Here we go again...

[Finn]

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/1/story.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10475728

I am so over this cultural shit that it's beyond a joke now. We've just got to get rid of this ridiculous Government and put an abrupt stop to this and all the other shit going on.

On law for all. If you don't like it, get the fuck out of my country.

[SimJen]

Yep, what he said!

[onearmedbandit]

Ha ha ha, stole a statue from a 'pub' and got a curse, bwahahahahahaha.

[Paul in NZ]

Have to agree - dumb as a puddle....

[Stickchick]

i suppose the family is lucky it was only one death and not two

[jrandom]

the family is lucky it was only one death and not two

And the rest of the country is unlucky...

[mynameis]

On law for all. If you don't like it, get the fuck out of my country.



As much as we all would like to think that is a fair way of governing, the fact remains soceity doesn't work like that. There have been many examples of countires failing and I don't like to say this but Aunty Helen isn't doing a bad job.

[boomer]

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/1/story.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10475728

I am so over this cultural shit that it's beyond a joke now. We've just got to get rid of this ridiculous Government and put an abrupt stop to this and all the other shit going on.

On law for all. If you don't like it, get the fuck out of my country.

Hey White boy... reality check. :blank:


:lol: at your signature; and where have 5,000 of your posts gone mate.. bwahahahaha

[Mikkel]

i suppose the family is lucky it was only one death and not two

Yep... the family!

Nah, seriously... that stuff cracks me up! New Zealand, 2007, death through exorcism of evil spirit brought on by theft of pub statue... :lol:

[BuFfY]

So they kill someone and cry culture? For fucksake. They are more than happy to exclude themselves when they do something wrong, but if it goes negatively against them they start crying racism.

"I guess at the end of the day it's a question of whether the cultural practices are acceptable or unacceptable or whether they have crossed boundaries which negate them from being a traditional practice," Detective Levy said.

Yet they then go on to say that no one does that any more because the maori have been urbanised?

[Finn]

As much as we all would like to think that is a fair way of governing, the fact remains soceity doesn't work like that. There have been many examples of countires failing and I don't like to say this but Aunty Helen isn't doing a bad job.

And one has to expect that there are some members of society with their heads so far up their arses that they've almost disappeared.

[JimO]

who gives a shit as long as they are only killing each other off

[Patrick]

40 arrests of those "that were in the house at the time" for "Accessory after the Fact" would soon have them squealing as to who the culprits actually were... :girlfight:

Or more likely, claiming Police Racism....:jerry::buggerd:

Oh well......

Sigh..................

[BIGBOSSMAN]

Makes a change I guess, drowning in water (rather than Lion Red...)

[BuFfY]

who gives a shit as long as they are only killing each other off

Ha ha good point!
I don't think us 'pakehas' will be wanting to be involved in their ceremonies to get rid of our bad spirits etc (not that we would have wanted to before this incident anyway)
That shit is like so 70 years ago

[vifferman]

Have to agree - dumb as a puddle....
Well, the victim was a puddle afterwards.
But I can't see what they're getting upset about - the cure had a permanently effective outcome.

[Grahameeboy]

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/1/story.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10475728

I am so over this cultural shit that it's beyond a joke now. We've just got to get rid of this ridiculous Government and put an abrupt stop to this and all the other shit going on.

On law for all. If you don't like it, get the fuck out of my country.

Read what it says and wait for outcome before jumping up and down.

While the investigation was being treated as a homicide, there were a lot of legal and cultural issues to work through.

The Police are treating the death as homocide and have simply qualified some issues.......they have not said that they are not taking action.

[DMNTD]

Maybe we should all band together being the superior race and all and sort them out?



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[Grahameeboy]

Maybe we should all band together being the superior race and all and sort them out?



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But you are the Duke.............

[jrandom]

Maybe we should all band together being the superior race and all and sort them out?

Sieg Heil!

er...

Hang on, who else did I see using that phrase recently? Although it was, of course, misspelled.

:laugh:

[007XX]

Maybe we should all band together being the superior race and all and sort them out?


Ggggrrrrrrrr....:mad:

:oi-grr:

[DMNTD]

Ggggrrrrrrrr....:mad:

:oi-grr:

Surely you recognise the massive amount of sarcasm!
Just seemed to suit the tone of this thread.

Hey don't get me wrong...jail the fuckers,but...

[boomer]

Surely you recognise the massive amount of sarcasm!
Just seemed to suit the tone of this thread.

Hey don't get me wrong...jail the fuckers,but...

some can't see further than there nose; Finn can't see further than the counter tho...

[Paul in NZ]

I have no prob with cultural practices.. Fill yer boots I say... Not much different to heading off the the kirk on a sunday if you are that way inclined.

The issue is always where do you draw the line... male circumcision is OK female - not OK... Dropping a hangi in the back yard is OK, strangling a pig on the front yard is not OK...

Ceremony - OK, fatal ones - erm no.. I guess like all cultures Maori are inflicted with neer do wells who claim all sorts of magical ability to work wonders and I'll bet a sack full of shaved weasels that money changed hands to arrange this little shin dig... hence - dumb as a puddle and no - thats not confined to maoridom..

Besides - if you got a fatal curse for thieving stuff - half of NZ would be dead..

[DMNTD]

some can't see further than there nose; Finn can't see further than the counter tho...

I heard that he pimped out a wee foot stool.

[SwanTiger]

I've had one of these procedures performed on me when I was a child, unfortunately they failed and I am still cursed with my endowment of a large penis.

[007XX]

Surely you recognise the massive amount of sarcasm!
Just seemed to suit the tone of this thread.

Hey don't get me wrong...jail the fuckers,but...

No, no sorry Chris...my comment was actually directed at the photo itself and what it represents. It affected my family heavily in the 2nd World War, so I guess it's a little close to home.

I know you'd never see anything like this with any other meaning than sarcasm (and yes, it did suit the thread, I agree).

[MSTRS]

.... Aunty Helen isn't doing a bad job.

Oh yes she is...she's the consummate politician...that type never does a good job (except in staying right where they are, in case that is what you meant)

[enigma51]

New Zealand Über alle

[Mikkel]

Well, some of the PC stuff surrounding the Maori issue is utter bullshit. I say this as a foreigner in NZ!

E.g. my girlfriend is doing research at the hospital here in Chch. Usually when they're done with a blood sample they just chuck it in the sink. This is obviously not good enough for the maoris... no, no, the blood needs to be fucking blessed before they can chuck it out! :crazy:

Almost no maoris are organ donors because they state that their traditional values are opposed to it. Bullshit, traditionally they'd take the heads of their fallen comrades home and bury them! (And no, I'm not making this one up either!)

But the worst bogus bullshit I've heard about from in there was this: They were taking a project proposal through all the necessary bureaucratic institutions(e.g. ethical commitee, maori commitee, :eek:) necessary to get it approved. Their project had been approved by the maori commitee already but was then failed at the ethical commitee because their testing group didn't include any maoris!!! I mean FFS it's not like there are heaps of maori willing to participate in medical test as it is - and doing research on the impact of genetic profiles on drug usage requires that you have a fairly consistent testing group. I was just dumbfounded!

[marty]

'statue bro?'

'nah - it's me'

'aww - chur chur bro'

[boomer]

Well, some of the PC stuff surrounding the Maori issue is utter bullshit. I say this as a foreigner in NZ!

E.g. my girlfriend is doing research at the hospital here in Chch. Usually when they're done with a blood sample they just chuck it in the sink. This is obviously not good enough for the maoris... no, no, the blood needs to be fucking blessed before they can chuck it out! :crazy:

Almost no maoris are organ donors because they state that their traditional values are opposed to it. Bullshit, traditionally they'd take the heads of their fallen comrades home and bury them! (And no, I'm not making this one up either!)

But the worst bogus bullshit I've heard about from in there was this: They were taking a project proposal through all the necessary bureaucratic institutions(e.g. ethical commitee, maori commitee, :eek:) necessary to get it approved. Their project had been approved by the maori commitee already but was then failed at the ethical commitee because their testing group didn't include any maoris!!! I mean FFS it's not like there are heaps of maori willing to participate in medical test as it is - and doing research on the impact of genetic profiles on drug usage requires that you have a fairly consistent testing group. I was just dumbfounded!

Living in Christchurch i can understand you being racist.

Respect others cultures, especially those who's country you reside...you Bigot

[Mikkel]

No, no sorry Chris...my comment was actually directed at the photo itself and what it represents. It affected my family heavily in the 2nd World War, so I guess it's a little close to home.

I know you'd never see anything like this with any other meaning than sarcasm (and yes, it did suit the thread, I agree).

Yeah, the neo nazis have got no fucking clue about what they are celebrating. Right fuckwits they are. If they had seen or experienced the pain and suffering caused by WW2 - or just known anyone who had - I reckon they'd get on track pretty quickly.

The stories I heard from my grandfathers (RIP), who were in the Danish resistance movement against the german occupation, were very interesting indeed.

[Mikkel]

Living in Christchurch i can understand you being racist.

Respect others cultures, especially those who's country you reside...you Bigot

Oh, did I forgot to mention that I think the maori culture is pretty cool in and off itself. It's the whinging PC stuff that sucks. Pull your head out. Bigot.

[BarBender]

Id have no problems taking someone out on religious grounds if they looked like this...

[boomer]

Oh, did I forgot to mention that I think the maori culture is pretty cool in and off itself. It's the whinging PC stuff that sucks. Pull your head out. Bigot.

You don't know which side of the argument you want to be on do you? I 'spose you have loads of Darkies as friends too ;)

[janno]

It's a bloody shame that someone doesn't decide that those child murderers are cursed and try to vigorously remove the makutu from them . . . interesting that the family went after someone who was by all accounts a gentle and inoffensive sort.

[Str8 Jacket]

It's a bloody shame that someone doesn't decide that those child murderers are cursed and try to vigorously remove the makutu from them . . . interesting that the family went after someone who was by all accounts a gentle and inoffensive sort.

The reason she was chosen as she was believed to be "the weakest link".... As in the curse was mostly likely to effect her, or something similar. Ironic isnt it?! I feel very sorry for her children.

[Mikkel]

You don't know which side of the argument you want to be on do you? I 'spose you have loads of Darkies as friends too ;)

I usually don't take sides. It ruins my objectivity.

If by darkies you imply people with maori, polynesian or african heritage - I wouldn't say lots, but there are a couple though. I certainly would never "deselect" anyone for social intercourse on those grounds.

Racial intolerance is unfortunately a 2-way street and it's not just the white man who plays that game.

[MSTRS]

Living in Christchurch i can understand you being racist.

Respect others cultures, especially those who's country you reside...you Bigot


You don't know which side of the argument you want to be on do you? I 'spose you have loads of Darkies as friends too ;)

Que?? Just which side of the argument are you on??
Besides, what's bigotted about being against state-sanctioned mumbo-jumbo? When that very same state won't allow christian-value teachings in schools etc...

[Mikkel]

The reason she was chosen as she was believed to be "the weakest link".... As in the curse was mostly likely to effect her, or something similar. Ironic isnt it?! I feel very sorry for her children.

You could almost argue it's ritualised Darwinism then can't you? ;)

[Str8 Jacket]

You could almost argue it's ritualised Darwinism then can't you? ;)

No. I just think its all very sad. Even though I have a maori father I do not really understand it so I cannot judge.

[enigma51]

I 'spose you have loads of Darkies as friends too ;)

They can do all sort of shit for you

"Help" in the garden clean the bike and its all for cheap cheap :headbang:

[Paul in NZ]

No. I just think its all very sad. Even though I have a maori father I do not really understand it so I cannot judge.

After all - when you think about it - Christmas is pretty bloody odd and as for easter... well.....

[enigma51]

christian-value now thats a loud of bullshit for you

[Mikkel]

They can do all sort of shit for you

"Help" in the garden clean the bike and its all for cheap cheap :headbang:

That's not Darkies - that's coolies.

While all coolies are Darkies, not all Darkies are coolies. Please don't generalise!

:dodge:

;)

For the ironically and sarcastically impaired - this post is a joke.

[enigma51]

That's not Darkies - that's coolies.

While all coolies are Darkies, not all Darkies are coolies. Please don't generalise!

:dodge:

;)

For the ironically and sarcastically impaired - this post is a joke.

Of course i will they are all the same :done:

[MSTRS]

christian-value now thats a loud of bullshit for you

Perhaps in some cases it is...but it is also what this country was founded on....
Why don't you have (another) read of the 10 commandments...then see whether you wouldn't like to live that way. I would agree with removing the 'graven images' one tho

[boomer]

Que?? Just which side of the argument are you on??
Besides, what's bigotted about being against state-sanctioned mumbo-jumbo? When that very same state won't allow christian-value teachings in schools etc...

its called irony dear.

As for teaching Christian values in schools.. should they teach catholic, jewish, hindu and all the rest.

get a grip

[Mikkel]

Oh, did I forgot to mention that I think the maori culture is pretty cool in and off itself. It's the whinging PC stuff that sucks. Pull your head out. Bigot.

I do not know who red repped this post with the subtle and insightful comment "Wrong" - they seemed to not have the balls to stand by their statement.

Anyway, to let you know the error of your ways the statement can not be wrong since it represents my personal opinion. Feel free to disagree, but using absolute adjectives such as right and wrong makes no sense in this case. That is the rethoric belonging to religious zealots and other primitive subspecies.

[enigma51]

Perhaps in some cases it is...but it is also what this country was founded on....
Why don't you have (another) read of the 10 commandments...then see whether you wouldn't like to live that way. I would agree with removing the 'graven images' one tho

You can apply the same principal for communism the coran budism you name it and yes even apartheid. If you read the "documentation" they all sound perfect its the reality that fucks it up
Human nature to change things to suite them selves.

[boomer]

I do not know who red repped this post with the subtle and insightful comment "Wrong" - they seemed to not have the balls to stand by their statement.

Anyway, to let you know the error of your ways the statement can not be wrong since it represents my personal opinion. Feel free to disagree, but using absolute adjectives such as right and wrong makes no sense in this case. That is the rethoric belonging to religious zealots and other primitive subspecies.


Your opinion can be wrong can't it..?? that is unless your a woman??!!!
and when you grow up you'll get to see who left the rep ;) unfortunately not me.. i don't have such powers

[Mikkel]

As for teaching Christian values in schools.. should they teach catholic, jewish, hindu and all the rest.

Catholics are christians too...

And no, of course they shouldn't teach religious values in schools. At least not until the kids are old enough to draw their own conclusions on what they are being taught.

[MSTRS]

its called irony dear.
OH

i

As for teaching Christian values in schools.. should they teach catholic, jewish, hindu and all the rest. No differentiation reqd as the main points of each are much the same - see earlier post



get a grip What. PR2s not good enough?

[boomer]

Catholics are christians too...

And no, of course they shouldn't teach religious values in schools. At least not until the kids are old enough to draw their own conclusions on what they are being taught.

Stop fookin quoting me, your filling up my inbox ya Muppet

[Str8 Jacket]

Your opinion can be wrong can't it..?? that is unless your a woman??!!!


Oi! Im constantly wrong!!!!!!

[Mikkel]

Stop fookin quoting me, your filling up my inbox ya Muppet

Oh, sorry I couldn't know you had that feature enabled :p

[boomer]

Oh, sorry I couldn't know you had that feature enabled :p

You're going on my ignore list.

[MSTRS]

You can apply the same principal for communism the coran budism you name it and yes even apartheid. If you read the "documentation" they all sound perfect its the reality that fucks it up
Human nature to change things to suite them selves.

Sadly, you are right(ish). But our current PC climate is still mor(t)ally wrong.

[Grahameeboy]

Perhaps in some cases it is...but it is also what this country was founded on....
Why don't you have (another) read of the 10 commandments...then see whether you wouldn't like to live that way. I would agree with removing the 'graven images' one tho

There are actually 11, originally 631.

[Grahameeboy]

You're going on my ignore list.

Some guys get all the luck

[MSTRS]

Catholics are christians too...

And no, of course they shouldn't teach religious values in schools. At least not until the kids are old enough to draw their own conclusions on what they are being taught.

Not the same thing

[boomer]

There are actually 11, originally 631.

There's as many as you want there to be bro.. it's fictional; and everyone adds/detracts for there own benefit.

Obvioulsy seems that you've been a very bad lad and ended up with 621 more than your common garden variety sandal wearer ;)

[MSTRS]

There are actually 11, originally 631.

Fuck...so the 'heavenly' chisel had to do a fair bit of editting before the final release??

[enigma51]

Fuck...so the 'heavenly' chisel had to do a fair bit of editting before the final release??

I have a heavenly chisel in my pants :Punk:

[Mikkel]

Not the same thing

I don't get what you mean by that.

Christianity (the practicioners (sp?) of which are referred to as Christians) has two many schools of thought: protestantism and catholicism. (And then there are all the sub divisions of each of those into anglicans, puritans, WTFevercans, etc.)

[Grahameeboy]

Fuck...so the 'heavenly' chisel had to do a fair bit of editting before the final release??

Well it was the Jews who decided on 631, just shows how fair us Christians are??

[Mikkel]

You're going on my ignore list.

You just write that to make more people quote you...

Dunno if you get kudos here for the number of times you've been quoted, like with scientific papers.

[Grahameeboy]

There's as many as you want there to be bro.. it's fictional; and everyone adds/detracts for there own benefit.

Obvioulsy seems that you've been a very bad lad and ended up with 621 more than your common garden variety sandal wearer ;)

It is not fictional to me Boomerrang.....the 11 basically embrace the 631......as mentioned to MSTRS, the Jews have 631 and I am not a Jew.........

[enigma51]

schools of thought

Yeah all thinking the same thing


Young boys

Makes me think of the South Park episode where the priest is complaining to all the other priest about the parents not trusting him with there boys and the head priest saying they should bribe the boys better

[enigma51]

Well it was the Jews who decided on 631, just shows how fair us Christians are??

Cant trust the jews :clap:

[Grahameeboy]

Cant trust the jews :clap:

No not true, just they go back before Christianity so more old Testament hat stuff

[MSTRS]

I don't get what you mean by that.



I mean that to espouse christian values does not mean that one has to be religious.
Eg...I do not like church and all it's trappings, the jury is out on the existence of 'God', I think the so-called miracles in that Book are merely the ancient's way of explaining what they didn't understand, but I do try to follow the intent of the 10

[enigma51]

the jury is out on the existence of 'God',

What your on about it is I :buggerd:

[007XX]

I mean that to espouse christian values does not mean that one has to be religious.
Eg...I do not like church and all it's trappings, the jury is out on the existence of 'God', I think the so-called miracles in that Book are merely the ancient's way of explaining what they didn't understand, but I do try to follow the intent of the 10

+1. very well said.

[Mikkel]

I mean that to espouse christian values does not mean that one has to be religious.
Eg...I do not like church and all it's trappings, the jury is out on the existence of 'God', I think the so-called miracles in that Book are merely the ancient's way of explaining what they didn't understand, but I do try to follow the intent of the 10

Oh, I see what you mean now.

I disagree, the 10 commandments should be covered by standard ethics. And while they are good values, calling them christian values implies that there's a religious aspect.

You can follow the 10 commandments for any number of reasons, let me give a few:
1. You'll burn in hell if you don't! (Catholicism)
2. God will think you're naughty, but if you say "sorry" it's all good cause he loves ya. (Protestantism)
3. You just feel like behaving in that way. (Egoism)
4. You feel that it's a good and proper way to behave around your neighbours. (ethics)
5. It brings you closer to spiritual enlightenment. (Buddism - while their rules are not the same, this is the train of thought)

[enigma51]

dont forget the science thingy

[Mikkel]

dont forget the science thingy

Hmmm, that's a bit harder. The closest thing I can get to (semi-hard) science as a base for ethics gotta be economics. And even then it's a bit far fetched.
Guess you could throw in all sorts of psycho babble (the human mind works best when given tangible boundaries) and neuro gibberish (humans are instinctively social animals) but that's not really inside my field...

[MSTRS]

I disagree, the 10 commandments should be covered by standard ethics. And while they are good values, calling them christian values implies that there's a religious aspect.



Call them anything you like...the title does not legitimise the content. Nor should the content imply a need to go to church or believe in the mumbo-jumbo of religion.
Which should bring us back to the reason for this thread...specifically, the death of someone as a result of weird beliefs, which the state encourages and foists upon us, as long as it is 'maori' stuff....

[MSTRS]

Enigma means 'scientology'. A weird set of beliefs started by the science-fiction writer L. Ron Hubbard.

[Mikkel]

Enigma means 'scientology'. A weird set of beliefs started by the science-fiction writer L. Ron Hubbard.

Well, then he should have said scientology - not the science thingy ;)

I do however think that psycho babble and economics will provide a good understanding of the workings of that society.


But I agree, let's get this thing back on topic... ====> ON TOPIC.

[enigma51]

Enigma means 'scientology'. A weird set of beliefs started by the science-fiction writer L. Ron Hubbard.

Only weird for you and me there are some people who think its the b all and end all

Much the same like the maori thing at the begining of this discusion.

see what i mean po ta to
pa ta to

[snot]

We used to get coons all the time on our front porch, momma'd just shoo 'em away with a broom..

[Finn]

You're all taking my very serious thread off topic. I vill not tolerate zit any lonker. You haz been varned.

Fuck, mention the word "culture" or "Maori" around here and look what happens. It all went down hill when Billy T James died.

[u4ea]

Que?? Just which side of the argument are you on??
Besides, what's bigotted about being against state-sanctioned mumbo-jumbo? When that very same state won't allow christian-value teachings in schools etc...

I heard that now Sunday school will be banned as 3 or more kids being taught spirituality as christians is educating and they need a trained teacher ffs...


Call them anything you like...the title does not legitimise the content. Nor should the content imply a need to go to church or believe in the mumbo-jumbo of religion.
Which should bring us back to the reason for this thread...specifically, the death of someone as a result of weird beliefs, which the state encourages and foists upon us, as long as it is 'maori' stuff....

I see that as it is a maori practice it will be swept under the carpet and totally excusable..spoze the rest will drown their sorrows under a keg tap...

[DMNTD]

..spoze the rest will drown their sorrows under a keg tap...

Yeah mate...obviously. I mean they are second rate citizens eh? :bash:

[SwanTiger]

The news item which this thread is based on has no substance, in my opinion it is a rendering of a journalists pathetic attempt at sensationalism.

The reality is that a young woman died under suspecious circumstances which appear to be related to a religious ceremony. The ethnicity of the deceased and those allegedly involved in the religious ceremony is irrelevant.

Any attempt by someone associated with the event to excuse the cause of death using cultural or religious reasons is only exhibiting their guilt for the responsibility of the young womans death.

However, it makes for a great news article that stimulates a majority of the populations existing frustrations. The consequence is that a group of innocent people sharing the same enthicity of those associated to the event suffer the unfair and unjust effects of racism.

[Finn]

The consequence is that a group of innocent people sharing the same enthicity of those associated to the event suffer the unfair and unjust effects of racism.

Yeah, Boomer called be a Whitey yet it was his forefathers that caused all the problems on this Island in the first place. I'm the victim here.

[boomer]

Yeah, Boomer called be a Whitey yet it was his forefathers that caused all the problems on this Island in the first place. I'm the victim here.

I always knew you needed councilling. Admission is the first stage... keep going mate, you're nearly there.

[spudchucka]

who gives a shit as long as they are only killing each other off

The dead girl probably would have, "given a shit".

[Mikkel]

Yeah, Boomer called be a Whitey yet it was his forefathers that caused all the problems on this Island in the first place. I'm the victim here.

Aww Finn, here's a hug. :hug:

Well, what I find most incredible about the whole maori thing is that all that is required to be considered maori is just that you "feel" that you are maori.

So anyone, you included Finn, could be a maori if you decided to feel maori. And you already said you're a victim - half way there I guess. :lol:

-And I just read your "My Maori Thread" and found it very valid indeed.

[Finn]

I always knew you needed councilling. Admission is the first stage...

Didn't work for Tony Soprano so I don't stand a chance.

[boomer]

Didn't work for Tony Soprano so I don't stand a chance.

There's a difference, albeit a subtle one. He's a hard coont... where as you're just a coont.
it'll work for you, they'll probably give you a 2 for 1 deal so you can get teh little person syndrome sorted whilst ya at it.

[mynameis]

Hey boomer, why are you selling the blik king of kings mate? You conquered the thou mate? What next?

[boomer]

Hey boomer, why are you selling the blik king of kings mate? You conquered the thou mate? What next?

i'm not sellin it mate; not right now anyhows..


As for conquering her, that won't be this lifetime, however i have a craving to do this race thing or maybe just get serious about tracks... that and wondering about a V-Twin ... i still hear that RSVR callin me.

who knows, worse thing is i have to start work next week :blink:

[SPman]

There are actually 11, originally 631.
I prefer George Carlins reduction to 1!

[SPman]

The news item which this thread is based on has no substance, in my opinion it is a rendering of a journalists pathetic attempt at sensationalism.

The reality is that a young woman died under suspecious circumstances which appear to be related to a religious ceremony. The ethnicity of the deceased and those allegedly involved in the religious ceremony is irrelevant.

Any attempt by someone associated with the event to excuse the cause of death using cultural or religious reasons is only exhibiting their guilt for the responsibility of the young womans death.

However, it makes for a great news article that stimulates a majority of the populations existing frustrations. The consequence is that a group of innocent people sharing the same enthicity of those associated to the event suffer the unfair and unjust effects of racism.
Stop trying to start a factual reasoned argument!
You should know by now that the life blood of KB is shit slinging, blame allocation, mayhem, viscious retribution and overt racism!
Gee Swanny - haven't you learned anything!.

[candor]

This speaks of the need for a stronger science curriculum. And to strengthen individual assertiveness - 40 stood by - Kaumatuas aren't always right, some are craaaaazy!

If the christians can christen kids safely (without drownings) I don't see why some basics on water safety can't help here., for those who want to indulge in hoodoo voodoo.

[jtzzr]

I see that as it is a maori practice it will be swept under the carpet and totally exusable..spoze the rest will drown their sorrows under a keg tap...[/QUOTE]

I don`t drown my sorrows I saturate them :weep::beer:and what does exusable mean?

[Edbear]

...and what does exusable mean?



It's the excuse you use when you don't have an excuse. Used to be known as the "Clayton's excuse"...;)

[Swoop]

Makutu can be gotten rid of just as easily as a Taniwha!
Cash only, no personal cheques!

Catholics are christians too...

At least not until the kids are old enough to draw their own conclusions on what they are being taught.
Those poor alterboys. Spit or swallow?

Fuck...so the 'heavenly' chisel had to do a fair bit of editting before the final release??
"Bloody moderators!" even back then??

[Sanx]

Enigma means 'scientology'. A weird set of beliefs started by the science-fiction writer L. Ron Hubbard.

Yep. But you forgot to mention he started Scientology in order to win a bar bet. Some friend wagered him $1000 he couldn't start a new religion and have 1000 adherents inside twelve months. He won. However, at least he was honest about the made-up origins of his religion, unlike every other religion out there.


As for teaching Christian values in schools.. should they teach catholic, jewish, hindu and all the rest.

Not Jewish. Wouldn't trust that lot...
(waits for the inevitable shitstorm)


I heard that now Sunday school will be banned as 3 or more kids being taught spirituality as christians is educating and they need a trained teacher ffs...

Yep - like Graham Capill...

Religious teaching of anyone under the age of 18 should be banned. Period. No sunday school. No chedar. No madrassas. No kids attending church, synagogue, mosque, temples or other places of worship. Nothing. If people under the age of 18 are deemed too immature to drink alcohol and vote, they should be deemed too immature to undergo religious brainwashing, with all the hatred and divisiveness it includes. Certainly no child is able to fully understand the concepts of religion, deism and all that it includes.

[Phil W]

Hey Mum, those right wing fascist kids are back. Can you come and wipe their noses for em. They keep walking round in circles and falling over.
:doh:

[mynameis]

i'm not sellin it mate; not right now anyhows..


As for conquering her, that won't be this lifetime, however i have a craving to do this race thing or maybe just get serious about tracks... that and wondering about a V-Twin ... i still hear that RSVR callin me.

who knows, worse thing is i have to start work next week :blink:

Go team boomer !!

[The Pastor]

THATS LIKE THOUSANDS OF YEARS AGO!


I had a bad spirt once, never bought it again, mr walker is much better :D

[Beemer]

And the coroner doing the inquest on Mrs Fullolollies (that's what it sounds like anyway) is being asked to stand down because he knows someone who works for a power company or something like that. Shit, I suppose we're all to blame for her death because we USE power. Get real!

[SwanTiger]

Didn't work for Tony Soprano so I don't stand a chance.

I think you need to try an alternative such as sex therapy, realise those inner demons and face your frustrations of rejection and redicule.

Having a small penis is not the be all and end all.

[Finn]

Having a small penis is not the be all and end all.

It's good, especially to get into all those tight places.

[SwanTiger]

It's good, especially to get into all those tight places.

Are you professing an appreciation for man on man anal?

[Finn]

Are you professing an appreciation for man on man anal?

No and stop PM'ing me asking for my phone number. Pervert.