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[Indiana_Jones]

It's a while off yet being on my learners, but I have no idea what sort of bike I wish to own one day.
I have narrowed it down to a 600 sports (Daytona 650 is looknig very good for a sports) or a Bonneville..........Any suggestions, like pro's and con's for each?

Thanks

-Indy

[Blakamin]

600??when only the best will do, buy a Ducati :headbang:

pros
its a duc
women like them (so i've heard)
its a duc
handling
its a duc
loud twin rumblings
its a duc


cons
none (not heaps of horsies)
and nobody is allowed to say "its a duc"

[NC]

600??when only the best will do, buy a Ducati :headbang:

Blah blah blah, Meh meh meh meh!



I so want one :weep:




Soon........so...sooon :D

[Milky]

cons
none (not heaps of horsies)
and nobody is allowed to say "its a duc"
how about it has a reputation for being unreliable, overpriced and underpowered instead? ;)

[NC]

how about it has a reputation for being unreliable, overpriced and underpowered instead? ;)


But they are soooo pretty and shiney and sound PWHOA!

[Blakamin]

how about it has a reputation for being unreliable, overpriced and underpowered instead? ;)
untrue! my new speedo cable is only $35

[NC]

untrue! my new speedo cable is only $35

The other one got ripped off by the G-forces? Doin 4 G turns?

[dhunt]

I think it comes down to what you want to do on a bike. Sports bikes like going fast on the straights and lots of windy's. But if you prefer just crusing a long, a more cruiser style bike is probably better.

[Blakamin]

The other one got ripped off by the G-forces? Doin 4 G turns?
yeah...that or takin the speedo to "off the clock" 240ks.... or riding out of my bosses driveway to go to manfield.......one of the above.... hey... its 7 years old... something had to give!

[dhunt]

hey... its 7 years old... something had to give!
Why don't duc's last any longer than that :Pokey:

[FROSTY]

thern again theres the "interesting" electrics that don't like rain very much :Punk:

[Blakamin]

thern again theres the "interesting" electrics that don't like rain very much :Punk:
havent had that.... and it persisted the day i got her!!!!

[NC]

yeah...that or takin the speedo to "off the clock" 240ks.... or riding out of my bosses driveway to go to manfield.......one of the above.... hey... its 7 years old... something had to give!


240kms!

Oh your 5kms faster than me! :confused:

[Blakamin]

Why don't duc's last any longer than that :Pokey:
coz it sat in the shop so long, coz only us ducatista are allowed to own them, things dont get used enuff....

[dhunt]

coz it sat in the shop so long, coz only us ducatista are allowed to own them, things dont get used enuff....
I say they're over rated --- but then having never ridden one I wouldn't know.

[gav]

Think half the people who have Ducatis are just buying into the image and are really Harley sport bike riders in disguise.
I've ridden things like old Darmah bevel drive GTS860, a Mike Hailwood Replica, a 750F1, Cagiva Allazura, new 750 sport when they came out 88? Paso's , a 916, Monster etc , they were OK but never got the urge to own one, always thought they were a bit underpowered, but apparently they are an acquired tast. Best bit was getting off and getting my own bike back. But if push came to shove and I had to buy Italian, think I would buy a Guzzi.
Ohh, a 600SS that does 240km/h? yeah right ...... I be suprised if it did 180.....

[aff-man]

All good and well but may i make the plug for a 400. If you have the cash a new 600 would be the way to go but if not then a 400 has a bit of up and go. Handel pretty good and you can throw them around a bit without worrying if you will get into trouble. :spudbooge

[Two Smoker]

All good and well but may i make the plug for a 400. If you have the cash a new 600 would be the way to go but if not then a 400 has a bit of up and go. Handel pretty good and you can throw them around a bit without worrying if you will get into trouble. :spudbooge
I agree, 400's are an awesome size, with good handling and great power, they will still do 220kmh easy and when are you going to do higher speeds than that on the road......

As for Ducati's I reakon it is for the image and the sound.... One plus side is the 400SS i rode had beuatiful handling, just lacked in the balls department.......

[jrandom]

thern again theres the "interesting" electrics that don't like rain very much :Punk:

Yeah. Ha ha. Dodgy Italian electrics.

Buy a Suzuki instead.

[Dodgyiti]

How about a Moto-Guzzi 750 Breva?

Allright, I'll put me pointy hat back on and go face the corner :(

[Blakamin]

As for Ducati's I reakon it is for the image and the sound.... One plus side is the 400SS i rode had beuatiful handling, just lacked in the balls department.......
considering I've wanted a Ducati since I first laid eyes on one, I'm happy..
This thing is the same size as the 400ss but has more balls... reckon it has more balls than my old cbr too... i know it handles better! (no bent fork)
More comfortable and heaps of torque... just what i like!
which is good coz I'm the one riding it!
I dont give 2 f*cks what people think about image and sound... if i cared about image i wouldnt have tatts to my wrists :niceone:

[Milky]

Yeah. Ha ha. Dodgy Italian electrics.

Buy a Suzuki instead.
:niceone:

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[KATWYN]

well i've known 3 accidents where it was mechanical
problems that caused the accidents not rider error on a Ducati.
Sorry I don't know the models but they are the 900cc ones- if I
say what I think they are, i'd only be guessing.

Duc 1 x single swing arm snaps

Duc 2 x bearings ceased - threw rider off

Duc 3 x Accelerator jams on full wind sending bike into oncoming traffic,
car hits rider

By the way, Duc 2 & Duc 3 happened within 3 weeks of each other
here in Auckland -

So lovely looking and sounding bikes - but I would be a bit gun shy
at owning one myself

[Blakamin]

i wonder if anyone keeps mechanical accident statistics on suzukis, yamahas, kwakas or hondas??? :Pokey:
would have to be more than one!

[Riff Raff]

[QUOTE=Blakamin]considering I've wanted a Ducati since I first laid eyes on one, I'm happy..

I'm with you all the way on this one. I can go for my full licence in December and then I'm off to get a Duc Monsta 620. Funny the number of people who tell me not to buy a Duc, then admit they've never ridden one. Well I have, and lets just say I won't be needing a man when I get mine...

[Blakamin]

hehehehe... wonder how many people that bag them have owned 1?

[Riff Raff]

Exactly. If more of them tried before they bagged there would probably be more Ducati riders on the road!

[aff-man]

considering I've wanted a Ducati since I first laid eyes on one, I'm happy..
This thing is the same size as the 400ss but has more balls... reckon it has more balls than my old cbr too... i know it handles better! (no bent fork)
More comfortable and heaps of torque... just what i like!
which is good coz I'm the one riding it!
I dont give 2 f*cks what people think about image and sound... if i cared about image i wouldnt have tatts to my wrists :niceone:

Hmm i would look at that i think my 400 puts out the same HP as your 600.

[jrandom]

hehehehe... wonder how many people that bag them have owned 1?

How many people that *have* owned (or do own) one could admit, deep in the deepest darkest corner of their consciousness, that they never over-represent their happiness with their Beloved Character-Filled Ducati?

I, personally, am going to extensively test-ride and minutely inspect every Ducati I can get at when I receive the ol' full license, so that I may form a well-informed opinion thereon.

Until then, I shall merely troll on the subject and enjoy the reliable bites from Duck-humpers. :kick:

[Blakamin]

How many people that *have* owned (or do own) one could admit, deep in the deepest darkest corner of their consciousness, that they never over-represent their happiness with their Beloved Character-Filled Ducati?

I, personally, am going to extensively test-ride and minutely inspect every Ducati I can get at when I receive the ol' full license, so that I may form a well-informed opinion thereon.

Until then, I shall merely troll on the subject and enjoy the reliable bites from Duck-humpers. :kick:
:eyepoke: :shake: ;)

[aff-man]

Hmm i would look at that i think my 400 puts out the same HP as your 600.

What is your ducati putting out by the way can't find it on the net anywhere. I think quasi's was putting out 65 which is the same as miy 400.

[Motoracer]

I didn't know what dukes were all about until I had a go on one. If I win lotto this weekend, it'd be "hello 998R!" :ride:.

[Blakamin]

What is your ducati putting out by the way can't find it on the net anywhere. I think quasi's was putting out 65 which is the same as miy 400.
:Pokey: :Pokey: dont know whether to continue being baited or not :shutup:
oh well... at least I got my dream, a Ducati! whats your dream????? :2thumbsup

If I win lotto this weekend, it'd be "hello 998R!"
Me toooo!

[aff-man]

:Pokey: :Pokey: dont know whether to continue being baited or not :shutup:
oh well... at least I got my dream, a Ducati! whats your dream????? :2thumbsup

Me toooo!

HAHAHAHA no i'd personally get a 748r or 998 if i suddenly came into some money. Just because i love v-twins and the only problem i find is that other than expensive i-talian bikes there is nothing untill the 1l class and then they are expensive anyway :no: :crybaby: :crybaby:

[jrandom]

What is your ducati putting out by the way can't find it on the net anywhere. I think quasi's was putting out 65 which is the same as miy 400.:Pokey: :Pokey: dont know whether to continue being baited or not :shutup:

And *Quasi's* was the 750 SuperSlow! Oh, the shame of it. Three hundred and fifty extra cc's worth of pretty noise, soot and nice warm thighs (well, all that petrol must do *something* when it combusts - physics, innit?)

And all he could afford, after that, was a nasty funny-coloured Kawasaki. The poor man must hardly have the balls to raise his head in the presence of Real Bikers, these days.

Oh dear.

I just remembered.

Yours is the 600, isn't it.

I'd start being polite to 250cc two-stroke riders, if I were you...

[Blakamin]

I'd start being polite to 250cc two-stroke riders, if I were you...
yeah... gotta watch those looks you get riding that 150 too
[edit] thats right...i forgot you're pushing it these days!

[jrandom]

yeah... gotta watch those looks you get riding that 150 too

Sorry dude, I'm immune. The 150's not even *meant* to be a Proper Bike; it doesn't really come into the discussion either way. It's more like a scooter, or a pushbike, or a monthly bus pass.

Anyway, don't you know that digs about my FXR are the KB equivalent of Godwin's Law? It means the thread's over, and someone else has lost the argument... :bleh:

[jrandom]

[edit] thats right...i forgot you're pushing it these days!

Oooh. Now *that's* low. :Pokey:

[Blakamin]

Anyway, don't you know that digs about my FXR are the KB equivalent of Godwin's Law? It means the thread's over, and someone else has lost the argument... :bleh:
didnt know it was an argument?

[jrandom]

didnt know it was an argument?

Well, there was, of course, the somewhat unspoken question of whether or not Ducatis are overpriced crap.

But I was really only quoting the usual form of Godwin's Law, there.

And anyway, only a Nazi would cast aspersions on a bike smaller than his.

:devil2:

[Blakamin]

Well, there was, of course, the somewhat unspoken question of whether or not Ducatis are overpriced crap.

But I was really only quoting the usual form of Godwin's Law, there.

And anyway, only a Nazi would cast aspersions on a bike smaller than his.

:devil2:
:killingme :killingme the way other people cast aspersions about things they've never ridden???

[jrandom]

:killingme :killingme the way other people cast aspersions about things they've never ridden???

Nazis, the lot of 'em...

[Ghost Lemur]

Bahahaha :killingme

So what was this thread about again?

Ah that's right, the Triumph 600 and the Bonneville.

Having not ridden either can't comment on personal experience. Have read good things about the improvements Triumph have made in the past few years. I think you'll find the Triumph much like the Duc, it's a little more expensive than the Jap equivilent, the features and performance are quite as good, but it's got personality.

Would probably help also if you gave us some insight into it's intended usage. % of commuting, % of fanging it, % of lesurely open-roading, etc.

[Two Smoker]

So what's this about 150cc riders :stoogie: ????

[KATWYN]

i wonder if anyone keeps mechanical accident statistics on suzukis, yamahas, kwakas or hondas??? :Pokey:
would have to be more than one!


I wasn't trying to be a dick Blakamin. Was just talking from my own experiences of Ducatis in the last three years.

If we are talking statistics - perhaps my past experiences could be likened
to someone having had the bad luck of being struck by lightning.

It has just put me off....thats all :blah: like i said, NICE bikes tho

and cos its Indiana asking, I felt I needed to mention it - I don't want what
I saw, happen to him ...thats all

[Blakamin]

I wasn't trying to be a dick Blakamin. Was just talking from my own experiences of Ducatis in the last three years.

If we are talking statistics - perhaps my past experiences could be likened
to someone having had the bad luck of being struck by lightning.

It has just put me off....thats all :blah: like i said, NICE bikes tho

and cos its Indiana asking, I felt I needed to mention it - I don't want what
I saw, happen to him ...thats all
Was a pointy stick there, Katwyn! I dont want that shit happenin to anyone!
and your alright TS, you also got a 400!
here we go... cue JR...the nazi!

[Two Smoker]

Was a pointy stick there, Katwyn! I dont want that shit happenin to anyone!
and your alright TS, you also got a 400!
here we go... cue JR...the nazi!
LOL, no worries BK, man i love this site, it provides great amusement from all these great people on here :)

[Blakamin]

LOL, no worries BK, man i love this site, it provides great amusement from all these great people on here :)
me tooo.. good fun for all!
:2thumbsup

[Jackrat]

It's a while off yet being on my learners, but I have no idea what sort of bike I wish to own one day.
I have narrowed it down to a 600 sports (Daytona 650 is looknig very good for a sports) or a Bonneville..........Any suggestions, like pro's and con's for each?

Thanks

-Indy
Back to the original question huh.
Of the two bikes you've named,I would take the Bonnie.
It would be the better all rounder.
An then the 650,It's supposed to handle better than it's Jap counterparts an with around 100 HP it's never gonn'a be lacking in the real world.
As for Dukes,I had an 83 SD900,last of the real ones :devil2: :whistle:
It was a very good bike in a lot of ways,but it did require more than it's fair share of shop time.I have two mates that own later model Dukes, an they don't have any undue problems with em'.
They cane the guts out of them as well.
The way things stand with me at the mo' I hope to buy a Bonnie as my next road bike so I could be a little biased. :first:

[pipeman]

240kms!

Oh your 5kms faster than me! :confused:
Yeah it take him half an hour to get there :bleh:

[Blakamin]

Yeah it take him half an hour to get there :bleh:
yeah.... 30 mins to get 240 ks!.... dont mind if i do!

[edit]... maybe you should quit smokin

[gav]

specs for a 94 600SS (http://www.bikez.com/bike/index.php?bike=4022#GENERAL)
specs for CBR400RR (http://oasis.fortunecity.com/benidorm/367/cbr400rr.htm)
53 hp vs your CBR400RR's 59hp?
Think you miss the point, you had a dream to own a Ducati, clearly it didnt seem to matter what Ducati you got, so long as it was a Ducati, good for you.
But if I had a dream to own a Yamaha, I wouldnt be boasting in every post about the mighty XJ550 I had just bought and how Yamahas were so great.

[Blakamin]

specs for a 94 600SS (http://www.bikez.com/bike/index.php?bike=4022#GENERAL)
specs for CBR400RR (http://oasis.fortunecity.com/benidorm/367/cbr400rr.htm)
53 hp vs your CBR400RR's 59hp?
Think you miss the point, you had a dream to own a Ducati, clearly it didnt seem to matter what Ducati you got, so long as it was a Ducati, good for you.
But if I had a dream to own a Yamaha, I wouldnt be boasting in every post about the mighty XJ550 I had just bought and how Yamahas were so great.
wouldve been great if that cbr wasnt 15 years old and stuffed...
You're right... i give up.... can we lay this to rest now.... I'm happy.. dont care what other people think, as I've said before.... I have my Duc... lets move on!
again you are right... i wouldnt boast about my yammie unless i was proud of it!
say no more... I'm happy.... :finger:
[edit] I'm not made of money so i got what i could afford and that made me happy... one day i might be able to buy a 999R, but until then I have realised a dream and can die tomorrow knowing I had a dream and it came true.... better than having a cbr and wanting before I die... :) peace!

[edit again] I'm sorry for extolling(sp) the virtues of a bike I have owned for a tad over a week... bugga... will never do that again

[gav]

Sure mate, sorry to bag on you!
Hey we both got 1997 600's , wanna race ?
anyway, hope you enjoy the Duc experience :2thumbsup
Thought your price was kinda high, thats all, saw a tri colour 851 for about $12K recently....and a 94 600SS on trademe for $5500
Or this for an extra $1K you could get a 748S
748S Duc $10500 (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports-tourer/auction-17760549.htm)

[Blakamin]

Sure mate, sorry to bag on you!
Hey we both got 1997 600's , wanna race ?
anyway, hope you enjoy the Duc experience :2thumbsup
Thought your price was kinda high, thats all, saw a tri colour 851 for about $12K recently....and a 94 600SS on trademe for $5500
Or this for an extra $1K you could get a 748S
748S Duc $10500 (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports-tourer/auction-17760549.htm)
paid $7000 after trade tho! <_<