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Sully60

16th November 2007, 16:49

Not quite posters but two of my favourite pics and two of me back in the day.

Supermoto is such a cool way to ride. Especially if you have twisty roads and some offroad like Deanohits hood, I'm lucky to be in the Welly so there's plenty of both if you know where to find it.
Don't necessarliy need a Supermoto either if you get my drift.

Note: Shannon Johnson on the YZ (go the blue!!) knee down and (just) on one wheel!

deanohit

16th November 2007, 16:55

Awesome Sully, what did you ride?

Damn, "you must spread some bling before giving it to Sully60 again".

Sully60

16th November 2007, 17:11

Awesome Sully, what did you ride?

Damn, "you must spread some bling before giving it to Sully60 again".

Why that there machine was my Y Zee Four Twenty Six, booyy.

I was riding back when it really started to take off in Unzud (2001-02). Lucky to have access to a bike like that becuse of my job I was mmmmmmmmm.
(sorry gotta stop that Yoda thing):shutup:

Anyways I gotta go see my mum so I'll post some more pics later.

Here's a few old Kaitoke Kart Track shots to tide you over....sorry #1 is GM carpark
Though #3 is a bit of a stretch:oi-grr:

deanohit

16th November 2007, 17:16

Cool, looking forward to more pics.

I'll get me a proper set up motard one day, in the mean time I'll just treat my trail bike like one, just starting to slide the rear a weeeeee bit now I got rid of the knobblie!

Grumpy

16th November 2007, 17:51

This is one of my favourites.

Supermoto Junkie

16th November 2007, 19:07

wahoo...as supermoto thread.....bling for you Deano

i'll resize a few pics and load them up....

deanohit

16th November 2007, 19:28

Taken off Thumpertalk, a Kevlar/Carbonfiber Husky, not sure which model.:clap:
He made something like 15 panels, what an awesome DIY winter project!

deanohit

16th November 2007, 19:30

The rest of the pics:

deanohit

16th November 2007, 19:31

This is one of my favourites.

Yea, thats a great shot, I love this poster of the Hypermotard:

Supermoto Junkie

16th November 2007, 19:32

Taken off Thumpertalk, a Kevlar/Carbonfiber Husky, not sure which model.:clap:
He made something like 15 panels, what an awesome DIY winter project!

Love the wheels

Supermoto Junkie

16th November 2007, 19:37

Here is a few hot XR650s....i found these pics on the net when i was building mine and loved the CRF shrouds

76791

76792

76793

deanohit

16th November 2007, 19:38

Awesome, cheers for those mate!

Supermoto Junkie

16th November 2007, 19:40

Love these wheels

76794

76795

deanohit

16th November 2007, 19:43

Hell yea, I'm loving the black plastics on there!

Supermoto Junkie

16th November 2007, 19:44

Here are few wallpapers, the first one i put a few words on

76796

76797

76798

Coyote

16th November 2007, 19:47

Taken off Thumpertalk, a Kevlar/Carbonfiber Husky, not sure which model.:clap:
He made something like 15 panels, what an awesome DIY winter project!
There's an awesome NOX Husky that's been sitting at the local bike store (my work) for ages now. I got the job there just so I could look at it :p I semi know the guy who owns it (being sold on behalf), I've been thinking of getting a loan for it if I could knock the price down below $10,000. Just need some people to influence me into doing so.

Hint hint

Supermoto Junkie

16th November 2007, 19:53

This is a friends scoot from the UK............i'd give my left nut to have it in my shed

76800

76801

76802

Supermoto Junkie

16th November 2007, 19:55

There's an awesome NOX Husky that's been sitting at the local bike store (my work) for ages now. I got the job there just so I could look at it :p I semi know the guy who owns it (being sold on behalf), I've been thinking of getting a loan for it if I could knock the price down below $10,000. Just need some people to influence me into doing so.

Hint hint

DO IT, DO IT, Stop thinking and DO IT

There is/was a new NOX on trade me that was still in the box....$20k

Coyote

16th November 2007, 20:03

DO IT, DO IT, Stop thinking and DO IT

There is/was a new NOX on trade me that was still in the box....$20k
Unfortunatly, I don't have the luxury of not thinking.* I'm still working an afterschool job for shit pay and still have to deal to the VFR. But if I get more hours (since I've finished school) I'll have to ask the boss if a bit of my pay each week could go towards it...

This one has been sitting around for a year and a half with a 13k price tag. The dude that owns it said he's pretty keen to move it and has thought about bringing the price down, though I haven't seen the price tag get any smaller. Chances are if I seriously asked about it it would be cheaper, maybe even cheaper if I stuck several Maidstone Yamaha stickers over it and went racing :p

*mind you, I thought long and hard about getting a VFR400 due to many reasons. Cheaper than anything else I wanted, cheaper insurance for someone my age, etc. But that screwed me over. Maybe not thinking is the way to go... I didn't think when I bidded on my minimotos, and they ended up being the best $300 I've spent

Supermoto Junkie

16th November 2007, 20:09

Unfortunatly, I don't have the luxury of not thinking.* I'm still working an afterschool job for shit pay and still have to deal to the VFR. But if I get more hours (since I've finished school) I'll have to ask the boss if a bit of my pay each week could go towards it...

This one has been sitting around for a year and a half with a 13k price tag. The dude that owns it said he's pretty keen to move it and has thought about bringing the price down, though I haven't seen the price tag get any smaller. Chances are if I seriously asked about it it would be cheaper, maybe even cheaper if I stuck several Maidstone Yamaha stickers over it and went racing :p

*mind you, I thought long and hard about getting a VFR400 due to many reasons. Cheaper than anything else I wanted, cheaper insurance for someone my age, etc. But that screwed me over. Maybe not thinking is the way to go... I didn't think when I bidded on my minimotos, and they ended up being the best $300 I've spent

Mate....if money is tight, there are plenty of Motards around for 5 and 6 grand that will do you well, I picked up my latest (03 KTM 660smc a few months for $6k, check my profile for a pic

Supermoto Junkie

16th November 2007, 20:13

Hell yea, I'm loving the black plastics on there!

Hey deano, love the videos on you tube, bling to you, what were you riding on the tarmac?

deanohit

16th November 2007, 20:37

Thats my mighty Zongshen 200GY with a half knobbly on the front and a pirelli MT-90 on the back, not the fastest, but a hell of ALOT of fun!
Just starting to try and slide the rear a weeeee bit, damn it's awesome fun, and if I do drop it, so what, it was cheap.
Pic was from a while back, it's a heap dirtier at the mo.

Supermoto Junkie

16th November 2007, 20:42

Supermoto Junkie

16th November 2007, 20:43

orangeback

16th November 2007, 20:45

There's an awesome NOX Husky that's been sitting at the local bike store (my work) for ages now. I got the job there just so I could look at it :p I semi know the guy who owns it (being sold on behalf), I've been thinking of getting a loan for it if I could knock the price down below $10,000. Just need some people to influence me into doing so.

Hint hint

a nox for under 10g , jump in to it , i would have bought it if i hadnt just finished spending $12,500 on a road leagel WR:wari::wari::wari:
is it this one http://www.supermotard.co.nz/for-sale.html

Supermoto Junkie

16th November 2007, 20:49

a nox for under 10g , jump in to it , i would have bought it if i hadnt just finished spending $12,500 on a road leagel WR:wari::wari::wari:

Another tarded WR.......welcome to the dark side.....:clap:

deanohit

16th November 2007, 21:10

Sliding it in is a hell of a lot of fun, and is you do drop it (on a motard) you can just pick it up and try again....

BTW lovin' the blackness

Cheers man, just need some hand guards and it'll be sorted.
The black is a rattle can job to hide the ugly original blue and white plastics, looks nice from a far, but is far from nice!:doh:

Sully60

16th November 2007, 21:54

Cheers man, just need some hand guards and it'll be sorted.
The black is a rattle can job to hide the ugly original blue and white plastics, looks nice from a far, but is far from nice!:doh:

What a legend Machine!:niceone:
Spraycan paint jobs rock, I swear by them

I love the headlight guard, it gives it an aire of militaria:2guns:

Have you gotten into the compression slide, backing in moves yet?

Just a couple of old pics for da mix!

And yes that is me on the ground.:doh:

Sam I Am

16th November 2007, 22:44

Hmm all thoes photos are wicked ...
I just finished the next stage on my XR650 and it is begining to rock...
not i just need to learn how to ride it properly..... perhaps i just need bigger balls ?

deanohit

17th November 2007, 06:36

Nice bike Sam, thats looking real mean!

And Sully, I'm using the rear brake to slow the rear wheel to slide as just chopping down the gears, the compression tends to lock the back quite abruptly.
Alot of fun trying anyway!

Some cool SXV550 pics, I love the sound of a V-twin in a motard:

Coyote

17th November 2007, 08:09

Mate....if money is tight, there are plenty of Motards around for 5 and 6 grand that will do you well, I picked up my latest (03 KTM 660smc a few months for $6k, check my profile for a pic
Shit, you got that for $6000?! That's not bad at all

What are some of the best bikes to look for? XR650? DRZ400? I'm pretty keen on the light, MX based 450's, 510/525's and CR/KX500's but the impression I've got with them is I'll have to do the piston and rings very often if I used them on the road. Is that true?

Coyote

17th November 2007, 08:10

a nox for under 10g , jump in to it , i would have bought it if i hadnt just finished spending $12,500 on a road leagel WR:wari::wari::wari:
is it this one http://www.supermotard.co.nz/for-sale.html
Yeah, it's the one with the massive 'sold' in it's description. Funny that, since it's had that on their supermotard site for ages now but it hasn't disappeared

Supermoto Junkie

17th November 2007, 08:34

Hmm all thoes photos are wicked ...
I just finished the next stage on my XR650 and it is begining to rock...
not i just need to learn how to ride it properly..... perhaps i just need bigger balls ?

thats a sweet piece of kit Sam, Black rims look sick.... i've had a few 650s, they are the reason i got into supermoto, let me know when its on the road and we'll have to hook up for some motard action

Supermoto Junkie

17th November 2007, 08:43

Shit, you got that for $6000?! That's not bad at all

What are some of the best bikes to look for? XR650? DRZ400? I'm pretty keen on the light, MX based 450's, 510/525's and CR/KX500's but the impression I've got with them is I'll have to do the piston and rings very often if I used them on the road. Is that true?

I have a bit of a soft spot for the XR650s, but i think any of the enduro types are pretty good,i have a mate with a DRZ sm and he loves it, reliable as, the WRs make a cool tard also,

there is a XR650 sm on Trade me at the moment, i had a look at it at Wild west honda, its little rough around the edges but has lots of good gear on it, the guy will take $6500...good buy

Sully60

17th November 2007, 09:04

but the impression I've got with them is I'll have to do the piston and rings very often if I used them on the road. Is that true?

You will have to do this in terms of keeping the thing running it's best. The 450MX'rs service intervals are based on Tim Ferry or Ricky Carmichael revvin the snot out them racing at the top level for big money.

But in the real world like were we live this just isn't practicle or affordable.

I run my trusty old YZ for about 18 months before I freshened it up. It was a bit overdue I must say, but the thing was still going good and never missed a beat. That thing took a hiding and just never let me down.

If you are going to do a lot of road riding do go for something bigger like an XR or a bigger KTM. They don'tr generally have that much better performance than a 450MXr but they'll have longer service intervals.

Having ridden a few different Motards both converted MX'rs and production Eurotards including the very NOX mentioned earlier I can say the you will not find a more focused and "tight" bike than that. I'ts a serious piece of kit and with some set up and seat time will be a real weapon if you wanted to race. And saying that if you were mainly using it on the road you'd probably get better value from an XR or WR. At least you can put the standard wheels back on and hoon up Karapoti, you could do that with the NOX, but you wouldn't want to.

Good luck in your search and let us know how you go

deanohit

17th November 2007, 09:07

Does anyone have any more pics of this,
Kevin Schwantz (I think) DRZ450 kicking out over 60hp!

orangeback

17th November 2007, 09:21

Does anyone have any more pics of this,
Kevin Schwantz (I think) DRZ450 kicking out over 60hp!
no quite but some of the big boys motards , would like more of rossi one if anybody got them

Supermoto Junkie

17th November 2007, 09:32

You will have to do this in terms of keeping the thing running it's best. The 450MX'rs service intervals are based on Tim Ferry or Ricky Carmichael revvin the snot out them racing at the top level for big money.

But in the real world like were we live this just isn't practicle or affordable.

I run my trusty old YZ for about 18 months before I freshened it up. It was a bit overdue I must say, but the thing was still going good and never missed a beat. That thing took a hiding and just never let me down.

If you are going to do a lot of road riding do go for something bigger like an XR or a bigger KTM. They don'tr generally have that much better performance than a 450MXr but they'll have longer service intervals.

Having ridden a few different Motards both converted MX'rs and production Eurotards including the very NOX mentioned earlier I can say the you will not find a more focused and "tight" bike than that. I'ts a serious piece of kit and with some set up and seat time will be a real weapon if you wanted to race. And saying that if you were mainly using it on the road you'd probably get better value from an XR or WR. At least you can put the standard wheels back on and hoon up Karapoti, you could do that with the NOX, but you wouldn't want to.

Good luck in your search and let us know how you go

What he said:niceone:

deanohit

17th November 2007, 16:43

Heres a great vid, long, but the first 5mins is SM action with Pink Floyd.:headbang:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IV-lglM8GV8&eurl=http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=50896&page=5

Coyote

17th November 2007, 17:14

Supermoto Junkie

17th November 2007, 17:27

thats a sweet clip, nice enduro also

Supermoto Junkie

17th November 2007, 17:28

By the way, was that mates rates? Because all the LC4's I've seen around are pushing the $10000 mark

I found it on Trade me, a guy brought it but was too big for him and he couldn't get the hang of the left hand kick start,

kevfromcoro

17th November 2007, 17:30

Great thread......think that SM om tardme is gone
Bugga...had my eye on that

Supermoto Junkie

17th November 2007, 17:36

Great thread......think that SM om tardme is gone
Bugga...had my eye on that

That 650 was quite cool, had a 680cc kit in it, beringer brakes, arrow pipe and had a cool header pipe that went from the two exhuast port out and around each side of the engine and joined together by the rear shock, instead of the standard being both pipe run down the right hand side....i think some one had spent alot of money on it at some stage, would have been a good buy at $6.5k

kevfromcoro

17th November 2007, 17:40

Yeah rang the guy..and he said he wanted $7000 for it...still not bad buying
Got his no. in my cell.....might try him again...and see if its gone
Regards KEV

Supermoto Junkie

17th November 2007, 17:42

Yeah rang the guy..and he said he wanted $7000 for it...still not bad buying
Got his no. in my cell.....might try him again...and see if its gone
Regards KEV

I know he will take $6.5k when it comes down to it......don't ask how I know, but I do

Coyote

17th November 2007, 18:16

Coyote

17th November 2007, 18:18

This looks like a good buy: http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Dirt-bikes/auction-127488107.htm

Only problem is it isn't road legal, and probably looking at about a grand to legalise it (certification and vinning)

Supermoto Junkie

17th November 2007, 18:22

Got another question; does water cooling make a noticeable difference in performance eg. XR650 vs DR650? The summerfest pricing on the DR is pretty damn good, but I don't peticulary want something that's sluggish. Air cooling being an issue around town going between red lights would probably rule out that bike anyway

How quick is the DRZ400SM? A new one is at the top end of my theoretical budget but with a 24 month warranty spending a bit more wouldn't be such a bad idea, and insurance wouldn't be crippling since premiums are so high for someone my age. So they're a sensible idea, but I'm always more keen on the high performance bikes (like I'll always want a Fireblade over a Hornet, a bad habit for someone with low money) and the DRZ seems to me to be a farm bike in road racer clothing

All I can say is that I have spent quite a bit of time in the saddle of a DRZ400sm on the open road and around town and was impressed all round, not the most powerful beast on the road but a very reliable rig that could turn it on if pushed (on the road) i think they are a pretty good buy.....but in saying that I wouldn't go out and buy a new one, there are plenty of older ones around that are half the price.........if i was to buy new, it would be KTM or a WR

my $0.02 worth

Supermoto Junkie

17th November 2007, 18:23

deanohit

17th November 2007, 19:27

I'm looking at getting something like a DRZ400 next year Coyote.
I'm looking into whether to get the DRZ400E with some motard rims or the DRZ400SM and some offroad rims, but I've heard they're quite different machines.
I think it's the best machine for me though, able to do the local trails or do a bit of distance to other areas, while quite easily turned into a motard for a blast around the twisties.
I'm not worried about the differences in the suspension between trail and SM as anything is an improvement over what I have now.

inlinefour

17th November 2007, 20:23

How quick is the DRZ400SM?

I was not very impressed with it when I rode the stock standard bike. However I suppose that I was comparing it to a slightly tweaked enduro DRZ, which ran a fair bit harder. Reading this thread and checking out the pics is making me drool. I just wish I had found a set of rims for my DRZ before I had my MX off. I suspect it would not have taken me long to get addicted to SM and I had the v-twin Aprillia as the possible next new bike on the long term plan. Bloody awesome all.

Supermoto Junkie

17th November 2007, 20:45

I was not very impressed with it when I rode the stock standard bike. However I suppose that I was comparing it to a slightly tweaked enduro DRZ, which ran a fair bit harder. Reading this thread and checking out the pics is making me drool. I just wish I had found a set of rims for my DRZ before I had my MX off. I suspect it would not have taken me long to get addicted to SM and I had the v-twin Aprillia as the possible next new bike on the long term plan. Bloody awesome all.

I've never riden one of those Apriiia v twins in SM form, but would love to get the chance....(hint hint to anyone out there with one)

Ozzy27

17th November 2007, 21:07

http://sherco.hu/video/2007/tokol1.wmv:jerry:

Sully60

17th November 2007, 21:12

Got another question; does water cooling make a noticeable difference in performance eg. XR650 vs DR650? The summerfest pricing on the DR is pretty damn good, but I don't peticulary want something that's sluggish. Air cooling being an issue around town going between red lights would probably rule out that bike anyway

The liquid cooling allows everything in the engine to be built with smaller tolerances so you have the ability to tune an engine to perform better than the equivalent air cooled engine. So a road going version of either engine will tuned to achieve the beat performance based on the servive intervals allowed. So you'll ffind that CC for CC the wqater cooled engines will generally perform better.

An air cooled dirtbike engine is also designed to work hard at low speed with vitually no air moving around the engine ( stuck in a bog up at the back of the Orange hut) so around town will be no problem.
XR all the way bro! Don't get me wrongI like Suzuki's but DR650s are sluggish and heavy and consequently last forever.

How quick is the DRZ400SM? and the DRZ seems to me to be a farm bike in road racer clothing
Right on. The SM is detuned a bit for the road (compared to the dirt bike)thing but have plenty of potential.

Get in touch with Limbimtimwin he has an SM, if you speak to him nice he might let you have a go.

Probably a good place to start if you can make it work financially, though I must warn you you need to think about having money for the conmsumables because one you get the buzz you're fucked and will probably end up with a seat shaped recess in your ass from all the riding you've been doing and we all know what happens then.

orangeback

17th November 2007, 21:32

Supermoto Junkie

17th November 2007, 21:32

though I must warn you you need to think about having money for the conmsumables because one you get the buzz you're fucked and will probably end up with a seat shaped recess in your ass from all the riding you've been doing and we all know what happens then.

Good call Sully, I used to be a hard nosed sports bike rider (only 1000+cc bikes in the shed, must have full fairing blah blah blah).....until the day I rode a XR650sm......that was it sold everything and now only have Motards....

Yeah, yeah, i know, it's a sickness

Supermoto Junkie

17th November 2007, 21:36

buy a WR they are more lively than the rest , husky are verry hard to get parts for, this is a verry good set up for the money http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=127600688
good know how this is done on a drz , see pict

Thats a good buy for a "buy Now" of $7k...........could be convinced to look in to making some room in the shed for a WR

Sully60

17th November 2007, 22:05

Thats a good buy for a "buy Now" of $7k...........could be convinced to look in to making some room in the shed for a WR

Friggen Aye!

But only used the motard setup once? Whats up with that?

Pussy:baby:

Wubble you ars make good motards the short first and tall top gears come in handy and the bigger flywheel isn't necessarily a bad thing, just wind up the clickers a bit and go race!

Just a few I found goggling a ling. Lazy bugger But what the hay!

Eric Bostrom aye! E Boz obviously rocks the supermoto like his bro B Boz.
Shit that Motherf^*@er kicked all comers in the first X-Games supermoto by a country mile.:headbang:

deanohit

17th November 2007, 22:13

More pics: :banana:
I like the wheels on the blue DRZ!

Sully60

17th November 2007, 22:18

More pics: :banana:
I like the wheels on the blue DRZ!

Cool yes, but would you jump with those wheels?<_<

deanohit

17th November 2007, 22:20

Doesn't look like it's jumped too often with that tail pack on there. =)

oldguy

17th November 2007, 22:25

These are not posters, but some of the pics I took at Paeroa early this year. Check the guy who only has use of one arm.

Sully60

17th November 2007, 22:25

Doesn't look like it's jumped too often with that tail pack on there. =)

Good point!
Bends the rims a bit if you jump with mags:whistle: Even 4 foot drop offs cause good dings.
You gunna 17 up the ZongShen? Super slick stylely?

deanohit

17th November 2007, 22:30

Check the guy who only has use of one arm.

Cheers Oldguy, was there watching the racing, got huge respect for the guy racing with one arm, it's hard enough holding onto the bars with two, and he was far from last as well! :niceone:

And Sully, yea the mighty Zongshen will be gettin supermoto'd proper when I get a bigger bike, strip all the road gear off, 17" on the front, then bring on the bucket meets! :2thumbsup

Sully60

17th November 2007, 22:32

These are not posters, but some of the pics I took at Paeroa early this year. Check the guy who only has use of one arm.

Wicked pics oldguy! Bling on the way.

The first time I saw that guy at Wanganui I thought his clutch perch and lever had fallen off and he was holding it tucked into his groin. Duhhhhh! He goes good too!

Old Toby's got it cranked in pic 4 there, good shit!:clap:

oldguy

17th November 2007, 22:35

This thread has got me thinking, now how would the 350 go, put some USD forks
on see if I could get some 17's to fit, would be just for fun.

Sully60

17th November 2007, 22:38

And Sully, yea the mighty Zongshen will be gettin supermoto'd proper when I get a bigger bike, strip all the road gear off, 17" on the front, then bring on the bucket meets! :2thumbsup

Cool man! Watch out though, I was a complete supermoto freak and hooked up with the bucket guys to run at their meets, now I'm a complete bucket freak.:crazy:
Nothing wrong with that though!

deanohit

17th November 2007, 22:39

This thread has got me thinking, now how would the 350 go, put some USD forks
on see if I could get some 17's to fit, would be just for fun.

It's been done mate:

deanohit

17th November 2007, 22:40

Also my vid from Paeroa this year, was awesome to see, going to see the Nelson Port races next year :eek::
http://youtube.com/watch?v=vCSrct7jUDM

Sully60

17th November 2007, 22:43

This thread has got me thinking, now how would the 350 go, put some USD forks
on see if I could get some 17's to fit, would be just for fun.

As long as you didn't try racing on "proper tracks" pffft, you'll go good. Back when things started up in the Welly a dude was racing a KLX300 with Bridgestone Trailwings. That guy was hard to beat in the carparks and go cart tracks, especially if it rained.

oldguy

17th November 2007, 22:58

It's been done mate:Now that looks good:yes: Mine from its woodhill setup, to that would be cool.:niceone:

oldguy

17th November 2007, 23:09

As long as you didn't try racing on "proper tracks" pffft, you'll go good. Back when things started up in the Welly a dude was racing a KLX300 with Bridgestone Trailwings. That guy was hard to beat in the carparks and go cart tracks, especially if it rained.cheers, to old for the racing. more like trackdays for me, no worry if i bin on that, but the Buell, that would bring me to tears. Also be great to whip down to the local Dairy to grab some milk or bread, hehe

deanohit

17th November 2007, 23:19

Also be great to whip down to the local Dairy to grab some milk or bread, hehe

With just a few small wheelies and stoppies on the way. :bleh:

Coyote

18th November 2007, 11:17

And Sully, yea the mighty Zongshen will be gettin supermoto'd proper when I get a bigger bike, strip all the road gear off, 17" on the front, then bring on the bucket meets! :2thumbsup
I used to have a KX80 Motard that I took to the bucket meets. That was great fun. I'm pretty keen to get a KX500 of the same era (around 1995) cause I'd be just like having the old bike only bigger.

Then I got into road bikes since they were cheaper and at the time there was any road going motards I could afford (since I wanted to get my licence). Sportsbikes are great but I'd like to get back into motards, and definately want to race (can't have both a road bike and race bike in one with a sportsbike I've found...)

buy a WR they are more lively than the rest , husky are verry hard to get parts for, this is a verry good set up for the money http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=127600688
good know how this is done on a drz , see pict
I was expecting the 450's to be a bit more thrilling. A WR would be cool, though I wouldn't turn down a Husky or Gas Gas if I could afford it

Coyote

18th November 2007, 11:32

The liquid cooling allows everything in the engine to be built with smaller tolerances so you have the ability to tune an engine to perform better than the equivalent air cooled engine. So a road going version of either engine will tuned to achieve the beat performance based on the servive intervals allowed. So you'll ffind that CC for CC the water cooled engines will generally perform better.

An air cooled dirtbike engine is also designed to work hard at low speed with vitually no air moving around the engine ( stuck in a bog up at the back of the Orange hut) so around town will be no problem.
XR all the way bro! Don't get me wrongI like Suzuki's but DR650s are sluggish and heavy and consequently last forever.

Right on. The SM is detuned a bit for the road (compared to the dirt bike)thing but have plenty of potential.

Get in touch with Limbimtimwin he has an SM, if you speak to him nice he might let you have a go.

Probably a good place to start if you can make it work financially, though I must warn you you need to think about having money for the conmsumables because one you get the buzz you're fucked and will probably end up with a seat shaped recess in your ass from all the riding you've been doing and we all know what happens then.
I knew watercooled bikes were faster, just didn't know if it was by much when it came to singles.

That's good, maybe an old XR400 may not be such a bad idea just as a hack. Still want something nicer if I can manage.

Why is the SM be detuned? Can you 'retune' it?

Last bike of a mates I rode the bottom end blew on me (didn't expect that from a VTZ250) and it's a bit awkward between us now. Not too keen on test riding bikes except from dealers.

I'm still dreaming here since I can't afford anything right now. Luckily at the moment my parents are paying for insurance. I can only barely afford paying it off and paying for all it's other costs. But I despise my VFR and want to get something else for the road, something newish and reliable and probably from a dealer

deanohit

18th November 2007, 11:49

deanohit

18th November 2007, 14:09

Check this out, a proper supermoto track! :2thumbsup
http://youtube.com/watch?v=WZnW_UrulIc&feature=related

Coyote

18th November 2007, 17:06

Like Sully said, the watercooling allows engines to perform better.
The DRZ400 has the same amount of power as the DR650, but more maintenence as the 400 is working harder. Personally I would rather deal with the extra maintnence of the 400 than the extra weight of the 650.

The DRZ400SM is detuned to allow for the higher road usage and wear and tear you get from rgular riding to space out the sevices. Should be pretty easy to retune, maybe with bits from the DRZ400 off road bike. Or a 510cc big bore kit from Maxpower Engines (http://www.maxpower-engines.com/big-bore-kits/drz500-stealth.htm) for over 46HP at the back wheel.
I'd prefur light and nimble but more maintenence too, so a MX based bike would be fine

I saw the price for that kit and was thinking 'haha, no way, not at that price' but then I saw the dyno graph. Feck, it's near on double the power! Kinda puts me off a stock DRZ in the first place though, my RG had that kinda power at the wheel

Coyote

18th November 2007, 17:11

Check this out, a proper supermoto track! :2thumbsup

Haha, I've always wondered if they'd make tarmac jumps. Yes, they would. Love to give that a shot.

The berms are pretty wicked too

Supermoto Junkie

18th November 2007, 17:59

Check this out, a proper supermoto track! :2thumbsup
http://youtube.com/watch?v=WZnW_UrulIc&feature=related

How much fun would it be to have a track like that in the back yard......:clap:

deanohit

18th November 2007, 18:26

Hell yea, they're getting some serious air over that jump, bit hairy when those 2 riders touched, be a hard landing if you came off!

Macstar

18th November 2007, 18:41

I'd prefur light and nimble but more maintenence too, so a MX based bike would be fine

That's what I thought too, but man, I really need to learn more mechanical skills and get the right tools cause my KTM is costing me a small forturne in trying to convert it from a dirt bike & ride it as a Supermoto...!

In comparison to my 1000cc Suzuki which needs an oil change every 3-4000 km, it's pretty intense. But the KTM is soooooooooooooo much more fun, and even though it has an electric start I still like to kick it over, there's something manly about kick starting a bike (Tim-the-toolman Ooohhhuuuuuuu).

Sully60

18th November 2007, 18:48

I still like to kick it over, there's something manly about kick starting a bike (Tim-the-toolman Ooohhhuuuuuuu).

Right on!:niceone:
Ooohhhuuuuuuu!

Supermoto Junkie

18th November 2007, 19:22

here is a cool clip featuring one of the reason i got hooked on Supermoto

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ou_uYitIhs

sorry don't know how to show the Youtube screen in my post

deanohit

18th November 2007, 19:28

Damn those are some awesomely long wheelies! Bet he was having fun that day.

Supermoto Junkie

18th November 2007, 19:33

Here is another......usual USA rider, short sleeves and jeans, But does have gloves on, but still a nice mono, the sound is pretty crappy but still good

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drffSzIVEy4

deanohit

18th November 2007, 19:36

Nice one, I always thought this vid was pretty cool. Coyote, heres how easy it is to wheelie a DRZ400Sm. :cool:
Just gotta get past the guys annoying accent!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNQC_amZRJg&feature=related

EJK

18th November 2007, 19:36

That supermoto video is..... tempting..... lol

Hmmm..... :shifty: lololol

Coyote

18th November 2007, 19:39

That's what I thought too, but man, I really need to learn more mechanical skills and get the right tools cause my KTM is costing me a small forturne in trying to convert it from a dirt bike & ride it as a Supermoto...!

In comparison to my 1000cc Suzuki which needs an oil change every 3-4000 km, it's pretty intense. But the KTM is soooooooooooooo much more fun, and even though it has an electric start I still like to kick it over, there's something manly about kick starting a bike (Tim-the-toolman Ooohhhuuuuuuu).
So is the cost in converting it into a motard? Or the actual maintenence costs? I imagine the oil needs to get done more regulary? Reminds me, the VFR is about due...

Kick starting my old RG was fun, when it worked. And forgetting the killswitch was good exercise

Supermoto Junkie

18th November 2007, 19:40

Nice one, I always thought this vid was pretty cool. Coyote, heres how easy it is to wheelie a DRZ400Sm. :cool:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNQC_amZRJg&feature=related

Yeah, i like that clip, i like how the guy talks you through what the bike is then "how to wheelie", he has a bit of a dry sense of humour also, oh, and the wheelies are not bad either.:2thumbsup

orangeback

18th November 2007, 19:43

That supermoto video is..... tempting..... lol

Hmmm..... :shifty: lololol
give this a shot
and he dosn't fall off
look at the smoke comming of his boot

Supermoto Junkie

18th November 2007, 19:47

give this a shot
and he dosn't fall off
look at the smoke comming of his boot

Damn, thats a cool pic, i' would love to see the vidoe of that moment,:gob:

deanohit

18th November 2007, 19:49

Heck EJ, the Scorpio is basically a motard already, a single based on a dirt bike engine, 17" wheels, single discs front and rear, only difference is a low seat height!
So lets see ya riding it like a motard!
I showed you how to drift them on the grass, just didn't work out properly.

Coyote

18th November 2007, 19:54

Nice one, I always thought this vid was pretty cool. Coyote, heres how easy it is to wheelie a DRZ400Sm. :cool:
Just gotta get past the guys annoying accent!

Phff, still have to clutch it :p

I rode a WR450 from TSS before getting my VFR. It wheelied almost too easily, could see myself trying to explain to a cop 'I didn't mean to!'. The bike felt like a tractor though. I'm sure it would've been better if it hadn't had knobbies on and a stock muffler

deanohit

18th November 2007, 19:58

, could see myself trying to explain to a cop 'I didn't mean to!'.

Sounds like fun, theres a nice 07 WR450 on trademe at the mo, bloody lot of coin though! :sweatdrop
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=126610858

Macstar

18th November 2007, 21:11

So is the cost in converting it into a motard? Or the actual maintenence costs? I imagine the oil needs to get done more regulary? Reminds me, the VFR is about due...

Kick starting my old RG was fun, when it worked. And forgetting the killswitch was good exercise

Bit of both...

Digital speedo, 17inch wheels, rotor sprockets, indicators, mirror (road legal) etc etc about $1000 used.

Maintenance schedule is full on:

I try to do oil every 500km / filters 1000km
Valve clearances spose to be about every 1000km
Air filter clean / check 500-1000km
Spark plug 3000km
Fork oil 3000km

Engine rebuild 10000km? (if you're lucky...)
Carb rebuild approx 10000km (just doing at the mo)
Then usual stuff like chain and sprokets, brake fluids, radiator fluid, tyres etc.

This is a mixture of what is recommended by manufacturer and my own compensation for not really taking the bike off road and through mud etc. as I think dirt riding is a bit harsher on the bike.

Anyone else have a rough maintenance schedule for their supermoto?

Sully60

18th November 2007, 21:42

Anyone else have a rough maintenance schedule for their supermoto?

If its broke then fix it!:nono:

Seriously it all depends on what you do with it. I agree the off road environment is harsh but on riding the things flat out on the pavement (road or street racing) isn't exactly gentle either. Riding around on the road would probably be the easiest on the bike depending how restrained you can be and not wheelie and back them in whenever you can.
Racing around kart tracks, street races and circuits where you spend a considerable time with the trottle wide open I'd change the oil every two hours or two meetings.
And like you said if you go and do some proper off roading (you'd be surprised where you can go on a Supermoto even on street tyres) you may manage to get dirt or water in the oil so you have to be pretty carefull about changing the oil regularly there too.
I reckon no matter what you ride and how you ride it spend as much money as you can keeping fresh oil the engine!

The piston and ring interval thing is pretty obvious to most people but the thing I noticed when I pulled the Ol' YZ down (40-50 odd hours)was the state of the cam chain was pretty bad and had just started to wear away at the sprockets, could have been a lot more expensive if I'd left it longer.

One last motard specific thing and I don't have enough experience with "production" motards. But if you convert an MX'r keep an eye on the fork bushes. They just don't seem to be up to all the braking forces or constant cornering loads, or something I don't really know. It may be specific to Yamaha's but both my WR and YZ needed new fork bushes quite quickly. And when they get sloppy at best you fork seals weep at worst you wipe your visor off your helmet doing a face plant:doh:
:done:twice:Oops:

Sully60

18th November 2007, 21:44

give this a shot
and he dosn't fall off
look at the smoke comming of his boot

Are you sure about that?

Looks pretty fucked to me.

orangeback

19th November 2007, 05:48

you doubt me
i found it hard to belive
this was in uk mcn (more crap than news)

Sully60

19th November 2007, 06:16

you doubt me
i found it hard to belive
this was in uk mcn (more crap than news)

Well, you have proved me wrong, MCN pubilshes a lot of shit but they don't misreport things that have actually happened.

I imagine his heart rate was rather high on the exit of that corner!

deanohit

19th November 2007, 06:33

you doubt me
i found it hard to belive
this was in uk mcn (more crap than news)

Man, I bet he was straight into the pits for a fresh set of underwear! :crazy:
That is crazy how it didn't low side. :blink::clap:

Coyote

19th November 2007, 07:31

Bit of both...

Digital speedo, 17inch wheels, rotor sprockets, indicators, mirror (road legal) etc etc about $1000 used.

Maintenance schedule is full on:

I try to do oil every 500km / filters 1000km
Valve clearances spose to be about every 1000km
Air filter clean / check 500-1000km
Spark plug 3000km
Fork oil 3000km

Engine rebuild 10000km? (if you're lucky...)
Carb rebuild approx 10000km (just doing at the mo)
Then usual stuff like chain and sprokets, brake fluids, radiator fluid, tyres etc.

This is a mixture of what is recommended by manufacturer and my own compensation for not really taking the bike off road and through mud etc. as I think dirt riding is a bit harsher on the bike.

Anyone else have a rough maintenance schedule for their supermoto?
Shiiiiit

Don't think I could really afford to keep that up. Unless you've been getting cheaper oil? I'd be looking at doing the oil and air filter every second weekend!

I'll hopefully learn to do the maintenence for myself, I was capable of replacing the front disks on my VFR (which required taking the headers off to get a stand underneath the sump).

I'd definately need something else to commute on. Since I've burnt through the VFR's tyre so quickly I had thought about getting a scooter/moped to do the majority of my k's, looks like that'd be a good idea if I got a MX based motard too. An RD50 would be cool

I know about Motard conversion costs. Hopefully I'd get a Motard straight off rather than converting a dirt bike, though I wouldn't mind having a project. I've got a spare VFR400 swingarm...

This looks good as a hack: http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Dual-purpose/auction-127581141.htm
I've seen several of them on trademe going for cheap in the past. Might even be able to save up the cash and not deal with finance

Macstar

19th November 2007, 07:44

This looks good as a hack: http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Dual-purpose/auction-127581141.htm
I've seen several of them on trademe going for cheap in the past. Might even be able to save up the cash and not deal with finance

I test rode a lateish model DR350 thinking that could be my more reliable "hack" too. Even a 350 was absolutely gutless. Buttoning off and then ripping back the throttle in 1st or 2nd gear would hardly even take the load of the front forks... Basically a GN 250 with bigger wheels and a supposed extra 100cc

Coyote

19th November 2007, 07:54

I test rode a lateish model DR350 thinking that could be my more reliable "hack" too. Even a 350 was absolutely gutless. Buttoning off and then ripping back the throttle in 1st or 2nd gear would hardly even take the load of the front forks... Basically a GN 250 with bigger wheels and a supposed extra 100cc
This is a 2 Stroke Enduro rather than a 4 Stroke farm bike. Should still be good for wheelies. Just a thought anyway, I'd have to test ride it before making my mind up

Supermoto Junkie

19th November 2007, 08:13

If its broke then fix it!:nono:

Seriously it all depends on what you do with it. I agree the off road environment is harsh but on riding the things flat out on the pavement (road or street racing) isn't exactly gentle either. Riding around on the road would probably be the easiest on the bike depending how restrained you can be and not wheelie and back them in whenever you can.
Racing around kart tracks, street races and circuits where you spend a considerable time with the trottle wide open I'd change the oil every two hours or two meetings.
And like you said if you go and do some proper off roading (you'd be surprised where you can go on a Supermoto even on street tyres) you may manage to get dirt or water in the oil so you have to be pretty carefull about changing the oil regularly there too.
I reckon no matter what you ride and how you ride it spend as much money as you can keeping fresh oil the engine!

The piston and ring interval thing is pretty obvious to most people but the thing I noticed when I pulled the Ol' YZ down (40-50 odd hours)was the state of the cam chain was pretty bad and had just started to wear away at the sprockets, could have been a lot more expensive if I'd left it longer.

One last motard specific thing and I don't have enough experience with "production" motards. But if you convert an MX'r keep an eye on the fork bushes. They just don't seem to be up to all the braking forces or constant cornering loads, or something I don't really know. It may be specific to Yamaha's but both my WR and YZ needed new fork bushes quite quickly. And when they get sloppy at best you fork seals weep at worst you wipe your visor off your helmet doing a face plant:doh:
:done:twice:Oops:

I agree totaly Sully,

I have also found that the fork bushes in my XR650sm's would flog out quite quick (but they got a hell of alot of wheelie and stoppie action), also the steering head bearings didn't like the constant wheelies, I had to tighten them fairly often....but then again I am 125kg!!!

Supermoto Junkie

19th November 2007, 08:17

NordieBoy

19th November 2007, 08:18

Also my vid from Paeroa this year, was awesome to see, going to see the Nelson Port races next year :eek::
I'll be at Nelson with my camera and orange vest.

NordieBoy

19th November 2007, 08:20

NordieBoy

19th November 2007, 08:23

Haha, I've always wondered if they'd make tarmac jumps. Yes, they would. Love to give that a shot.

For all the Supermoto tracks in Europe they arn't allowed to have a jump that lands on tarmac if they want to be able to run races at the top level.

A few British tracks had to remove jumps because of that.

Coyote

19th November 2007, 08:27

For all the Supermoto tracks in Europe they arn't allowed to have a jump that lands on tarmac if they want to be able to run races at the top level.

A few British tracks had to remove jumps because of that.
Makes sense when you see the collision on the jump at the end of the clip.

Even so, as with most things, it would be great fun untill you got hurt

NordieBoy

19th November 2007, 08:28

Well, you have proved me wrong, MCN pubilshes a lot of shit but they don't misreport things that have actually happened.

I imagine his heart rate was rather high on the exit of that corner!

Just about any shot of Christian Iddon cornering is like that :D

Supermoto Junkie

19th November 2007, 08:34

For all the Supermoto tracks in Europe they arn't allowed to have a jump that lands on tarmac if they want to be able to run races at the top level.

A few British tracks had to remove jumps because of that.

I have a DVD of Thierry Van Den Bocsh playing on a works KTM around a test track with tarmac jumps, in the interveiw he talks about the rules being changed in europe for the teir one racing that outlaws tarmac jumps and landings, he thought is was probably a good idea as a ay to slow things down a bit...........damn he is fast

Supermoto Junkie

19th November 2007, 08:36

Just about any shot of Christian Iddon cornering is like that :D

he must go through crash bibbins like they are going out of fashion:niceone:

Supermoto Junkie

19th November 2007, 08:39

Just about any shot of Christian Iddon cornering is like that :D

Here is a very cool clip of Christian Iddon sliding a Apillia,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kw_PrqTlMbA

NordieBoy

19th November 2007, 08:52

2 of my faves...
Boris and Stephan Chambon

<img src=http://fran.nelson.geek.nz/motorbikes/motard/fougeres_Boris_s.JPG>

<img src=http://fran.nelson.geek.nz/motorbikes/motard/SChambon.jpg>

deanohit

19th November 2007, 09:15

haha, I love that second pic, now thats how you order a beer!

Heres a few pics of some sideways action: :2thumbsup

deanohit

19th November 2007, 09:21

And a very useful article I found on how to back it into a corner: :devil2:

deanohit

19th November 2007, 09:24

And heres how your supposed to exit a corner: :bleh:

Macstar

19th November 2007, 16:11

Shit mate.......was the $1k including spoke rims or alloys? either way i think i'll bring my next convertion to you to do, I end up dropping around 3 - 4k when i convert a bike to SM,

Nice work:clap:

Alloy wheels (& WOF-able tyres), couldn't afford the spokers, though a KTM set were up on TM recently for $1700... So anyway, I guess my bike is not technically a race-approved Supermoto cause I think you need to have the stronger spoked wheels for jumping? Ah well, still got the old wheels for jumping!

deanohit

19th November 2007, 16:40

Alloy wheels (& WOF-able tyres), couldn't afford the spokers,

Bet it's still a hell of alot of fun though mate! :clap:

Have you got some recent photos available for me to drool over?

Supermoto Junkie

19th November 2007, 17:51

Alloy wheels (& WOF-able tyres), couldn't afford the spokers, though a KTM set were up on TM recently for $1700... So anyway, I guess my bike is not technically a race-approved Supermoto cause I think you need to have the stronger spoked wheels for jumping? Ah well, still got the old wheels for jumping!

Alloy is still good for the street, still a huge improvement over a 19 and 21 inch wheels,

Bet it's still a hell of alot of fun though mate! :clap:

Have you got some recent photos available for me to drool over?

+1,

0arbreaka

19th November 2007, 18:00

I have decided my next bike will be a motard, looks like motards are a fuck load of fun to ride.

Supermoto Junkie

19th November 2007, 18:03

I have decided my next bike will be a motard, looks like motards are a fuck load of fun to ride.

Get the man a drink, he has seen the light........good to hear of another thinking joining the ranks:2thumbsup

Sully60

19th November 2007, 18:19

Get the man a drink, he has seen the light........good to hear of another thinking joining the ranks:2thumbsup

+1
I've done some sick things on motorcycles but I get the biggest buzz from motards and at relatively safe speeds. Doing 120 on a 1000cc sprotbike is f#*'n boring but on a motard you've already got your thrills by the time you get to the speed limit.
Some shit may be just as illegal :innocent: but as they say the faster you go the bigger the mess. or is it the bigger you go the faster the mess?

Motards Rule, Aiyee!

EJK

19th November 2007, 18:22

I have decided my next bike will be a motard, looks like motards are a fuck load of fun to ride.

Same thing here :headbang:
love the photo from Deanohit "How to exit a corner" :eek:

0arbreaka

19th November 2007, 18:24

Any particular ones you can recomend? Dont know when I'll get one, but I will be getting one.

Supermoto Junkie

19th November 2007, 18:24

+1
I've done some sick things on motorcycles but I get the biggest buzz rom motards and at relatively safe speeds. Doing 120 on a 1000cc sprotbike is f'n boring but on a motard you've already got your thrills by the time you get to the speed limit.
Some shit may be just as illegal :innocent: but as they say the faster you go the bigger the mess. or is it the bigger you go the faster the mess?

Motards Rule, Aiyee!

I very rearly ride with the guys i used to ride with back when i had 1000s, they all moan that I piss them off when i tootle along the straights at 110 and then leave them behind on the twisties, and just as you said Sully, you can have all the fun while doing 70 or 80 km, and when you bin it, you just pick it up and have another go

Supermoto Junkie

19th November 2007, 18:30

Any particular ones you can recomend? Dont know when I'll get one, but I will be getting one.

Depends on the budget, This is what I would (and have) buy
$7 - $8k, 03 KTM 660smc or 02ish XR650(sm)
$11 - $12k, 06ish WR450 (SM)
$15 - $16k KTM 660 SMC (twin Muffler)

Plus a few that have taken my fancy, Aprilla SXV, Husky NOX, KTM VDB works rep............ooooh baby

deanohit

19th November 2007, 18:33

Jeez guys, I'm stoked with how well this thread is going. Great to see everyone talking about the most fun bikes out there.

EJK

19th November 2007, 18:35

yeah, I'll just be on the tarmac tho lol

Supermoto Junkie

19th November 2007, 18:37

Jeez guys, I'm stoked with how well this thread is going. Great to see everyone talking about the most fun bikes out there.

We'll conquer the world some day:2thumbsup

EJK

19th November 2007, 18:39

I've heard that doing wheelies on a Motard is easier than normal road bikes..... Hmmmm... :shifty: lol

deanohit

19th November 2007, 18:40

yeah, I'll just be on the tarmac tho lol

Aww c'mon, you've seen how fun it is drifting on the grass! :bleh:
Just a bugger the camera crapped out.

I do like the look of the Aprilia SXVs, cool with the V-twin as well, but my favorite piece is the exaust system, slim while looking absolutely mean.
Hows this for cranked over:

Supermoto Junkie

19th November 2007, 18:41

I've heard that doing wheelies on a Motard is easier than normal road bikes..... Hmmmm... :shifty: lol

I won't answer that as it maybe taken as evidence......:msn-wink:

deanohit

19th November 2007, 18:43

We'll conquer the world some day:2thumbsup

Bring on
WORLD DOMINATION!

Sully60

19th November 2007, 18:44

Jeez guys, I'm stoked with how well this thread is going. Great to see everyone talking about the most fun bikes out there.

Yeah man!
Huge ups to Deanohit for this thread, apart from Bucket update and Tits or Arse this is the by far the best thread not posted by Number One I've seen since I rejoined KB, especially with all the "fired/removed, axis of evil, biker down and Idiots on GN shit that has been posted lately it's good to have a thread thats positive and about actually riding motorcycles, not giving other people shit or pointing out their inadequacies.

I you have not blinged Deanohit then please do, we need to encourage these kinds of posts!

deanohit

19th November 2007, 18:47

this is the by far the best thread not posted by Number One

Hahaha, fishing for brownie points aye!

I you have not blinged Deanohit then please do, we need to encourage these kinds of posts!
I don't need bling, just more pics please for me to :drool: over!

Supermoto Junkie

19th November 2007, 18:48

This is a link to the IQ18 Films website that make the pSychoMoto DVD, you can download the trailer, quite a big download (19mb i think) but it is pretty cool, some crazy brits.....

http://www.iq18films.com/downloads.html

I'm thinking of purchasing a copy via the internet if anyone is keen on a copy,

Supermoto Junkie

19th November 2007, 18:53

Yeah man!
Huge ups to Deanohit for this thread, apart from Bucket update and Tits or Arse this is the by far the best thread not posted by Number One I've seen since I rejoined KB, especially with all the "fired/removed, axis of evil, biker down and Idiots on GN shit that has been posted lately it's good to have a thread thats positive and about actually riding motorcycles, not giving other people shit or pointing out their inadequacies.

I you have not blinged Deanohit then please do, we need to encourage these kinds of posts!

I need to go and read some other threads and dish out some bling as I can't bling you guys anymore for this thread as this is the only real place i've been on KB for days, so i better go and share the love........ahhhhh who gives a shit about bling....... i'll stay here with the tarders and instead of bling i'll buy you all a beer on the next ride...:niceone::niceone::niceone:

deanohit

19th November 2007, 18:55

Hell, I've definitely gotta get up to Aucks then, the amount of people reckoning they're gonna but me a beer. :drinknsin Gonna be a good trip! Just gotta find the time now.

Supermoto Junkie

19th November 2007, 18:57

Hell, I've definitely gotta get up to Aucks then, the amount of people reckoning they're gonna but me a beer. :drinknsin Gonna be a good trip!

You better crank up that black machine and get up here then, maybe we should set up a motard ride?

deanohit

19th November 2007, 19:03

Well, I'm gonna be pretty busy for the next few weeks and I go down south on the 20th Dec, but I reckon I could squeeze in a ride up sometime. Will let you know. =-)

Sully60

19th November 2007, 19:05

I won't answer that as it maybe taken as evidence......:msn-wink:
Ha ha, good one!
I can, as all (well most) of mine were on the track. I had a shorty front guard (they went out of fashion quick!) with a black and yellow dunlop sticker at the front. If I lined the the border between the black and yellow up with the horizon the bike would wheelie as far as the road would let you. Being on the horizon it did make it a little hard to see where your going though!
Even 250fs' do good wheelies, if you leave the dirt wheels on they wheelie around corners good too!

deanohit

19th November 2007, 19:09

Cool shots thanks Sully60. Gonna cut the guard down on my bike sometime, and if it looks shit with that, one of those flash Ascerbis ones on trademe:
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=127800997

Sully60

19th November 2007, 19:12

Hahaha, fishing for brownie points aye!

Not at all, like I said I think this thread is a shining light in some of the shit that goes on this site.

I don't need bling, just more pics please for me to :drool: over!

Done!

deanohit

19th November 2007, 19:21

you can download the trailer, quite a big download
http://www.iq18films.com/downloads.html
I'm thinking of purchasing a copy via the internet if anyone is keen on a copy,

The download is 13mb.
Cool trailer, I see theres a fair bit of stuff in there from UpOnOne, those guys do some cool shit.
Will be keen on seeing the rest of the DVD if you get it. :2thumbsup

deanohit

19th November 2007, 19:24

Not at all, like I said I think this thread is a shining light in some of the shit that goes on this site.

Yea, I have been spending more time back on KBer since starting this thread, what with all the shit that was going around, well lets just say alot got done around the house. :rolleyes:
Now the weeds are starting to win in the vege garden again and the floor needs vacuming, but I know what I'll be doing. :jerry:

deanohit

19th November 2007, 19:50

How about some SuperMoto Madness with Nicky Hayden:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=zpHC8HQyKgE&feature=related
http://youtube.com/watch?v=zpHC8HQyKgE&feature=related

Supermoto Junkie

19th November 2007, 19:56

How about some SuperMoto Madness with Nicky Hayden:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=zpHC8HQyKgE&feature=related
http://youtube.com/watch?v=zpHC8HQyKgE&feature=related

yeah, that has been saved to my favs for a while.........thats what you call getting your knee down

NordieBoy

19th November 2007, 20:50

I had many many MB's of motard vids saved but deleted most of them after a few years of watching them over and over.

Have a look for "wheel of pain".

Sully60

19th November 2007, 21:01

How about some SuperMoto Madness with Nicky Hayden:

Gosh!:shit:

I'd not seen that and its quite old (Biaggi on a Honda)

Fuck! I wanna have Nicky Hayden's children! That's wicked. The big rolling stoppy into drift and knee down, man thats the shizzle. I've actually done that exact move before but then I woke up with a warm sticky mess in me jarmies.

No bling can do that one justice!

EJK

19th November 2007, 21:08

OK I've put one Motard on my wish list :shit:
Thanks very much Deanohit! lol :lol:

Cause you know why?

deanohit

19th November 2007, 21:22

Cause you saw my awesome skills and thought, "I wanna be that cool"

:laugh:

EJK

19th November 2007, 21:24

You?!?! lol maybe :sunny:

In the vid, they drift on two wheels!!! :sunny:

P.S. there is a friend of mine who thinks drifting in cars are fun <_<
I say "Pfffft!!!!" :lol:

deanohit

19th November 2007, 21:34

there is a friend of mine who thinks drifting in cars are fun <_<
I say "Pfffft!!!!" :lol:

Just for you EJ:

deanohit

19th November 2007, 22:04

Some more posters:

deanohit

20th November 2007, 07:02

Yet another one: :shutup:

NordieBoy

20th November 2007, 08:11

I havn't added any motard pics to THIS (http://fran.nelson.geek.nz/motorbikes/motard/) site for 3-4 years now but there's over 300 there...

Some of Mr Sales old school motards...
XR500 running on meths...
<img src=http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/road/Nelson%20Port%20Races/20050102%20Nelson%20Port%20Races/ThePits/slides/20050102-090339.jpg>

TM400
<img src=http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/road/Nelson%20Port%20Races/20060102%20Nelson%20Port%20Races/slides/20060102-154449.jpg>

Sully60

20th November 2007, 08:42

Great pics there Nordie.
Its good to see some NZ made motards for a change.

I know from experience that XR is FAST. When I first started racing my SV we always seemed to end up on the same piece of track in the F2 races. I had to run descent corner speeds and get on the gas really early if I was to get past on the straights.

Didn’t mind being behind him two much the smell from the “meths”(did he strain it through some bread first?) becomes a little intoxicating, but then my eyes started to water a bit.

The TM400’s a bit of a weapon too!

deanohit

20th November 2007, 10:06

Sully60

20th November 2007, 10:09

Thanks for the link Nordie, saved it to my favorites to go through later, but this pic stood out straight away: :laugh:

Does this come as a packaged deal? Where do I sign?:drool:

GaZBur

20th November 2007, 10:58

Got another question; does water cooling make a noticeable difference in performance eg. XR650 vs DR650? The summerfest pricing on the DR is pretty damn good, but I don't peticulary want something that's sluggish....
DR's are oil cooled, cheap, reliable but not really race bikes, having said that I race mine in everything. Road, Gravel, hill climbs, Motard etc etc.(I have a few pics of it in the Gallery (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/photopost/member.php?uid=12194&protype=1))

...Don't get me wrongI like Suzuki's but DR650s are sluggish and heavy and consequently last forever.
True - but there were a lot of 600 and over sports bikes behind my DR at Levels the other day.

Anyone else have a rough maintenance schedule for their supermoto?
Looks at chain - maybe oil it, then checks tyres and fills up with petrol on way to track. Takes off mirrors and numberplate at track.

For a fun motard I'd go for the DR650.
The extra torque would be welcome.
For a racier one I'd lean toward the lighter bike.
You onto it! Whats your budget? If you can't afford to be a top runner then have a go with anything, yes anything! Just race!!!

GaZBur

20th November 2007, 17:25

... Welly a dude was racing a KLX300 with Bridgestone Trailwings. That guy was hard to beat in the carparks and go cart tracks, especially if it rained.
First off - I am just a beginner at this but I did my first three Kart track sessions on Bridgestone Trailwings - best thing I could have done. They slide a lot and I learned to go with it quite quickly. I suspect if I had decent tyres to start with I would have freaked a bit more. I didn't even know I was sliding much until I was told how loose I was by someone else. Now I have decentish tyres and when I slide its a bit less controlled.

Thats my mighty Zongshen ...Just starting to try and slide the rear a weeeee bit, damn it's awesome fun, and if I do drop it, so what, it was cheap.
Pic was from a while back, it's a heap dirtier at the mo.
That article "Back It In" by Matt Pursley you put the link in for was very informative. I found turning into a corner with heaps of front brake the back steps out without needing help from the back brake, engine brakeing is smooth enough to do it. I would would really struggle trying to control the clutch like he says - I feel I am years away from that level of control!
This thread has really got some good action... Would love to learn more if anyone has links to good resources to pick up tips. My pics look a bit tame to those others on here.

Coyote

20th November 2007, 17:32

DR's are oil cooled, cheap, reliable but not really race bikes, having said that I race mine in everything. Road, Gravel, hill climbs, Motard etc etc.(I have a few pics of it in the Gallery (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/photopost/member.php?uid=12194&protype=1))

Haha, that's awesome! Made me look at the DR in a different light

Some of Mr Sales old school motards...
XR500 running on meths...
<img src=http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/road/Nelson%20Port%20Races/20050102%20Nelson%20Port%20Races/ThePits/slides/20050102-090339.jpg>

Does that guy race at Manfeild? Cause then I've seen it. I was wondering why that old air cooled XR was doing so well against the modern bikes

Depends on the budget, This is what I would (and have) buy
$7 - $8k, 03 KTM 660smc or 02ish XR650(sm)
That's what I'm keen on now. Makes sense since they'll be more reliable than the higher strung 450s. Just got to find a way to afford it

Fuck! I wanna have Nicky Hayden's children!
You're a girl?!?!

NordieBoy

20th November 2007, 18:29

Thanks for the link Nordie, saved it to my favorites to go through later, but this pic stood out straight away: :laugh:

Damn, I bet that XR500 sounds awesome, must be kicking out some power as well! :headbang:

That was an ad for the carbon wheels believe it or not.

I think the XR500 was putting out around 70hp?
It was using an Aprilia con-rod.

EJK

20th November 2007, 18:41

Just for you EJ:

Great! just great! :D lol

Supermoto Junkie

20th November 2007, 18:46

That was an ad for the carbon wheels believe it or not.

I think the XR500 was putting out around 70hp?
It was using an Aprilia con-rod.

Wouldn't ya just love to come out of a corner on that thing and burn off a late model MXer that some dude has poured $10k worth of extras in to....:niceone:

deanohit

20th November 2007, 20:39

My pics look a bit tame to those others on here.

Mate, at least they're pics of you out there doin it! :headbang:

I've found with my bike while only a 200, it's still got a heap of engine braking and chatters when you chop it down the gears, so gotta use the clutch to control it. I still need alot of practice though to smooth it all out.

Had my first real slide this afternoon, was more :shit: than skill though, came through the corner and it was like :crazy: "wish I'd known it was going to go that far!".
Turned around and checked out the road, theres a skid about 3 metres long! :sweatdrop
Will be going a bit easier from here on!

deanohit

20th November 2007, 20:40

I think the XR500 was putting out around 70hp?
It was using an Aprilia con-rod.

Wow, just wow man! :Punk:

Sully60

20th November 2007, 21:38

You're a girl?!?!

Does it matter?

I'm straighter than a straight guy from straight town, but if I could pass Nicky's genes down to my children I wouldn't hesitate!

GaZBur we need more people like you, I thinks it's all about the riding and not the bike. You seem to really enjoy all the disciplines you ride in, a lot of racers seem to have lost sight of that.

NordieBoy

21st November 2007, 06:42

GaZBur we need more people like you, I thinks it's all about the riding and not the bike. You seem to really enjoy all the disciplines you ride in, a lot of racers seem to have lost sight of that.

AirbornAndy from AdvRider is carrying on in Gazz'zzz fine tradition by getting 920miles into the Baja 1000 (1300miles) before having to pull out.
On a DR650 :D

916Senna

21st November 2007, 08:13

GaZBur

21st November 2007, 08:25

Hey guys.....looking at getting into the sport, what size, make and class would you recommend.
Done a little bit of trail riding on an old XT200 years ago, a bit of 250 proddy racing, too fat and too old these days, but mostly road stuff on my duke twins...latest being the Senna.

you advice would be much appreciated
The big question is it for fun or are you serious.

MNZ Rules (http://www.mnz.co.nz/competitionrules.aspx)click the link for details.
Rule Super Motard 34-8 Capacity Classes:

Super Moto Class
251cc to 450cc 4 Stroke
201cc to 300cc 2 Stroke
Maximum wheel size to be 17 inch, front and back. Brake, engine and suspension tuning permitted. This is the main individual event.

Super Moto Open Class
455cc to 700cc 4 Stroke
301cc to 700cc 2 Stroke
Any modification to wheel sizes, brakes, engine and suspension tuning permitted.

Sportsman Lites
0 to 250cc 4 Stroke
0 to 200cc 2 Stroke
Must have standard OEM dirt bike rims, brake calipers and suspension travel.

Sportsman Open
251cc to Open 4 Stroke
201cc to Open 2 Stroke
Must have standard OEM dirt bike rims, brake calipers and suspension travel.

Sportsman Junior
0 to 250cc 4 Stroke
0 to 200cc 2 Stroke

Junior 13 – 16 years must have junior licence. Must have standard OEM dirt bike rims, brake calipers and suspension travel.

If you serious you should look at 450's.
If you want fun and value get a DR650 or similar.

Coyote

21st November 2007, 08:35

Does it matter?

I'm straighter than a straight guy from straight town, but if I could pass Nicky's genes down to my children I wouldn't hesitate!

GaZBur we need more people like you, I thinks it's all about the riding and not the bike. You seem to really enjoy all the disciplines you ride in, a lot of racers seem to have lost sight of that.
Not really, I wouldn't use so many question and exclamations marks if I was being serious.

I'm a pretty keen racer when I can afford it, I'm sure my kids in the waaay away future will be fine.

Too right

916Senna

21st November 2007, 08:39

I would like to be somewhat serious...I enjoy competition....looking around at what is available 7-8 k should get me a bike already set up.

Am I right thinking the 450's is the so called elite class? I have been watching the international classes and that seems to be the way of things.

are there any clubs in my area? I have done a bit of looking but nothing jumps out.

deanohit

21st November 2007, 10:44

The Supermoto GP of France is on Sky Sport 1 tonight @ 8.30.
Great stuff to watch, those guys can ride alright !!!!

Nudemetals put this in another thread, just passing it on here.
Should be good guys.

deanohit

21st November 2007, 14:22

I think we all know what this guy is saying here

916Senna

21st November 2007, 14:27

Feck Arse...

gijoe1313

21st November 2007, 14:45

"...did I leave the oven on?"

GaZBur

21st November 2007, 14:51

I think we all know what this guy is saying here
"Is Mecca is this way ?- If so I have just enough time to pray."

Sully60

21st November 2007, 14:55

I think we all know what this guy is saying here

Wish I'd taken that job offering dental:doh:

deanohit

21st November 2007, 16:00

Hows this for a motard, courtesy of Nordieboys collection: :lol:

Sully60

21st November 2007, 16:39

Hows this for a motard, courtesy of Nordieboys collection: :lol:

Kewwwl,
A Bucketard! My ultimate bike:laugh:
That zorst is almost as cool as mine!

EJK

21st November 2007, 16:53

I think we all know what this guy is saying here

"Hey I've found a dollar! Mine!"

:lol:

Supermoto Junkie

21st November 2007, 17:49

Hows this for a motard, courtesy of Nordieboys collection: :lol:

Now thats a cool little rig......:first:

deanohit

21st November 2007, 18:35

Heres another one from the same company, powered by a mighty Zongshen 140cc ball tearing monster! :banana:
Know it's not a motard but it's close enough.
I love the exaust!

deanohit

21st November 2007, 18:36

AH HAH!!!
Found it, you'll never believe what powers this bike?

deanohit

21st November 2007, 18:43

AH HAH!!!
Found it, you'll never believe what powers this bike?

It's powered by a damn Husaberg 470!!!!!!!! :gob: :banana:

there goes Sully's dreams of racing it as a bucket motard. :(

http://www.sns1.de/web/mb/cars.nsf (Project "husaPBR 1")

Supermoto Junkie

21st November 2007, 18:47

It's powered by a damn Husaberg 470!!!!!!!! :gob: :banana:

there goes Sully's dreams of racing it as a bucket motard. :(

How much fun would that thing be???....

deanohit

21st November 2007, 18:51

Good for turning those wheelies into back flips aye?!

Supermoto Junkie

21st November 2007, 19:01

Good for turning those wheelies into back flips aye?!

....in a heart beat

deanohit

21st November 2007, 19:06

Heres an article from Rapid Bikes on a guy with a street legal pocket motard running a very special suprise for big bike riders:

Hit the little button and :doctor:

Supermoto Junkie

21st November 2007, 19:07

Hey guys, Macstar and I are going to hook up in the weekend for a bit of a play on the motards if anyone wants to join in, its going to be a quiet little pootle around...........yeah right!

Sully60

21st November 2007, 20:53

there goes Sully's dreams of racing it as a bucket motard. :(

What, do you reckon they'd notice.:shifty:

The lack of revs and megaphones might give it away.:doh:

deanohit

21st November 2007, 21:03

What, do you reckon they'd notice.:shifty:

I think the might notice, something to do with it sounding gruntier than 150cc might do it. :pinch:

Coyote

21st November 2007, 21:08

It's powered by a damn Husaberg 470!!!!!!!! :gob: :banana:

Haha, always wanted to do something crazy like that. I've got a minimoto rolling chassis at home waiting for a nice big engine for it :p Maybe the VFR's when I tear the fucking thing to pieces out of anger

Pretty keen to get another bike a-sap as the VFR is a write off. Went to the Wednesday night ride and everyone gathered around to find something else wrong with it (cheers guys, loving it...). I'm 18 now, I can get finance without my parents help, just need a better paying job now (guess I'll skip the idea of going to Weltec next year).

deanohit

22nd November 2007, 07:20

Some new posters:
Love the Husky one!

deanohit

22nd November 2007, 07:36

Another one:

Coyote

22nd November 2007, 07:39

Haha, always wanted to do something crazy like that. I've got a minimoto rolling chassis at home waiting for a nice big engine for it :p
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Parts-accessories/Engine-drive-train/auction-127653820.htm

mmmm...

deanohit

22nd November 2007, 09:59

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Parts-accessories/Engine-drive-train/auction-127653820.htm

mmmm...

Now that could be interesting. :niceone:
Bloody cheap as well.
Mmmmmmmmmm, could go well in my bike.

crash test dummy

22nd November 2007, 10:28

Me on my crf450 taupo race track...these things are fun!
77458

Supermoto Junkie

22nd November 2007, 10:57

Me on my crf450 taupo race track...these things are fun!
77458

nice shot Crash, love the sparking sliders

Sully60

22nd November 2007, 11:19

Me on my crf450 taupo race track...these things are fun!
77458

Nice! Knee down, it's all good!:clap:
Do you ride foot out style at all? If so what's you opinion about the differing styles?

I've tried both and use both for my own reasons but am interested to hear what other people have found.

Sully60

22nd November 2007, 11:23

Some new posters:
Love the Husky one!

Hey they must have made that third one about me!:tugger:

Supermoto Junkie

22nd November 2007, 11:38

Nice! Knee down, it's all good!:clap:
Do you ride foot out style at all? If so what's you opinion about the differing styles?

I've tried both and use both for my own reasons but am interested to hear what other people have found.

I am a street rider only and have never raced bikes on tarmac (MX only) but I ride with my foot down probably due to my MX days, also I find it off puting sliding off the seat on my Motard, fine with it on a sports bike, maybe the MX thing again.

GaZBur

22nd November 2007, 11:49

Nice! Knee down, it's all good!:clap:
Do you ride foot out style at all? If so what's you opinion about the differing styles?

I've tried both and use both for my own reasons but am interested to hear what other people have found.
As you know I am still a beginner at this but low speed tight corners I put out the foot, wet track I put out the foot - everything else is foot on pegs. Using 21inch fronts and a tall bike from past experience when my knee is sliding - so is my hip, sholder and head. When I do slide out the back braking into a corner it is intentional about 1/4 the time - the rest of the time it is Wow quick take a photo NOW dammit!

deanohit

22nd November 2007, 11:56

Me on my crf450 taupo race track...these things are fun!
77458

Man, that is an awesome shot! :banana:

Finn

22nd November 2007, 11:58

Here's my cuzzie bro...

deanohit

22nd November 2007, 12:00

Here's my cuzzie bro...

So where was that taken Finn?
Great shot! :headbang:

crash test dummy

22nd November 2007, 12:21

Finn

22nd November 2007, 12:27

So where was that taken Finn?
Great shot! :headbang:

Somewhere around LA at a guess. He's a Stunt Coordinator / Stuntman and lives there. He's also got an R1. A lot of fun to hang out with - trust me.

Hancock (2008) (post-production) (stunt coordinator)
Jumper (2008) (post-production) (stunt coordinator)
X-Men: The Last Stand (2006) (stunt coordinator)
16 Blocks (2006) (stunt double: Bruce Willis)
Saw II (2005) (stunt double)
The Dukes of Hazzard (2005) (stunts)
The Island (2005) (stunt performer)
Mr. & Mrs. Smith (2005) (assistant stunt coordinator)
National Treasure (2004) (stunts)
Troy (2004) (assistant stunt coordinator)
Lara Croft Tomb Raider: The Cradle of Life (2003) (stunts)
Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines (2003) (assistant stunt coordinator) (key stunt performer) (stunt double: Arnold Schwarzenegger / Nick Stahl
The Tuxedo (2002) (stunt driver)
"Witchblade" (2001) (stunt coordinator)
Lara Croft: Tomb Raider (2001) (stunts)
Proof of Life (2000) (stunt double: Kessler)
Vertical Limit (2000) (stunts)
The Last Patrol (2000) (stunt double: Mr. Lundgren)
Operation Delta Force 3: Clear Target (1999) (co-stunt coordinator) (stunts)
The World Is Not Enough (1999) (stunt double: Pierce Brosnan)
"Relic Hunter" (1999) TV Series (stunt coordinator
Bridge of Dragons (1999) (stunt double: Mr. Lundgren)
The Mummy (1999) (stunts)
Sweepers (1998) (assistant stunt coordinator)
Blackjack (1998) (TV) (stunt coordinator) (stunt double: Mr. Lundgren)
Operation Delta Force 2: Mayday (1998) (TV) (stunt coordinator)
"The Legend of the Hidden City" (1997) TV Series (stunts) (unknown episodes)
Cyborg Cop III (1996) (co-stunt coordinator)
Human Timebomb (1996) (stunts)
Kickboxer 5 (1995) (stunt double)
Cyborg Cop II (1995) (stunts)
Cyborg Cop (1993) (stunts)
Point of Impact (1993) (stunts)

deanohit

22nd November 2007, 12:46

Sounds like quite the talented man, ya got any more pics of him on his motard?

Finn

22nd November 2007, 12:48

Sounds like quite the talented man, ya got any more pics of him on his motard?

Nope, just his old R1...

nodrog

22nd November 2007, 12:53

Here's my cuzzie bro...

is that a pit bike, or is your cuzzie Adult sized?

Finn

22nd November 2007, 12:56

is that a pit bike, or is your cuzzie Adult sized?

You must spread some reputation around before calling nodrog a cunt again.

*Read it carefully.

Sully60

22nd November 2007, 23:24

im knee down...taupo has only got one really tight hairpin and find going around this with bike on knee is faster, im from a road background so find this more comfy. We were racing there this weekend and the slicks went off...my mate who is also knee down rider started putting foot out cause of the sliding we getting coming out of the corners....im foot out in the wet (with different boots on)

Yeah I'm pretty much the same. The one thing I'll say is the roadracing style uses less energy than the foot out style. Back in the days when we used Kaitoke cart track for endurance races 1 and 2 hours long pretty much everyone ends up riding road race stylez. The ol' foot out was good for the frenetic sprint races and in the wet but not so good for consistant fast laps.

Coyote

23rd November 2007, 20:01

Does anyone know about Husabergs? I've always liked them, and they seem to be fairly cheap (I guess since few people want them).

deanohit

23rd November 2007, 20:03

Nope, no idea on Husbergs, hardly even hear any thing about them, whether people like them or problems or just anything.
Cool looking bike though.

GaZBur

23rd November 2007, 20:13

Does anyone know about Husabergs? I've always liked them, and they seem to be fairly cheap (I guess since few people want them).
There is a Husaberg (510?? or thereabouts) that I have competed against in the Road hill climb and Motards - I appears to be mega quick. I don't know if its standard but looks to have more power than a KTM525, he is a good rider and he fair slaughters me along with most the rest.

deanohit

23rd November 2007, 20:21

For Sully60, some Bucketards from the States:
TTR125 :wari:

deanohit

23rd November 2007, 20:24

For Sully60, some Bucketards from the States:

CRF150 :banana:

Both bikes on 17"s and running GP125 slicks. :2thumbsup

Sully60

23rd November 2007, 20:29

Does anyone know about Husabergs? I've always liked them, and they seem to be fairly cheap (I guess since few people want them).

They can be quite troublesome at times, back in 02 03 when we sold them they did have some funny things happen that just don't seem to happen to other bikes. Stupid things like stators failing on almost new bikes. The engines on the ones we had at the time had some innovative features such as the concentric counter balancer and the barrel casings being part of the crankcase asssembly so they're not the kind of thing you want to try and tackle major stuff on if you're not confident mechanically.
I must add though the importer at the time (don't know if it's still Nigel Bevan) did a good job with support so we never had the parts leadtime of other exotica such as Husky's etc.

Performance wise though they are awesome! The engine aren't super snappy like a Jappa 450, 660 SMC's or NOX but they're really tractable, smooth and torquey and just as powerful. The chassis apart from showing whats on the other side of the bike are really light so they're right up there in terms of handling. The Beringer four pots I tried on the 650SM have go to be one of the best setups I used on any bike (apart from radial Brembo's).

So to some up, One frikken awesome RACE bike, not something to be taken lightly!

Coyote

23rd November 2007, 20:30

There is a Husaberg (510?? or thereabouts) that I have competed against in the Road hill climb and Motards - I appears to be mega quick. I don't know if its standard but looks to have more power than a KTM525, he is a good rider and he fair slaughters me along with most the rest.
The ones on trademe that are of interest are a 450 and a 470, but I would like the larger version (which is about 510, maybe 540, can't remember and the internet is too slow to find out).

I know Husaberg is owned and made by KTM, and they originally broke away from Husqvarna. Though reliability, maintence requires and flaws would be good to know about

Coyote

23rd November 2007, 20:36

So to some up, One frikken awesome RACE bike, not something to be taken lightly!
Interesting. The barrel being part of the crankcase sounds expensive if the barrel ever seized to the piston, don't like the sound of that.

I always quite liked the open look they had, they're very simple and don't look so cluttered.

Basically they're not the road machine I'm after? Think an XR650R or LC4 are still the way to go, even though they're more farm bike than Motocross bike

Supermoto Junkie

23rd November 2007, 21:02

Interesting. The barrel being part of the crankcase sounds expensive if the barrel ever seized to the piston, don't like the sound of that.

I always quite liked the open look they had, they're very simple and don't look so cluttered.

Basically they're not the road machine I'm after? Think an XR650R or LC4 are still the way to go, even though they're more farm bike than Motocross bike

Mate, by the time you get 17s, big front brake, suspension and a few engine mods, the old XR650 or a LC4 will be far from a farm bike.....trust me, i've built both

Supermoto Junkie

23rd November 2007, 21:04

They can be quite troublesome at times, back in 02 03 when we sold them

ahhhhhh.....so a man in the trade.........so who did you work for back in 02, 03?

NordieBoy

24th November 2007, 08:22

Performance wise though they are awesome! The engine aren't super snappy like a Jappa 450, 660 SMC's or NOX but they're really tractable, smooth and torquey and just as powerful. The chassis apart from showing whats on the other side of the bike are really light so they're right up there in terms of handling. The Beringer four pots I tried on the 650SM have go to be one of the best setups I used on any bike (apart from radial Brembo's).

So to some up, One frikken awesome RACE bike, not something to be taken lightly!

Ultra smooth at low revs.
Clive at CycleTreads here has a 650 that he loves.

Sully60

24th November 2007, 08:36

Interesting. The barrel being part of the crankcase sounds expensive if the barrel ever seized to the piston, don't like the sound of that.

I always quite liked the open look they had, they're very simple and don't look so cluttered.

Basically they're not the road machine I'm after? Think an XR650R or LC4 are still the way to go, even though they're more farm bike than Motocross bike

Sorry I wasn't too clear about the barrel detail. The cylinder liner itself is replacable as it is a separate part, its just that the everything has to be timed up and put back together, then the crankcase halves bolt back together. They ain't no XR to work on put it that way.

Hmm if all farms had XR650Rs or LC4s I'd be milking cows tomorrow!

deanohit

24th November 2007, 12:34

The DRZ for shorter riders: :laugh:

And a Yammie Bobber:

deanohit

24th November 2007, 12:38

Coyote

24th November 2007, 12:47

Sorry I wasn't too clear about the barrel detail. The cylinder liner itself is replacable as it is a separate part, its just that the everything has to be timed up and put back together, then the crankcase halves bolt back together. They ain't no XR to work on put it that way.
Well that's good to hear. I could live with that since those Husabergs look so damn good. I'd have to have another commuter ride though, whereas an XR of LC4 would cover all my riding hopefully

Mate, by the time you get 17s, big front brake, suspension and a few engine mods, the old XR650 or a LC4 will be far from a farm bike.....trust me, i've built both
Well I was amazed to see that LC4 towards the start of this thread that had been done up. Looked stunning.

My Dad just told me he heard some of the Australian bike tours businesses that own Yamaha TT600s reckon they've gone as far as 100,000kms without any problems. Sounds great, but they're a bit like the DR650 I imagine?

deanohit

24th November 2007, 12:51

TTR600 you say?:cool:

Coyote

24th November 2007, 12:56

The Husabergs are a great looking bike Coyote, heres a few pics I found on Supermoto Junkie, (http://www.supermotojunkie.com/index.php) a really cool SM forum I found earlier.

You could ask on there Coyote, there seems to be a fair following for them.
I'm having a look through the site (very slowly, stupid xtra 'broadband'). I'll look for answers before I ask (after seeing so many newbies on here be crucified).

Are you registered on the site? I'm regoin up and they ask for the name of who reffered you towards the site.

Coyote

24th November 2007, 13:01

TTR600 you say?:cool:
Wow

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deanohit

24th November 2007, 13:03

Are you registered on the site? I'm regoin up and they ask for the name of who reffered you towards the site.
Yea, Deanohit on there as well, haven't posted anything yet, still looking through the bike porn! :drool: I'm logged on there at the mo as well.

And yea, I know what ya mean about Xtra broadband. :wacko:

deanohit

24th November 2007, 13:05

Wow

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Yea man, in case you guys haven't figured it out, I'm supermoto crazy and have hundreds of pics of all sorts. :headbang:
Thats why I got a cheap trail bike insted of a cheap cruiser or sport bike.

Supermoto Junkie

25th November 2007, 06:46

Yea, Deanohit on there as well, haven't posted anything yet, still looking through the bike porn! :drool: I'm logged on there at the mo as well.

And yea, I know what ya mean about Xtra broadband. :wacko:

it is a great site, i've been a member there for quite some time, there is somecool threads just on pics of members rides, most of the members are usa and uk,

deanohit

25th November 2007, 06:50

it is a great site, i've been a member there for quite some time, there is somecool threads just on pics of members rides, most of the members are usa and uk,

I'm up to page 90 of 296 of the members rides, phwooooooooooar, theres some nice bikes out there!

Whats your name on there SJ? :2thumbsup

Supermoto Junkie

25th November 2007, 07:01

I'm up to page 90 of 296 of the members rides, phwooooooooooar, theres some nice bikes out there!

Whats your name on there SJ? :2thumbsup

Some very cool scooters, i have a few on there from over the years

Supermot freak..............missed the last O when i registered:2thumbsup

NordieBoy

25th November 2007, 11:20

Some very cool scooters, i have a few on there from over the years

Supermot freak..............missed the last O when i registered:2thumbsup

Looks like I joined Jan 2005 and have never posted :(

Visordown's Motard section was my home for years.

deanohit

27th November 2007, 20:28

Well, being a few days since anyone posted in here, so heres a beautiful carbon Ktm to get the :drool: going again:

Supermoto Junkie

28th November 2007, 08:24

Well, being a few days since anyone posted in here, so heres a beautiful carbon Ktm to get the :drool: going again:

Sexy as,:niceone:

R6_kid

28th November 2007, 10:24

They can be quite troublesome at times, back in 02 03 when we sold them they did have some funny things happen that just don't seem to happen to other bikes. Stupid things like stators failing on almost new bikes. The engines on the ones we had at the time had some innovative features such as the concentric counter balancer and the barrel casings being part of the crankcase asssembly so they're not the kind of thing you want to try and tackle major stuff on if you're not confident mechanically.
I must add though the importer at the time (don't know if it's still Nigel Bevan) did a good job with support so we never had the parts leadtime of other exotica such as Husky's etc.

Performance wise though they are awesome! The engine aren't super snappy like a Jappa 450, 660 SMC's or NOX but they're really tractable, smooth and torquey and just as powerful. The chassis apart from showing whats on the other side of the bike are really light so they're right up there in terms of handling. The Beringer four pots I tried on the 650SM have go to be one of the best setups I used on any bike (apart from radial Brembo's).

So to some up, One frikken awesome RACE bike, not something to be taken lightly!

f00ken mean! Im eying a pair up at the moment - one is road ready and the other is a racer with road gear ready to be put on, he wants $7k for the road ready and $5k for the racer. Checking them out this week and may be KB's next motard loon all going well!

deanohit

28th November 2007, 10:56

Supermoto Junkie

28th November 2007, 12:33

f00ken mean! Im eying a pair up at the moment - one is road ready and the other is a racer with road gear ready to be put on, he wants $7k for the road ready and $5k for the racer. Checking them out this week and may be KB's next motard loon all going well!

Good on ya mate, you want be disappointed with a motard, If they are the ones i think they are you'll have a sweet ride,

does the road one have a set of painted plastics with it?

R6_kid

29th November 2007, 15:28

Good on ya mate, you want be disappointed with a motard, If they are the ones i think they are you'll have a sweet ride,

does the road one have a set of painted plastics with it?

I believe the guy has started to paint the FS black, i'm keen on the FE simply because of the price, he said the FE was bought as a MX/enduro and has had FS gear put on to make it a motard, still only done 35hrs.

I know i have the motard bug after riding a WR450 around Taupo Track and on a couple of rides North of Auckland on SH16, and i'm lead to believe that the FE650 is a few kilos lighter, and has a fair few extra ponies too. The only thing i didnt like about the WR was it ran out of go on the back straight of Taupo at about 160-170kmh which was expected.. everything else was awesome!