Oh the irony!!! Nicked!!! [Archive]

Edbear

14th November 2007, 20:16

After all my posts in support of the law and those fine men and women who enforce the law... I got nicked for speeding!:shit:

Tonight on my way home from a meeting with a client I was following at some distance a 4X4 towing a trailer and he didn't seem to have trailer lights, so I was trying to see as I got closer, whether they were non-existent or just really weak.

Coming under the Silverdale overpass, (Yes I KNOW the HP often sit on the other side!), I wasn't watching the speedo and sure enough, he got me for 112km/h!!!:done:

He did accept my explanation, and said he had to look twice at the trailer too, as he wasn't sure about the lights either! Still it was a quick $80 fine!:Police:

So I'm a bit sadder and wiser - haven't had a ticket since about '93, (speed camera for 61km/h), I guess I'm a bad example after all...:no:

McJim

14th November 2007, 20:18

If you were following the guy with the trailer I'm surprised the copper didn't book him for exceeding 90kph (maximum speed when towing) but then that would fly in the face of allegations that the police are victimising bikes eh? :rofl:

Edbear

14th November 2007, 20:26

Well actually I was gaining on him so I'm sure the cop would have nicked himwas he speeding. I was still far enough back that I had trouble seeing his tail-lights. Plus I was in my car this time.

I'd just waved at a red CBR 250 as I passed him just before Silverdale, and he turned off there. So if he's reading this, "HI!"

Mom

14th November 2007, 20:33

Edbear

14th November 2007, 20:56

I crawl under that overpass after getting pinged there.........mind you twas a little bit more than you got a ticket for :whistle:

The easy pic 112kph speeder versus the unlit/poorly lit trailer at night.......no contest really.......condolences mate!

Yeah I ALWAYS check my speed coming under there, too! I usually do between 105-109km/h, I try not to go over that.

Typical that the "one time"... Well maybe not strictly the "one time", but I rarely worry about the HP and I'd been priding myself on only ever getting that one camera fine in my entire driving history!!!!

Daffyd

14th November 2007, 21:02

Ya see? You're just as big a criminal as the rest of us! :spanking:

Toaster

14th November 2007, 21:04

...he got me for 112km/h!!!:done:

He did accept my explanation,... Still it was a quick $80 fine!:Police:

... I guess I'm a bad example after all...:no:

Getting a ticket at 112km/h on such a straight road with a barrier and dual laning seems a tad zealous in my book. It is likely I know who it is. PM me a description and number off the ticket.

Sounds like he did not accept anything - he still gave you an instant fine regardless.

Edbear you are a good example mate and always will be. You have a good attitude to driving and riding and a good history from what you stated.

Mom

14th November 2007, 21:07

Yeah I ALWAYS check my speed coming under there, too! I usually do between 105-109km/h, I try not to go over that.

Typical that the "one time"... Well maybe not strictly the "one time", but I rarely worry about the HP and I'd been priding myself on only ever getting that one camera fine in my entire driving history!!!!

Yep I know the not strictly one time, by matching it with my done more than that there and got pinged deservedly.....to move to my opening gambit...

I hear your one time and raise you my one time on the Te Kauwhata straights, 113 overtaking a truck on a passing lane.....LOL...bummer big time you big speeding dangerous driver you.....We are so naughty!

Lteejay

14th November 2007, 21:08

So I'm a bit sadder and wiser - haven't had a ticket since about '93, (speed camera for 61km/h), I guess I'm a bad example after all...:no:

Quick bloke the childrens eyes :msn-wink:

Edbear

14th November 2007, 21:18

Ya see? You're just as big a criminal as the rest of us! :spanking:

Unless you're over 100kg, I's prolly bigger...:second:

Getting a ticket at 112km/h on such a straight road with a barrier and dual laning seems a tad zealous in my book. It is likely I know who it is. PM me a description and number off the ticket.

Sounds like he did not accept anything - he still gave you an instant fine regardless.

Edbear you are a good example mate and always will be. You have a good attitude to driving and riding and a good history from what you stated.

Thanks, mate! I can't argue, though. Maybe a bit zealous, but as I said in a recent thread, "Fair Cop Guv!" He's a biggish bloke, 40's?, dark hair, marked HP car. Seemed nice enough, asked if I wanted to see the reading but I told him I'd take his word for it, especially as I'd checked my speed just a second too late and I knew I was doing the 112.:Oops:

Yep I know the not strictly one time, by matching it with my done more than that there and got pinged deservedly.....to move to my opening gambit...

I hear your one time and raise you my one time on the Te Kauwhata straights, 113 overtaking a truck on a passing lane.....LOL...bummer big time you big speeding dangerous driver you.....We are so naughty!

Te Kauwhata is as well known as the Silverdale overpass!!! Yeah, we should start a "naughty club!":nono:

Mom

14th November 2007, 21:18

Getting a ticket at 112km/h on such a straight road with a barrier and dual laning seems a tad zealous in my book. It is likely I know who it is. PM me a description and number off the ticket.

Sounds like he did not accept anything - he still gave you an instant fine regardless.

Edbear you are a good example mate and always will be. You have a good attitude to driving and riding and a good history from what you stated.

I know I have been naughty in the past, but this is a prime example of why plod get a bad name.....LOL. Maybe not quota this time, just an easy pick......we are talking about Edbear after all.......LOL..Sorry Edbear......LOL

Toaster

14th November 2007, 21:23

I know I have been naughty in the past, but this is a prime example of why plod get a bad mane.....LOL. Maybe not quota this time, just an easy pick......we are talking about Edbear after all.......LOL..Sorry Edbear......LOL

Was plod a horsing around ("mane")??!!?

Well, as Ed says, it is a fair catch. the Limit is 100km/h and he exceeded that limit so no argument. Personally though I feel it is harsh given the road conditions there. However, they have their orders to follow... I just prefer it if they would do it in a more notorious spot for crashes and make sure they pick up the crims going past too.... adn the dickheads who drive too slowly and hold up traffic.

Kahikatea Flat Road is a prime example of slow drivers holding up the flow. Some go as slow as 65km/h.

Big Dave

14th November 2007, 21:23

Shit happens - Write the cheque and move on edwardo.

Edbear

14th November 2007, 21:29

I know I have been naughty in the past, but this is a prime example of why plod get a bad name.....LOL. Maybe not quota this time, just an easy pick......we are talking about Edbear after all.......LOL..Sorry Edbear......LOL

Yeah I guess I'm easy. That's what the Missus reckons...:whistle:

Shit happens - Write the cheque and move on edwardo.

Yup! But I admit I "moved on" a little more slowly!!!;)

steveb64

14th November 2007, 21:33

Yep I know the not strictly one time, by matching it with my done more than that there and got pinged deservedly.....to move to my opening gambit...

I hear your one time and raise you my one time on the Te Kauwhata straights, 113 overtaking a truck on a passing lane.....LOL...bummer big time you big speeding dangerous driver you.....We are so naughty!

Watch out Mom - the kharma that got Edbear may well get you next! 'Twas just the other day that Edbear made the mistake of boasting about only one ticket... ...and look what happened to him! :whistle: :D

Edbear

14th November 2007, 21:35

Was plod a horsing around ("mane")??!!?

Well, as Ed says, it is a fair catch. the Limit is 100km/h and he exceeded that limit so no argument. Personally though I feel it is harsh given the road conditions there. However, they have their orders to follow... I just prefer it if they would do it in a more notorious spot for crashes and make sure they pick up the crims going past too.... adn the dickheads who drive too slowly and hold up traffic.

Kahikatea Flat Road is a prime example of slow drivers holding up the flow. Some go as slow as 65km/h.

True, especially at 8:30pm in very light traffic, and I'd come along Kahikatea Flat Rd this arvo and got stuck behind a couple trucks.

But as I've often said, although it seems a tad harsh, the limit's there and I pay the price. I have a lot of respect for the Police in general, I'd hate to do their job and I can't criticise them for doing their job. He was nice enough about it, though I did kinda hope my explanation would see me let off with a warning...:confused:

MaxB

14th November 2007, 22:09

Edbear

15th November 2007, 07:36

Sorry to hear about your ticket. Can happen to anyone.

One of my new in-laws from the UK (over here for a family wedding) got a ticket for just over 100 in a similar spot to you. He is still emailing me about it 6 months later! 30 years driving with no accidents and no tickets until he came here. His question is 'Why ticket people on the motorway, they are the safest roads in the world?'

My younest daughter's husband came out from Germany and got three tickets before it sunk in that NZ didn't allow unlimited speeds on Motorways...:bash:

He was used to driving at 200+:rockon:

Edbear

4th December 2007, 20:28

Well, I guess I had to try it! I wrote a letter explaining my situation as per my posts here, and asked ever-so politely if they would consider waiving the fine just this time in light of the circumstances.:rolleyes:

I got a reply today, saying that "I have carefully considered your comments in the context of all offence details...I have determined that the offence will not be waived", that I would have to pay up.:crybaby:

An interesting paragraph I thought I'd share was the next...

"Police apply a maximum tolerance of 10km/h in relation to speeding offences. The provision of a tolerance is police policy to guide the point at which enforcement action is taken. The policy should not be construed as licence to exceed any speed limit by the amount of tolerance involved."

So there you have it in black and white. 10km/h+ and you'll get a ticket. :spanking:

Devil

5th December 2007, 12:22

I really dont know why we dont have higher speed limits on bits of road like that. It's a new, wide safe road, with maximum visibility. I'd have a go at the cop if I got pulled for that (knowing full well that that is the law...).

The Pastor

5th December 2007, 12:37

DMNTD

5th December 2007, 12:41

I really dont know why we dont have higher speed limits on bits of road like that...

Or at least a higher tolerance level.

Indoo

5th December 2007, 17:00

But as I've often said, although it seems a tad harsh, the limit's there and I pay the price. I have a lot of respect for the Police in general, I'd hate to do their job and I can't criticise them for doing their job. He was nice enough about it, though I did kinda hope my explanation would see me let off with a warning...:confused:

Unfortunately his performance as a motorways/highway patrol cop is judged solely in regard to how many tickets he gives out and what those tickets are for. Don't expect discretion unless he's in above of his performance measures.

Edbear

5th December 2007, 20:00

im glad that the world is a much safer place now that a crim like edbear is off the road. robbers, rapists and assulters are targetted far too much, its not their fault if there [insert reason here] was less than the rich white man.

makes me sick, ed bear you're a good example of a typical road user, dont take it too personaly.

Heh heh! You shoulda seen me this arvo! I had to go to Kaiwaka to see clients and since my son had borrowed the Pulsar while his car was getting a WOF I just had to take the Legend!:devil2: 3.5lt quad-cam, injected V6, whooarrr! No worries passing anyone, anywhere, anytime...:laugh: (In complete safety and with consideration to the other road users of course!:Police:)

Naturally, when setting the cruise-control now I select 105, instead of 110...;)

Unfortunately his performance as a motorways/highway patrol cop is judged solely in regard to how many tickets he gives out and what those tickets are for. Don't expect discretion unless he's in above of his performance measures.

Oh, mebbe he hadn't got his quota for the day and wuz jes' hoping I'd come along and sneak over the tolerance... Hey I coulda got the ticket by only doin' 111km/h instead of risking my life at 112, eh? (Sorry, p/t)

paturoa

5th December 2007, 20:13

Naturally, when setting the cruise-control now I select 105, instead of 110...;)

I've got a GPS and when my cage says it is doing 110 ks it is only doing 102. At 105 mine would only be doing 97........

Edbear

5th December 2007, 20:26

I've got a GPS and when my cage says it is doing 110 ks it is only doing 102. At 105 mine would only be doing 97........

Woops! Clean forgot about the GPS!!! Of course! I'll check it tomorrow!

I didn't have it on as I knew where I was going, but I use it often to find the way to a client's place.

MyGSXF

5th December 2007, 20:35

.. I got nicked for speeding!:shit:

oooohhhh.. you naughty naughty boy.. :spanking:

Edbear

6th December 2007, 05:40

oooohhhh.. you naughty naughty boy.. :spanking:

I know...:confused:

I've told the Missus I need a spanking...:shifty:

Edbear

7th December 2007, 05:36

Well, I checked the Legend's speedo with the GPS and 100 indicated is actually 96, so I can set the cruise at 110 and be doing 106, not fast enough to get a ticket. Funny cruise-control on it, only works up to 110, won't hold a higher speed than that. Must be a safety thing, Honda must think that if you're going faster than that you shouldn't be sleeping...

I was a bit surprised at how far out the speedo was, especially as the big 16 inch tyres are still very new.

Today I'll check the Pulsar, I think that one is more accurate, going by those speed-check devices they park on ther roadside.

Edbear

7th December 2007, 15:27

Well, the Pulsar is only 3km/h out - 100 indicated is 97 on the GPS.

007XX

7th December 2007, 15:35

I know...:confused:

I've told the Missus I need a spanking...:shifty:

:laugh: PM me if she needs a hand!

Well, the Pulsar is only 3km/h out - 100 indicated is 97 on the GPS.

So, can a GPS really be considered more accurate than the car speedo? I was told the same thing a while ago, but I'm a bit dubious. If it came to justifying my speed to a cop, I'd like to have my facts straight...

Edbear

7th December 2007, 17:31

007XY may have something to say about that idea...:blink:

I'm not sure just how accurate the GPS is, but I assume it's much more accurate than the car speedo. Does anyone here know for sure?

Toaster

7th December 2007, 17:40

So, can a GPS really be considered more accurate than the car speedo? I was told the same thing a while ago, but I'm a bit dubious. If it came to justifying my speed to a cop, I'd like to have my facts straight...

Justifying speed using GPS? It isn't "justifed" at all by saying that. If you are over, you are over. The method by which you thought you were under is no justification, but merely an excuse or reason why. It would not change the fact that the police could prove that you were over.

Mom

7th December 2007, 17:52

Justifying speed using GPS? It isn't "justifed" at all by saying that. If you are over, you are over. The method by which you thought you were under is no justification, but merely an excuse or reason why. It would not change the fact that the police could prove that you were over.

Agreed! GPS is a tool to acertain the difference between your speed reading and the "actual" speed you were travelling at. Bigger tyres can affect your speedo reading. You can actually be done for speeding (112) even though you are travelling at your speedo (100) Trust me, you can. Took a couple of 82 in a 70, and 112 in a 100 to discover the van's speedo was not accurate. GPS was what we used to confirm it.

kiwifruit

7th December 2007, 18:05

he got me for 112km/h!!!:done:

I guess I'm a bad example after all...:no:

yes, SLOW DOWN FFS

Edbear

7th December 2007, 18:10

yes, SLOW DOWN FFS

I definitely did tonight on my way home! A dark blue, new Commodore Omega, plain cop accompanied me all the way from Albany to Orewa...:calm:

It's amazing how an $80 ticket makes you more aware of your speed...:(

Toaster

7th December 2007, 20:19

I definitely did tonight on my way home! A dark blue, new Commodore Omega, plain cop accompanied me all the way from Albany to Orewa...:calm:

It's amazing how an $80 ticket makes you more aware of your speed...:(

If its an omega I would guess it ain't traffic.... they get the flash ones.:Police:

Edbear

7th December 2007, 20:31

If its an omega I would guess it ain't traffic.... they get the flash ones.:Police:

I was wondering whether he was traffic or not, had a humungus ariel ,(sp), on the back of the roof and just the little lights in the back and front. I think the Omega is the base model though? Next up is the Berlina I think. Have to check on that.

He wasn't cruising at 95 like the traffic patrols do, he was doing about the 102 per my speedo, I passed him keeping under the 110 indicated and he didn't bat an eye. He got past me again coming down past the Silverdale off-ramp and I sat behind him until he turned up Grovener off Grand Dr.

007XX

10th December 2007, 07:55

007XY may have something to say about that idea...:blink:

Like what? "sweet, can I join in???" come to mind :whistle: :laugh:(just kidding btw)

Justifying speed using GPS? It isn't "justifed" at all by saying that. If you are over, you are over. The method by which you thought you were under is no justification, but merely an excuse or reason why. It would not change the fact that the police could prove that you were over.

That's exactly what I thought...my ex boss had one in his car and kept on telling me to drive at the GPS speed, not the speedo, saying that the GPS was more accurate, and that it could be debated with the cops if caught...

Always thought it was half assed technic thatw as going to land me in trouble<_<

Coyote

10th December 2007, 08:01

Yeah I ALWAYS check my speed coming under there, too! I usually do between 105-109km/h, I try not to go over that.

Gasp! You use the 10k discretion?! You are a bad example :p

deanohit

10th December 2007, 08:02

That's exactly what I thought...my ex boss had one in his car and kept on telling me to drive at the GPS speed, not the speedo, saying that the GPS was more accurate, and that it could be debated with the cops if caught...
Always thought it was half assed technic that as going to land me in trouble<_<
Heck, you may as well just get a radar detector if your using a gps for speed.

Or just slow down a few kays.

jonbuoy

10th December 2007, 08:03

I would say take the east coast road instead but after screwing up the road surface they've now decided to make it an 80K zone :mad:

Jantar

10th December 2007, 08:10

GPS is probably the most accurate speed measurement device you can have, providing: It can see at least 4 satelites, it has a fast refresh rate, and the current log can be downloaded.

The more satellites and the better spread of satellites, the more accurate it will be. Less than 4, or a poor spread, and it cannot tell if you are changing altitude, and will then under read. A slow refresh rate will under read your speed when changing direction.

Then when you do get a ticket, you can download the current track log from the GPS and check that the cop's radar was correct.