Braided lines - requirements changed

[tl_tub]

Ive just been to VTNZ (adelaide rd, wellington) for a wof, and not surprising, braided lines that passed 10 months ago no longer do.

There is now no requirement to have a standard printed on the lines, so go ahead and use that old garden hose!

The inspection manual says
reasons for rejection, part 18 (g):
"has an end fitting that is not attached to the hose by means of swaging, machine crimping or a similar process (note 6)

note six says:
"nose end fittings that can be undone using handtools are unacceptable"

Unfortunately VTNZ interpret this to mean that there is to be no screw fitting at all, appart from the bolt that goes into the caliper. They pointed to my original rear line where the banjo connector is clamped straight onto the rubber hose and said this was acceptable.
So far I have found all braded lines have a crimp at the end of the tube, then a selection of banjo connectors screw into that - according to them this does not comply

Usual story, "if you supply a letter saying they comply we will pass it"

Is this something that needs to be cleared up with LTSA? And why the hell don't they require a standard for the lines any longer, thats just crazy!!

Just a heads up :)


Edit: After searching again with different words I find im not the only one that has come across misinterpretation of the wof rules: http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=49062&page=2

[FROSTY]

Dude Flick Alex--Norwest on the site aN e mail--Hes one of the guys who is involved in setting the standards and can make sense of em for you.
I suspect its that stations latest "hot topic" --they go through waves with em

[tl_tub]

Done, cheers frosty.

[Swoop]

Usual story, "if you supply a letter saying they comply we will pass it"
Normal public servant mentality. "We have made a rule, so you can now go and spend a lot of your time trying to prove that we are wrong..."

[tl_tub]

Normal public servant mentality. "We have made a rule, so you can now go and spend a lot of your time trying to prove that we are wrong..."

And usually all you can do is write off the $32 and find another place that will issue the wof :(

[Gremlin]

The laws change too much to really want to "just" comply with the current laws. Indeed, they change so much, that some shops won't stock them, due to being left with useless stock if the laws change.

Given the laws can happily change in the future, my lines have a cert with them, numbers, can't be fiddled with etc. No way imho, that they will ever fail.

[tl_tub]

The laws change too much to really want to "just" comply with the current laws. Indeed, they change so much, that some shops won't stock them, due to being left with useless stock if the laws change.

Given the laws can happily change in the future, my lines have a cert with them, numbers, can't be fiddled with etc. No way imho, that they will ever fail.

Ooo! What type of lines are they? Did they come with the cert from the manufacturer, or do they have a low volume certification?

[Gremlin]

Ooo! What type of lines are they? Did they come with the cert from the manufacturer, or do they have a low volume certification?
braided ones made by a manufacturer in east tamaki, auckland. My mate Jace, who runs www.motostyle.co.nz sorted me out, and because they were made to order, I could pick colour of lines, fittings etc.

[imdying]

Wrote some stuff on here about this, you can dig it out. Basically, the problem you describe comes about from hoses that are female female, then adaptor banjos are used to make them fit the varied applications... which is legal in NZ, but if the WOF man ain't on his game re brakes, he's not likely to know how to interpret the rule correctly. My previous post outlines my opinion on that.