New Ride Forever DVD

[madmal64]

Well I think its new!
I have just picked up the latest Kiwi Rider and its got a new DVD with it.
Even got good old pete (crashafromwayback) in it.
Has had a quick look here at work & looks like a great tool form honing the skills.
Totally different from the other ride forever dvd that works on group riding skills.
Big ups to the crew that will get this put to the masses with the mag. Well done & I look forward to watching it properly later on.

[Lucy]

I just did the same! Went to the garage for junk food and came away with the mag, and just watched the DVD. It was good, especially seeing as I had just been for a ride on the trusty GN. I liked the format of it, and the fact that it wasn't just watching 'perfect riders' show us how it is supposed to be done, but real people riding real roads.

[Pex Adams]

A guy at work came running to see me, saying that I have to watch crasher trying to pick a fight with some yobo in a cage - Now you just can't get that sort of entertainment everyday!!!:niceone:

[Transalper]

Just watched it, highly recommended viewing for new and experienced. I think it really could bring up a few things for a lot of riders including myself to think about.... if you're not to arrogant to think you're above it all.

[MyGSXF]

Just watched it, highly recommended viewing for new and experienced. I think it really could bring up a few things for a lot of riders including myself to think about.... if you're not to arrogant to think you're above it all.

Wanna bring it North when ya head up this way shortly???? :whistle:

[Transalper]

The Kiwi Rider mag that the DVD was included with only costs $10.
I'm pretty sure one of the other Nelson KBers will have it sooner or later. If they don't then I might see what I can do.

[Xaria]

Looks like something for me to pick up at the store tomorrow.

[madmal64]

Well I finally watched the whole thing.
Bloody interesting really. Great to see different riders of varying skill levels ride together and interstesting responses from the judging panel.
Petes comment was a classic. I have thought it plenty of times but never told a driver that through his window.
I think its a great dvd for all riders to watch.

[dipshit]

Petes comment was a classic. I have thought it plenty of times but never told a driver that through his window.
I think its a great dvd for all riders to watch.


Yes, plenty of examples of how not to ride a bike.

[Mully]

And Carolyn Taylor. With that seductive eyebrow.

F-F-F-F-F-F

[merv]

And Carolyn Taylor. With that seductive eyebrow.


Just watched mine (seeing I'm a KR subscriber got it in the mail) and yep she made the DVD all worthwhile along with seeing Pete on a Honda. http://tvnz.co.nz/view/page/434905/982246

Aaron will be pleased too because he became a world champion on this DVD.

Certainly a few things to think about with it but I chuckled to think ACC put this together but at the end are all the disclaimers about what the judges said etc.

Did you notice KBer VXRider was one of the judges http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/member.php?u=9553 ?

[Crisis management]

I watched it last night and have to say I learnt something, mind you thats probably not that hard to do for me.....

I think it's a worthwhile effort with good pointers for all of us, the tricky bits going to be applying the knowledge!

[Mikkel]

Good DVD - certainly a lot of food for thought!

I loved when Aaron did the huggie - Dan certainly didn't like that! :)

[crashe]

Yeah I went out and brought the DVD and mag......
Have also watched it....... was great to spot the mistakes/error's when riding a bike.

Well done to all those involved in the making of this dvd.

Congrats to the winner of all the gear too.

The judges gave out some good pointers......

So it is worthwhile for all riders to watch it.


Shame crasher didn't ride the Harley around the track thou...... thats what I looked forward to seeing.......:weep:




Right now I suppose I should now go and read the magazine...

[Crasherfromwayback]

Just watched mine (seeing I'm a KR subscriber got it in the mail) and yep she made the DVD all worthwhile along with seeing Pete on a Honda. http://tvnz.co.nz/view/page/434905/982246

Aaron will be pleased too because he became a world champion on this DVD.

Certainly a few things to think about with it but I chuckled to think ACC put this together but at the end are all the disclaimers about what the judges said etc.

Did you notice KBer VXRider was one of the judges http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/member.php?u=9553 ?

I chuckled at the irony of me having only just come off ACC after my nasty Wanganui biff only to be paid by them to help this film about motorcycle safety! And as a footnote...I'll ride anything for $700 a day. I'd pay $700 dollars to ride...opps..never mind.


Yeah I went out and brought the DVD and mag......
Have also watched it....... was great to spot the mistakes/error's when riding a bike.

Well done to all those involved in the making of this dvd.

Congrats to the winner of all the gear too.

The judges gave out some good pointers......

So it is worthwhile for all riders to watch it.


Shame crasher didn't ride the Harley around the track thou...... thats what I looked forward to seeing.......:weep:




Right now I suppose I should now go and read the magazine...

I would've happily ridden the Harley there...but because of Aarrons connection with Honda...it was Hondas all the way.

No shop mentioned, as it could've been an honest mistake...but the VTR 1000 they originally made me ride felt really scary even before I'd reached the first corner. I went straight back in and asked one of the crew to go to a servo and check the tyre pressures. It had 62 psi in the front...and 48 psi in the rear! I asked them if they really did want the thing taken back to them in a wheelbarrow. I can crash perfectly well WITHOUT outside help.

As you were!

And merry X-mas everyone!

Pete:spanking:

[NighthawkNZ]

Yeah I watched the DVD as well... interesting... but I wouldn't say highly recommended viewing... It had a few good tips and interesting points thats really about it. I was actually disapointed.... I didn't really learn or pick up on anything new, all the suggestions they did have I been using since I started riding. The bit that I did find interesting is the filtering and riding in traffic, how even the more experienced guys made simple errors in judgement... and moves that wouldn't have done... especially with a camera rolling... but thats just me and probably one of the reasons I am still riding 23 odd years on.

However, probably more recommended for newer riders.

The main trick is to be thinking ahead, and expecting the unexpected... and yes ride as if every other bugger on the road is out to get you including other bikers. Emergency advoidance is just as important as emergency stopping... (if not more so)

[Crasherfromwayback]

Yeah I watched the DVD as well... interesting... but I wouldn't say highly recommended viewing... It had a few good tips and interesting points thats really about it. I was actually disapointed.... I didn't really learn or pick up on anything new. The bit that I did find interesting is the filtering and riding in traffic, how even the more experienced guys made simple errors in judgement

However, probably more recommended for newer riders.

For the record...we were pretty much told what to do...and when. The 'filtering' bit we had trouble with. We were running out of light...and as unusual as it may sound...we were really struggling to find a set of lights in Wellington during rush hour that was banked up! (That's right you Auckland suckers). But...if you're referring to my swerving at crawling speed...shit...I'll continue to do so rather than risk the chance of getting caught up between two lanes if I'm the second bike in line.

[SwanTiger]

For the record...we were pretty much told what to do...and when. The 'filtering' bit we had trouble with. We were running out of light...and as unusual as it may sound...we were really struggling to find a set of lights in Wellington during rush hour that was banked up! (That's right you Auckland suckers). But...if you're referring to my swerving at crawling speed...shit...I'll continue to do so rather than risk the chance of getting caught up between two lanes if I'm the second bike in line.

Did you meet the O'donnell (spelling?) judge from Trade Me motoring?

He came accross as a self serving attention whore.

Am I wrong for thinking that?

[Crasherfromwayback]

Did you meet the O'donnell (spelling?) judge from Trade Me motoring?

He came accross as a self serving attention whore.

Am I wrong for thinking that?

Yep. I'd like to answer that question here in public. Mike O'Donnell is one of THE nicest guys you'll ever meet mate. And I don't say that because he said nice things about me on the dvd. He's an incredibly level headed genuine guy.
Hugely clever too. As I said in an earlier post...we were ALL pretty much hand cuffed by ACC...and the filmers of the dvd. If we weren't...you would've REALLY loved the 'road rage bit'!

[SwanTiger]

Yep. I'd like to answer that question here in public. Mike O'Donnell is one of THE nicest guys you'll ever meet mate. And I don't say that because he said nice things about me on the dvd. He's an incredibly level headed genuine guy.
Hugely clever too. As I said in an earlier post...we were ALL pretty much hand cuffed by ACC...and the filmers of the dvd. If we weren't...you would've REALLY loved the 'road rage bit'!
Thanks for replying.

It just seemed really strange that he had the lime light a lot of the time, I don't know whether that was intentional on the producers part or something to do with him. I would of expected the bikey cop to have been the 'stronger voice' so to speak.

ACC aye! Trying to funnel bullshit into our minds...

[Transalper]

It doesn't matter if they made you do shit for the camera, most the time video has to be composed to work.
The DVD still had a heap of useful things it points out and yes is of course it is going to be more useful to new riders than old ones who have hopefully worked out the good stuff already for themselves, but for $10 with a magizene it's still got to be worth a look by everyone.

[NighthawkNZ]

but for $10 with a magizene it's still got to be worth a look by everyone.

:) ok I'll give you that :-) I would like to add that its also probably a good reminder to us more experienced riders as...


For the record...we were pretty much told what to do..
In a way that makes it worse, makes it look as if, the bikers had no consideration for the pedestrian (not that he was told to do that) but, the road rage, the filtering etc... makes it look like all bikers do and ride like that... (even experienced bikers) when we don't.

Though I understand where the video makers are coming from... got to have some stuff ups else what would the judges have to say... :scratch: :lol:


I'll continue to do so rather than risk the chance of getting caught up between two lanes if I'm the second bike in line.Interesting you say this... if its not a clear lane ahead or a chance of not finding a gap... don't filter, be patient, simple... something a lot of bikers need I think...

Just my point of view though... :crazy:

[Big Dave]

We still have half a quantity of the DVD's available.

Contact Julie

admin@kiwirider.co.nz

for the hows's.

[Mully]

We still have half a quantity of the DVD's available.

Contact Julie

admin@kiwirider.co.nz

for the hows's.

Can Julie give me Carolyn's phone number??

[SwanTiger]

Can Julie give me Carolyn's phone number??

(09) 373 7599 ext. 7711


:buggerd:

[fergie]

i enjoyed the on the road footage, easy to get into bad habits, iv'e been riding close to 35 years. but would not say im an expert rider.i did however learn from the dvd
I was impressed by the sound quality of the intercoms, no apparent wind noise.

[MSTRS]

I admit that I cheated and got a free one through Ride for Ever...
I watched it and mostly cringed at the treacly comments, the inane 'banter' and the glaringly obvious 'set ups'. I found the comments on how to ride a 250 when overtaking to be utter tripe, and Aaron's description of steering to be totally opposite to reality...try 'steering' right at 100kph and see where you go, and why would he essentially deny that countersteering exists?
Reluctantly, I'll agree there was some good visual pointers to roadcraft (the 250 taking the wrong line on the 'takas, and pointing out hazards for the following riders).
For the experienced rider, there is little in the DVD to be commended, and for the newbie some advice may be confusing.
At least someone has made an attempt to promote safer riding, so I give it 6/10.

[Aa7]

<snip> and Aaron's description of steering to be totally opposite to reality...try 'steering' right at 100kph and see where you go, and why would he essentially deny that countersteering exists?
<snip>
At least someone has made an attempt to promote safer riding, so I give it 6/10.

ahahah yeah that was what i was thinking when he mentioned that countersteering is a myth :lol: that aside, hopefully it will make an impact on at least a few people and make for safer roads and riding. Big ups to ACC for that at least :niceone:

[dipshit]

I found the comments on how to ride a 250 when overtaking to be utter tripe

Why? Being in the right gear for quicker acceleration at the first instant a passing opportunity arises is good advice compared to the guy in the video pulling out and then dropping down a gear or two while slowly going past the drivers door.




and why would he essentially deny that countersteering exists?


His bikes are probably set up so light in the steering that he doesn't need to go pushing on the bars. Just looking at the corner and starting to lean in with his body would have his bikes rolling in. You don't need to consciously think of countersteering on a light steering bike. You steer them with your mind when looking at the line you want to take more than anything. Most street bikes are not set up that light in the steering as standard usually. So I can kind of understand his comments.

[NighthawkNZ]

Why? Being in the right gear for quicker acceleration at the first instant a passing opportunity arises is good advice compared to the guy in the video pulling out and then dropping down a gear or two while slowly going past the drivers door.


I would agree with that, thinking ahead, being in the right gear for that little bit of 250 acceration is good advise. The 250 doesn't have that instant on power of the big bikes, but keeping your speed up and revs up before you pass will help, takes a bit more for a 250 to wind up

[RiderInBlack]

Hell I even drop old "Roxanne" (CBR1000F) down a gear or too for passing (gets ya past nice a quick:whistle:).

[MSTRS]

Why? Being in the right gear for quicker acceleration at the first instant a passing opportunity arises is good advice compared to the guy in the video pulling out and then dropping down a gear or two while slowly going past the drivers door.





His bikes are probably set up so light in the steering that he doesn't need to go pushing on the bars. Just looking at the corner and starting to lean in with his body would have his bikes rolling in. You don't need to consciously think of countersteering on a light steering bike. You steer them with your mind when looking at the line you want to take more than anything. Most street bikes are not set up that light in the steering as standard usually. So I can kind of understand his comments.
Seemed to me from the video that the 250 rider sat a bit close to the car he was about to overtake, but he dropped it 1 (or 2) as he wound it on and pulled out. Their advice was a bit ambiguous but I understood it to be basically start your manouevre well in advance, get up to speed before you overtake. This means you have to get your timing spot on, or you'll be in trouble if that car does something you didn't expect, like speeding up in the passing lanes.

Sure, a race bike will handle different to a road bike, but we don't ride race set-ups on the road, do we?? I know what you are getting at re 'steering with your mind', The reality is we kinda do that anyway (look where you are going) but the physical component still has to happen, that is, a tweak on the bars. A push (however subtle) on the right sends you to the right. Slight says that's a myth.

[Transalper]

Slighty might say it's a bit of a myth to him but that's why the others are there, they all pipe up and argue their side of it too, so seems to me that so long as you listen to all the opnions the DVD has it covered.