Just how incestuous is KB?

[Drew]

I got to thinking the other night, when a mate was telling me about his ex brother in law losing his job due to a girl, and now he's with one of her mates. (That's all the detail I'll be giving about that.) It occured to me, that this is how it goes in a lot of circles, a guy or chick will have a go with many people from the circle they socialise in. Particularly round these pages.

A wee example is another mate of mines ex, has ended up with (however briefly), 2 or 3+++ from here, and another chick ended up doin something similar with some of the same dudes, this all happened in a matter of months. I dont have any problem with that kind of social behavour, we all do what we feel is right. So my question is best put like this, how many, (including current) partners of yours are ex partners of other people on here?

I can answer none, and although my lady was on kb before we got together, after two years she'd posted like...twice, so we did not meet through this site.

I'm not trying to judge or poke fun, just curious I guess.

[Riff Raff]

Ummm, aren't you forgetting someone Drew?

[Drew]

Ummm, aren't you forgetting someone Drew?

Nope, only joined after we started going out.

[Drew]

To be clear, I mean how many were an ex of someone on here before you hooked up.

[Finn]

Are there 3+ chicks on KB worth rooting? :shutup:

[Drew]

Are there 3+ chicks on KB worth rooting? :shutup:

Shit no, just one that I'll ever have anything to do with.

[Finn]

Shit no, just one that I'll ever have anything to do with.

Ever or never?

[Drew]

Ever or never?

Meaning, I'll be with mine forever.

[Finn]

Meaning, I'll be with mine forever.

Aw shucks... :crybaby::crybaby::crybaby:

There is a gentleman on KB.

[MotoGirl]

Meaning, I'll be with mine forever.

That's almost as good as a proposal. Let me get in first and say CONGRATS! :bleh:

[jrandom]

I've considered this question at length, and my conclusion was that in a social circle with a gender imbalance (as any motorcycling club or forum is bound to have) two things will always occur:

1. Single individuals will tend to partner up with others they meet in that group, and

2. The lower proportion of women (in this case) will mean that the likelihood, over time, of those women partnering up with more than one man from that group increases.

I don't think that (apart from some very notable exceptions, ahem) the actual rate of partner attrition and relationship timespan in such situations is likely to be any different to the norm. It's just that the network is rather small, and so one sees a lot of interconnections forming over time.

To anyone who finds that distasteful, I would say:

1. Good luck with your quest for a virgin girlfriend, and

2. In any case, wouldn't you rather know where she's been?

:D

[Drew]

I've considered this question at length, and my conclusion was that in a social circle with a gender imbalance (as any motorcycling club or forum is bound to have) two things will always occur:

1. Single individuals will tend to partner up with others they meet in that group, and

2. The lower proportion of women (in this case) will mean that the likelihood, over time, of those women partnering up with more than one man from that group increases.

I don't think that (apart from some very notable exceptions, ahem) the actual rate of partner attrition and relationship timespan in such situations is likely to be any different to the norm. It's just that the network is rather small, and so one sees a lot of interconnections forming over time.

To anyone who finds that distasteful, I would say:

1. Good luck with your quest for a virgin girlfriend, and

2. In any case, wouldn't you rather know where she's been?

:D

Timespan is irrelivent.

It was recent events, coupled with my buddy telling about his brother in laws story that got me pondering, but I want to point out again I dont see a problem with it.

I just happen to know of a lot of relationships that have started on here, so figured I'd poll the group for the purpose of interesting social studies while waiting for TRTNR to get underway.

[oldrider]

Are there 3+ chicks on KB worth rooting? :shutup:

All women are worth it, what makes it debatable is, time, place and opportunity!

The adage, "A standing prick has no conscience" springs to mind. :whistle: John.

[jrandom]

I just happen to know of a lot of relationships that have started on here...

True.

Maybe we need to expand the definition of this (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=35) forum?

:innocent:

[Drew]

All women are worth it, what makes it debatable is, time, place and opportunity!

The adage, "A standing prick has no conscience" springs to mind. :whistle: John.

If you ask any guy or girl that lost someone because of an easy one night thing for shits and giggles, if it was worth it, most will say no I'd think.

I cant be sure tho, it is not an opinion based on personal experience.

Flip side could be that a lot of people have/are/do stay with partners who cheat. Read into it what you will.

I have only cheated once, and the fact I did it made me see I shouldn't be there so I left.

[Str8 Jacket]

Well me and my man met outside of KB and were mates for awhile before we became a couple. Although we were both KBers at the time and hung out with other KBers as well, we never met through any events organised through KB. BUT me and my ex met through KB.....I think I have confused myself?! Does that make it 1 or 2?

[Drew]

Well me and my man met outside of KB and were mates for awhile before we became a couple. Although we were both KBers at the time and hung out with other KBers as well we never met through any events organised through KB. I think I have confused myself?!

You're answering the wrong question, I wasn't asking if your partner is a kb mamber, rather how many of your partners were with other kbers before you came along.

The implication being that we are all with the love of our lives, and wont need to trawl the pages of here looking for another.

[007XX]

None like you Drew...and for very similar reasons. 007XY was on KB before he met me, and I knew nothing of KB. He had a beautiful 3 posts to his name til I dragged him in it! :laugh:

It's an interesting question though, and not for the gossip (which I'm definitely notinterested in), but more from a sociology point of view.

Hubby have been in a group of friends (about 30 odd people roughly), who have known each other since they were kids, and are now in their mid to late thirties. Listening to them recount life's stories, it would seem that every single one of them, at one point or another, had some sort of sexual interaction with another member of that group, and sometimes, even more than one over a span of a few years...:confused: <_<

Hubby and I have given up trying to make a complete and accurate "family tree" of this lovely bunch...

Don't get me wrong, they are all fantastic people, and we count them as friends, but as far as we're concerned: You don't shag the crew!

That's our opinion, we're not criticising anyone who does this btw...Live and let live I reckon!

[Str8 Jacket]

You're answering the wrong question, I wasn't asking if your partner is a kb mamber, rather how many of your partners were with other kbers before you came along.

The implication being that we are all with the love of our lives, and wont need to trawl the pages of here looking for another.

Ahh I seee.... my ex was with at least 1 other KBer before me.... Happy now? :p

[Drew]

Well me and my man met outside of KB and were mates for awhile before we became a couple. Although we were both KBers at the time and hung out with other KBers as well, we never met through any events organised through KB. BUT me and my ex met through KB.....I think I have confused myself?! Does that make it 1 or 2?
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[jrandom]

You don't shag the crew!

As asserted very sincerely by many, right up until the point that they're lonely and horny and presented with an opportunity to break the rule.

:lol:

Anyway, define 'crew'.

Are you saying that one shouldn't enter into sexual relationships with people whom one already knows well? Sounds pretty back-arsewards to me.

[Drew]

:lol:

Anyway, define 'crew'.

Are you saying that one shouldn't enter into sexual relationships with people whom one already knows well? Sounds pretty back-arsewards to me.

Na, that would mean hardly anybody would ever hook up in this country, since dating goes out the window and we shag a person from our circle, or a complete stranger the first time we meet them.

[jrandom]

Na, that would mean hardly anybody would ever hook up in this country, since dating goes out the window and we shag a person from our circle, or a complete stranger the first time we meet them.

That does seem to be how things often go these days, doesn't it?

Personally, I'm all about a reasonable period of dating and talking before entering into a sexual relationship. Even just a few weeks of intensive communication can teach you a lot about a person, and about whether they're someone you should go there with.

Nothing worse than shagging someone, realising you don't particularly enjoy their company, and then being in the awkward position where going no further requires blushes and mutterings along the lines of "well, we're not really breaking up, you know, because there was nothing much there in the first place..."

Ouch.

Anyway, when it comes to 'screwing the crew', I'd hypothesise that if it happens, it's because the people were attracted to each other in the first place. Why pretend that social interaction is platonic when it's patently not?

[007XX]

As asserted very sincerely by many, right up until the point that they're lonely and horny and presented with an opportunity to break the rule.

:lol:

Anyway, define 'crew'.

Are you saying that one shouldn't enter into sexual relationships with people whom one already knows well? Sounds pretty back-arsewards to me.

Mmmmm...been lonely and horny before, but never found a friend attractive in that way, sorry!

And I am notsaying it is either good or bad, or passing a judgement on it...what I said was: Neil and I don't believe in having relations with people we have as friends. Simple and straight forward. I guess we always saw people in two black and white categories : friends or potencial partners.

*And what you do with your back arse is yours, and yours alone my friend!* :laugh:

[Drew]

That does seem to be how things often go these days, doesn't it?

Personally, I'm all about a reasonable period of dating and talking before entering into a sexual relationship. Even just a few weeks of intensive communication can teach you a lot about a person, and about whether they're someone you should go there with.

Nothing worse than shagging someone, realising you don't particularly enjoy their company, and then being in the awkward position where going no further requires blushes and mutterings along the lines of "well, we're not really breaking up, you know, because there was nothing much there in the first place..."

Ouch.

Anyway, when it comes to 'screwing the crew', I'd hypothesise that if it happens, it's because the people were attracted to each other in the first place. Why pretend that social interaction is platonic when it's patently not?

Your method is just as flawed as the scenario I put forward. In those first three weeks or however long, both parties are caught up in the other to the point that they "lead with thier best foot," and no way can anyone form a true opinion of another when some things and opinions are being omited.

[jrandom]

I guess we always saw people in two black and white categories : friends or potencial partners.

You did.

He nodded and went along with the idea (http://www.laddertheory.com/).

Yes, I know I'm dreadfully, terribly wrong, and that you know him far better than I ever will.

;)

[jrandom]

Your method is just as flawed as the scenario I put forward. In those first three weeks or however long, both parties are caught up in the other to the point that they "lead with thier best foot," and no way can anyone form a true opinion of another when some things and opinions are being omited.

Of course.

However, I'd say that the 'honeymoon period' of presenting oneself in the best light possible can last six to twelve months. Are you suggesting that one refrain from sex with a new (potential) partner for that long?

[DMNTD]

Of course.

However, I'd say that the 'honeymoon period' of presenting oneself in the best light possible can last six to twelve months. Are you suggesting that one refrain from sex with a new (potential) partner for that long?

Oh fark that! I was a cunt right from the start!

[007XX]

You did.

He nodded and went along with the idea (http://www.laddertheory.com/).

Yes, I know I'm dreadfully, terribly wrong, and that you know him far better than I ever will.

;)

:rofl: :rofl:

I wish!!!! What is true is that I knew from the start he was the one for me...yeah, yeah I know...:p It took him a little longer to see that as well. And I guess I'd be wating my breath trying to convince you that he came to that conclusion all by himself, eh? :bleh:

But I do agree with you wholeheartedly in regards to talking to someone for some time before getting into anymore action...Especially if you are serious about relationships on a whole.

[Drew]

Of course.

However, I'd say that the 'honeymoon period' of presenting oneself in the best light possible can last six to twelve months. Are you suggesting that one refrain from sex with a new (potential) partner for that long?

Shit no, I fully agree that people will often not be themselves for up to a year, and longer, and that is no reason to abstain.

It was just a social observation, not at all something to change someones habbits for.

[oldrider]

If you ask any guy or girl that lost someone because of an easy one night thing for shits and giggles, if it was worth it, most will say no I'd think.

I cant be sure tho, it is not an opinion based on personal experience.

Flip side could be that a lot of people have/are/do stay with partners who cheat. Read into it what you will.

I have only cheated once, and the fact I did it made me see I shouldn't be there so I left.

Reading my post again with yours Drew, I see that in my attempt to counter Finn's (flippant?) devaluation of KB women, I have painted a false self portrait!

Oh well, suffice to say, Mrs O and I have weathered the storms of 44 yrs and were still best mates. (most of the time)

Another adage "It doesn't matter where you get your appetite, so long as you eat at home" springs to mind!

Myself I call it the "used car syndrome", you only focus on all the faults of your old one when you are checking out the new one. :doh: John.

[Drew]

Another adage "It doesn't matter where you get your appetite, so long as you eat at home" springs to mind!



Na man, that's way off by my way of thinkin.

Easiest way to make my point... It sucks to think of a partner "checkin out" others, and yet loads of us brush it off as, just what gets done.

Took me finding the right girl to see all this, and in no way implys that I care in the slightest what floats the boat of others.

Most of the time we could all take the attitude...It doesn't affect me at all, so why should I care. But people are all hypocrits at one point or another.

PS, I'm not saying any of this to you directly, just used your post to start a rant.

[Skyryder]

All women are worth it, what makes it debatable is, time, place and opportunity!

The adage, "A standing prick has no conscience" springs to mind. :whistle: John.


Or to say the same thing another way. A springing cock can not stand a conscience:doh:

Skyryder

[Finn]

Reading my post again with yours Drew, I see that in my attempt to counter Finn's (flippant?) devaluation of KB women, I have painted a false self portrait!

There was method in my madness Oldrider. Women can't resist a challenge and I've already received several PM's with invitations trying to prove otherwise. You have a lot to learn grasshopper.

[Skyryder]

Reading my post again with yours Drew, I see that in my attempt to counter Finn's (flippant?) devaluation of KB women, I have painted a false self portrait!

Oh well, suffice to say, Mrs O and I have weathered the storms of 44 yrs and were still best mates. (most of the time)

Another adage "It doesn't matter where you get your appetite, so long as you eat at home" springs to mind!

Myself I call it the "used car syndrome", you only focus on all the faults of your old one when you are checking out the new one. :doh: John.

Words of wisdom.:clap:


Skyryder

[RantyDave]

Are there 3+ chicks on KB worth rooting? :shutup:
Be fair - when did he say chicks?

Dave

[Hitcher]

I love ambiguous polls. This is a classic. I know of at least three KBers who have hooked up with other KBers...

[oldrider]

There was method in my madness Oldrider. Women can't resist a challenge and I've already received several PM's with invitations trying to prove otherwise. You have a lot to learn grasshopper.

I have been waiting for the Knowledge economy to materialise, so that I can learn these sage things.

It seems I may be waiting for some time!

Meanwhile, I acknowledge your confession of madness. :lol: John.