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jrandom
12th November 2007, 09:38
You, sir, on your GN250, were filtering nicely southbound over the harbour bridge today, right up until you swerved in front of a truck to move from lane 2 to filtering-lane 3A, appearing not to notice that I was barrelling up 3A right behind you.

Before entering a filtering lane, particularly when cutting in front of a truck, stop and check your mirrors for other motorcyclists coming up behind you, particularly at reasonable pace. If I hadn't seen you coming from the other side of the truck, I wouldn't have grabbed the brakes, and we could have gone down in a charming little Suzuki tangle.

You need to work on your situational awareness. It's almost always a bad idea to make such abrupt maneuvers when filtering. Take an extra second or two and scope things out before diving into gaps. You're not the only bike on the road.

Rant over.

:doobey:

janno
12th November 2007, 09:40
Flame thrower, front mounted.

Easy peasy.

bugjuice
12th November 2007, 09:45
lamo.. for a minute there, i thought the priest was preaching!!

then i realised was just you

James Deuce
12th November 2007, 09:48
Had a big giant cruiser thing with panniers weave at me on Friday night on the way home from work. I was ready for him because I "knew" he'd do it and steered around. He had no idea I was there and just lurched into the space I was occupying.

There's usually no point shouting though because they either get it and will be more careful in future, or they think it is their inalienable right to hold everyone up. I've often seen posted on KB, 'It is the person behind who is responsible for making a pass stick" - On the racetrack definitely. On the road you have a responsibility to share. Simple concept, usually drummed into people as a toddler.

Grahameeboy
12th November 2007, 09:51
You, sir, on your GN250, were filtering nicely southbound over the harbour bridge today, right up until you swerved in front of a truck to move from lane 2 to filtering-lane 3A, appearing not to notice that I was barrelling up 3A right behind you.

Before entering a filtering lane, particularly when cutting in front of a truck, stop and check your mirrors for other motorcyclists coming up behind you, particularly at reasonable pace. If I hadn't seen you coming from the other side of the truck, I wouldn't have grabbed the brakes, and we could have gone down in a charming little Suzuki tangle.

You need to work on your situational awareness. It's almost always a bad idea to make such abrupt maneuvers when filtering. Take an extra second or two and scope things out before diving into gaps. You're not the only bike on the road.



:doobey:


It was a GN400 silly..................lives in Mairangi Bay......and his rego is current:bleh:

FROSTY
12th November 2007, 09:55
But mr random--why were YOu barrelling down on him at a rate of knots --where was your situational awareness? --Ohh you diddnt hit him-musta been ok then

jrandom
12th November 2007, 09:57
It was a GN400 silly..................lives in Mairangi Bay......and his rego is current:bleh:

Heh!

My Motochek account has lapsed, or I would have known this too. ;)

Yes, his acceleration did surprise me slightly. And he was riding rather confidently for a learner.

jrandom
12th November 2007, 09:59
But mr random--why were YOu barrelling down on him at a rate of knots --where was your situational awareness? --Ohh you diddnt hit him-musta been ok then

Exactly.

I had his location and speed pegged all the way along, never came close to hitting him. If I hadn't, though, we'd both have been toast. He shouldn't be putting his life in the hands of another rider that way.

FROSTY
12th November 2007, 10:00
Hey reminds me --If you ride a 99-04 CBR600 and 2 wendsdays ago were riding down the nor western past lincoln road offramp--Dude you were so very nearly toast it was unbelieveable
You flipped from the moving at 70km/h fast lane into the at that point open slow lane -no dramas there--if you had looked first.
The driver of the nissan skyline doing 100km/h in the slow lane had the entire car locked up and sideways trying to miss hitting you-Dunno how he did it to be honest

Grahameeboy
12th November 2007, 10:00
Heh!

My Motochek account has lapsed, or I would have known this too. ;)

Yes, his acceleration did surprise me slightly. And he was riding rather confidently for a learner.

I get mine free..........

Don't worry, wont give you a hard time when you get home:laugh:

Lucy
12th November 2007, 11:00
It was a GN400 silly..................lives in Mairangi Bay......and his rego is current:bleh:

There is a GN 400????

GET ME ONE!

:yes:

Grahameeboy
12th November 2007, 11:03
There is a GN 400????

GET ME ONE!

:yes:

Bossy..................

Lucy
12th November 2007, 11:08
Bossy..................

Oh yeah, sorry about that, I forgot I was on kiwibiker and thought I was back at kindy.

My bad

:girlfight:

Astrocat
12th November 2007, 12:43
Never ceases to amaze me how many people have a fit, because the person in front of them didnt see them come BARRELING UP BEHIND THEM AT A NUMBER OF KNOTS.

Although i agree that the GN should have used his mirroes better, i dont agree with the fact that the person opening this thread has to nerve to have the attitide of........."oh please excuse me, im going faster. How rude of you to be in front of me as i plow through":spanking:

jrandom
12th November 2007, 12:52
Never ceases to amaze me how many people have a fit, because the person in front of them didnt see them come BARRELING UP BEHIND THEM AT A NUMBER OF KNOTS.

We were both filtering at a similar speed. He pulled ahead and cut in front of me without realising I was there.

I would never criticise someone who was riding like they were a car, for instance. Filtering is all about taking responsibility for getting out of the way of vehicles that aren't.

However, when one filtering rider just about takes out another one, it's time for a wakeup call. Moving quickly but safely through heavy traffic on an 8-lane motorway when it's already slushy and doing 50+kph in parts is a risky business that demands a high level of concentration.

Once again, if we hadn't both been playing the same game, I wouldn't be presuming to make the comments that I did. If, for instance, a car moves over in front of me when I'm filtering, it's my responsibility not to hit it.

RantyDave
12th November 2007, 12:58
where was your situational awareness?
Sounds like it was excellent to me. I imagine he thought "Oh, look, there's some noob on a GN I bet he's gonna ... y'know ... yeah, there it is you dozy git" - and hence we're reading a "concentrate" thread rather than a biker down one.

Dave

Astrocat
13th November 2007, 06:48
Having read the responces, post mine, i conceed my comment and have to agree that mirrors are there to be used. regardless what type of transport being used, many mistakes occur because of the time honours excuse "....oh im sorry, i didnt see you...". Too late afterwards to say sorry, we all have a personal responsibility to ensure that mirrors are used. Good thinking for the rider following the GN. Pre-emptive thought prevented an accident from occuring. Well Done. :2thumbsup My apologies for my comment.

ceebie13
13th November 2007, 07:24
... i dont agree with the fact that the person opening this thread has to nerve to have the attitide of........."oh please excuse me, im going faster. How rude of you to be in front of me as i plow through":spanking:

But didn't you know... you have just described the typical Kiwi road user's way of thinking... "I'm behind you, therefore I must get in front"

Fatjim
13th November 2007, 09:18
absolutely, now get out the way!

ceebie13
13th November 2007, 09:22
absolutely, now get out the way!

Have'nt you missed out an expletive, Jim?

DougieNZ
13th November 2007, 09:25
Hang on...

Was that "don't perform an illegal manoeuvre in front of my illegal manoeuvre" ???


[ducks]

jrandom
13th November 2007, 09:27
Was that "don't perform an illegal manoeuvre in front of my illegal manoeuvre" ???

Yup!

Spot on.

Add to that, "or we're both going down in a tangled heap".

:niceone:

DougieNZ
13th November 2007, 09:30
Sop what if the motorcyclist was not filtering and changed lanes in front of you. His/her fault or yours?:confused:

jrandom
13th November 2007, 09:31
Sop what if the motorcyclist was not filtering and changed lanes in front of you. His/her fault or yours?:confused:

Mine, like I said earlier.

James Deuce
13th November 2007, 09:34
absolutely, now get out the way!
You know I do!

Squiggles
13th November 2007, 11:20
How do i get to the front of this thread?

Disco Dan
13th November 2007, 13:03
Having read the responces, post mine, i conceed my comment and have to agree that mirrors are there to be used. regardless what type of transport being used, many mistakes occur because of the time honours excuse "....oh im sorry, i didnt see you...". Too late afterwards to say sorry, we all have a personal responsibility to ensure that mirrors are used. Good thinking for the rider following the GN. Pre-emptive thought prevented an accident from occuring. Well Done. :2thumbsup My apologies for my comment.

Shouldnt you be working?? :girlfight: oh wait... im going to be late for work.. damit! :whistle:

discotex
13th November 2007, 20:41
How do i get to the front of this thread?

Splitting on the information superhighway......... (wow there's a 90's term!)