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jimbo600
25th October 2004, 19:29
Had a ball today riding around with some good dudes from Welly. Stopped at the usual Paekakariki Hill summit for a chinwag. While we were there we saw a highway patrol car go up the hill. Pretty unusual to see one of them on the hill. Five minutes later we see the same car come flying down the hill towards Paekakariki all lit up blue and red. The old geekotec V6 had a bit of understeer on the first corner and nearly collected a car coming the other way, the HP idiot then started to drive on the WRONG side of the road for about 100 meters. If there was a bike coming the other way he would have parked right between the cops headlights. A bit further down HP almost hit two ther cars coming up the hill. This was a blatant display of arrogant insane driving. No emergency warrants behaviour that could incur a worse emergency. I called *555 and called it in. The guy is getting written up for it.
All five of us witnessed this incident.
Oh yeah on the way home I saw what the emergency was about. You guessed it, someone was speeding.
Holy hell those traffic guys need to be reigned in.
Two Smoker
25th October 2004, 19:38
What a fuck tard... I reakon they definately need to be reeled in, another thing is they dont have driver training so probably can't handle the car too fucking well either....
Keep us updated....
jimbo600
25th October 2004, 19:39
What a fuck tard... I reakon they definately need to be reeled in, another thing is they dont have driver training so probably can't handle the car too fucking well either....
Keep us updated....
I tell ya mate it was farkin scary to watch.
scumdog
25th October 2004, 19:41
What a fuck tard... I reakon they definately need to be reeled in, another thing is they dont have driver training so probably can't handle the car too fucking well either....
Keep us updated....
What he said :argh:
Quasievil
25th October 2004, 19:44
Make a complaint Jimbo ring the HP tommorrow, they will follow it up, me mate is a HP he got hauled over for being on the wrong side of the road on State 1, no lights on, a dairy tankr driver complained and he got in the poo, so go for it mate
jimbo600
25th October 2004, 19:47
Make a complaint Jimbo ring the HP tommorrow, they will follow it up, me mate is a HP he got hauled over for being on the wrong side of the road on State 1, no lights on, a dairy tankr driver complained and he got in the poo, so go for it mate
The *555 dispatcher is sending out some complaint forms. I will also pop into the local station to see that it gets followed through.
I'll keep things updated on this thread.
Quasievil
25th October 2004, 20:06
The *555 dispatcher is sending out some complaint forms. I will also pop into the local station to see that it gets followed through.
I'll keep things updated on this thread.
Yeah man get right up them, fuck mate if it was you or me we wouldnt we have a l icense by now, so screw them go hard and win one for us !!:niceone:
Quasievil
25th October 2004, 20:08
Just make sure you are clear on the times ,directions, location etc ,as well as witnesses and the details of what happened, Im sure you are aware of this though.
jimbo600
25th October 2004, 20:14
Just make sure you are clear on the times ,directions, location etc ,as well as witnesses and the details of what happened, Im sure you are aware of this though.
Not really mate. I'm on drugs most of the time and all that alcohol plays havoc with my memory.
marty
25th October 2004, 20:15
it's a bit strange to be 'sent out' forms - this is a complaint about police action - it should be done under police complaints proceedures, and to be fobbed off by a call taker that they will send you out a roadwatch form is a bit rich. i suggest you go into your local station and see your complaint be taken. i was driving a bit quickly on the 309 road one year, and nearly swiped a ute coming the other way - i was fully crossed up. by the time i got to thames the s/sgt was waiting for me......
jimbo600
25th October 2004, 20:17
it's a bit strange to be 'sent out' forms - this is a complaint about police action - it should be done under police complaints proceedures, and to be fobbed off by a call taker that they will send you out a roadwatch form is a bit rich. i suggest you go into your local station and see your complaint be taken. i was driving a bit quickly on the 309 road one year, and nearly swiped a ute coming the other way - i was fully crossed up. by the time i got to thames the s/sgt was waiting for me......
Cheers Marty.
I'll go for the station option then.
Morepower
25th October 2004, 20:18
What a fuck tard... I reakon they definately need to be reeled in, another thing is they dont have driver training so probably can't handle the car too fucking well either....
Keep us updated....
Tha Majority of Cops are good guys and even some of the Highway Patrol guys.Some of the shit they dish out is driven buy the LTSA and top cops who are more interested in statistics and making themselves look good than effective policing , But it really pisses me off that there are a few arrogant retards that have got in to the force who think that blue and red lights are are licence to put everyone else at risk just to catch a guy who probably drifted up to 112 down a hill. aaahhgggg :calm: :beer:
Kwaka-Kid
25th October 2004, 20:22
they dont have driver training so probably can't handle the car too fucking well either....
yeep! they need it eh, the bikes have that bike training, to ride the new beemers (yucky) there was a 3 day course of riding over the rimutakas/some random areas down there i think.
Dunno how in-depth it was or anything but at least its a bit of a start possibly.
jimbo600
25th October 2004, 20:25
Tha Majority of Cops are good guys and even some of the Highway Patrol guys.Some of the shit they dish out is driven buy the LTSA and top cops who are more interested in statistics and making themselves look good than effective policing , But it really pisses me off that there are a few arrogant retards that have got in to the force who think that blue and red lights are are licence to put everyone else at risk just to catch a guy who probably drifted up to 112 down a hill. aaahhgggg :calm: :beer:
I feel for the general duties and the CIB guys. They must cop a fair old bit of shit on account of a few other wankers acting like pricks.
jimbo600
25th October 2004, 20:26
yeep! they need it eh, the bikes have that bike training, to ride the new beemers (yucky) there was a 3 day course of riding over the rimutakas/some random areas down there i think.
Dunno how in-depth it was or anything but at least its a bit of a start possibly.
Wonder if there was a wheelie and stoppie session?
Morepower
25th October 2004, 20:34
I feel for the general duties and the CIB guys. They must cop a fair old bit of shit on account of a few other wankers acting like pricks.
You are right, know a couple of Police not HP cops and you can see the being tared with the same brush thing gets to them. Way better to have Traffic separate like the old days.
Two Smoker
25th October 2004, 20:34
yeep! they need it eh, the bikes have that bike training, to ride the new beemers (yucky) there was a 3 day course of riding over the rimutakas/some random areas down there i think.
Dunno how in-depth it was or anything but at least its a bit of a start possibly.
Yeah they do some training (as you would know) for driving, a few days at a race track (in other words fuck all)
Yep there are some good guys out there, and the majority of them are good guys, but you do get the odd wanker.....
But that kind of driving it just completely unnecessary....
And who was it that we saw doing highish to high speeds on the waikato ride :whistle:
Kwaka-Kid
25th October 2004, 20:45
Yeah 6chris6!
whats all that about, i saw your 600 mate, you oughta take it easy. And you been eating all the pies 6chris? you was certainly looking a touch large.
Warren
25th October 2004, 21:18
I wonder if the police car you saw was related to the one parked upside down in the middle of the road in the news?
marty
26th October 2004, 09:29
probably as related to each other as you are to billy connolly
marty
26th October 2004, 09:31
You are right, know a couple of Police not HP cops and you can see the being tared with the same brush thing gets to them. Way better to have Traffic separate like the old days.
and you want cops to exersize discretion? were you riding and driving around when the MOT was separate from the police?
Blakamin
26th October 2004, 09:41
Oh yeah on the way home I saw what the emergency was about. You guessed it, someone was speeding.
Holy hell those traffic guys need to be reigned in.
Yeah... someone probably *555 the speeder!
spudchucka
26th October 2004, 10:43
What a fuck tard... I reakon they definately need to be reeled in, another thing is they dont have driver training so probably can't handle the car too fucking well either....
Keep us updated....
They do have driver training but it is very limited. There is a new training package being delivered at the moment which includes driver performance assessments.
spudchucka
26th October 2004, 10:48
But it really pisses me off that there are a few arrogant retards that have got in to the force who think that blue and red lights are are licence to put everyone else at risk just to catch a guy who probably drifted up to 112 down a hill. aaahhgggg :calm: :beer:
It pisses a lot of cops off too.
NodMan
26th October 2004, 12:37
Yeah 6chris6!
whats all that about, i saw your 600 mate, you oughta take it easy. And you been eating all the pies 6chris? you was certainly looking a touch large.
you'll keep boyo...so just who was that masked man in your leathers at Puke the other week...and yep its true beeemers do wheelie and stoppie...shit who said that??..hope no ones got the photos
Zapf
26th October 2004, 13:06
Tha Majority of Cops are good guys and even some of the Highway Patrol guys.Some of the shit they dish out is driven buy the LTSA and top cops who are more interested in statistics and making themselves look good than effective policing , But it really pisses me off that there are a few arrogant retards that have got in to the force who think that blue and red lights are are licence to put everyone else at risk just to catch a guy who probably drifted up to 112 down a hill. aaahhgggg :calm: :beer:
Humm... doing 112km down the hill, and you start thinking about what speed they need to do to catch them...? how about 140+? and did they not say speed kills? so by that logic the cop is more guilty than the person they are trying to catch... :bash:
Quasievil
26th October 2004, 13:15
Humm... doing 112km down the hill, and you start thinking about what speed they need to do to catch them...? how about 140+? and did they not say speed kills? so by that logic the cop is more guilty than the person they are trying to catch... :bash:
exactly, the only time I have done 200km/h on a public road was in a HP car in pursuit of a VTR1000 doing 74km/h in a 50 zone bloody ridiculous really I thought, and that was the last time out with the boys in blue for me, I think they drive wrecklessly quite often just to get a minor traffic infringement notice written up
enigma51
26th October 2004, 13:21
Bit of the topic
Heard this story yesterday of this traffice cop down wellington that either pulled over someone or was inspecting a brake down. From what I heard its close to some tunnel or bridge (Have not been to Wellington yet) Stop his new Beemer got of walked over whille giving a glance to his new beamer. Grin on the face feeling like he is the man. So around the corner comes a Asian Driver hits a puddle and goes straight into the poor guys bike. Hows that for fucked up.
vifferman
26th October 2004, 13:30
exactly, the only time I have done 200km/h on a public road was in a HP car in pursuit of a VTR1000 doing 74km/h in a 50 zone bloody ridiculous really I thought, and that was the last time out with the boys in blue for me, I think they drive wrecklessly quite often just to get a minor traffic infringement notice written upHmmmm.... that's a thought. Wonder how the cop who ticketed me had to drive to catch up, given that: (a) he was parked in a lay-by when I went by, (b) I don't think I went below the speed limit between when he pinged me and when he pulled me up, and (c) there would've been a lot of traffic between us, as it was a very busy road.
I can honestly say that I was riding very carefully and safely, and speeding when overtaking (in a passing lane) was the only law-breaking I did.
Wonder who caused more of a potential hazard to other road users? No-one had to get out of my way....
I'm not trying to justify breaking the law, and I didn't actually see the police car until he was behind me with the siren on, so I can't comment on his driving, but I'd imagine there are times when in order to serve a ticket, police actually are actually more of a danger than the "killer" speeds of miscreants like myself.... :blink:
When the 'bottom line' of traffic laws is safety, this makes you think, dunnit?
Motoracer
26th October 2004, 13:36
A while back (about 1.5 or 2 years ago), I was doing the kopu to Whanga turnoff road on a nice day. I was going around a blind right hander going fairly quick. A HP car came flying around and overshot the corner, comming halfway into my lane. Then during her desperate atempt to keep the car in her lane, she slid the back wheels and started going sideways. Just when I thought I was going to sideswipe the HP car even when I went to the far edge of my lane, she got it back under control and then managed to go back into her own lane. It wasn't till a few corners later that I realised what had just happened there (or what could have happened).
At the end of the day, I was happy to not get a ticket for speeding + not having the HP car run me off the road.
sAsLEX
26th October 2004, 16:03
Is it possible to citizen arrest cops when they endanger our lives in such reckless manner as that happened to MR??
I am sure he could of caught up after turning around.
Quasievil
26th October 2004, 16:55
Is it possible to citizen arrest cops when they endanger our lives in such reckless manner as that happened to MR??
I am sure he could of caught up after turning around.
Shall we try it we could borrow his cuffs as well and even the car ??:gob: I personally dont know how I would react if my life was put on the line by a cop wrecklessly driving to catch a silly traffic offense, It probably would involve me giving the cop a big peice of my mind irrespective of what he may be doing with a trivial ticket writing proccess.
igor
26th October 2004, 18:53
Is it possible to citizen arrest cops when they endanger our lives in such reckless manner as that happened to MR??
I am sure he could of caught up after turning around.
haha, call me when ya gunna give this a go. Should be interesting to watch ya get a face full of o/c spray.
ya could sell tickets
Two Smoker
26th October 2004, 18:58
Just remember guys that the police when in pursuit can legally do 30kmh over the speed limit with flashing lights on, and sirens where appropriate.....
The only time they can break that limit is when there is lives in danger (for general duties) OR when the vehicle being pursued is endangering lives (ie they have to be forced off the road....) and even then they have to be in contact with comms at all times giving the speed of their vehicle, estimated speed of the other vehicle, traffic conditions, road conditions, whether the vehicle being chased is erratic or not etc.... Then the pursuit can be called off or not by comms (have been in a few chases, ofcourse not being the chased :whistle: :msn-wink: and the adrenalin really does get flowing....)
Once again it is the odd loose cannon/idiot that is giving them a bad name.....
jrandom
26th October 2004, 19:00
... dont know how I would react if my life was put on the line by a cop wrecklessly driving
Well, if it was wreckless, you'd be fine, wouldn't you.
spudchucka
26th October 2004, 19:33
Hmmmm.... that's a thought. Wonder how the cop who ticketed me had to drive to catch up, given that: (a) he was parked in a lay-by when I went by, (b) I don't think I went below the speed limit between when he pinged me and when he pulled me up, and (c) there would've been a lot of traffic between us, as it was a very busy road.
I can honestly say that I was riding very carefully and safely, and speeding when overtaking (in a passing lane) was the only law-breaking I did.
Wonder who caused more of a potential hazard to other road users? No-one had to get out of my way....
I'm not trying to justify breaking the law, and I didn't actually see the police car until he was behind me with the siren on, so I can't comment on his driving, but I'd imagine there are times when in order to serve a ticket, police actually are actually more of a danger than the "killer" speeds of miscreants like myself.... :blink:
When the 'bottom line' of traffic laws is safety, this makes you think, dunnit?
Those are all fair comments. The only thing I want to say is that if driving behaviour requires police attention then speeding by the cop is inevitable until they fit tractor beams into Holdens. Also, every driver is responsible for their own behaviour, a cop driving like a maniac is no different to any other maniac, except he will draw more attention to himself.
spudchucka
26th October 2004, 19:40
Just remember guys that the police when in pursuit can legally do 30kmh over the speed limit with flashing lights on, and sirens where appropriate.....
The only time they can break that limit is when there is lives in danger (for general duties) OR when the vehicle being pursued is endangering lives (ie they have to be forced off the road....) and even then they have to be in contact with comms at all times giving the speed of their vehicle, estimated speed of the other vehicle, traffic conditions, road conditions, whether the vehicle being chased is erratic or not etc.... Then the pursuit can be called off or not by comms (have been in a few chases, ofcourse not being the chased :whistle: :msn-wink: and the adrenalin really does get flowing....)
Once again it is the odd loose cannon/idiot that is giving them a bad name.....
After a few pursuits the adrenaline doesn't flow like it did for your first one. In a two up car the passenger does the radio commentary, leaving the driver to concentrate on their job. If you are on your own it can be pretty tricky to manage everything.
jimbo600
26th October 2004, 19:59
Went in to the local station today to follow up the complaint only it was 4:30 in the arvo and the station was closed for the day. Might have to take a day off and rock up in office hours.
Lou Girardin
26th October 2004, 20:17
[QUOTE=spudchucka]After a few pursuits the adrenaline doesn't flow like it did for your first one. QUOTE]
Yeah right! The buzz is just as strong years later.
Blakamin
26th October 2004, 20:38
Went in to the local station today to follow up the complaint only it was 4:30 in the arvo and the station was closed for the day. Might have to take a day off and rock up in office hours.
any excuse for a day off???
They have some crap operating hours at paraparaumu....
jimbo600
26th October 2004, 20:50
any excuse for a day off???
They have some crap operating hours at paraparaumu....
What a shame, I'll have to have the whole day off, make a police complaint, and then spend the rest of the day hooning around.
Blakamin
26th October 2004, 20:52
What a shame, I'll have to have the whole day off, make a police complaint, and then spend the rest of the day hooning around.
come down hinemoa st... might join you!
jimbo600
26th October 2004, 20:56
come down hinemoa st... might join you!
At this stage it's looking like Friday, but the wx looks a bit crapburger. I'll let you know if I take the day off.
Blakamin
26th October 2004, 20:58
At this stage it's looking like Friday, but the wx looks a bit crapburger. I'll let you know if I take the day off.
sweet! :niceone:
spudchucka
27th October 2004, 10:51
[QUOTE=spudchucka]After a few pursuits the adrenaline doesn't flow like it did for your first one. QUOTE]
Yeah right! The buzz is just as strong years later.
Speak for your self.
In my experience its only the newbies that get really wound up on adrenaline. Yes, there is a high associated with making a catch but its the catch that gives you the high, not the chase.
Gixxer 4 ever
27th October 2004, 11:56
Tha Majority of Cops are good guys and even some of the Highway Patrol guys.Some of the shit they dish out is driven buy the LTSA and top cops who are more interested in statistics and making themselves look good than effective policing , But it really pisses me off that there are a few arrogant retards that have got in to the force who think that blue and red lights are are licence to put everyone else at risk just to catch a guy who probably drifted up to 112 down a hill. aaahhgggg :calm: :beer: :mega: What he said
Stinger
27th October 2004, 13:01
Hmmmm.... that's a thought. Wonder how the cop who ticketed me had to drive to catch up, given that: (a) he was parked in a lay-by when I went by, (b) I don't think I went below the speed limit between when he pinged me and when he pulled me up, and (c) there would've been a lot of traffic between us, as it was a very busy road.
I can honestly say that I was riding very carefully and safely, and speeding when overtaking (in a passing lane) was the only law-breaking I did.
Wonder who caused more of a potential hazard to other road users? No-one had to get out of my way....
I'm not trying to justify breaking the law, and I didn't actually see the police car until he was behind me with the siren on, so I can't comment on his driving, but I'd imagine there are times when in order to serve a ticket, police actually are actually more of a danger than the "killer" speeds of miscreants like myself.... :blink:
When the 'bottom line' of traffic laws is safety, this makes you think, dunnit?
The only thing about that, is that I think the idea of catching you isn't to stop you from speeding this time... but rather to discourage you from doing it in the future (Hence the demerits, and cash penalties).
vifferman
27th October 2004, 13:29
The only thing about that, is that I think the idea of catching you isn't to stop you from speeding this time... but rather to discourage you from doing it in the future (Hence the demerits, and cash penalties).You think?
I thought somehow the awards :first: were to enhance my status amongst the Biker Community? :headbang: :Punk:
Rock on! I'm one Big, Bad, PreparedToKill MoFo!! :stoogie:
marty
27th October 2004, 14:16
whatever lou. SOME of us grow up, and use experience, sly, cunning, radios, patience etc, instead of blindly screaming down SH1. sounds like you are still pining for the RUSH?????????
marty
27th October 2004, 14:33
Just remember guys that the police when in pursuit can legally do 30kmh over the speed limit with flashing lights on, and sirens where appropriate.....
The only time they can break that limit is when there is lives in danger (for general duties) OR when the vehicle being pursued is endangering lives (ie they have to be forced off the road....) and even then they have to be in contact with comms at all times giving the speed of their vehicle, estimated speed of the other vehicle, traffic conditions, road conditions, whether the vehicle being chased is erratic or not etc.... Then the pursuit can be called off or not by comms (have been in a few chases, ofcourse not being the chased :whistle: :msn-wink: and the adrenalin really does get flowing....)
Once again it is the odd loose cannon/idiot that is giving them a bad name.....
that's nearly right - the 30km/h limit is a guideline only. there is no limit set in legislation, and even when responding, police are still bound by the careless/dangerous/excessive speed regulations. there are innumerable instances of cops being charged for dangerous/excessive speed, for driving crazy on the way to a job. comms can (and does) call off the pursuit, but only if the car is in a pursuit - they won't say for someone to call off driving fast to a job. the responsibility is still with the cop.
scumdog
27th October 2004, 15:11
[QUOTE=spudchucka]After a few pursuits the adrenaline doesn't flow like it did for your first one. QUOTE]
Yeah right! The buzz is just as strong years later.
How many years back was your last 'buzz' and how old were you Lou?
Not for this boy, my thoughts are "I'll give it a go but if he gets away/chase called off then so what, I still get paid, ho-hum, it's not like I have anything to lose" :niceone:
BTW the next pursuit I have to give up on or lose the car I'm after will be the first, - and I'm a pretty cautious (but crafty) driver, at 50+yrs you get that way! :whistle:
Two Smoker
27th October 2004, 17:02
that's nearly right - the 30km/h limit is a guideline only. there is no limit set in legislation, and even when responding, police are still bound by the careless/dangerous/excessive speed regulations. there are innumerable instances of cops being charged for dangerous/excessive speed, for driving crazy on the way to a job. comms can (and does) call off the pursuit, but only if the car is in a pursuit - they won't say for someone to call off driving fast to a job. the responsibility is still with the cop.
Cheers for clearing that up Marty :niceone:
Kickaha
27th October 2004, 18:18
Also, every driver is responsible for their own behaviour, a cop driving like a maniac is no different to any other maniac, except he will draw more attention to himself.
Ture and in the eyes of the public they have to be seen to be setting the example that others should follow.
Makes me wonder if it was just Joe Public that had been doing this if there would have been such a follow up and complaint laid?
jimbo600
27th October 2004, 19:55
Ture and in the eyes of the public they have to be seen to be setting the example that others should follow.
Makes me wonder if it was just Joe Public that had been doing this if there would have been such a follow up and complaint laid?
If I saw any wanker driving on the wrong side of the road I would have called it in. I've had too many calls on the bike not to. Just around the corner from Paekak hill is the "killer highway", how many front on smashes have happened there resulting in fatals.
Skyryder
27th October 2004, 20:13
I used to write in 'dangerouse' but stopped after the police got the notices mixed up. I got the letter that the dangerouse driver should have got with his name on and he got mine with "my' name on.
I caused a ruckus up in Wellington about this and was asured that it would not happen again. Sorry guys the damage was done and the only person who can assure that this was not going to happen again was me.
Never written again. Pot some retard and they get to know who you are and all sorts of problems can arrive in your life.
I use my cell phone now and just call in a drunk driver. Works.
Skyryder
spudchucka
27th October 2004, 21:56
Ture and in the eyes of the public they have to be seen to be setting the example that others should follow.
Makes me wonder if it was just Joe Public that had been doing this if there would have been such a follow up and complaint laid?
Yes, they should set an example for other motorists. Fast driving is required from time to time but if you are driving so fast that you can't keep within your own lane then you are stepping over the line of whats reasonable.
Sometimes frustration creeps in when you are trying to balance urgent response with safe driving, things like drivers that won't pull over for lights and sirens can lead to poor decisions being made. Most cops will have a scary moment in a patrol car at some stage in their careers. Hopefully its never anything worse than a near miss and they learn very quickly that its not worth it when things turn pear shaped.
By the way I had a pursuit a few nights ago, it was about 0130 hours, country road, nil traffic, fine weather, straight roads, it lasted about 5 minutes, got to speeds of 170 and comms ordered it be abandoned.
Da Bird
27th October 2004, 22:05
that's nearly right - the 30km/h limit is a guideline only. there is no limit set in legislation, and even when responding, police are still bound by the careless/dangerous/excessive speed regulations. there are innumerable instances of cops being charged for dangerous/excessive speed, for driving crazy on the way to a job. comms can (and does) call off the pursuit, but only if the car is in a pursuit - they won't say for someone to call off driving fast to a job. the responsibility is still with the cop.
Yes, the 30km/hr over the limit is a guideline and yes, it is not set in legislation. Just wanted to clarify that the 30km/hr over the speed limit only applies to urgent duty driving, i.e going to a Priority 1 job. It does not apply to pursuits where the speed is obviously determined to a large extent by the fleeing vehicle. However, as Marty has pointed out, the cops are subject to the Careless / Dangerous charges if they crash.
Da Bird
27th October 2004, 22:07
By the way I had a pursuit a few nights ago, it was about 0130 hours, country road, nil traffic, fine weather, straight roads, it lasted about 5 minutes, got to speeds of 170 and comms ordered it be abandoned.Yip, they know best...:bash:
Da Bird
27th October 2004, 22:11
yeep! they need it eh, the bikes have that bike training, to ride the new beemers (yucky) there was a 3 day course of riding over the rimutakas/some random areas down there i think.
Dunno how in-depth it was or anything but at least its a bit of a start possibly.
Off to do my 2 day cross-over course in a few weeks coz I don't know how to ride a BMW, especially with the indicators on each handlebar ! lol
Should be a fun couple of days hopefully....
Quasievil
28th October 2004, 05:46
Yes, they should set an example for other motorists. Fast driving is required from time to time but if you are driving so fast that you can't keep within your own lane then you are stepping over the line of whats reasonable.
Sometimes frustration creeps in when you are trying to balance urgent response with safe driving, things like drivers that won't pull over for lights and sirens can lead to poor decisions being made. Most cops will have a scary moment in a patrol car at some stage in their careers. Hopefully its never anything worse than a near miss and they learn very quickly that its not worth it when things turn pear shaped.
By the way I had a pursuit a few nights ago, it was about 0130 hours, country road, nil traffic, fine weather, straight roads, it lasted about 5 minutes, got to speeds of 170 and comms ordered it be abandoned.
Like Comms saying abandon the chase means an absolute, in my experience it meant turn the lights of and keep going
jimbo600
28th October 2004, 06:59
Yes, they should set an example for other motorists. Fast driving is required from time to time but if you are driving so fast that you can't keep within your own lane then you are stepping over the line of whats reasonable.
Sometimes frustration creeps in when you are trying to balance urgent response with safe driving, things like drivers that won't pull over for lights and sirens can lead to poor decisions being made. Most cops will have a scary moment in a patrol car at some stage in their careers. Hopefully its never anything worse than a near miss and they learn very quickly that its not worth it when things turn pear shaped.
By the way I had a pursuit a few nights ago, it was about 0130 hours, country road, nil traffic, fine weather, straight roads, it lasted about 5 minutes, got to speeds of 170 and comms ordered it be abandoned.
Stink mate. How much faster would you have got out of the old V6? What the offender running from?
jrandom
28th October 2004, 07:07
What the offender running from?
Mebbe Spud can't tell us without killing us, etc.
Reminds me of the time I was 13 or so, wandering down the road with some mates. Chap comes sprinting toward us wearing nothing but his undies, doing a fair clip. A real Keystone Kops bunch of boys and girls in blue pound round the corner about 100m behind him, point and yell, "Stop that man!". Well, me being a scrawny 13-year-old kid, I figured I didn't have much of a chance, but one of the guys I was with had a crack at tackling him (didn't work).
The pursuee hightailed it up the road, over a fence and through a school field. One of the cops pulled up beside me with hands on hips, sucking air (he looked like his condition might have degraded a little since his initial fitness test upon entry to the force). We asked him "so what'd that guy do, mister?". He replied, "We just wanted to talk to him..."
spudchucka
28th October 2004, 08:51
Like Comms saying abandon the chase means an absolute, in my experience it meant turn the lights of and keep going
There is a new procedure in place for abandonment. Comms as the pursuit controller can order a pursuit to be abandoned, the cops in the pursuit are required to acknowledge the order, turn off lights and sirens and then physically stop at the road side and give comms their position. Its pretty easy to tell over the radio if someone is still doing 170kph+. If cops don't follow the procedure they will be getting some serious counselling.
spudchucka
28th October 2004, 08:58
Stink mate. How much faster would you have got out of the old V6? What the offender running from?
I was on a side road near the outskirts of town, approaching a red light when two cars went flying past the other way, obviously racing. We chased both cars out of town, one of them pulled over quite quickly, I got his rego as we drove by and continued chasing the second car. I don't know what he was driving but the Holden was going to struggle to catch it. We closed the distance to about 100 metres when comms called it off.
Followed up with the driver that pulled over, he was pretty decent about it and he earned himself a break by pulling over, so he got a bit of a lecture and a warning.
vifferman
28th October 2004, 09:01
Phew! So there's a few cops on this forum, aye? SO can youse give us a few tips on how to get off tickets, evade arrest, and stuff? :shifty:
spudchucka
28th October 2004, 14:13
Phew! So there's a few cops on this forum, aye? SO can youse give us a few tips on how to get off tickets, evade arrest, and stuff? :shifty:
Know the rules and don't be a dickhead!!
NodMan
1st November 2004, 22:01
Off to do my 2 day cross-over course in a few weeks coz I don't know how to ride a BMW, especially with the indicators on each handlebar ! lol
Should be a fun couple of days hopefully....
Mate its gotta be the best two days I've been paid for in years...probably since Motley days an the ole XJ750s...just a couple of suggestions...dont grind toooo much off the centrestand and dont lift the front wheel toooo much when any body can see it...somebody might get the wrong idea that ya actually enjoy ya work!!!!...and this from the man who only has two rules ...no1 HATE HONDAS and no2 HATE BMWS...in fact try the old " hey sarge this bike is way diff from my own bikes I think I need the EXTENDED TWO WEEK training course, where do I sign up please???" :blah: :niceone:
igor
2nd November 2004, 07:04
no1 HATE HONDAS and no2 HATE BMWS...in fact try the old " hey sarge this bike is way diff from my own bikes I think I need the EXTENDED TWO WEEK training course, where do I sign up please???" :blah: :niceone:
hey noddy. speaking to No L at ACT today and he loved his course 2. Shame our boss don't want bikes and I don't wanna do terrific, due to the bullshit that is now being forced upon staff.
we be off for a two day ride in the next few days. Homotown - Rotoonhua - Opotiki - Motu Road - Matawai- Ah feck I no (but I am sure, lets go down here Bayes will have a few ideas) I went down a road a while back and it brought u out at some mini Niagara Falls the ya can pop thru to Tiniroto Pub and onto Wairoa - Mahia Beach
Next day return via Waikeremoanana to Homotown.
be thinking of u Jaffas stuck in traffic.
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