[Patch]

Glad you're ok fulla.

Upgrade your gear to leather - buy the best you can afford, doesn't matter whether you race or not, there is no substitute for it. I would upgrade all my gear (quality helmet, gloves and boots) before I upgrade my bike. The road is not any softer whether you ride a scooter or anything else.

Upgrade the bikes shitty little horn - airhorns or the twin electric horns work great. takes some time fitting etc, but easier to fit those than wait for scars to heal.

Loud pipes, saves lives - get the noisiest, growliest pipes you can legally, financially afford.

Upgrade your stock headlight lamp - go HID or higher wattage with relays.


All this just gives you slightly better odds at being seen and heard. When the envitable happens, at least you are protected with the good stuff, so you may not get hurt too bad.

I'd go with the SV650 especially if you commute alot - wouldn't bother with a thou, given you haven't been riding that long. We don't want your name in the paper - ride safe.

[DMNTD]

The fact you could basically walk away from this one, AND you've thought deeply about it and learned from it, rather than just saying, "Damned stupid car driver!" is really excellent.

100% agree with you there,all too often it appears to be "that bloody cagers fault:sleep::rolleyes:

[sprag]

Great write up :)

[discotex]

The fact you could basically walk away from this one, AND you've thought deeply about it and learned from it, rather than just saying, "Damned stupid car driver!" is really excellent.

There only way I'd got to 14 years on the road without an accident (up until yesterday) was through evaluating the near-misses in the same way.

I love watching crash investigation programmes on Discovery and stuff so it's only natural I try to investigate my own.


Disco, do you go to Auckland Uni by any chance?

Anway good luck with finding a new bike and the paperworks!

Btw I have also recently started riding on high beam during the day and at times during the night when it's appropriate. Yea, it ticks them cars off sometimes and they sort of flash their high beam to tell you to switch it off but seeing I am more visible, I could could less.

Anyway, the lesson here is also don't rely too heavily on visibility and always be on the the defensive!

Nah I don't go to uni. Work in the city though.

I've been trialling high beam when splitting the last month or so and it does seem to help. I don't like having it on when their is oncomming traffic though as I'd rather not blind the drivers that are heading towards me.


Hey mate, it sucks dosent it? Glad to hear youre relatively ok. By the sound of it heres probably very little you could have done to prevent it. Ive had the same thing happen to me before, except a in my case a bus clipped me. If theres one thing that I can recomend is to use your high beem during the day. When you get a chance put your bike on low beem and go and stand 20 metres away and look at it, then do the same with high beem you'll see why I recomend this, there is significant difference in the visibility between the two settings.

Will give that a shot. Might do it in the cage too to get a feel for how much difference it makes in the mirrors.

I think in this case I still would have been screwed anyway as the angles were all wrong. Basically I'd have appeared out of nowhere because of the left hand curve in the road and all the stopped cars.

[discotex]

on a serious note, it sucks to hear from a friend in hospital no matter what the injuries are. i was happy to see you walking out this time, not being the guy delivering you. Here's hoping it's the last time eh?

Yeah hopefully I can have a break from hospitals for a while.

Interesting that I hit the road way harder than I did at Woodhill yet have no major damage. The gear clearly absorbed a lot of impact.

[discotex]

Glad you're ok fulla.

Upgrade your gear to leather - buy the best you can afford, doesn't matter whether you race or not, there is no substitute for it. I would upgrade all my gear (quality helmet, gloves and boots) before I upgrade my bike. The road is not any softer whether you ride a scooter or anything else.

For sure mate. I see people out on scooters in no gear and cringe. Was planning to upgrade to leather this summer to get out and do some trackdays.


Upgrade the bikes shitty little horn - airhorns or the twin electric horns work great. takes some time fitting etc, but easier to fit those than wait for scars to heal.

Hell yeah. The factory horns are pointless eh! Waiting for obstacle to pick up his steibel so I can hear how loud they are.


Loud pipes, saves lives - get the noisiest, growliest pipes you can legally, financially afford.

I just love the sound of a good set of pipes so will be doing that on the new bike for sure.


Upgrade your stock headlight lamp - go HID or higher wattage with relays.

Hadn't thought of that one. Will add it to the shopping list for the new bike.



All this just gives you slightly better odds at being seen and heard. When the envitable happens, at least you are protected with the good stuff, so you may not get hurt too bad.

I'd go with the SV650 especially if you commute alot - wouldn't bother with a thou, given you haven't been riding that long. We don't want your name in the paper - ride safe.

It's all about layering eh. Thinking about yesterday some more I can see how things could have been way worse had I not already stacked some of the odds in my favour.

I could easily have been doing 40+ when I hit had not limited my differential speed. I could have had way worse injuries had I been wearing waterproof overtrou and a raincoat instead of armoured gear. My knuckles would have been ground off judging by my gloves yet I never even knew my hands hit the deck. No idea if my boots helped but I'm sure wearing sneakers would have left my feet or ankles sore in some way.

Will give the SV650 a go when I get to test riding. I'm a daily commuter with weekend rides and a lust for getting out to trackdays. Planning to do some longer rides (out to east cape for example) in the next year or two as well.

I'd been considering the SV1000S as on paper it seems pretty much the same power as a 600 IL4. Apparently they have the same 1/4 mile and top gear 60-80mph roll-ons. It's the only thou I even considered and it was only because it seemed pretty mellow (compared to a 1000cc IL4) on paper.

I really don't want to outgrow my next bike within two years which is how long I plan to keep it.

Can't wait to get out test riding and feel the differences for myself!

[avgas]

You fail....na just kidding.
Basically i have had similar things happen to me in the past. You have to change from defensive riding to, lookout everything thing is out to kill you riding :crazy:
Once adopting that - nothing scares you anymore and you anticipate everything.

[discotex]

You fail....na just kidding.
Basically i have had similar things happen to me in the past. You have to change from defensive riding to, lookout everything thing is out to kill you riding :crazy:
Once adopting that - nothing scares you anymore and you anticipate everything.

Doesn't assuming everyone is trying to kill you = defensive riding though? The only notch higher I can get on that is getting an eye controlled chaingun mounted on my bike (that'd be handy sometimes!).

I was fully expecting someone to pull out along that bit of empty road and was ready to move and had limited my speed. What totally surprises me was that even expecting it and having already considered escape routes I still didn't have enough time to react and swerve out of the way.

[pritch]

Haven't read that book but I've always known passing a big gap to be a super dodgy place to be. I'm assuming that's what he defines as the death spot?

There is a nice big diagram in the book but alas I'm at work.

The death spot is forward of the blind spot, basically alongside the car. Exactly where if he changes lanes or whatever, he will take you out.
He will of course then tell the world he never saw you...

[HungusMaximist]

Will give the SV650 a go when I get to test riding. I'm a daily commuter with weekend rides and a lust for getting out to trackdays. Planning to do some longer rides (out to east cape for example) in the next year or two as well.

I'd been considering the SV1000S as on paper it seems pretty much the same power as a 600 IL4. Apparently they have the same 1/4 mile and top gear 60-80mph roll-ons. It's the only thou I even considered and it was only because it seemed pretty mellow (compared to a 1000cc IL4) on paper.

I really don't want to outgrow my next bike within two years which is how long I plan to keep it.

Can't wait to get out test riding and feel the differences for myself!

Ha, I am actually looking in getting an SV650 myself as I commute on my bike every single day. I've been looking around and I'd love to have a fast ass sports bike but I'll probably end up regretting it after awhile.....

As for the SV1000 I wouldn't exactly bother as there isn't a huge difference for the money *honestly*. You pay for more petrol and it's only a few more horsepowers, 80 hps on the SV650 is plenty for commuting and touring.

It's also usually your big ass ego doing the talking in how you want a 1000cc just for kicks. Remember it's the corners that matter, not the straights. I've seen some wicked peeps on their 250's beating fast ass sports riders around the corners because they are just a better rider, period. :eek5:

Take a few courses and a few track days and I will guarantee you will be kick ass on any bike. Cheers. :yes:

[obstacle]

Waiting for obstacle to pick up his steibel so I can hear how loud they are.



oh yeah! now where did i put warlock's details?

[discotex]

It's also usually your big ass ego doing the talking in how you want a 1000cc just for kicks. Remember it's the corners that matter, not the straights. I've seen some wicked peeps on their 250's beating fast ass sports riders around the corners because they are just a better rider, period. :eek5:

Take a few courses and a few track days and I will guarantee you will be kick ass on any bike. Cheers. :yes:


That's exactly what I'm planning to do :yes: Can't wait to get out on the track once I get my leathers.

I hear what you're saying about the SV thou but I'm not so sure it's just my ego talking me into a 1000cc bike. I'm basically considering a 600 IL4 or a bigger twin as roughly equal. No way in hell would I look at a 1000cc IL4! Can't see the need for it to be honest.

I will check out the SV650S though to see how it handles and see if it's got enough balls to keep me interested in the long term.

[Hawkeye]

100% agree with you there,all too often it appears to be "that bloody cagers fault:sleep::rolleyes:




However, in this case the :Police: have already decided it was the 'bloody cagers fault'.

Good to hear that your OK Discotex.

The one thing I have learnt about splitting. The 'didn't see me' is not always true. I have done it a number of times when in the cage. Seen a gap, looked in the mirror, other lane is moving almost the same speed (maybe 5k - 10k difference). Was about to move when I caught sight of a bike splitting. As a biker, I know that the bike in the mirror is moving possibly 20k faster than the cages and compensate (ie do not move). None bikers do not compute that. They may see the bike but do not recognise the speed differential. They are still working on the 5k - 10k difference so presume they have the time.

Whenever a gap appears in the traffic I 'expect', 100% of the time, that whichever cage is alongside the gap, they are going to move into it. It's the only way to survive.

[discotex]

However, in this case the :Police: have already decided it was the 'bloody cagers fault'.

Good to hear that your OK Discotex.

Thanks Hawkeye. Still a bit stiff and sore but the good news is my insurer is writing the bike off. The last thing I wanted was them trying to repair it (taking months) when I was planning to sell it in 2 weeks anyway.

Just hope I don't have to fight to get paid out a decent amount.



Whenever a gap appears in the traffic I 'expect', 100% of the time, that whichever cage is alongside the gap, they are going to move into it. It's the only way to survive.

Totally agree with you there. I'm always watching to see which lane is moving quicker as well. If the gap is in the faster lane you know to be on guard. You also ususally get some warning from watching the cars jump lanes further up ahead. Being a nation of sheep once one person starts...

The policeman said the guy in this case said he had decided he wasn't going to get on the motorway and went to go around the roundabout instead.

That would mean I've put the red car one too far forward in my diagram. It would certainly explain why he crossed the whole lane so fast instead of the usual 'slip out' you get when splitting.

He'd have had to turn 90 degrees at least to make it back around the roundabout rather than the normal 15-20 degress to slide into the lane next to him.

Makes me feel better as no-one would expect what amounts to a u-turn on a motorway on-ramp!! Also explains why I got no time to react when I was already expecting someone to pull out.

[scumdog]

An excellent description of what happend, clear and welll aid out AND most important: easily read by the more 'senior' site members!:niceone:

A shame about you 'off' but glad t see you were not seriously hurt.

Riding a motorbike in traffic really homes your survival skills eh? - just never, ever rely on motorists NOT to do somehting stupid - if there's an opportunity they will take it, safe/legal or not.

[discotex]

An excellent description of what happend, clear and welll aid out AND most important: easily read by the more 'senior' site members!:niceone:

A shame about you 'off' but glad t see you were not seriously hurt.

Riding a motorbike in traffic really homes your survival skills eh? - just never, ever rely on motorists NOT to do somehting stupid - if there's an opportunity they will take it, safe/legal or not.

Cheers SD. Hopefully a few people got something out of it. Took long enough to draw that bloody diagram in mspaint haha!

[Xaria]

Glad you are (reasonably) OK.
Great write up

[Choco]

Thanks for sharing your experience, it does help others avoid your mistake.
Hope you can get back on a bike soon.
Mike

[discotex]

Thanks for sharing your experience, it does help others avoid your mistake.
Hope you can get back on a bike soon.
Mike

Got my new bike the other week. Check out my profile pic ;)

[Choco]

Got my new bike the other week. Check out my profile pic ;)

:love:
That is a pretty bike.

[skidMark]

lol.... i just bought this bike

[skidMark]

Fixed fairing............

Just need to get the stickers redone...

[Maha]

lol.... i just bought this bike


Fixed fairing............

Just need to get the stickers redone...

I see what you mean, not the one in discotex's profile, but the one in the opening post.

[skidMark]

I see what you mean, not the one in discotex's profile, but the one in the opening post.


I do say my good sir, jolly good observation.

sorry its not blue, i know you like blue...:niceone:

[Maha]

I do say my good sir, jolly good observation.

sorry its not blue, i know you like blue...:niceone:

Blacks good, get rid of the purple bits, whats with the Kawasaki Purple fetish on older bikes?....

[boman]

Very glad to read you are OK. Also a very well written report, I am sure we can all learn something from incidents like this. I went for the Sv1000 because I felt that it was a good step in regards to a V Twin over the power of an IL4. Have not regretted the choice yet. Next step will probably be a IL4 tho.

Hope you don't feel the bruises too much. Take care out there, remember they are out to get us all.

:rolleyes:

[CookMySock]

woah, thats not so good. Yeah if cars CAN move out, they WILL. Same applies to passing - its often much safer to pass when the cars CANT pass because of oncoming traffic. Doesn't sound right, but it is.

Fark, he must have pulled out quick to total you like that. Nasty!

Steve

[EJK]

People people! Note that it's dated back to 2007!

[discotex]

People people! Note that it's dated back to 2007!

It's nice to know people still care tho :niceone:

I've made a note to trade-in next time though. Was a painful way to cash in the bike (although I did get more from insurance and I paid - go market value).

Always wondered where it'd turn up after it got written off. She's a beast so skidMark will enjoy her.

[discotex]

Fark, he must have pulled out quick to total you like that. Nasty!


Yeah it was the angle of the wheel and the car. When it hit the car it turned the wheel and countersteered if you know what I mean. So even though it was low speed I got powerslammed into the ground.

All in the past though :)

Still get the odd niggle in my back from time to time (almost 2 years later) so even a small off can last.

[vifferman]

Still get the odd niggle in my back from time to time (almost 2 years later) so even a small off can last.
True dat.
I wrote off my VFR750 about 6 years ago, and even though I was sent home from hospital with apparently no broken bits (although only my knee was x-rayed), the pain in my heel's still there, and my lower leg swells up on long plane flights, as the circulation was muntered from having it get a bit squashed between the car and bike. OTOH, my right knee which was very swollen and had 9 stitches in it when I totalled my bike when I was 17 has been perfectly fine, despite the on-duty doctor telling me I'd have cartilage problems one day...
I guess you bounce better when you're young.:blank:

[EJK]

It's nice to know people still care tho :niceone:

I've made a note to trade-in next time though. Was a painful way to cash in the bike (although I did get more from insurance and I paid - go market value).

Always wondered where it'd turn up after it got written off. She's a beast so skidMark will enjoy her.

Haha yea when this thread poped up on "New Posts", I was reading this through and thought "Oh smack Disco had an off on his CBR! Ah what? Same Grevill rd? Oh hold on wait...." :msn-wink:

[The Pastor]

Oh great skiddys on another zxr250

[skidMark]

Oh great skiddys on another zxr250


Auw bey, ill gizz u a race vs yur cbr rrr rr

[The Pastor]

Im always keen, just gotta get that clutch installed haha

[skidMark]

Im always keen, just gotta get that clutch installed haha


Too many neutral burnouts...

and note discotex doesnt say the zxr has gone to a good home lol

i think he feels sorry for it.

[discotex]

Too many neutral burnouts...

and note discotex doesnt say the zxr has gone to a good home lol

i think he feels sorry for it.

:lol:

Stoked ya doing something with it Mark. Just don't go scraping alternator covers :devil2: