Throwing the question open to the unwashed masses - what do I buy?

[jrandom]

Right, not to put too fine a point on it, gixxers hurt my legs after 3 hours or so. Too many years of squatting and deadlifting and then cycling. I am very inflexible.

It's gotten to the point where I can't be arsed doing day trips up and down the countryside, even when I have very good reason to do them, because I know I'll be in a foul mood afterwards.

I still end up going, but, you know. The joy just isn't there.

A quick spin on Finn's Brutale the other day confirmed my suspicions about what sort of bike would make me happy.

I can't afford a Brutale, so what should I buy?

Hypothetical for the moment. Let's say the budget's about $10K. Give me some ideas. I just want something that goes fast, handles well and doesn't hurt. Not a tubby tourer, though.

Speed Triple?

Bandit?

Fazer?

(gulp)... Hornet?

[crashe]

If your legs are hurting on a sportsbike, then buy a cruiser.:niceone: :msn-wink: :bleh: :woohoo:

That way you can stretch your legs out the whole time on the ride...

Think of the comfort.......

[jrandom]

buy a cruiser

No.

:sunny:

[007XX]

But...but...it's so very entertaining following you when you're wriggling around! :bleh: :dodge:

Ok, more seriously...I reckon the Speed Triple would suit you to a T. 007XY had one when we met, and he still regrets selling it. Besides, the 1050 can become in no time and with a little bling a really gorgeous Street Fighter taht's really horny to look at...

take one for a spin if you haven't already! :niceone:

[deanohit]

How about a Kwaka Z1000?
They look really good and apparently go really nicely.

[jrandom]

How about a Kwaka Z1000?

Tried it, didn't like the buzzy engine or the way it handled.

[Joni]

Speed Triple? :clap:

:D

Nothing more to say really!

[Mikkel]

Right, not to put too fine a point on it, gixxers hurt my legs after 3 hours or so. Too many years of squatting and deadlifting and then cycling. I am very inflexible.

It's gotten to the point where I can't be arsed doing day trips up and down the countryside, even when I have very good reason to do them, because I know I'll be in a foul mood afterwards.

I still end up going, but, you know. The joy just isn't there.

A quick spin on Finn's Brutale the other day confirmed my suspicions about what sort of bike would make me happy.

I can't afford a Brutale, so what should I buy?

Hypothetical for the moment. Let's say the budget's about $10K. Give me some ideas. I just want something that goes fast, handles well and doesn't hurt. Not a tubby tourer, though.

Speed Triple?

Bandit?

Fazer?

(gulp)... Hornet?

The one you can afford that you like best obviously. I see a good excuse to go out and visit every bike shop in Auckland and take there precious demonstrators out for a spin. Should be fun! :niceone:

[jrandom]

Should be fun! :niceone:

Yup.

Perhaps I should have entitled this thread "Talk me out of buying a Speed Triple if you can, motherfuckers".

;)

[ArcherWC]

What about an Aprillia Touno or Falco ????

[James Deuce]

How many time do I have to say it?

We're idiots. Don't ask us.

By my Zed with Ohlins and the Micron and the DNA and the Traxxion Dynamics fork springs and the pack rack (with grab bar).

[tide]

Yup.

Perhaps I should have entitled this thread "Talk me out of buying a Speed Triple if you can, motherfuckers".

;)

why... buy a speed triple you know you want to... :laugh:

[jrandom]

What about an Aprillia Touno or Falco ????

Can I get one-a them for $10K?

:confused:

[jrandom]

By my Zed with Ohlins and the Micron and the DNA and the Traxxion Dynamics fork springs and the pack rack (with grab bar).

Oh yeah, I should have mentioned.

No Zeds.

:)

[Edit: As stated above, I didn't like riding the Z1000, and the 750... well... it's just, you know? Like a really nice chick who is just a bit too unfortunately ugly to date.]

[ArcherWC]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports/auction-125452368.htm?key=471105

[MSTRS]

Hark! Is that the sound of pipe and slippers approaching???

[ArcherWC]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports/auction-124780791.htm?key=476484

[jrandom]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports/auction-125452368.htm?key=471105

Hmm.

Perhaps I should give Kerry a call and take it for a ride.

It doesn't instinctively appeal, though. I've never really been the Aprilia sort. They're like BMWs; never met one that really pushed my buttons.

[jafar]

CB 1300f Naked or a CB 1300s with a half fairing, 2nd hand they are going for around $10,000
GSX 1400
XJ 1300
V 11 brevia
BMW 1150
spoilt for choice really :whistle:

[kiwifruit]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Tourers/auction-124511598.htm

[jrandom]

CB 1300f Naked or a CB 1300s with a half fairing, 2nd hand they are going for around $10,000
GSX 1400
XJ 1300

Oooh, yes, now we're talking.

Hmmm!

I shall ride and report.

[Joni]

Good thinking Jafar.....

A good, but maybe more conservative choice would be an XJR1300..... they are stunning bikes!

[jrandom]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Tourers/auction-124511598.htm

<_<

:sick:

It's a good thing you have a boyfriend with good taste in motorcycles.

Now get back to building that ramp into the lounge for your new MV.

[kiwifruit]

<_<

:sick:


test ride one.
they are a great bike!!

[yungatart]

hXc's Mighty Spada will be available soonish......
Go on, you know you want to...

[jrandom]

test ride one.

Yes dear.

:girlfight:

[jafar]

Oooh, yes, now we're talking.

Hmmm!

I shall ride and report.

Too late I've already got a cb13 :lol:
I have been round both islands on it & no problems @ all.
Good handling, comfortable all day on your own or with a passenger & enough zip to put a smile on your dial. :whistle:

[Joni]

You can come for an adventure to Chch....

http://motorcycletrader.co.nz/UsedItemDetails.aspx?N=4294967270+4294966971+0&item=7578&sid=116203B236D9

In anniversary colours too! :yes:

Go the Speed triple!

[jrandom]

Too late I've already got a cb13 :lol:

I do greatly desire the new CB1100F.

Forgot about the 13.

:eek:

[jafar]

Good thinking Jafar.....

A good, but maybe more conservative choice would be an XJR1300..... they are stunning bikes!

XJR1300 is a nice bike, :niceone:

Me thinks Mr Jrandom is looking for a muscle bike.:msn-wink:

[Goblin]

I can't afford a Brutale, so what should I buy?
Funny you should ask....I have this really cool little CBR 600, it goes really well, has done for years, it's really comfy on long rides and in all the tens of thousands of Ks I've done on it, I've always wanted to do more! I never want to get off the thing. It's a wee gem of a bike! It's yours for 9.5k. PM me for a test ride. ;)

[SPman]

XJR1300 - the large comfy chair.
Once the suspenders are done, it should handle less like one, as well! :innocent:

[0arbreaka]

How about something like a superduke??

[BMW]

susgest riding them all. never turn a bike down as it does not look right. I did. but now own the bike I thought was to slow!

[James Deuce]

Oh yeah, I should have mentioned.

No Zeds.

:)

[Edit: As stated above, I didn't like riding the Z1000, and the 750... well... it's just, you know? Like a really nice chick who is just a bit too unfortunately ugly to date.]

You'd have $1500 change.

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?bikead=yes&p=1284814

[merv]

Did you read Kendog's review on the KTM http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=55395

That'd be something different, or what about the Ducati Hypermotard?

Look I know they aren't Hondas so they aren't the best but hey worth a look if you don't feel like a Hornet or a CB1300.

Bugger the money just mortgage the house.

[James Deuce]

It certainly would be different with a $10000 budget.

Maybe a pair of forks and a couple of wheels and a seat.

[boomer]

Get a virago.

[Skunk]

Oooh, yes, now we're talking.

Hmmm!

I shall ride and report.

Add to that list the ZRX1200 then. Very good retro naked for touring. Massive torque too.

You got to try them all before you exclude any.

[Grahameeboy]

Get a virago.

Does it help your squatting issues??

[Coyote]

A good, but maybe more conservative choice would be an XJR1300..... they are stunning bikes!
----------------
http://motorcycletrader.co.nz/UsedItemDetails.aspx?N=4294967270+4294966971+0&item=7578&sid=116203B236D9

In anniversary colours too! :yes:
Was going to mention that one. Looks stunning, even got me wanting one over a some sportsbikes.


A Motard might be an idea. If you have a chance to test ride one, go for it. I rode a WR450 which was fun, although with the stock pipe and knobbies it felt like a tractor

[puddy]

With that Suzuki Summerfest thing going on, you could get a new GSX750 Katana for about $10000. Then, if you ask nicely, they'll throw in a Tech/Ram mount for holding a book! Trust me, going from the GSXR to the Katana, you'll need the book! What does it profit a man to gain all that comfort, but to lose his SOUL?

[jafar]

You can come for an adventure to Chch....

http://motorcycletrader.co.nz/UsedItemDetails.aspx?N=4294967270+4294966971+0&item=7578&sid=116203B236D9

In anniversary colours too! :yes:

Go the Speed triple!

$11,500 for a 4 year old bike with 34,000k on the clock ??? :spanking:

Suzuki are listing the GSX 1400 @ $13,995 NEW
Honda are listing the CB 1300 @ $13,495 NEW
Kawasaki Z1000 @ $15,995 NEW

Not saying they have overpriced that bike, but for an extra $2,000 (+) for a new one I know which one will be left sitting on the showroom floor :devil2:

[sels1]

I've had a wash. And I'm a little biased.

Buy a Triumph!

[Blue Thunder]

If your legs are hurting on a sportsbike, then buy a cruiser.:niceone: :msn-wink: :bleh: :woohoo:

That way you can stretch your legs out the whole time on the ride...

Think of the comfort.......

Totally agree the leg room on a cruiser beats the hunchback of Notre Damme anyday:Pokey:

[TLMAN]

What about an SVthou.:2thumbsup

[Pancakes]

Buell Lightnig? Comfy, flicky.

[scumdog]

I can't afford a Brutale, so what should I buy?

Hypothetical for the moment. Let's say the budget's about $10K. Give me some ideas. I just want something that goes fast, handles well and doesn't hurt. Not a tubby tourer, though.(gulp)... Hornet?

For you?

Nothing but the best.

A NZeta will do you nicely.....

[NighthawkNZ]

Hypothetical for the moment. Let's say the budget's about $10K. Give me some ideas. I just want something that goes fast, handles well and doesn't hurt. Not a tubby tourer, though.


I don't know... tell me what I should buy next... then go out and buy yourself as thats obviously what you want... ??? Have you test rode any of the bikes you suggested yourself.

[Devil]

$8.5k will get you my '05 Triumph Speed Four. It's just come up on two years old and purring like a kitten

K&N Filter
Power Commander
Jardine Race pipe (with quietener if you're a nancy)
Oberon pegs
Radiator Cowling
Belly Pan
Hugger
Seat cowl
EBC Pro-lite Front rotors
HH Sintered pads
Braided lines standard.
Heated grips
Ventura Rack
+2 teeth rear sprocket (speedo is off front wheel, so no calibration issues)

Comfy seat for touring, handles awesomely and brings out the inner hooligan.
Very light too

[James Deuce]

Now there's a bloody nice bike for good money - jrandom you listening? Sweet handling bike with a non-crippling ride position and lots of extras and it isn't Japanese.

[Devil]

Oh and did I mention the full service history...

[Joni]

Now there's a bloody nice bike for good money - jrandom you listening? Sweet handling bike with a non-crippling ride position and lots of extras and it isn't Japanese.Indeed.... and one lady owner :lol:

[Devil]

Indeed.... and one lady owner :lol:

I'm going to write that one down and start counting down the days till I can pay it back in person. Hah.

*checks calendar*

47 days and counting. :Pokey:

(you must spread some around rah rah rah etc)

[Unit]

Yes their kinda ugly, but, you've got speed and comfort (oh boy have you got speed, and yes they are surposed to do over 150k in first out of the box). I wound mine out to 11,500 rev (gently) in 2nd the other day and was definately doing warp speed (in controlled conditions of course). Yet I can happily pootle along in 6th gear at 100km all day. Had the Aprilia (sore shoulders and slightly cramped legs but not too bad), TL1000, SV1000. Never thought I would own one of these, absolutely love it. Beautifully balanced bike like you wouldnt believe, great fuel distance (I can get from Tauranga to Warkworth without stopping). Take out the secondary butterflies, drop on tooth off the front sprocket (cause dont need to go over 300k + at the top end anyways but it still will, Im told), power commander to remap and then dyno to set for more lineal power (oh yea yeha) and you have a mean as bike, believe me ;):whistle:

[Cajun]

Well first you have to decide

Do you wanna go naked?
Or keep with fairing?

That cut your choices down a touch,

Next after that you have to decided, do you want vtwin/4 cylinder.

That will go in some type of fashion cut down your choices.

There are tons of great bikes in any of those ranges you choose, from zzr1200s, blackbirds, to xjrs, x11s, buells, etc

Need to narrow down your search opinion a bit, or just go be a bike slut and test ride as much as you can. to see what suits you.

But like anything first and formost the bike has to turn you on, other wise ya not gonna want to ride it as much.

[NZsarge]

Fazer and jig the suspension.:done::beer:

[NZsarge]

Yes their kinda ugly, but, you've got speed and comfort (oh boy have you got speed, and yes they are surposed to do over 150k in first out of the box). I wound mine out to 11,500 rev (gently) in 2nd the other day and was definately doing warp speed (in controlled conditions of course). Yet I can happily pootle along in 6th gear at 100km all day. Had the Aprilia (sore shoulders and slightly cramped legs but not too bad), TL1000, SV1000. Never thought I would own one of these, absolutely love it. Beautifully balanced bike like you wouldnt believe, great fuel distance (I can get from Tauranga to Warkworth without stopping). Take out the secondary butterflies, drop on tooth off the front sprocket (cause dont need to go over 300k + at the top end anyways but it still will, Im told), power commander to remap and then dyno to set for more lineal power (oh yea yeha) and you have a mean as bike, believe me ;):whistle:

Was gonna say ZX14 myself but you won't get one round the 10k mark which sounds like the budget.

[Pancakes]

$8.5k will get you my '05 Triumph Speed Four. It's just come up on two years old and purring like a kitten

K&N Filter
Power Commander
Jardine Race pipe (with quietener if you're a nancy)
Oberon pegs
Radiator Cowling
Belly Pan
Hugger
Seat cowl
EBC Pro-lite Front rotors
HH Sintered pads
Braided lines standard.
Heated grips
Ventura Rack
+2 teeth rear sprocket (speedo is off front wheel, so no calibration issues)

Comfy seat for touring, handles awesomely and brings out the inner hooligan.
Very light too

and super sexy in black! It's a tidy bike J,

[Quasievil]

Jrandom I was in a similiar predicament to you actually and ended up now with a ZX10 , great track bike and sports thrill and a adventure bike KLR650 which was $9000 new.
Now I know that might be against the grain but think of this, you can relax and be super comfy at 120 - 130 kmh all day AND you can go for rides to places you didnt know exsisted, so it will add a whole new adventure dimension to your riding.
So keep the GSXR 1000 and have a KLR as well (or similair)

Food for thought maybe ??

It is pefect for me

[jrandom]

Now I know that might be against the grain but think of this, you can relax and be super comfy at 120 - 130 kmh all day AND you can go for rides to places you didnt know exsisted, so it will add a whole new adventure dimension to your riding...

I have, actually, considered this. A 650 with 50/50 type tyres, and I'd probably keep a gixxer and just leave it in its race fairings.

And, hmm, SRAD 750 with full Ohlins and a newly rebuilt head, or a thrashed stock K2 thou? That's the other decision I need to make within the next few weeks (I'm leaning toward the SRAD).

It would be nice to be able to head off into the gravel.

Question for you - you know the steep track on DOC land that goes up the big hill near Port Jackson? There's a stream to cross in the farmland just before you hit the track, etc. I went up it on foot carrying my MTB during the Colville Connection race in '05, I remember it well. Would one of the 650 singles handle something like that with the right tyres on, or would it not really be doable without a full-on MX bike?

[Quasievil]

It would be nice to be able to head off into the gravel.

Question for you - you know the steep track on DOC land that goes up the big hill near Port Jackson? There's a stream to cross in the farmland just before you hit the track, etc. I went up it on foot carrying my MTB during the Colville Connection race in '05, I remember it well. Would one of the 650 singles handle something like that with the right tyres on, or would it not really be doable without a full-on MX bike?

I was up at Port Jackson about three weeks ago, I didnt cross a stream in a farm as such but there are a number of fords which I went around so as to go through the stream or river (much more challenging) I crossed them piece of piss.
At the end of the road there is a DOC camping area, with a road that leads up to the farm house, there is a small bridge, I avoided the bridge and went through the river 3 or 4 times , no prob.
My KLR gets through alot of shit before its a problem, thats on the standard tyres also, additionally (kwaka plug coming up) I did 400 kms on one tank of gas that day before refuelling, hows that (22 litre tank) and I was comfy as hell the whole way.
I love it, Im about to try and configure it so I can carry my fly rod etc and have a KLR fishing bike !!

[jrandom]

KLR... 400 kms on one tank of gas

OK, a couple of the 650 singles are now on my "must test-ride" list.

:cool:

[SVboy]

I was going to say a Suzi SV1000, with yoshis, fits your $10000 budget, comfortable[ish], but sounds like things are taking an Adventure turn....

[bane]

the speedtriple has been a common theme, but where do you get one for $10k? (unless it an old thrashed 955).


Im interested in the outcome - looking for something (in similar price range) a bit more exciting than the (zzz)GSXF, without more weight (210kg), and without a crippling riding position.


btw, have you tried a Daytona 955i Dan? If yes, what's the riding position like?

[Quasievil]

the speedtriple has been a common theme, but where do you get one for $10k? (unless it an old thrashed 955).


Im interested in the outcome - looking for something (in similar price range) a bit more exciting than the (zzz)GSXF, without more weight (210kg), and without a crippling riding position.


btw, have you tried a Daytona 955i Dan? If yes, what's the riding position like?

Isnt a speed triple a naked bike, and with some of the others how comfy would they be touring for 3 hours or more, sounds to me like a bike with a decent blade would be better

[jrandom]

Isnt a speed triple a naked bike, and with some of the others how comfy would they be touring for 3 hours or more, sounds to me like a bike with a decent blade would be better

It's not the windblast that bothers me; I'm not a small fulla, I can hold on just fine. I like sitting up in the wind. The sole problem, the one and only problem, is my legs. I need to not have them folded up too far underneath me.

[BarBender]

Fazer :niceone:

[DMNTD]

Falco...if anyone has done a Norfland ride of old and has met Girvi they'll understand! :shifty:

[jrandom]

Falco...

Aprilia's answer to the VFR, eh.

Pegs look too high. I'll try one, but I don't think it'll be the ticket. Also, they just don't turn me on. One way or another, any bike I own and ride has to turn me on. That is not negotiable. In fact, I'd rather put up with the discomfort of a gixxer than have a bike that didn't hurt to ride, but that I didn't get excited about, or even worse, actively disliked the look of.

For instance, a certain floppy-haired KBer was cheeky enough to suggest to me this morning that I buy a Multistrada. We are now no longer on speaking terms.

[DMNTD]

Also, they just don't turn me on. One way or another, any bike I own and ride has to turn me on. That is not negotiable. In fact, I'd rather put up with the discomfort of a gixxer than have a bike that didn't hurt to ride, but that I didn't get excited about, or even worse, actively disliked the look of.


Dunno about it being the answer to the VFR,VTR maybe.

Re the doing it for you over comfort...99.9% agreed! You seen my bike right.
To me is rolling pornography however its seat is harder than John Holmes ever managed.
Would I change it? The seat yes.,...the bike? NEVER!!! until the next one

[jrandom]

Dunno about it being the answer to the VFR,VTR maybe.

Mmm, true true. I was thinking of it in terms of being Aprilia's slightly softer-focus all-round offering alongside the 'pure sprotsbike' RSVs. Which, I might add, have never really grabbed me. Dunno why not. I just sort of go "hmm, nice bike" but don't feel the desire. Bit like seeing a hot Asian chick - you appreciate it on a certain level, and you know that some guys are all about it, but it's just not your thing.

Blondes and GSXRs ftw. ;)


To me is rolling pornography however its seat is harder than John Holmes ever managed.
Would I change it? The seat yes.,...the bike? NEVER!!!

Word.

[nodrog]

you could always fit ape hangers and forward contols on the gixxer?

or change to flat bars like these

http://www.streetfighterstore.co.uk/comfort_kit_+_handlebars/325

[Cajun]

question have you tried a newer model gixxer, they are meant to be alot more comfortable?

[jrandom]

you could always fit ape hangers and forward contols on the gixxer?

It's all about the peg position, dude. Just the distance from seat to pegs, nothing more. It seems to be a little unusual, too; most guys that don't like sprotsbike ergos seem to run into issues with wrists and shoulders, etc.

I've never had a single twinge in my upper body from riding any bike; it's just that I have particularly inflexible legs from several years of over-focused training without proper stretching, followed by being a lazy-arse pie eater for the last two or three. Not to mention a handful of knee injuries from bins that slowly add up over time.

I must have a certain minimum distance between seat and pegs to be able to cover the miles without agony.

[jrandom]

question have you tried a newer model gixxer, they are meant to be alot more comfortable?

I'll try one, but I don't think the seat-to-peg distance has increased. If the ergos have changed they've probably just moved more in ZXR directions, ie, less of a stretch to the bars. As stated above, that isn't my problem.

[nodrog]

I must have a certain minimum distance between seat and pegs to be able to cover the miles without agony.

how much more distance you reckon you need? one of my mates made up some plates to move his pegs down 30mm on his gixxer when he had knee surgery, was piss easy and only took about 1 hour.

[jrandom]

how much more distance you reckon you need? one of my mates made up some plates to move his pegs down 30mm on his gixxer when he had knee surgery, was piss easy and only took about 1 hour.

Not sure to be honest, and yes that could definitely be an option, ideally with the ability to quickly swap them back to stock position for the track.

I shall investigate that too. :)

[HenryDorsetCase]

Right, not to put too fine a point on it, gixxers hurt my legs after 3 hours or so. Too many years of squatting and deadlifting and then cycling. I am very inflexible.

It's gotten to the point where I can't be arsed doing day trips up and down the countryside, even when I have very good reason to do them, because I know I'll be in a foul mood afterwards.

I still end up going, but, you know. The joy just isn't there.

A quick spin on Finn's Brutale the other day confirmed my suspicions about what sort of bike would make me happy.

I can't afford a Brutale, so what should I buy?

Hypothetical for the moment. Let's say the budget's about $10K. Give me some ideas. I just want something that goes fast, handles well and doesn't hurt. Not a tubby tourer, though.

Speed Triple?

Bandit?

Fazer?

(gulp)... Hornet?

Hornet for sure. Honda reliability, cheaper than a Speed Triple, and not a Fazer..

[jrandom]

Hornet for sure. Honda reliability, cheaper than a Speed Triple, and not a Fazer..

I have this idea in the back of my head that stock Hornet suspension is not all that it could be.

Guess I'll just have to take one out for a thrash and see, won't I?

[Devil]

I have this idea in the back of my head that stock Hornet suspension is not all that it could be.

Guess I'll just have to take one out for a thrash and see, won't I?

Second hand hornet + $2k of ohlins = fixed.

[HenryDorsetCase]

I have this idea in the back of my head that stock Hornet suspension is not all that it could be.

Guess I'll just have to take one out for a thrash and see, won't I?

absolutely right, but a cheap Ohlins is $1200 and a fork rebuild with appropriate rate springs say another $1200. Given a secondhand Hornet is $8k or so, there's your ten large.

or you could buy mine with Ohlins fork springs (standard otherwise) and Ohlins shock fitted. If you are heavier than about 75-80kg you would need different spring rates though.

[Riff Raff]

Hey Dan, why don't you buy my R6. I dunno if it will solve the leg problem, but at least you'll look really, really cool!

[Hitcher]

so what should I buy?

A ZRX1200R. You so know you want one.

[jafar]

I have this idea in the back of my head that stock Hornet suspension is not all that it could be.

Guess I'll just have to take one out for a thrash and see, won't I?

Stock hornet rear shocks are a bit hmmm i'm led to believe, the cb1300 runs twin shocks & doesn't suffer from the same problem.

[sels1]

It's all about the peg position, dude. Just the distance from seat to pegs, nothing more. It seems to be a little unusual, too; most guys that don't like sprotsbike ergos seem to run into issues with wrists and shoulders, etc.

Had a look at a Triumph Tiger (pre 07 model)?
Very comfy

[slowpoke]

What are you comparing the Brutale's riding position too?
The SRAD is renowned for it's uncompromising riding position but those K2 thou's are pretty comfortable, certainly more so than the Brutale you rode. This is from one Brutale road test: "Furthermore, the high-and-tight pegs would turn knee replacement surgery into a semi-annual event, while the harsh and choppy suspension would earn your chiropractor a new Rolex every week." I don't recall that sort of sentiment from any recent Japanese sports bike test.
I had a 916 a while back,and those early 916-998 dukes are about as bad as it gets. My partner had a K1 GSXR1000 that felt like a Lazy-boy lounge chair after climbing off the 916.

[jrandom]

What are you comparing the Brutale's riding position too?
The SRAD is renowned for it's uncompromising riding position but those K2 thou's are pretty comfortable, certainly more so than the Brutale you rode. This is from one Brutale road test...

:blink:

I boggle at the suggestion that a GSX-R1000 K2 is more comfortable than a Brutale.

Your comments make no sense. Are you, perhaps, confusing the Brutale and the F4?

Given that I started this thread more or less immediately after hopping off the bikes I've mentioned, don't you think that it's a bit dubious to quote some magazine test back at me? I rode the fucking thing, dude.

And, yes, of course. I'm sure there are bikes that are less comfortable than the K2. So what?

I hereby award you the "most pointless post in this thread" prize.

[Unit]

So Mr Jrandom, have you got a list of preferences for us thus far? I do strongly suggest (given your original spec and my bias) regardless of budget at this stage (small detail we will give you lessons) you include the ZX14. At least (humour me) give one a test ride, you will be highly impressed with the weight distribution and the balance of the bike, which is the great thing about them, but still a sports bike ride

[James Deuce]

His budget is $10K unit. You find me a $10k ZX14 and I'll stomp through Jrandom's steaming eviscerated entrails, cash in hand, to make sure it is mine.

[Unit]

His budget is $10K unit. You find me a $10k ZX14 and I'll stomp through Jrandom's steaming eviscerated entrails, cash in hand, to make sure it is mine.

Look there's such a thing as creative accounting, believe me, I know :rolleyes: and like I said, just give us a preference list not withstanding budget at this stage, but focus on type of bike, always worry about the bucks last I say, people will always find a way to stretch a bit (I encourage it, can you tell? :whistle:)

[jafar]

Look there's such a thing as creative accounting, believe me, I know :rolleyes: and like I said, just give us a preference list not withstanding budget at this stage, but focus on type of bike, always worry about the bucks last I say, people will always find a way to stretch a bit (I encourage it, can you tell? :whistle:)

This will be interesting :wait::corn::corn:

[James Deuce]

Not a reality for some of us I'm afraid.

[The Pastor]

Or jrandom could just HTFU.

[jrandom]

Or jrandom could just HTFU.

I've spent the last few months HTFUing on regular occasions for 800km days on the gixxers, and I'm over it. I want my riding to be 100% enjoyable, instead of having it be something that requires 'HTFU'.

And a list of bike preferences?

I'm just going to take it one bike at a time. I'll test ride a CB1300 this week.

Then I think I'll try an FZ1, a Hornet 900 and a Speed Triple back to back.

I'll wangle a decent thrash on each of the above along the usual Coatesville-Riverhead, Old North Rd test track, and report.

[Hitcher]

Prediction: Out of that lot you'll prefer the FZ1 -- that's one model Mr Yamaha got really right. Try the old model Kawasaki Z1000 too if you can find one, although you will probably have to upgrade the seat for longer distances.

[jafar]

I've spent the last few months HTFUing on regular occasions for 800km days on the gixxers, and I'm over it. I want my riding to be 100% enjoyable, instead of having it be something that requires 'HTFU'.

And a list of bike preferences?

I'm just going to take it one bike at a time. I'll test ride a CB1300 this week.

Then I think I'll try an FZ1, a Hornet 900 and a Speed Triple back to back.

I'll wangle a decent thrash on each of the above along the usual Coatesville-Riverhead, Old North Rd test track, and report.

Thats the idea , start @ the top & work your way down :laugh:

[Qkkid]

I've spent the last few months HTFUing on regular occasions for 800km days on the gixxers, and I'm over it. I want my riding to be 100% enjoyable, instead of having it be something that requires 'HTFU'.

And a list of bike preferences?

I'm just going to take it one bike at a time. I'll test ride a CB1300 this week.

Then I think I'll try an FZ1, a Hornet 900 and a Speed Triple back to back.

I'll wangle a decent thrash on each of the above along the usual Coatesville-Riverhead, Old North Rd test track, and report.

How about a VFR800 :bleh: and to go with it instead of watching someone else steal our plate nick Dawns plate for a second time yourself :confused:to go on the back of ya VFR800 ....INFACT....:bleh: BETTER still just steal her whole bike be alot easier:msn-wink:

[jrandom]

How about a VFR800 :bleh: and to go with it instead of watching someone else steal our plate nick Dawns plate for a second time yourself :confused:to go on the back of ya VFR800 ....INFACT....:bleh: BETTER still just steal her whole bike be alot easier:msn-wink:

Saiight dude I have a perfectly good personalised plate of my own these days.

'5QUID'.

:laugh:

(No, really.)

And I still owe youse fullas for that plate debacle, I'll be at the ATNR this week, so catch you then.

[Qkkid]

Seriously Dawn loves the V tec and itsa a more upright position thats why she likes it. Wheneva im sure we will catch up sometime matey:2thumbsup

[James Deuce]

Seriously Dawn loves the V tec .

That's the first time I've ever seen that written down.

I may have to try one.

[AllanB]

$10k budget

$11k = brand spanking new Hornet 900 (919), 2 year warranty, and your legs will be fine! Plus its a Honda so it will go forever......

There's a few year old ones at dealers etc cheaper will the balance of the warranty leaving $ for bling....

CB1300 - $13500 weighs 30 odd kg more than the Hornet & very average fuel economy, solid tourer though.

SV1000S - $12500 & your legs will hate you..... plus the TL looked better......

Speed tripple - not a chance at 10k

Might get a jap import Ducati but the SV would be a better buy as a V-twin.

Me - I'd get the HORNET - funny that!

[skelstar]

Only get the Hornet if you're going to put money into the susspension. Theres a $0 exhaust mod that will make it sound better than any commercial can that I've heard on a Hornet.

Great motor though, and with the right bars you'll do 230km non-stop stretches easy.

[AllanB]

I heard a lot of chatter about the Hornet suspension before purchasing - honestly I find it AOK for street riding and its a hoot around the hills, heaps better than the 1200ss I had previously. Mind you I'm only 73kg. The 05 on models come with adjustable damping front and rear (previous ones preload only) and this improved a lot of the complaints. SV's are the same, CB1300's XJR's all budget related suspenders, you don't get top units for the prices these bikes retail at. Cheapest Hornets, SV's and 1300 on the planet - check out what Aussie and England pay!

I'd be keen to ride a Olins kitted one just to see if it was worth the $2k plus difference for road riding.

[James Deuce]

I'd be keen to ride a Olins kitted one just to see if it was worth the $2k plus difference for road riding.

It is. The difference is night and day.

[Badcat]

used with less than 10k on the clock.
around your budget.
it's brilliant, handles like a sportsbike, but more relaxing riding position.
i'm 6'2 and 90 kilos - was great with me and madass (new KB member) two up.
i was looking at all the ones you were.
one 2 hour ride sold me.
bought it from kerry at motohaus.
he has a red one still too i think.
i bought the yellow one - it had bags (and they are a hoot!)
PM me if you want to discuss.

ken

[vifferman]

Seriously Dawn loves the V tec and itsa a more upright position thats why she likes it.
Yebbut Jay Random said he was used to 150 horsies - the VFR's only 100ish.


I heard a lot of chatter about the Hornet suspension before purchasing - honestly I find it AOK for street riding and its a hoot around the hills, heaps better than the 1200ss I had previously.
How does it go? "The best suspension is the best you've ever ridden"?

When I had the VTR1000, despite its suspension being much maligned, I actually found it pretty good - heaps better than anything else I'd ridden.
It's all relative.

[jrandom]

Yebbut Jay Random said he was used to 150 horsies - the VFR's only 100ish.

I've spoiled myself this year. I don't need 150, that's just a bit silly. The only real power requirement is that the bike happily pull like a train in whatever gear I like. I don't really need the top-end YEEEEEHAAAAAAA!

[ManDownUnder]

I don't see you as an RF kinda guy but when you come by you're welcome to take her for a spin and form your own impressions...

Or you could buy a cruis ah ha ha ha ha haaaa!!!!:whistle::2guns::dodge:

[jrandom]

I don't see you as an RF kinda guy but when you come by you're welcome to take her for a spin and form your own impressions...

Thank you, sir, I shall. But, no, I don't think an RF will be my thing. Apart from anything else I don't want an old-ish bike that I'm going to have to do a bunch of work on almost immediately.


Or you could buy a cruis ah ha ha ha ha haaaa!!!!:whistle::2guns::dodge:

Well, you know, I could see myself on a cruiser. All that rolls on two wheels is good as far as I'm concerned. The problem is that cruisers fuck my back almost as bad as sportbikes fuck my legs. Neither riding position is 'natural'.

[kiwifruit]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports/photos/a-123399926/p-52097479.htm

[jrandom]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports/photos/a-123399926/p-52097479.htm

Seat-to-peg ergonomics, old bean. Wouldn't work.

[kiwifruit]

Seat-to-peg ergonomics, old bean. Wouldn't work.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports/photos/a-118541468/p-49099398.htm

comfy
fast
good for running the missis about the country
etc

[crazybigal]

id get a tiger 955, do anyting on it all day!

[AllanB]

http://www.trademe.co.nz:80/a.asp?id=127278322

bargin - warranty for a year as well.

[Clivoris]

Get this (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=127377444) even if you have to get on all fours for the bank-manager and his dirty friends.

[jrandom]

Hmm!

I'm starting to think along 'R' lines.

<img src="http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/tq/91/52886891.jpg"/>

Sticker price: $9999. Oh my...

[kiwifruit]

get the sporty one grandad
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports/auction-126101117.htm

http://i5.tinypic.com/8bfbtdx.jpg

[jrandom]

get the sporty one grandad

Nope. If I get a BMW, it'll be an R, end of story.

<img src="http://www.motornet.be/modellen/images/040305_BMW_Rockster-beeld-1.jpg"/>

Also, seat to peg ergonomics! How many times do I have to repeat that phrase?

[kiwifruit]

http://i4.tinypic.com/8dwo8eo.jpg

[Hitcher]

http://www.motorcycletrader.co.nz/UsedItemDetails.aspx?N=4294967141+4294966424+0&item=5011&sid=11644A48BD8E

A sharp price for a new one! Chuck the 020s immediately and replace with Roadtec Z6s. Fucking. Yum. O.

[kiwifruit]

^ gosh yes!

[RDJ]

Buy a Boss Hoss 8.2 L

[Kelem]

A monster maybe

[Clivoris]

Definitely ride an S4R monster before making your decision. They must have come down in price by now. But that Eddie Lawson thing is pretty horney too.

[jrandom]

I slept in this morning and flagged zrxer's Coro loop, but I just got back from a lovely little northwest loop on the K2.

Gah.

I'm not sure anymore, now. Do I really want to give up the GSXR's power and precise handling?

I'll proceed with the test ride plans and post my impressions of each bike, but any final decision on abandoning sprotbikes for 2008 won't be made until closer to Christmas, when the fettling process on my SRAD has been completed and it's done a couple of trackdays.

:yes:

[Unit]

Shame you missed the coro ride today, most likely would have made you keep your gsxr anyhows with all those beautiful twisties :woohoo:
Whens your first test ride, and on what?

[MacD]

http://www.motorcycletrader.co.nz/UsedItemDetails.aspx?N=4294967141+4294966424+0&item=5011&sid=11644A48BD8E

A sharp price for a new one! Chuck the 020s immediately and replace with Roadtec Z6s. Fucking. Yum. O.

Great bikes and the mini-fairing does a surprisingly good job. In the same vein eliot-ness's Bandit (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=61261)is a great deal for somebody!

Take one of these types of bikes for a ride and you'll be surprised at what you can keep up with through the twisties, plus you can ride them for 100s of km in comfort. I rode Auckland-Wellington-Dunedin in two days last year with a dodgy knee and back without any problems.

[jrandom]

Took an '03 Speed Triple out on the usual test track today.

Will write up my impressions this evening.

:yes:

[jrandom]

Forget the Street Triple, my next test ride is in an hour's time and it will be...

A black '96 FXDWG.

:cool:

Muahahahahahahaha!

Why am I so excited?

[Goblin]

Forget the Street Triple, my next test ride is in an hour's time and it will be...

A black '96 FXDWG.

:cool:

Muahahahahahahaha!

Why am I so excited?
Maybe because test riding bikes in ya lunch time is exciting! I'm so green with envy, 'cept it's not brand new.

Blonde question time...WTF is a FXDWG?
Edit: Oooooh I see! :banana: I'd be excited too.:laugh::spudwow::spudbooge:spudwave:

[GSVR]

Get a convertible. You don't have to wear a helmet, can carry all sorts of shit and if it rains just put the lid up. Chicks dig convertibles and they come at prices to suit all budgets.

When you want to have a blat on a bike just organise a test ride.

I can see myself getting banned soon.

[Hitcher]

WTF is a FXDWG?

It's a Dyna Wide-Glide. Not that that reveals anything more than the acronym. Unless you're "into" Harleys or have a chrome-cleaning fetish, or enjoy having your privates tingle over comparatively long distances.

And, on another related and significant matter, "Daniel, you cannot be serious".

[kiwifruit]

suits you sir :cool:

[jrandom]

It's a Dyna Wide-Glide. Not that that reveals anything more than the acronym. Unless you're "into" Harleys or have a chrome-cleaning fetish...

Harrumph.

I will have you know, sir, that I have been drooling over said model for over a decade, and will brook no naysaying of my irrational attraction now that I'm old enough and ugly enough to convince dealers to hand over keys.

My ride review will be posted shortly.

Summary: FXDWG FTW.

<img src="http://i16.tinypic.com/80w65xs.jpg"/>


And, on another related and significant matter, "Daniel, you cannot be serious".

:shifty:

[scumdog]

Nice bike, love the front wheel!

A cruiser par exellant (sed wiff French axehent)

[Unit]

Dang thats a nice looking bike, write up please Im interested

[saltydog]

Na na na. Prehistoric those Harleys they are. You keep riding more demos and let us know what you really like.
These things take time grasshopper.
or just say, fuck it. take a can of harden up and a couple of voltarin.