Who's been a pillion when the riders binned it?

[mitchilin]

My experience is that as a rider I'm a real crap pillion.I look and if I don't agree with the line I change it and as a pillion I can and do.Girlfriends just hang on but mates don't.They hang on to the back grab rail and look.I've felt guilty when we have fallen off but have always felt"Hell dude, you're driving."I hate being a pillion and warn people that I'm a bad one.Anyone else experienced this?

[Trudes]

YES!!! I used to be a great pillion (I was told many times), but since riding myself I am now a terrible pillion, I do the same thing, lean in when I feel like the corner needs a little more, get shitty when the hubby revs my hornet like it's his GSXR etc etc. Sucks, but, just a good excuse not to ever pillion and ride yourself eh!

[mitchilin]

My show off mates were always leaning in too far so I would lean out.Now my son does the same thing to me.He was great when he was four,now he's 100 kg and dictates the lines we take.I realise now that I used to do the same.

[kevfromcoro]

Was on a mates bike a few years ago.pillion
Binned it in a corner on the way to Kawakawa Bay.
Horrible feeling.lucky we ended up in a padock with the cows.
Nobody hurt.
Being pillion isnt a lot of fun.......
its a bit like flying on an aeroplane...going fast and no control
had a few nastys being a pillion.....

[sweetp]

The first time I went was a pillion I was told I lean to far. Since then I just try to mold my body to his and emulate what he is doing. Since I started riding myself I haven't gotten on the back as much, but now appreciate what he does, and hey what girl wouldn't want to wrap herself around a guy on a throbing shinny red bike? But yeah, I appreciate my technique may not work if you are out with mates....

[Katman]

Back in my teenage years, me and a close mate (who was reasonably good at the little bit of circuit racing that he did) never seemed to be able to synchronise our motorcycle ownership. When he had a motorbike and I didn't, I'd jump on the back of his to head off for the weekend. When I had a motorbike and he didn't, I'd jump on the bike of mine to head off for the weekend. He was a prick on the back of a bike.

[Mental Trousers]

A really good rider won't let a pillion control the bike. That sort of stuff used to be taught as part of advanced riding skills that the local pro trainer did. Was fantastic stuff. We'd pair off and take turns being pillion. As pillion we'd lean way the hell off 1 side when doing slalom through cones and alsorts of shit like that to try and put the rider off.

Not only did that teach us how to ride with a difficult pillion, but it also taught us how to be a pillion without being an annoying/dangerous prick. These days when I'm on the back I consciously make sure I don't try to control the bike. I'll even go so far as to close my eyes if I think I might try to.

If you're not going to totally trust the rider and their abilities then don't get on the back. If you want to control the bike then ride it.

[Unit]

Started as a pillion and was great at it, but since riding myself always had my own bike so no need to be a pillion. I've never been a pillion when the rider has binned so cant really comment on the reason for this thread.
Interestingly just before I sold the RSVR recently, Chris had to pillion me into town. I loved it and this was one of the reasons for buying the ZX14, that Im keen to spend some time as a pillion enjoying my partners riding. Part of that is overcoming my fear of being on the back, but I also want to get back to enjoying being on the same bike together, appreciating Chris' riding and enjoying the scenery, (plus the added bonus of fuel economy not running two bikes all the time). Thus far I have to say I have not found myself on the back of my own bike, but Im looking forward to it.

[Trudes]

As a side note, I won't pillion anyone on my bike either, I just don't like having anyone elses life that much in my hands. No probs in the car, there's a bit more lei way for mistakes as well as a large cage for protection. Can't believe the people I used to pillion with as a teenager and not think twice about it, and the lack of gear too!!! :wacko:

[mitchilin]

I'm ,now a "sack of spuds" on a bike.I just sit there but being a good pillion is an art.My ol' GPz used to headshake at 160 in a straight line but with the missus on the back was dead stable over 200 klicks.As a male I don't think I could handle that.Even as a passenger in a car I've told people "lucky you saved that ,I was about too smack your teeth down your throat".And it's not an idle threat.

[Oakie]

I let Mrs Oakie ride my 400 while I pillioned a few times before she became Mrs Oakie many years ago. While it did have it's good points (a couple of them I believe) it was always good to get back in front.

I would probably pillion for her again but no-one else.

[discotex]

If you're not going to totally trust the rider and their abilities then don't get on the back. If you want to control the bike then ride it.

Couldn't have said it better myself. Same applies to cars. If I really don't trust someone's driving I'll do all I can to not get in the car with them.

[NotaGoth]

Have only gone pillion six times. No bins. I hope there is never one.

[tri boy]

Ummmm, Kanny knows what it feels like to slam into a ditch while being a pillion.:o
(I still feel a bit upset about that):(
Neither of us was seriously hurt, and she was very calm throughout the whole incident:hug::woohoo:

[craigs288]

Near the end of 1987 I was on the back of an SR250 a mate had borrowed from a neighbour. Unfortunately he was trying to ride it like his previous bike, an RG400.

So we're taking a left hand bend in Peachgrove in TeAtatu Nth (sorry, 'The Peninsula') in the wet and start doing this mean drift. My mate keeps the gas on and the drift gets bigger and becomes falling over to the left. Just before we hit the road he kicks ground with his left leg and we pop back up, into another big slide, still following the bend but on the wrong side of the road this time.
Then the bike falls again and pins my left leg under it, but with my lower leg bent back underneath. Two people on an SR250 on top of my leg going 70km/h on rough chip surface was not too pleasant and ate through my jeans, skin, cartilage and into the bone in the 1 or 2 seconds before I kicked myself backwards away from the bike. At which point I slid across the road on my ass until my right hip slammed into that bit of curb where the driveway stops and the raised bit of curb starts and I stopped instantly.
I clearly remember lying there running my tongue around my teeth to see if I had chipped a tooth but it turns out that I had just knocked out a filling. That was marginally less painfull than thinking about the damage to my legs.
I had a gaping open wound in my leg for about 3 months where I could see all the purple cartilage (it got infected) and also in the top of the knuckle where the big toe joins your foot. The bike had also managed to melt and grind my running shoe into the cartilage in the knuckle. My right hip and ass cheek was the size of a basketball a couple of months from the nice bruise to my hip bone and pelvis.
That fun event happened the night before my 7th form end of year calculus exam so about 12 hours later I was sitting at Rutherford College on my left ass cheek for three hours, bombed out of my head on Digesics, alcohol and pot trying to ignore the pain. Still got 65%.
Being a pillion in an accident sucks ass.

[jrandom]

Peachgrove in TeAtatu Nth

Jesus, anyone who manages to bin on that little road really is riding like a fuckwit. (I lived around the corner just off Neal Ave for years.) My sympathies, dude.

On the subject of pillioning, I took a young friend of mine for his first ride on a motorcycle last night. He's planning on getting his 6L and wanted to know what it was like to be on two wheels on the open road.

He wasn't a good pillion. Zero trust, very nervous, kept trying to look around me, moving his weight around while we were leaned over, etc. I had to get pretty positive with handlebar input in the corners, couldn't just 'think' the bike around them like I can with my usual well-trained pillion. :love:

After an hour or so he settled down and started to feel more relaxed on the back, but admitted that it basically scared the shit out of him.

He's decided to buy a motorcycle this summer, though. He's gagging to do the same thing, but be in control.

And that's how it should be.

:niceone:

[SVboy]

I spent a lot of time on the back of mates bikes in the late 70s-early eighties. i pillioned with riders I trusted, and they trusted me to do the right thing on the back. However, we took stupid risks-safety gear by Levis-boots by Adidas! Oh to be young and bulletproof again!
I recall being on the back of a senior KB members bike in the Maniototo-gsxr 1100?-attempting to crack the speed of sound----with no helmet!!!!OMG!
..or that time on the back of a Yammie xj 650 going into a roundabout at warp factor 9. Rossi would have struggled with that one, let alone 2 dickheads smashed out of their skulls on pharmacuticals-anyway I woke up in chch ICU 4 days later...........treat this as a cautionary tale.

[Macstar]

My bike handles better with a bit of weight on the back - really smooth through the corners. My girlfriend is a pro pavillion. She's been on the back of my bikes for over two years now and knows exactly what to do. It's a real pleasure taking her around, but every now and then I take one of my mates too and man what a difference. They wrench my torso approaching corners as if my waist is a second pair of handle bars, slide into me and generally lean every which way but the right one.

My mate took me on the back of his Gn 250 the other day (first time I'd pavillioned in two years) and man it was scary. He's a perfectly good rider, it's just that I wasn't in control.... So yep, I'm a hipocrite!

Anyway, sorry (although I am very grateful too) but I have never had a bin whilst being a pavillion, but at the same time I will not let someone on the back of my bike unless they wear my spare pair of gloves and jacket. I also offer my spare pair of cordura pants too. Oh and I give my girlfriend my back and chest protector even though her jacket has one built in.

Hurting myself in an accident... I could live with that, but being responsible for screwing someone else, stuff that.

[Mental Trousers]

.... she was very calm throughout the whole incident:hug::woohoo:

That's not what I heard mate :jerry:

[sprag]

ah when i was riding a few years ago I use to get the mates on the back of the bike as we did not have cars or the parents would not let us have the car, a close friend of mine told me when your on the back let the rider control it and just go limp,

[Jorja]

There is only one person I will pillion with. Being on the back with someone else, you are putting your life in their hands.
Have had several people offer me rides but I just don't feel comfortable with anyone else.

[fireball]

ive been told i am a good pillion... i have put it down to two things

one.. im so little and light im just your every day backpack and you dont even notice im there so even if i do get it wrong there is hardly enough weight to shift the bike off its line.

and two.... i learnt to pillion with my little brother on our DS80, we had many accidents on that bike going over jumps getting stuck in mud hitting gravel hitting ditches, dead sheep, rabbit holes you name it we crashed into it or on it.
my fave would have to be the day we tried to jump the water race, flying along the paddock he got sun strike randomly turned left off over a 5 meter drop where the water race was, we only made it halfway over bike got drowned in the water and i got a nice black eye little brother well he got a hell of a fright

i have learnt to relax and trust who ever is the rider mind you i wont get on a bike with just anyone they have to have experience and know what they are doing as its not just their life its mine too

[sunhuntin]

used to pillion heaps before i got my license, both as a young kid [2 years and younger] and as an adult. used to be a decent pillion, not so sure now though...

last time i pillioned was to the welly cheesecutter ride. i basically do the sack of spuds and hope like hell. LOL. helps having the jacket belt to hang onto. in the end, i just put my head against his back and shut my eyes. dozed somewhat... alert enough to feel what the bike was doing. couldnt see shit through his helmet, so figured why not doze? LOL. only opened my eyes when i realised my pillow was slowly getting lower and lower, and again when he whacked my helmet with his to point out mcduck pootling along.

[HenryDorsetCase]

The first time I went was a pillion I was told I lean to far. Since then I just try to mold my body to his and emulate what he is doing.

that sounds like good advice no matter what you're doing.....

;)

[90s]

When I was a teen on a Vespa / Lambretta / variety of small scooters I used to pillion a friends. One was hopeless - he'd lurch about trying to control the bike. For small bikes with the engine over the rear wheel this was not a good idea. He nearly binned us several times, and each we had a shouting match after when he promised to change. He never did. Later I had a Suzuki TSX dirt bike which was much more stable, and he almost binned us on that too. (Yes, I know I promised to ban him, but I believed him each time and he didn't have transport ... we've all got some mates who are knobends).

Missus and I have done RRRS with her as pillion and she has learned to be a great pillion on that. Hopefully we'll never bin together.

[HenryDorsetCase]

and I hate hate hate being a pillion. I'd rather take the car.

[90s]

and I hate hate hate being a pillion. I'd rather take the car.

+1.
Even in the car I hate not being in control. I 'drive' it anyway, 'doing' the pedal and gripping for life. I've been a pillion about 3 times and no, it is not for me.

[007XX]

YES!!! I used to be a great pillion (I was told many times), but since riding myself I am now a terrible pillion, I do the same thing, lean in when I feel like the corner needs a little more, get shitty when the hubby revs my hornet like it's his GSXR etc etc. Sucks, but, just a good excuse not to ever pillion and ride yourself eh!

+1...except that I now categorically refuse to be a pillion for another reason too: 007XY has modified the pillion's footpegs on the SV to accomodate the new can's layout, and the bastich thing is even more uncomfortable than it used to be! :mad: :rolleyes:

But yes, I also go through hell trying desperately not to look and take the lead!
Plus, I got to admit that for once, I got a little scared pillioning, because I wasn't in control :shit: Never, ever was it an issue before...:crybaby:

[sprag]

Use to have a mate who would get his g/f on the back of the bike, however on long trips she use to fall asleep on the dam thing.

[kevfromcoro]

Use to have a mate who would get his g/f on the back of the bike, however on long trips she use to fall asleep on the dam thing.

Shit..fall asleep on the back of a bike
That sounds a bit dangerous

[Trudes]

I used to fall asleep on the back of my ex's ZZR, but only when he had the packrack on, snug as a bug in a rug having a little sleep on the back of the bike.

[Mom]

Been riding off and on for 30+ years, and have done a bit of time as a pillion.
Yes I have been dropped off the back, while him in front did a wheelie (the ex-him in front!)

When Maha man started riding and first took me as pillion I "showed" him what a badly behaved pillion did, so he had an idea of how badly his ride can be affected. Mean I know, but important to learn.

I always prided myself as a good pillion. Never had complaints from the ex anyway. With a new rider, I admit to wanting to see what was happening ahead, so used to watch......apparently watching leads to taking different lines than him in front, which sends me to the bad pillion place.

So I stopped looking, to let him find his own lines. I am a great pillion now (eh love?....LOL) It is not easy being a pillion passenger, it involves total trust in the rider up front.

I used to ride 2 up as a general commute through the Dome Valley (huge accident black spot up this way) for many years. Never thought twice about taking someone pillion, I take as much care of them, if not more, as I do of myself! I am very precious and worth looking after well.....LOL

[Mom]

I used to fall asleep on the back of my ex's ZZR, but only when he had the packrack on, snug as a bug in a rug having a little sleep on the back of the bike.

I sneezed once on the back of Maha's bike, it was a biggie and had built up for a while..........we had a helmet clash as a result, he thought I had fallen asleep and gave a good grab of the front brake to "wake me up".........LOL

I dont fall asleep as much as day dream and mind wander, pillion is such an easy place to be with the right rider up front!

I love having my own wheels now, wont change our pillioning, but dang!......the inline 4 gives such a mmmmmmmmmmmmmm........ooops sorry!

[kevfromcoro]

Had a girlie on the back once ..and took off a bit quick,,,
she slid off the back and landed on the road
didnt dampen her spirits though
got back on..went a few hundred meters and she put her hands over my eyes
That was a bit frightening
ever tryed riding a bike ...with no vision
SCARY

[Str8 Jacket]

Ive pillioned a fair bit.... Before I got my 1st bike I spent a bit of time on the back of a crazy mans bike! My first time on the back and he wheelied of every set of lights up the motorway up to the Taka's and he was pretty fast over the hill. I didnt trust him but I trusted his ridng even though at times it scared me shitless, but I loved it! Funnily enough after we broke up I missed the bike so much I got my own bike! I also spent a bit of time pillioning from Wgtn right up to the top of the North Island and back a few times and found it sweet. Now that I have spent a bit of time riding and am quite confident I find it really hard to pillion, it just doesnt always feel right not being able to control the bike myself and it freaks me out when they brake later or earlier than I would etc....

[Bullitt]

Ive never been a pillion and dont think I would enjoy it.

First time I took my ex on my bike which was the first time Id carried a pillion I found she was leaning far more than I was, as someone who had never carried a pillion riding on a wet road when the rain was coming in sideways it was bloody scary.

Once I told her to just stay in line with the bike rather than leaning more than it she was ok though.

Still much prefer being by myself though.

[trump-lady]

My bike handles better with a bit of weight on the back - really smooth through the corners. My girlfriend is a pro pavillion. She's been on the back of my bikes for over two years now and knows exactly what to do. It's a real pleasure taking her around, but every now and then I take one of my mates too and man what a difference. They wrench my torso approaching corners as if my waist is a second pair of handle bars, slide into me and generally lean every which way but the right one.

My mate took me on the back of his Gn 250 the other day (first time I'd pavillioned in two years) and man it was scary. He's a perfectly good rider, it's just that I wasn't in control.... So yep, I'm a hipocrite!

Anyway, sorry (although I am very grateful too) but I have never had a bin whilst being a pavillion, but at the same time I will not let someone on the back of my bike unless they wear my spare pair of gloves and jacket. I also offer my spare pair of cordura pants too. Oh and I give my girlfriend my back and chest protector even though her jacket has one built in.

Hurting myself in an accident... I could live with that, but being responsible for screwing someone else, stuff that.

Yeah u and your girl are amazing to watch. U look like one mass and move in sync. Amazing to watch....She def doesnt slow you down.....but when she gets her own that might change :)

[Kittyhawk]

Easy steps to be a good pillion...

let them get on and start up

jump on.

hold the tank

if you are approaching corners close your eyes and keep holding the tank, go with both rider and bike.

If rider is too large for you to get your arms around to the tank, hold upper thighs, (not intimately if you are both males! unless discussed prior to riding lol)

Tight twisites, swing your hips with the rider...yes it works.

It may take a couple of rides to feel where the rider leans into and out of corners but once mastered...its damn near close to sex on wheels!

Two become one with the bike.

Or you could just lean off the back seat and get ya knee down :spanking:

[Gremlin]

Only pillioned twice, different riders. First said I was very good... second said I wasn't too good :confused: (then again, that bugger pulled 2 wheelies and did twice the speed limit around a bend)

Due to my size, in a lot of situations, the rider prefers to go pillion, and I will ride the bike. Had a lot of pillions, from so comfortable they don't hold on, to leaning out of corners. Much prefer to take pillions than go on the back myself.

[90s]

she put her hands over my eyes
That was a bit frightening
ever tryed riding a bike ...with no vision
SCARY

Darwin award winner right there ...

[yungatart]

I've never binned as a pillion....my man leaves that dicey stuff up to me to do all on my own.
I ride but I still enjoy being a pillion, if I want to go fast it has to be on the back of someone else's bike, cos I don't do fast.
I still find the pillion seat of a bike one of the best places to sort out the shit in my head.

[MSTRS]

+1.
Even in the car I hate not being in control. I 'drive' it anyway, 'doing' the pedal and gripping for life. I've been a pillion about 3 times and no, it is not for me.

You just described me

[craigs288]

+1.
Even in the car I hate not being in control.

Especially when mid-drift. I minute it is all good. Next thing you're a passenger who is pumping pedals and trying to tear the steering wheel off the column

[jade]

Jesus
When I was young and dumb, like 2 or 3 years ago
Me and a mate both got into bikes at the same time, eventually one of us would lose a licence and get ferried around on the others bike,
Mostly, it was me on the back of his bikes, 87gsxr 250 (still to this day the loudest bloody bike I have ever heard in my life)
and his Repsol Replica 91 nsr250
We never had any real dodgy moments even though we drove like complete fuckwits, (going on night cruises to look for races, excessive speeding, wheelies etc) I have to say we had some funny stories at the time, (getting picked up from the local, the rule was pillion got the helmet !)
We had a couple of 'moments' when cars pulled out but never any slides or anything, basically it comes down to trust and knowledge of riding,
when I was a pillion - I would help steer - but only help the driver, not steer where I thought we should go
I must say, we did some dumb shit (maxing out our 250's was a regular occurance on any motorway any day) and after reading this thread,
I wouldnt get on the back of anybodys bike again
I had a serious accident and was seriously injured by my own fault, I feel for those who were the same by someone elses

P.S> 2 NSR's and an 2 Rs250s are proof that 2 strokes will wheelie in first and second without clutch with a well placed pillion on board

[BiK3RChiK]

I hate being pillioned! I have done this maybe 3 times recently and unless absolutely necessary, I will not repeat the experience! I have never pillioned anyone recently, although I do remember a time when I pillioned a guy when we were in our teens and I managed to bin his bike! He never did that again!!

M

[mstriumph]

......as a rider I'm a real crap pillion........

me too - i'd be dangerous
in fact i couldn't trust myself to pillion
so i don't do it

i allus think it's best to own up to your limitations - this, and not being able to spell worth a damn, are mine :confused:

[Motu]

I've spent a lot of time as a pillion in my younger days,and would like to think I was good at it - helping the rider even if I wasn't too happy with what they were doing.Been down a couple of times,no problems with that at the time,obviously not major prangs.

I remember one time knowing we were too hot into a corner,felt the Avon GP slip onto it's last rib,and we were heading for the curb.''I'm outa here'' I thought,and stood on the inside pillion peg to step off the bike when it went down - it must of been the right thing to do as the T'bird stood up and tightened the turn.We made it no problem.

I don't know if I would be a good pillion now - it's a matter of knowing the rider,trusting them even if they aren't a good rider....and just becoming one with the bike.

You orta try crashing as a sidecar passenger - now that's something to put the shits up ya!

[Nagash]

I bailed once with me sister on the back.. felt like a real dick head for doing that.

That person trusts you enough to sit on the back and you go and drop 'em.


Luckily I took it worse then her.. initial crash was all good, she jumped off the back and ended up on the other side of the road, got up no injuries. My bike landed on me foot and I was trapped underneath it and couldn't get up. She was in shock and wasn't thinking about what had happened..

Car came round the corner saw me underneath me bike, slammed on the brakes and pointed to go around the bike, ended up hitting me! Just with the front bumper and just as it was stopping, but hit me hard enough to give me some wicked bruises all down me back.