Owners of nice bikes who can't ride

[MotoGirl]

It seems like a few KB members have issues with those who own a nice bike and can't ride it to its full capacity. Some would consider the bike to be wasted on its owner.

At the end of that day, if someone wants to spend ludicrous amounts of money to mount their V-rod to their wall, good on them. Same goes if they want to own a 1098 and cruise at 90kph. If you want to ride slower, it doesn't dictate that you have to ride a cruiser or something with less power. The bike you buy and what you do with it is your prerogative. :2thumbsup

I know I can't ride my RSVR like Valentino but I'm not going to apologise for having the money to afford it. I love the look of my bike and it suits my purpose. What's it to you if I never "master it"?

[MVnut]

Good on ya, well said:Punk:

[Bonez]

"Nice" has different meanings to different folk. IMHO it's got absolutely nothing to do with how much a bike costs.

Psss- some take what others type on KB too seriously.

[jrandom]

Personally, I like to reinforce the fact that I can't ride for shit by turning up on a bike that looks like a dirty pile of junk out of a Suzuki spare-parts bin.

:yes:

[limbimtimwim]

Flash bike sets you up to be cut down, tall poppy style.

It's the New Zealand way.

[Trudes]

Agree with you MG, I know 919CC is wasted on me and I ride like I really should have a 1980's 250, but I don't give a shit, if I want to ride to my skill level and stay alive, safe and not crash my pride and joy every couple of thousand KMs, that's my business. Jealous is the word that comes to mind.
HOWEVER.... I can kind of understand it though, I hate driving my heap of crap car at the speed limit only to end up the arse of a gorgeous new HSV doing 40 around every corner who then speeds like shit on the straights so my gutless heap can't pass them, only to be up their date again next corner. Oh well, such is life, my fault for spending too much money on my bike that I can't ride for shit instead of a new car! :bash:

[McDuck]

Could you improve on an absolute hunk of shit? No, not really. I am an instrumentalist (cello) and until a little while ago i thought i was at the end of my talent because it was sounding shit. After trialing a new cello it was the crap cello not the crap me, so i am upgrading the instrument as it was that or quit which i did not want to do. sure i will not sound one hell of a lot better for a while but hay i will get there.

[jafar]

This argument has been around for ages. It boils down to plain old jealousy, if they don't like the fact you have a nice bike they have 2 options, buy one themselves or get over it.

Have fun on it, that upsets them even more :2thumbsup

[magicfairy]

Agree with you MG, I know 919CC is wasted on me and I ride like I really should have a 1980's 250, ... my fault for spending too much money on my bike that I can't ride for shit instead of a new car! :bash:

Bollocks Trudi.
I thought you rode bloody well last weekend.
Nice lines, smooth as. Speed isn't everything.
In my humble opinion you are hugely improved since we last rode together. I am the one that rides like a Nana (oh and I am one now, 9lb baby girl last Friday) .. so I am allowed to.

[limbimtimwim]

Agree with you MG, I know 919CC is wasted on me and I ride like I really should have a 1980's 250, but I don't give a shit, if I want to ride to my skill level and stay alive, safe and not crash my pride and joy every couple of thousand KMs, that's my business. Jealous is the word that comes to mind.I know this isn't what you meant, but I did make me think about something.

I wondered if those with bling-mobiles have felt a similar type of jealousy being outskilled (On the track..) by someone riding a piece of shit and being left far behind?

Or is the jealousy different when one is jealous of skill and not the amount of debt/money the other has?

On the odd occasion I've been on both sides of the coin :)

[98tls]

:niceone:not me,i reckon all v-rod owners should mount them to a wall.

[Tank]

To me getting the most out of something is more about getting the maximum enjoyment, not necessarily the most power or speed.

The guy (or gal) that comes in with the biggest grin on their face after a great ride is the one who is truly getting the most from their machine.

[boomer]

I rode a 3 day old 1098S with new pipes on her today.

Boy did i look good and feel good.


What an awesome experience, the whole set up is just so much easier to ride faster and smoother.


did i mention i looked good too?

[fireliv]

Yup I agree

If you can afford a good bike but ride like shit so what, its your choice. THats just life isn't it.

Just be prepared for the ribbing when ure out ridden by a biker who spent half the amount of moola on there bike.

[breakaway]

I thought this was a shit slinging thread aimed at people who on nice bikes but can't ride

**breakaway is dissappointed.

[Drunken Monkey]

Personally, I like to reinforce the fact that I can't ride for shit by turning up on a bike that looks like a dirty pile of junk out of a Suzuki spare-parts bin.

:yes:

..and lockwire. You need to use plenty of lockwire...

[Coyote]

My bike is one of the shittiest around. No matter how I ride I'm riding it well beyond it's supposed capacity :p

I like to think I'm fairly good, the damage has been from being unfortunate, not for me being a stupid rider

[Maha]

I know I can't ride my RSVR like Valentino but I'm not going to apologise for having the money to afford it. I love the look of my bike and it suits my purpose. What's it to you if I never "master it"?

You are absolutely right MotoHurl.....i have taken a few jibes but i have the shoulders to carry such ribbing...i can go out now and purchase any bike i want to but im happy with what i have (most days) and who knows, i might just go get the bike i really want and still ride the same way i do now....:devil2:

[kiwifruit]

I know how you feel motogirl, i'm always getting the learn from 250s / 400s on the track and on the road, people give me shit saying i should be on a 250 myself... i just ignore them :sunny:

[boomer]

I know how you feel motogirl, i'm always getting the learn from 250s / 400s on the track and on the road, people give me shit saying i should be on a 250 myself... i just ignore them :sunny:

you failed to ignore the last person to comment and decided to throw ya 10 down the road in disgust!!! :/

[boomer]

ps.. in reply to the thread..



If you cant ride you should buy a cruiser

NUFF SAID!

[Her_C4]

Hmmm interesting subject. I have been ribbed a lot (not in a nice way either) :blank: about my choice of bike. It doesn't bother me in the slightest that a few opinionated and negative people don't have it in themselves to be pleased for me and / or share in my joy.

I have a nice bike, but realistically I will never ride it to its capacity. So why did I buy it? :devil2:

I bought it because I absolutely love it, the colour, the look, the sound, the speed – because it puts a huge grin on my face every time I go out and I come back having learnt a little more about what it can do (and more importantly what I can do), and last but definitely not least – because I can.
:msn-wink::niceone:

[Mom]

At the end of that day, if someone wants to spend ludicrous amounts of money to ride slower, it doesn't dictate that you have to ride a cruiser or something with less power. The bike you buy and what you do with it is your prerogative. :2thumbsup

Well said that MotoGirl!
Maha man spent a ludicrous amout of money buying my bike too! (i am poor) I cant ride for nuts either (not insinuating that you cant of course....lol), who the hell cares!

For me it is about the being out there, doing it thing. Dont take shit mate, laugh at the mockers......god knows I will have to when I turn up to any kind of ride on my trusty steed!

They are just jealous is all, if not that then envious and pulling your leg in their own hamfisted way!

Stuff them, come up here, we can go for a ride out and the others can leave us for dust!!! That'll learn them!

[James Deuce]

I know 919CC is wasted on me and I ride like I really should have a 1980's 250,

I call Bullshit.

[Mom]

I bought it because I absolutely love it, the colour, the look, the sound, the speed – because it puts a huge grin on my face every time I go out and I come back having learnt a little more about what it can do (and more importantly what I can do), and last but definitely not least – because I can.
:msn-wink::niceone:


Is your one as cool as my teenaged rager?..........LOL.......perhaps we should form a group called "dont diss my ride"

[Coyote]

Do you really have to be able to ride like Rossi to actually deserve to ride the bigger bikes? At what point does your skill coincide with the choice of bike?

I think every bike I won't be riding it to it's fullest, but that's cause I'll upgrade once I've mastered the previous bike (hypocritical to my last remark but that was taking the piss).

[James Deuce]

perhaps we should form a group called "dont diss my ride"

Especially in threads where people are trying to sell the aforementioned ride.

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[Mom]

Especially in threads where people are trying to sell the aforementioned ride.

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She looks beauuuuuuuutiful! Should be a quick sale surely!!! Dissing that would be mean and spiteful!

Want to come riding with us?

PS: did I miss something and someone dissed your ride, (as opposed to pimping it of course) ?

[Finn]

Personally, I like to reinforce the fact that I can't ride for shit by turning up on a bike that looks like a dirty pile of junk out of a Suzuki spare-parts bin.

:yes:

So you got the K7?

[Trudes]

I know this isn't what you meant, but I did make me think about something.

I wondered if those with bling-mobiles have felt a similar type of jealousy being outskilled (On the track..) by someone riding a piece of shit and being left far behind?

Or is the jealousy different when one is jealous of skill and not the amount of debt/money the other has?

On the odd occasion I've been on both sides of the coin :)
I'm not sure what you mean (I am often confused by your posts) but I am definitely jealous of those who ride way better than me on their "piece of shit" or on a 250 for instance, but then I'm not sure really if jealous is the right word, probably more admiration and they inspire me to get better. (?)


Bollocks Trudi.
I thought you rode bloody well last weekend.
Nice lines, smooth as. Speed isn't everything.
In my humble opinion you are hugely improved since we last rode together. I am the one that rides like a Nana (oh and I am one now, 9lb baby girl last Friday) .. so I am allowed to.
Thanks Nana, and congrats!!!

I call Bullshit.
Thanks (I think)!! hehe
I still feel like a noob at times though, or is it just blond dwarfism???

[Mountlocal1]

Hey MotoGirl, Thats bloody intersting. Ive only been on this site for a few months now but have realised one thing pretty quick.. There are some bloody awsome down to earth people on this site.. (like me of course..:whistle:) however there are also some absolute toss pots... I think its farken awsome that you own the bike you do-you are far braver then me. Dont let those toss pots wreck you enjoyn your bike...

[inlinefour]

I reckon its more their problem than what it would ever be the owner of the bike in question. Would make me wonder why they have to bring up silly shit like that though, maybe they should go work harder and buy the bike that they really want, or shut up.

[saul]

Yeh I know what you mean MG and agree totaly, thats why I bought the Poulan:love:

[jrandom]

So you got the K7?

Just wait until you see the mighty Snail in all the glory of its matt black spraypaint, bog, and cracked race fairings with indicators stuck on.

I heard once that guys on shitty-looking bikes are generally expected to surprise riders of flash new motorcycles with their superior skill and hidden horsepower.

I hate stereotypes, so I make a very particular point of riding it very slowly all the time and then forgetting to change the oil. Sometimes, just to add variety, I fall off.

[Chrislost]

i love ripping past 600s/1000s at taupo on the VFR.
even if they do pass me down the back straight
:banana:

[James Deuce]

She looks beauuuuuuuutiful! Should be a quick sale surely!!! Dissing that would be mean and spiteful!

Want to come riding with us?

PS: did I miss something and someone dissed your ride, (as opposed to pimping it of course) ?

I already gut punched Mr Melon when I saw him outside Westpac on Cuba Mall. Problem solved.

I'd LOVE to come riding with you guys, so long as you don't laugh at my chicken strips and ramrod straight back!

[Skyryder]

If there's one thing that all bikers have in common reguardless of age, sports or cruisers you don't have to be able to ride the bike to it fullest potential..........."just look like you can." It's been club rule number one ever since I have been riding and that's more years than I care to mention.

Skyryder

[AllanB]

Better to ride at 70% of the bikes ability than push it along at 110%. The later is only going to hurt sooner.

[mrchips]

I drives my SS like a nana & i don't give a poos, cos i can.

In 8 months & 11 days i'm gonna get my full licence (can't wait) & i can't wait to get me a SV or VTR 1000 & to be bloody honest here people, i can't friggin wait ! & i will still probly ride it like grandad & not thrash it to within an inch of it's life , but i won't give a shit (can't wait).:bleh:

did i mention i can't wait !

[325rocket]

interesting how some people feel they have to shoot others down over things like this. normally they are trying to cover their own inadequacies, or they are just nobs.
I can tell you rite now the next bike on my radar will be way to good for me and my skill level. Really don’t care to be honest, people are more then welcome to talk / laugh behind my back … as I ride off on my brand new 600.

[Mom]

I already gut punched Mr Melon when I saw him outside Westpac on Cuba Mall. Problem solved.

I'd LOVE to come riding with you guys, so long as you don't laugh at my chicken strips and ramrod straight back!

Ok fair enough! I wont laugh about your chicken strips, if you dont laugh about my faffing around finding a flat place to stop, cos my feet dont reach the ground.........and if you laugh about MY chicken strips you will be the one gettting gut punched, trust me........lol

[pritch]

Better to ride at 70% of the bikes ability than push it along at 110%. The later is only going to hurt sooner.

The current crop of litre sportsbikes are of such standard that there are very few who can ride them anywhere near 100%. Those who can are actually quite well paid for doing so and have names like Bayliss, Toseland, and Biaggi.

I was going to say it's highly unlikely there is anybody on KB currently who would qualify but there is maybe just the one. (No! If your name isn't Shaun I didn't mean you :-)

Some people seem to equate the worth of a bike in purely dollar terms but that misses the point totally. I'm not wealthy, but dollars were not the primary consideration in either of my last two purchases. The choices were made because of what I wanted from a bike at the time.

To plagiarise the motto of the local wine club,
"The best bike is the bike you like best."

[Unit]

When the hell am I ever going to outride an 07 ZX14. Im probably the slowest in the country riding one (except maybe a little on the straights :niceone:) I agree there are very few if any at all in this country that can ride to the full performance of the current (and past few years) crop of bikes.
Its about what you enjoy riding, that doesnt mean you have to outride it

[Her_C4]

Ok fair enough! I wont laugh about your chicken strips, if you dont laugh about my faffing around finding a flat place to stop, cos my feet dont reach the ground.........and if you laugh about MY chicken strips you will be the one gettting gut punched, trust me........lol

I assure you that he will be the soul of discretion - if there is any rueful laughing to be done, it will be done together....:niceone:

PS - I can SOOOOOOO relate to the 'finidng a flat spot to stop' ....:msn-wink:

[Kiwifire72]

It seems like a few KB members have issues with those who own a nice bike and can't ride it to its full capacity. Some would consider the bike to be wasted on its owner.

At the end of that day, if someone wants to spend ludicrous amounts of money to mount their V-rod to their wall, good on them. Same goes if they want to own a 1098 and cruise at 90kph. If you want to ride slower, it doesn't dictate that you have to ride a cruiser or something with less power. The bike you buy and what you do with it is your prerogative. :2thumbsup

I know I can't ride my RSVR like Valentino but I'm not going to apologise for having the money to afford it. I love the look of my bike and it suits my purpose. What's it to you if I never "master it"?

I have to agrree
but also what makes a nice bike??????
What I may say is a nice bike one may say is a piece of shit.
and vice versa
so to all that have a nice bike good on ya my Hyosung may be a peice of shit but as far as I am concern it is the best looking bike in NZ

[Highlander]

I regulalry tell people that 4 cylinders is a couple more than really need.

It is all about where YOU are at as a person and a rider.
YOU get the bike YOU like the look / feel of (be that rider postion, and/or performance) at the price YOU are prepared to pay. One that does what YOU want from a bike.
Unles you are a poser, what counts is what YOU think, not what anyone else thinks.

Your money do with it as you please.



I'd LOVE to come riding with you guys, so long as you don't laugh at my chicken strips and ramrod straight back! -Mate you are welcome to ride with me on the Mini's return for as long as you find our styles compatable (I won't laugh at your chicken strips if you don't laugh at mine).

[marty]

Ok fair enough! I wont laugh about your chicken strips, if you dont laugh about my faffing around finding a flat place to stop, cos my feet dont reach the ground.........and if you laugh about MY chicken strips you will be the one gettting gut punched, trust me........lol

you must know the owner of this then....

[Fatjim]

Well now that all the feel good self righteous back slapping is out of the way I'm gonna have to disagree.


But first I want to put some background down. Until recently I owned a 998s which was ridden by yours truely like the biggest blouse in the dress shop. I'm sure everyone who saw me on it thought "what a waste", and rightly so, it was. It's been sold so I can go back to bing known as the guy with the smallest looking firestorm in NZ.


Anyway, when I take the missus and the kids over to Featherston for a touch of brunch in the family wagon I don't expect to be slowed down by a k7 thou on the Rimutukas. I frankly was embarrassed! Especially when the kids start waving at the guy when we overtake it on the shortest passing lane on the hill!

[Bonez]

Well now that all the feel good self righteous back slapping is out of the way I'm gonna have to disagree.


But first I want to put some background down. Until recently I owned a 998s which was ridden by yours truely like the biggest blouse in the dress shop. I'm sure everyone who saw me on it thought "what a waste", and rightly so, it was. It's been sold so I can go back to bing known as the guy with the smallest looking firestorm in NZ.


Anyway, when I take the missus and the kids over to Featherston for a touch of brunch in the family wagon I don't expect to be slowed down by a k7 thou on the Rimutukas. I frankly was embarrassed! Especially when the kids start waving at the guy when we overtake it on the shortest passing lane on the hill!

Did he/she/it look kawl though? After all that is what really matters when out on a bike right?

Edit- Just a thought. It didn't have pedals did it?

[Trudes]

Anyway, when I take the missus and the kids over to Featherston for a touch of brunch in the family wagon I don't expect to be slowed down by a k7 thou on the Rimutukas. I frankly was embarrassed! Especially when the kids start waving at the guy when we overtake it on the shortest passing lane on the hill!

Ok, so was it me or my hubby?
Edit: sok, I just realised you said thou, so that's ok

[MotoGirl]

I bought it because I absolutely love it, the colour, the look, the sound, the speed – because it puts a huge grin on my face every time I go out and I come back having learnt a little more about what it can do (and more importantly what I can do), and last but definitely not least – because I can.
:msn-wink::niceone:

Me thinks I've found my evil twin :devil2:

[doc]

if someone wants to spend ludicrous amounts of money

but its not, if that's what you really want. Food is not as necessary as they have you believe.

[MotoGirl]

Do you really have to be able to ride like Rossi to actually deserve to ride the bigger bikes? At what point does your skill coincide with the choice of bike?

There is no correlation between your choice of bike and your skills. This would mean you had to ride a slower/smaller bike when you're having a shit day's riding :rofl:

[MotoGirl]

... dollars were not the primary consideration in either of my last two purchases. The choices were made because of what I wanted from a bike at the time.

Ditto. My criteria for a replacement bike was a full fairing v-twin, which automatically eliminated anything Japanese. Honda still make the SPs but they're not available in NZ so that didn't leave me many options.

[hospitalfood]

when I think about it I did not ride my CB 350 Four, MVX 250, GSX 400, VF750F, XV 750 or GS 1200 SS to their limits.
I did ride my Honda 90 cc step-through past its limits a few times, and down the road it went.
If I was on a shitter I would not be worrying about chucking it down the road as much, but as I love my nice bike I do not push it, I cannot afford to chuck it down the road, and would not want to if I could.

when passed by better riders on smaller bikes I often compliment them on their skills, and they often compliment me on my ride.
as yet nobody has said I'm not good enough for my bike. must be mixing with good KB'ers I guess.

I think that more time in hospital will stop most people saying things like that anyway.

my reply to someone giving me shit about not having the skills for my bike would have to be " do you like hospital food ?"

[Her_C4]

Me thinks I've found my evil twin :devil2:


he he he - I KNEW you were out there somewhere ...:yes:



but its not, if that's what you really want. Food is not as necessary as they have you believe.

Yes I am sure that I recall telling my children that as I went through an Alfa Romeo phase..... :innocent: Both boys - they understood ...:sunny:

[MotoGirl]

my reply to someone giving me shit about not having the skills for my bike would have to be " do you like hospital food ?"

It's funny you say that actually. Cajun and I discussed this earlier today and came to the conclusion that we ride appropriately for the road. I say "appropriately" because we haven't tasted hospital food or asphalt (from the open road).

Unlike some riders, we recognise that there are certain places to go fast, and for us it's not really on the road. I'll let loose up the Kaimais but tend to restrain myself everywhere else - you need to save that sort of crap for the track. Unfortunately, exercising restraint equates to being a "bad rider".

[Bonez]

It's funny you say that actually. Cajun and I discussed this earlier today and came to the conclusion that we ride appropriately for the road. I say "appropriately" because we haven't tasted hospital food or asphalt (from the open road).

Unlike some riders, we recognise that there are certain places to go fast, and for us it's not really on the road. I'll let loose up the Kaimais but tend to restrain myself everywhere else - you need to save that sort of crap for the track. Unfortunately, exercising restraint equates to being a "bad rider".
Some of us choose to ride smaller capacity bikes for that very same reason.

[James Deuce]

Some of us choose ride smaller capacity bikes for that very same reason.

And have just as much Fun(tm) doing it!

[98tls]

Well now that all the feel good self righteous back slapping is out of the way I'm gonna have to disagree.


But first I want to put some background down. Until recently I owned a 998s which was ridden by yours truely like the biggest blouse in the dress shop. I'm sure everyone who saw me on it thought "what a waste", and rightly so, it was. It's been sold so I can go back to bing known as the guy with the smallest looking firestorm in NZ.


Anyway, when I take the missus and the kids over to Featherston for a touch of brunch in the family wagon I don't expect to be slowed down by a k7 thou on the Rimutukas. I frankly was embarrassed! Especially when the kids start waving at the guy when we overtake it on the shortest passing lane on the hill! Great post,having a sunday arvo/evening bbq here tonight and discussing this thread with a few other bike riding mates,much to the disgust of there better 1/2s,as you say moto girl what you ride has nothing to do with anyone and how much money you spend is the same.After 30 odd bikes and as many years riding them i had reached a point in my riding that no longer required buying the latest and greatest of which over the years i have had many,nothing to do with money,i just spent big dosh on a ute that i could have lived without,more so i settled on an old favourite and got to spending money on and tinkering with in the garage which is a very enjoyable part of motorcycling which seems for many is lost.Some of the people with input to the conversation here ride the latest and greatest and for me anyway provide enjoyable moments in the fact that in some of the good bits i get passed them on a 9 year old bike and because of that on evenings such as this they get the piss taken outta them....so what,harden up.As you say ride what you like,spend what you like,but dont whine when someone goes past you like you were standing still on an old shitter,remember as you say its all about personal choice.In saying this i recently placed an order for my very last new bike........i promised myself i never would but its just one ive got to have.

[Bonez]

And have just as much Fun(tm) doing it!Aha but it appears some just don't GET it ;)

[Highlander]

Unfortunately, exercising restraint equates to being a "bad rider".

If that is the mindset of those you ride with, I sugest you find some new riding budies quick smart.

[DMNTD]

... I love the look of my bike and it suits my purpose...
Which is?


Unfortunately, exercising restraint equates to being a "bad rider".

Hell I hope you're not referring to any of the TGA Crew :confused:

[McJim]

I had permission from my missus to upgrade recently and didn't.

Instead I bought her a 2003 Ford Falcon and a 2006 GSX750F.

I'm pleased with my decision coz I am reaching the point where I thrash the nuts off my Ducati 600. I took her 750 for a spin this evening and found my self doing licence losing speeds most of the time.

My self restraint is poor and as such it is best I stick to my li'l 53hp baby.

I have the greatest respect for those who buy these performance machines and have the restraint to keep their licences.

[MotoGirl]

Which is?



Hell I hope you're not referring to any of the TGA Crew :confused:

Confidential! :rofl: I don't have to justify my choice of bike to anyone but I will humour you. My purpose was owning a bike that better suited my riding style (which, yes, has changed over the past couple of years). It HAD to be a v-twin because I don't enjoy revving things.

I wanted something capable of handling the way I can ride (should I choose to) but something I can also pootle on. I have a good time between 120 and 130, but I also love being up in the mid to late 200s (on closed airstriproads of course). A GN250 doesn't quite manage that!

[Morcs]

Of course there are many sides of it.

Having a nice bike and being a poser is fine.

But im not a fan of anyone who thinks they are rossi because theyve just gone and bought the best bike and the best gear and look really hard out...

Of course its none of my business...

but

Westies ZXR400 - $500
Rough as paint job - $0
Homemade paddock stands - $0

Going round the outside of a $50,000 tricolore ducati 1098 - PRICELESS

:lol:

[MotoGirl]

:eek: At least you'd have a better chance of being able to touch the ground!

Oh and were you referring to any of the TGA Crew?

I borrowed a fucken scooter while my bike was in the shop and even Cajun (you know, at 6'2") couldn't touch the ground flat footed on it. I'm not going to buy a bike simply because I can touch the ground on it. This would mean sacrificing what I actually want in a bike.

[Mom]

you must know the owner of this then....

At least you did not ask if it was mine..........<_<

Nope, never seen such a thang before..........have you checked with Jim2?

[MotoGirl]

Having a nice bike and being a poser is fine.
Yes. Whether the owner is a "poser" depends purely on the his or her reason for owing the bike.




Going round the outside of a $50,000 tricolore ducati 1098 - PRICELESS

:lol:

I know precisely what you're saying. I did the same thing round a Haga replica Aprilia on my stock standard VTR (and God it felt good!).

[Skunk]

Agree with you MG, I know 919CC is wasted on me and I ride like I really should have a 1980's 250I've got a 1980's 250 and it's still a better bike than I am a rider.

[98tls]

Yes. Whether the owner is a "poser" depends purely on the his or her reason for owing the bike.



I know precisely what you're saying. I did the same thing round a Haga replica Aprilia on my stock standard VTR (and God it felt good!). :clap:nice.............

[McDuck]

I agree. If sombody buys a bike becasue they want the bike for a reason then that is cool. If they buy it because they want a ducati superbike then the chances are they are a poser want want ti for the wrong reason. Like ferraris you can buy it becase you want the car or you want the image.

[McJim]

I agree. If sombody buys a bike becasue they want the bike for a reason then that is cool. If they buy it because they want a ducati superbike then the chances are they are a poser want want ti for the wrong reason. Like ferraris you can buy it becase you want the car or you want the image.

Why is it always Ducati owners that get the finger pointed at them first whenever posing or cappuccino gets mentioned? I ask purely for informational purposes you understand. :rofl:

[McDuck]

Why is it always Ducati owners that get the finger pointed at them first whenever posing or cappuccino gets mentioned? I ask purely for informational purposes you understand. :rofl:

esey to spell.

[jrandom]

I don't poke fun at MotoGirl because she rides a nice bike.

I poke fun at her because she rides an Aprilia.

I mean, honestly. Who rides Aprilias?

That's not even posing.

It's just bad taste.

[McDuck]

I don't poke fun at MotoGirl because she rides a nice bike.

I poke fun at her because she rides an Aprilia.

I mean, honestly. Who rides Aprilias?



MOTOGIRL..... it must be an AK thing

[McJim]

It's just bad taste.

So don't lick bikes.

[98tls]

Why is it always Ducati owners that get the finger pointed at them first whenever posing or cappuccino gets mentioned? I ask purely for informational purposes you understand. :rofl: Must be a red thing,:rolleyes:As a survivor of ownership of possibly the worst Duc ever built,89 750 SPORT,on the odd ocassion i managed with gritted teeth and an impossible belief in days gone by managed to get it in front of a mate on a early 90s gixxer 750 over the Rimituka {spelling} hill but still suffered the same opinions.

[justsomeguy]

Grow a thicker skin girl.

There will always be idiots around. Tall poppy syndrome, jealousy, who cares.... it can only get to you if you let it.

To all those who wish they had nicer bikes - just work a bit smarter and harder and you too will be able to afford one soon.

[McDuck]

Grow a thicker skin girl.

There will always be idiots around. Tall poppy syndrome, jealousy, who cares.... it can only get to you if you let it.

To all those who wish they had nicer bikes - just work a bit smarter and harder and you too will be able to afford one soon.

I would like to point out that it is easy for somebody who has a nice bike to say that....

[Katman]

Could you improve on an absolute hunk of shit? No, not really. I am an instrumentalist (cello) and until a little while ago i thought i was at the end of my talent because it was sounding shit. After trialing a new cello it was the crap cello not the crap me, so i am upgrading the instrument as it was that or quit which i did not want to do. sure i will not sound one hell of a lot better for a while but hay i will get there.

You'll have to excuse the Philistines here mcduck - they're still looking for their dictionaries to see what that word 'cello' means.:msn-wink:

[justsomeguy]

I would like to point out that it is easy for somebody who has a nice bike to say that....

I started off on a $1700 bike.

Crashed my latest bike, didn't finish arranging the insurance, so didn't have any at the time and lost over $15,000 in bike and gear.

Only have my shoes and trains to get around now.

I am not rich, nor do I have a high paying job yet. But I am working on it and should have enough money to get back into bikes in a year or two, even sooner if I can't resist and get something on HP.

We all need to start somewhere, not all the people on nice bikes inherit the money or marry into it.

[Highlander]

You'll have to excuse the Philistines here mcduck - they're still looking for their dictionaries to see what that word 'cello' means.:msn-wink:

I just thought it was a typo and the LEMON part was missing from the front

[Mrs Busa Pete]

I rode a 3 day old 1098S with new pipes on her today.

Boy did i look good and feel good.


What an awesome experience, the whole set up is just so much easier to ride faster and smoother.


did i mention i looked good too?



If that made you look good dunk then i would buy it because that dosn't happen very often :hug:

[saul]

Oh and were you referring to any of the TGA Crew?

lol I doubt that mate all the guys that I know in the Tga crew would be happy riding with anyone who has a bike of any sort and certainly I have never heard comments about fast being important. :no:

Being safe and looking out for your mates is important.

[QUOTE=MotoGirl;1301256]Yes. Whether the owner is a "poser" depends purely on the his or her reason for owing the bike.QUOTE]

There are a few of us around:bleh:

[BMW]

agreed. Never hassle anyone on a bike cause they actually ride! I love riders, all of them! from the 1098 type to the Harleys!

They are out there riding which is what matters!

[Blue Thunder]

This argument has been around for ages. It boils down to plain old jealousy, if they don't like the fact you have a nice bike they have 2 options, buy one themselves or get over it.

Have fun on it, that upsets them even more :2thumbsup


Hear Hear, what someone rides is their choice. :jerry:

[terbang]

Fark I ride an overgrown traillie like a gandma (and love it). looks like no sex for me then...

[Mikkel]

I think one should take any comment about riding skills coming from anyone pulling track-moves on the public road with a pinch of salt.

And from what I've seen so far it doesn't matter too much whether you're riding a bucket of shit or the newest flashiest piece of kit. Who's faster on the public roads (if there's traffic about) comes down to the level of compromise between balls and brains coupled with a good amount of luck.
I'd prefer to take advice from people who have ridden for at least a decade, not my peers (some of whom are bloody insane from the looks of it).

I ride a 250cc - will I ever manage to ride it to its full potential, I doubt it.
Am I looking forward to getting my full license and a bigger bike - you can bet on it!
Will it make me go significantly faster - I doubt that very much, but it will make my passings quicker.

Good on ya if you can afford the bike that you want.
Good on ya if you like something you can afford.
Shame on you if you can not respect other people's choices.

[yungatart]

Being an older person who is relatively new to biking, somewhat cautious and having remembered the pain and bloody inconvenience of falling off, I will never ride to the limits of my bike!
Who gives a shit? Not me!
I might not be a great rider, but I'm shit loads better than those who don't ride at all!

[Big Dave]

I think you'll find that there are very few riders who can extract the maximum from a modern sports bike - and survive for very long.

They are either walking, bussing or pushing up daisies.

[Kendog]

I bought it because I absolutely love it, the colour, the look, the sound, the speed – because it puts a huge grin on my face every time I go out and I come back having learnt a little more about what it can do (and more importantly what I can do), and last but definitely not least – because I can.
:msn-wink::niceone:

That sums up my feelings on this topic perfectly. We buy the bike for ourselves, not for others.

[DMNTD]

We buy the bike for ourselves, not for others.

100% agreed...sadly though there are others out there that buy bikes to impress others. :yawn:
It's not how you ride it,it's the fact that you do!

[MrMelon]

I already gut punched Mr Melon when I saw him outside Westpac on Cuba Mall. Problem solved.

I'd LOVE to come riding with you guys, so long as you don't laugh at my chicken strips and ramrod straight back!

You punch like a girl Jim!

[janno]

What I have noticed is the really beautiful riders, the ones with such skill and talent that they look like they were born on a bike, are the ones who are just pleased that ANYONE is on a bike, no matter what it is. The try-hards and the little man syndrome sufferers are the ones who become the bike nazis over who is worthy of their bike or not.

I have had the pleasure of interviewing three world class riders this year when writing for an aussie mag, and all of them were so un-snobby about bikes it was a real breath of fresh air. I think they of anyone have earned the right to judge.

Try-hards are just tiring. And I think usually what they obsess about in others is what they are sensitive about in themselves.

[007XX]

That sums up my feelings on this topic perfectly. We buy the bike for ourselves, not for others.


100% agreed...sadly though there are others out there that buy bikes to impress others. :yawn:
It's not how you ride it,it's the fact that you do!

Very well put you two...:yes:

I am sad to report though that i have met people who bought bikes way above their skill level (not KBers btw), and then rode them like they saw Rossi do on telly...or tried to...and proceeded to injur themselves in the process.

I guess the only good thing in this is that they only hurt themselves and no one else. I'm not saying I was glad to see them hurt (heck no!), but this was the only thing that actually stopped them and made them realise the error they were making.

[MotoGirl]

somewhat cautious and having remembered the pain and bloody inconvenience of falling off, I will never ride to the limits of my bike!

I'm hoping that time will fade the memories of weeks without skin (albeit tiny holes) and just generally being bloody uncomfortable! :Oops: I don't actually want to learn my limits; to do so would mean first exceeding them and saying "whoopsie, my limit was back there somewhere!"

That's the thing about owning a bike that's so much more capable than I am. Quite simply, it'll handle everything I'll ever throw at it.

[limbimtimwim]

That sums up my feelings on this topic perfectly. We buy the bike for ourselves, not for others.Ahhhhh.. But those who do deserve a kick in the teeth.

[skelstar]

Sorry but most of you guys are missing the point.

The reason why I want the rider of the 07 RSV Factory infront of me to ride fast is because I might aspire to have one in the future (for example) and I want to ride and to be seen riding fast. How can i aspire to having a bike where the riders/owners are pedestrian paced cafe commuters?

If you owned an MV Agusta F4 312 blah blah, would you want to see ten of them being used for super market shopping in Ponsonby?

[MotoGirl]

If you owned an MV Agusta F4 312 blah blah, would you want to see ten of them being used for super market shopping in Ponsonby?

Until recently, there was a guy in Tauranga who'd never taken his 1098 out of town. It was like a two wheeled shopping cart.

At least if you're considering such a bike you'd have plenty of time to admire it :Pokey:

[McJim]

, I will never ride to the limits of my bike!


Lies I tell you - I've seen your lack of chicken strips - in fact it looked like your bike had had the exhaust down on a right hander!

(sorry about the exhaust by the way)

[dipshit]

The reason why I want the rider of the 07 RSV Factory infront of me to ride fast is because I might aspire to have one in the future (for example) and I want to ride and to be seen riding fast. How can i aspire to having a bike where the riders/owners are pedestrian paced cafe commuters?

If perceived image is the reason you want to purchase a particular bike, then that makes you the poseur. When I ride, I ride for my own enjoyment at my own pace (whatever that may be) and I could not give a flying fuck what others may think regardless of what bike I may choose to own. The moment you start riding to "impress" your mates or show off to other road users, you enter a very dangerous zone.



If you owned an MV Agusta F4 312 blah blah, would you want to see ten of them being used for super market shopping in Ponsonby?

Why not? That would be totally cool by me!

[James Deuce]

You punch like a girl Jim!
Yes. Life has been cruel to me!

[pritch]

from the 1098 type to the Harleys!
They are out there riding which is what matters!

Well not necessarily. When McJim mentioned people picking on Ducati first I thought, "No it's usually Harleys."

There are people who own them basically so they can say they have one and they don't ride them much, if at all.

When this sort of thing arises my thoughts go first to all the mid-life crisis, professional types, with their Harleys.

Don't get me wrong, I like Harleys too. I'm just not quite ready for one yet.

[Pwalo]

I don't 'get it'. Why are you even bothering to worry about what other people think about what bike you ride, or how you ride it?

You may as well got out and buy a well known brand of cruiser if other peoples' opinions matter that much. And where is the fun in that.

[The Pastor]

actually last sat week, i met the two doorknobs that bought the 8k zxr 250's from red barron. that was a laugh.

[imdying]

If perceived image is the reason you want to purchase a particular bike, then that makes you the poseur. When I ride, I ride for my own enjoyment at my own pace (whatever that may be) and I could not give a flying fuck what others may think regardless of what bike I may choose to own. The moment you start riding to "impress" your mates or show off to other road users, you enter a very dangerous zone.Yep... buy the bikes you like, ride em how you like. If I win lotto, I'm gonna buy a 312 to smash with a sledgehammer, just piss all the moaners off. Then I'm gonna take the motor and put it into a minichopper :scooter:


actually last sat week, i met the two doorknobs that bought the 8k zxr 250's from red barron. that was a laugh.Being young and getting ripped off doesn't make them doorknobs, it just makes Red Baron opportunistic wankers.

[Elise]

It seems like a few KB members have issues with those who own a nice bike and can't ride it to its full capacity. Some would consider the bike to be wasted on its owner.

At the end of that day, if someone wants to spend ludicrous amounts of money to mount their V-rod to their wall, good on them. Same goes if they want to own a 1098 and cruise at 90kph. If you want to ride slower, it doesn't dictate that you have to ride a cruiser or something with less power. The bike you buy and what you do with it is your prerogative. :2thumbsup

I know I can't ride my RSVR like Valentino but I'm not going to apologise for having the money to afford it. I love the look of my bike and it suits my purpose. What's it to you if I never "master it"?


Agreed..

Then again, when it comes to Learner rider’s who buy a expensive, fast, mint cond 250 (and in some cases an even bigger bike because they lack common sense), without the knowledge of basic handling/ riding skills etc, only to damage themselves or worse the bike.. it pays sometimes to start low and work your way up and develop your skills, even if you have all the money in the world to buy the most expensive, most amazing bike out there. Riding performance is not so much the bike, but the rider anyway.

[The Pastor]

i'll have to agree with you there, but i dont see how two people can justify spending twice the market value on some shitty 250's.

but hey if they have money to burn its up to them.

red barron wankers or genius? what you reckon they payed for the bikes 1k? 2k? paint job? 1k? 1.5k?

thats alot of profit there.

still kinda feel bad for them. (the new owners)

[Mikkel]

Another thought... a nice bike won't stay nice unless the person riding it knows how to ride. And sometimes you'll find that the ones who claim the opposite are the ones with aftermarket fairings and an intimate relationship with their insurance broker ;)

[The Pastor]

Short term profit = long term loss....also bad karma man :doobey:
as they say, there is a sucker born every minnute. I never have liked red barron, they lie to me all the time lol. so do all bike shops, but red barron are the worst, but I do get good service when I walk into the shop always they will come up and start feeding me the bullshit. - lots of other stores just ignore me.

[Pancakes]

............... Unfortunately, exercising restraint equates to being a "bad rider".

You mean you think the haters look down on those who buy a bike and don't use all the speed on tap? Or all the handling? Even those who crash are normally past their own limits but quite often not past the limits of the bike. They just gave the machine the wrong input and made it crash, it doesn't think after all.

I think showing restaint is displaying a more deliberate technique than the ones who open the tap wide on the straights and hit the picks at the end. Holding a steady constant gets you less attention from the po-po and unless your trying to show the newly polished ride off past as many cafe's as possible the speed shouldn't be to expensive and probably not fast enough to lose your licence if you know where the corners are that are worth riding!


Some of us choose to ride smaller capacity bikes for that very same reason.

I'm enjoying the Hyosung as much or more than some of the other bikes I've had just due to the big picture my life is at the moment. Learning lots and hope to keep learning.

I really hate it tho whan people look at my bike and think they know me or how I ride. I don't think someones a wanker just cos they have priortised things or are in a position to get their dream bike.

[MidnightMike]

I'll let loose up the Kaimais but tend to restrain myself everywhere else - you need to save that sort of crap for the track. Unfortunately, exercising restraint equates to being a "bad rider".

I really dont need to comment very much now, you just summed up exactly what I was going to say lol. :bleh:

I have to agree with the fact that its fine to by a bike that is capable of much more than you will ever throw at it, if its your choice, great! Thats probably what will happen when I finally decide to go to a litre bike, or whatever my next one will be. However, for now and untill next march im quite happy blasting up the kaimais doing what my bike wasnt made for and having an absolute blast doing so. But this will, of course, really be the only place where I will push my bike to its limit, as thats the road on which I know every corner, bump etc. Everywhere else I'm quite happy just pootling along, enjoying the bike ive got and the riding experience! :woohoo:

[MotoGirl]

However, for now and untill next march im quite happy blasting up the kaimais doing what my bike wasnt made for and having an absolute blast doing so. But this will, of course, really be the only place where I will push my bike to its limit, as thats the road on which I know every corner, bump etc.

You're starting to sound like you're really coming to grips with it! Hopefully when you get another bike you'll have to learn it so I might have a couple of months of being in front left :clap:

I'd probably liken my riding up the Kaimais to how I used to ride on the track. I've seen guys with their knee down so I can obviously go faster yet :devil2:

[jrandom]

I've seen guys with their knee down so I can obviously go faster yet :devil2:

Knee down only equals faster if you're using all the lean angle your bike has available.

If their knee was not actually sandwiched between the road and the fairing, then it doesn't mean a lot.

[kiwifruit]

Knee down only equals faster if you're using all the lean angle your bike has available.

If their knee was not actually sandwiched between the road and the fairing, then it doesn't mean a lot.

Go fast advice with Jay Random
Workshops available for negotiable fees (favors)

[jrandom]

Go fast advice with Jay Random
Workshops available for negotiable fees (favors)

Yes. Bow before my wisdom.

You actually go slower with your knee down, mister leakybob italypants.

I have seen it with mine eyes.

[kiwifruit]

Yes. Bow before my wisdom.

You actually go slower with your knee down, mister leakybob italypants.

I have seen it with mine eyes.

Bollocks.
Since mastering the knee down i have advanced noticeably.
Never before could i brake really hard entering a corner, until i mastered the knee down. Now i can enter corners knee down hard on the brakes.
I find the knee down is a great lean angle gauge.
I've become faster and smoother since mastering the all fathomable knee down.
(^ track riding, such riding is not encouraged on public roads)

Slower on the road, when "knee down at all costs" is involved, maybe... but have you considered the pie flavored; if you've seen me with a knee down its cos i'm going slow to show you some sparks? :) hence looks slower and less natural, etc etc

[jrandom]

if you've seen me with a knee down its cos i'm going slow to show you some sparks?

:love:

:pinch:

:D

[Goblin]

Unlike some riders, we recognise that there are certain places to go fast, and for us it's not really on the road. I'll let loose up the Kaimais but tend to restrain myself everywhere else - you need to save that sort of crap for the track. Unfortunately, exercising restraint equates to being a "bad rider".



I'd probably liken my riding up the Kaimais to how I used to ride on the track. I've seen guys with their knee down so I can obviously go faster yet :devil2:Yes, you mentioned you like to let loose up the Kaimais. Has to be one of the more hazardous roads around tho, what with all the traffic, double lanes, heaps of trucks, buses spilling oil and diesel an cowshit all the time....but if that's where you liken your track riding to then all the best of luck.

Does anyone ever let loose down the Kaimais?

I think as long as you enjoy your riding then it doesn't really matter what others think does it?

[owner]

On sat coro GP, I followed a repsol blade into tairua from whitianga
very tight stuff, I was hanging off like a friggin monkey.... left... right, getting the odd scccarpp on the sliders thinkn Im bloody Sam Smith and when look up the bloody guy in front is casual as sitting solid in the middle of the seat. FARK
I wish I was a owner of nice bike who cant ride,(instead of medium bike medium class)would be alot safer, less demoralising when you get owned and less expensive. To any owners of nice bikes who cant ride I admire your self preservation/restraint and mint bike and filthy missus

[yungatart]

Lies I tell you - I've seen your lack of chicken strips - in fact it looked like your bike had had the exhaust down on a right hander!

(sorry about the exhaust by the way)

Kinda let slip that I am not the one responsible for the lack of chicken strips on my bike, there, McJim.....
You are forgiven, as to err is human, but to forgive is Divine!!

[DMNTD]

On sat coro GP, I followed a repsol blade into tairua from whitianga
very tight stuff, I was hanging off like a friggin monkey.... left... right, getting the odd scccarpp on the sliders thinkn Im bloody Sam Smith and when look up the bloody guy in front is casual as sitting solid in the middle of the seat. FARK
I wish I was a owner of nice bike who cant ride,(instead of medium bike medium class)would be alot safer, less demoralising when you get owned and less expensive. To any owners of nice bikes who cant ride I admire your self preservation/restraint and mint bike and filthy missus

LOL...so you met Steve(BB2) eh. He's a bastard like that man!

[NotaGoth]

I couldn't even ride a minimoto to its full potential, let alone my RG.










Despite that fact once I have my full licence I will still be buying the bike that I want, why not? I only live once. May as well enjoy it, which I will despite my nana like abilities.

[Finn]

LOL...so you met Steve(BB2) eh. He's a bastard like that man!

Hey, it was me.

[McDuck]

I keeping with the thread i have said that a bike is a wast on a person not the way they ride it, the way the care for it. A ducati needs respect not just chucking somthing on the tank be it a pie or a se of keys etc. If you love your big bike but can not ride for shit i dont have aproblem..

[Finn]

I keeping with the thread i have said that a bike is a wast on a person not the way they ride it, the way the care for it. A ducati needs respect not just chucking somthing on the tank be it a pie or a se of keys etc. If you love your big bike but can not ride for shit i dont have aproblem..

Jesus Christ.

[McDuck]

Jesus Christ.

wot? cnt u under shtand dat?

Ok i will say it again.

A bike is a waste on a person if they do not maintain and care for it properly.

There?
Happy?
well?
Are you?
Want to scrap?
There is a good chance i am bigger than you?
And my bike is a sword???????????????????????????

[Finn]

And my bike is a sword???????????????????????????

It was in it's day, but now its just a rusted dagger.

[Maha]

Jesus Christ.


Yeah he Lurks on here too

[jrandom]

Since mastering the knee down i have advanced noticeably.

OK, here is exhibit A (http://www.bikestore.co.nz/pics/gallery/Pukekohe%20-%20AMCC%20Round%201/AMCC_280.jpg).

Observe how Chris has left his knee tucked against the fairing, but has actually shifted his central body mass over further and is leaning harder than Nick, who has his knee poking out in best accepted style, but... isn't winning the race...

I'm just sayin'.

Knee out and down does not automatically mean better cornering.

Not that I'm making excuses for myself, mind you. I couldn't possibly ride at anywhere near a proper race pace. But, in my own mind, sitting here at my desk, I am powering sideways out of the hairpin at Phillip Island, knees tucked firmly against the bike and left hand raised in salute to my adoring fans...

*drifts off into a reverie*

[blade1000]

good on you i agree 100 % with you

[McDuck]

It was in it's day, but now its just a rusted dagger.

It would still cut you down big time little man :laugh:

[MotoGirl]

Has to be one of the more hazardous roads around tho, what with all the traffic, double lanes, heaps of trucks, buses spilling oil and diesel an cowshit all the time....but if that's where you liken your track riding to then all the best of luck.

I never saw these things in the 17 years of living on them and riding them on a very regular basis, so I'm confident there are more dangerous roads around. Let me think of an example... Hmm, ANY COUNTRY ROAD? Old Te Aroha road is shocking for loose stock and effluent just to name one example.

But hey, my bad for picking a road with a good surface, loads of visibility and plenty of room. Plus, anyone who rides up in the left-hand lane is asking for trouble.

[jrandom]

... anyone who rides up in the left-hand lane at the kind of warp speeds I consider merely pedestrian is asking for trouble. Bring it on, pussies, I'll own you all.

That's quite enough trash talking from you, missy.

jrandom and MotoGirl, up the Kaimais, road R. A. C. I. N. G.

Loser buys Speights for afterwards, Neal can referee.

[Goblin]

Old Te Aroha road is shocking for loose stock and effluent just to name one example.
Dont forget the drunken yokels heading home from the pub. :spudguita:whistle:

[Bonez]

Hmm, ANY COUNTRY ROAD? Old Te Aroha road is shocking for loose stock and effluent just to name one example.
Adds a little danger to riding doesn't it? You do get into a habit of scanning for such dangers after a while. Sure beats staying on the main roads. Riding in a restrained manner does reduce ones chances in having an off though.

[MotoGirl]

Adds a little danger riding doesn't it? You do get into a habit of scanning for such dangers after a while. Sure bets staying on the main roads.

The Kaimais is one main road worthwhile handling :wari:

[Bonez]

The Kaimais is one main road worthwhile handling :wari:I am familiar with it. I trust your "restraint" goes out the window when you ride it ;)

[ambler]

I guess it depends what you mean by "can't"... generally I find that the nicer the bike I am on, the more I "can't" ride it - especially when I am the one who paid for it!

[MotoGirl]

I guess it depends what you mean by "can't"... generally I find that the nicer the bike I am on, the more I "can't" ride it - especially when I am the one who paid for it!

Now you're cooking! It's not good destroying something that could've been the deposit on a second house.

[laRIKin]

Ride what ever puts a smile on YOUR face.

It does not really matter if it is a Cruiser, Sports, Duel, Standard, MX or a Tourer.
It does not matter if it is $1500 or a $45000 bike.
As our pockets have different depths and different out going's.

As long as it is safe and reliable to ride.

I'm not going to say what it looks like as there are some good looking RAT bikes out there.

What happened to RAT bikes, I have not seen one for along time?

[saul]

Bollocks.
Since mastering the knee down i have advanced noticeably.
Never before could i brake really hard entering a corner, until i mastered the knee down. Now i can enter corners knee down hard on the brakes.
I find the knee down is a great lean angle gauge.
I've become faster and smoother since mastering the all fathomable knee down.
(^ track riding, such riding is not encouraged on public roads)

Slower on the road, when "knee down at all costs" is involved, maybe... but have you considered the pie flavored; if you've seen me with a knee down its cos i'm going slow to show you some sparks? :) hence looks slower and less natural, etc etc

Yes quite right, it is after all only proper that when one has mastered the knee down, it is indeed knee down at all costs:bleh::niceone: lol.

Now you have to master knee down not so much to save tity sliders

You rock mr Fruit hehehehehehehe.

[saul]

LOL...so you met Steve(BB2) eh. He's a bastard like that man!

Lol yep + 1 for sure:laugh:

[saul]

OK, here is exhibit A (http://www.bikestore.co.nz/pics/gallery/Pukekohe%20-%20AMCC%20Round%201/AMCC_280.jpg).

Observe how Chris has left his knee tucked against the fairing, but has actually shifted his central body mass over further and is leaning harder than Nick, who has his knee poking out in best accepted style, but... isn't winning the race...

I'm just sayin'.

Knee out and down does not automatically mean better cornering.

Not that I'm making excuses for myself, mind you. I couldn't possibly ride at anywhere near a proper race pace. But, in my own mind, sitting here at my desk, I am powering sideways out of the hairpin at Phillip Island, knees tucked firmly against the bike and left hand raised in salute to my adoring fans...

*drifts off into a reverie*

Hope peeps are looking at exhibit A its a great shot:niceone:

[MidnightMike]

Yes, you mentioned you like to let loose up the Kaimais. Has to be one of the more hazardous roads around tho, what with all the traffic, double lanes, heaps of trucks, buses spilling oil and diesel an cowshit all the time....but if that's where you liken your track riding to then all the best of luck.

Definately not one of the more hazardous....

Traffic? - Only during holiday season, and also sometimes during 4:30-6:00pm
Trucks? - Usually, but never more than two or three on a single trip up the matamata side.
Doublelanes? - More allowance for us to overtake etc, and if you take a corner too quickly and need more road, such as in the case of the right handers, it can come in use if necessary.
Buses spilling oil/deisel/cowshit? - Only seen a small truck shit itself halfway up once before, mid corner too, which was a bit of surprise, it made a small mess, but nothing major. Never any cowshit, its the squished possums and boxes of beer you have to keep an eye out for.



Does anyone ever let loose down the Kaimais?

Use to, good for making your tyres all rough and strippy, or whatever you call it, but not much use for anything else, you have to work a lot harder round the corners going downhill too, and theres the odd bump on corner exits on the way down that can be a bit dodgy to say the least. The worst thing would have to be the visibility around 2 of the "55" left handers, as they are closing radius slower vehicles come up reaaally fast if your fanging it down.

Still a mint part of road however, and thats the reason why I used to go up there 3-4 times a week.


LOL...so you met Steve(BB2) eh. He's a bastard like that man!

Forget grinding your pegs, he scrapes through his engine casing!!!! :shit:


-Mike

[babyblade250rr]

It seems like a few KB members have issues with those who own a nice bike and can't ride it to its full capacity. Some would consider the bike to be wasted on its owner.

At the end of that day, if someone wants to spend ludicrous amounts of money to mount their V-rod to their wall, good on them. Same goes if they want to own a 1098 and cruise at 90kph. If you want to ride slower, it doesn't dictate that you have to ride a cruiser or something with less power. The bike you buy and what you do with it is your prerogative. :2thumbsup

I know I can't ride my RSVR like Valentino but I'm not going to apologise for having the money to afford it. I love the look of my bike and it suits my purpose. What's it to you if I never "master it"?


Totally agree with ya here ms!! hmmm perhaps i'll mount my R6 to the wall, Now that would be coooollllll!!!!:niceone:

[EJK]

Yep this thread is for you Mr. I-ve-got-the-R6 lol

[McJim]

OK, here is exhibit A (http://www.bikestore.co.nz/pics/gallery/Pukekohe%20-%20AMCC%20Round%201/AMCC_280.jpg).

Observe how Chris has left his knee tucked against the fairing, but has actually shifted his central body mass over further and is leaning harder than Nick, who has his knee poking out in best accepted style, but... isn't winning the race...


Makes my avatar effort look pretty lame eh? Yup - it's the same corner as in my Avatar.

[NUTBAR]

100% agreed...sadly though there are others out there that buy bikes to impress others. :yawn:
It's not how you ride it,it's the fact that you do!

cant see how i would impress anybody with my bike,
i just like seeing the look on there faces when i slam the pegs down.:2thumbsup:whistle:

takes time to learn your bike, yes i said learn your bike!
as most people know every bike handles different,
i have seen some interesting sites on the road.
people that look way too small or to big for there bikes & yet they ride them like they are part of them.
it takes a lot of kms on the bike to learn what it can do, what you can do.
never give up, just ride!:2thumbsup

[MotoGirl]

people that look way too small or to big for there bikes & yet they ride them like they are part of them.

I don't know what you're talking about :stupid:

[NUTBAR]

I don't know what you're talking about :stupid:

shhh, dmtd might think im talking about some of the tga crew.:innocent:

[Goblin]

Definately not one of the more hazardous....

Traffic? - Only during holiday season, and also sometimes during 4:30-6:00pm
Trucks? - Usually, but never more than two or three on a single trip up the matamata side.
Doublelanes? - More allowance for us to overtake etc, and if you take a corner too quickly and need more road, such as in the case of the right handers, it can come in use if necessary.
Buses spilling oil/deisel/cowshit? - Only seen a small truck shit itself halfway up once before, mid corner too, which was a bit of surprise, it made a small mess, but nothing major. Never any cowshit, its the squished possums and boxes of beer you have to keep an eye out for.

Still a mint part of road however, and thats the reason why I used to go up there 3-4 times a week.

-MikeYou have a lot to learn grasshopper.
There is so much more to motocycling than the Waikato side of the Kaimai hill.

[DMNTD]

shhh, dmtd might think im talking about some of the tga crew.:innocent:

But there's only one that's too small for their bike,isn't there? :whistle:

[MidnightMike]

You have a lot to learn grasshopper.
There is so much more to motocycling than the Waikato side of the Kaimai hill.

Really? I thought that was the only purpose for bikes??? :motu: (sarcasm)

Jeez..... Just because I haven't had the time lately to go on all the coro loops in the weekends, and the fact that I enjoy going for a bit of a blat out that way in no way makes me a little noob who only ever rides the same road continuously - just felt like putting some more into a post than normal.

ps. sorry for the little hijack there Addle.

[Goblin]

Really? I thought that was the only purpose for bikes??? :motu: (sarcasm)Settle Petal....no need to get ya knickers in a twist. I'm just trying to point out that the Kaimai hill IS in fact a dangerous piece of highway. Sure it's fun but complacency invites danger. When you know the road like the back of your hand and think you can go at track speeds up there all the time you're just asking for trouble. What's wrong with challenging yourself to ride roads you've never ridden before? Scared you might get lost? Frightened because you cant see the exit of a corner? There are so many awesome roads around the Tauranga area but I can see why some people only like main highways. How can one be "seen" on anything but a main highway? I mean for some it's ALL about being seen looking good and how many cars they can pass. Each to their own eh.:msn-wink:

Back to the topic...who's to say that someone's old bike isn't just as precious to them as your brand new flash bike is to you? It's not about all the money one spends on their enjoyment. For me it's all about the anonymity and getting away from the traffic and main roads. The beauty of B-roads is that you dont need an audience to enjoy your bike so it dosent matter what you look like.

[MotoGirl]

What's wrong with challenging yourself to ride roads you've never ridden before? Scared you might get lost? Frightened because you cant see the exit of a corner? There are so many awesome roads around the Tauranga area...
Definitely. This is why I can't understand why some people only ever do the Coro loop :spudwhat:

Personally, I like to vary the direction that I ride in and try to avoid going in the same direction two rides in a row. I've had some days where the bike and me haven't been able to gel, I've felt miserable, and then after travelling my favourite road have come home with a stupid grin on my face feeling totally elated. :wari:

My point is that there's no harm in riding the same road continuously if that's what you want to do and it gives you a buzz. This is the point of this thread.

[Disco Dan]

Also give people an oppurtunity to show how 'humble' they are!

[Goblin]

Definitely. This is why I can't understand why some people only ever do the Coro loop :spudwhat:

Personally, I like to vary the direction that I ride in and try to avoid going in the same direction two rides in a row. I've had some days where the bike and me haven't been able to gel, I've felt miserable, and then after travelling my favourite road have come home with a stupid grin on my face feeling totally elated. :wari:

My point is that there's no harm in riding the same road continuously if that's what you want to do and it gives you a buzz. This is the point of this thread.Absolutely! As long as you're having fun on your bike then what does it matter what anyone else thinks or says?

[MotoGirl]

It is different to comment on whether a bike it actually to much for someone to ride.

People say that about me all the time :rofl: Technically speaking, they're incorrect; I only struggle with starting and stopping (short arse syndrome) but once I'm moving I'm fine!

[Goblin]

People say that about me all the time :rofl: Technically speaking, they're incorrect; I only struggle with starting and stopping (short arse syndrome) but once I'm moving I'm fine!So it does matter to you what other's think and say about your bike/riding. :rolleyes:

HTFU!

[MotoGirl]

So it does matter to you what other's think and say about your bike/riding. :rolleyes:

HTFU!

I never said it mattered, I purely stated that it was said :bleh:

[Goblin]

I never said it mattered, I purely stated that it was said :bleh:Well you wouldn't have started this thread if it didn't.:clap:

[DMNTD]

People say that about me all the time :rofl: Technically speaking, they're incorrect; I only struggle with starting and stopping (short arse syndrome) but once I'm moving I'm fine!

You've only dropped it once though eh? There must be a way to set it up to midget settings? :eek:

[Krusti]

Stop talking about it and get out there and do it...

If you are worried about what others think then go drive a MX5....:lol:

[MotoGirl]

You've only dropped it once though eh? There must be a way to set it up to midget settings? :eek:

Oh no, you're picking on poor little me :crybaby:

Hey, I'm not shamed of it! It took me 10 years of riding a bike to finally drop one and I reckon that's bloody legendary. Really, what did I expect to happen riding a bike that was constantly stalling?

[DMNTD]

Oh no, you're picking on poor little me :crybaby:

Hey, I'm not shamed of it! It took me 10 years of riding a bike to finally drop one and I reckon that's bloody legendary. Really, what did I expect to happen riding a bike that was constantly stalling?

Not picking on you,you'd know if I was.
Just saying that your bike needs to be set up for you if at all possible and if it can't then maybe a different bike would suit better.

I should clarify that I dig it when people work hard and buy stylish bikes...hence why I've owned so many of them.

[MotoGirl]

Not picking on you,you'd know if I was.
Just saying that your bike needs to be set up for you if at all possible and if it can't then maybe a different bike would suit better.

I should clarify that I dig it when people work hard and buy stylish bikes...hence why I've owned so many of them.


:shutup:
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[90s]

Could you improve on an absolute hunk of shit? No, not really. I am an instrumentalist (cello) and until a little while ago i thought i was at the end of my talent because it was sounding shit. After trialing a new cello it was the crap cello not the crap me, so i am upgrading the instrument as it was that or quit which i did not want to do. sure i will not sound one hell of a lot better for a while but hay i will get there.

You are totally right.
I am a crap guitarist. Its not me - its my guitars - all 8 of them that are crap.

What are the odds?

On the bike side of things ... I am pretty sure I look like a GOOD motorbiker because my bike is compensating for my lack of talent. As much as it can.

[Griff]

What about owners of crap motorbikes who ride rather well?
Surely there is a perverse pride in keeping up with / beating the expensive opposition (be it bike or car) ?

(small aggressive poppy syndrome)

[MotoGirl]

What about owners of crap motorbikes who ride rather well?
They're not deemed to be posers; they're legends!

[idleidolidyll]

If there's nobody behind you, 'winning' is hollow.

If the bikes behind you are the latest greatest gadgets available; all the better.

More power to ANYONE on ANY bike, my reasons for riding don't have to be yours.

[nodrog]

Motogirl, this bike has been a curse from the moment you brought it, therefore i am willing to let you pay me a small fee and i will take ownership of your bike and all the burden of the curse. :niceone::bleh:

[Mikkel]

You are totally right.
I am a crap guitarist. Its not me - its my guitars - all 8 of them that are crap.

What are the odds?


Wow - lucky me... I've only bought 3 "crap" guitars so far ;)

[Blue Velvet]

Motogirl, this bike has been a curse from the moment you brought it, therefore i am willing to let you pay me a small fee and i will take ownership of your bike and all the burden of the curse. :niceone::bleh:

Just go to the pub and steal it, the curse will follow the bike. Then gather the KB community to hold an exorcism attended by many nubile virgins who will drown you in razor foam.

:woohoo:

Edit: It's crap when you ride with people who have spouted on about being a shit hot rider, but after a ride make excuses for their poor riding ability rather than invest any effort into improving through instruction, mentoring or practice, whatever, e.g. yeah I rode badly cos I need a new tyre, my tyre pressures were wrong, something felt wrong... blah blah blah.

[Goblin]

then maybe a different bike would suit better. Something like this?
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Other/auction-125161985.htm

:scooter::yes:

[MotoGirl]

Something like this?
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Other/auction-125161985.htm

:scooter::yes:

It ain't no sidecar but hey, whatever it takes to get a decent ride aye Goblin :msn-wink:

[Goblin]

It ain't no sidecar but hey, whatever it takes to get a decent ride aye Goblin :msn-wink:You should try it. With a third wheel you wouldn't have to worry about seat height.

[MotoGirl]

You should try it. With a third wheel you wouldn't have to worry about seat height.

I'm not the one who's worried about it.

[Goblin]

I'm not the one who's worried about it.

That's not what you reckoned in this post.http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?p=1289124&postcount=1

and this one http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?p=1303617&postcount=161

[MotoGirl]

That's not what you reckoned in this post.http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?p=1289124&postcount=1

Actually, that thread was pointing out that the 50cc version of my bike is still too tall so there's no reason I should buy a "smaller" bike.

[Bonez]

That's not what you reckoned in this post.http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?p=1289124&postcount=1

OOps someones drop a bombshell. Time to move this to rants and ravings I think ;).

[MotoGirl]

OOps someones drop a bombshell. Time to move this to rants and ravings I think ;).

haha I don't mind if Goblin links to a post because I can edit it (not that I'm going to) :bleh: If people actually read the thread they'll see my later comments where I specifically state that even the "small" bikes are tall so why compromise on owning what I actually want. See? Back on topic now!

[jrandom]

I don't know about the rest of you, but I, personally, would pay a reasonable admission fee to watch MotoGirl and Goblin settle this via jelly wrestling.

[Bonez]

I'll go and hide back hide under my bridge then.....................See you soon.

[MotoGirl]

On a side note, a KB member told me yesterday that I should buy a smaller bike because mine's so tall.

My response was that I must have (read "not negotiable'") a full fairing v-twin and, even though I'm not prepared to change, I would be interested to see any suggestions that meet my criteria for a 600cc bike.

Apparantly, those who haven't seen me ride are qualified to comment on my skills (or lack thereof). Whatever guys!

[Bonez]

On a side note, a KB member told me yesterday that I should buy a smaller bike because mine's so tall.

My response was that I must have (read "not negotiable'") a full fairing v-twin and, even though I'm not prepared to change, I would be interested to see any suggestions that meet my criteria for a 600cc bike.

Apparantly, those who haven't seen me ride are qualified to comment on my skills (or lack thereof). Whatever guys!Keep your current bike and eat more pies and you'll reach the deck quite happily in a few months time. :chase:

[Goblin]

I don't know about the rest of you, but I, personally, would pay a reasonable admission fee to watch MotoGirl and Goblin settle this via jelly wrestling.Bring it on!!!:headbang:

[Goblin]

why compromise on owning what I actually want. See? Back on topic now!A bike to pose on? Good onya, I know you look good too!:yes:

[MotoGirl]

I don't know about the rest of you, but I, personally, would pay a reasonable admission fee to watch MotoGirl and Goblin settle this via jelly wrestling.

But it must be naked. It'll give me the advantage over my blinded opponent :clap:

[Bonez]

Can I be referee? Ha? Ha? Can I? Can I?

[Goblin]

But it must be naked. It'll give me the advantage of my blinded opponent :clap::shit: That's ok....the paying audience would be blinded by the both of us. :sunny: :laugh:


Yeah Bonez...you're officially ref! Make sure you wear your welding glasses.

[Dimi79]

Thats right...Nobody dictates how fast you have to ride,on your bike.. Only a fools can say that.The bike is your property and what you do with it is your bussiness. And just in case we follow their logic and do what we are suppouse to do ,so what they say,than if something goes wrong ,they wont be responsible for the outcome are they?
So stuff themmmmmm....

[MotoGirl]

Thats right...Nobody dictates how fast you have to ride,on your bike.. Only a fools can say that.The bike is your property and what you do with it is your bussiness. And just in case we follow their logic and do what we are suppouse to do ,so what they say,than if something goes wrong ,they wont be responsible for the outcome are they?
So stuff themmmmmm....

That's a valid point :rockon: I tend to pootle a bit on my bike, even on rides with much faster riders. I'm not going to risk buggering my bike just to keep up when I'm obviously not comfortable at those kind of speeds. THAT is how I want to ride.

[MidnightMike]

OOps someones drop a bombshell. Time to move this to rants and ravings I think ;).

Why's that? Haven't they made the catfighting section of the forum yet? I heard it was going under PD.... :girlfight:

[Pussy]

That's a valid point :rockon: I tend to pootle a bit on my bike, even on rides with much faster riders. I'm not going to risk buggering my bike just to keep up when I'm obviously not comfortable at those kind of speeds. THAT is how I want to ride.

Good on you, Adele. There are too many riders who let their confidence exceed their competence. You don't have to prove anything to anyone

[Swoop]

On a side note, a KB member told me yesterday that I should buy a smaller bike because mine's so tall.
A simple, stylish and practical solution would be stiletto-heeled riding boots!

Oooh errr!!:niceone:

[Her_C4]

A simple, stylish and practical solution would be stiletto-heeled riding boots!

Oooh errr!!:niceone:

Tried that - doesn't help gettign the toes down though...:2thumbsup

[Dimi79]

Yep. I am the same i just prefer to say if someone asks me why i am so behing even if i am on Aprilia,that i am too young,too scarry to die and also i dont have enough expirience to ride like them...

[spookytooth]

I cant see what it has to do with anyone else how someone chooses to ride THERE own bike.To me riding is about doing what i want to do how i want to do it.peace :)

[NighthawkNZ]

It seems like a few KB members have issues with those who own a nice bike and can't ride it to its full capacity. Some would consider the bike to be wasted on its owner.

At the end of that day, if someone wants to spend ludicrous amounts of money to mount their V-rod to their wall, good on them. Same goes if they want to own a 1098 and cruise at 90kph. If you want to ride slower, it doesn't dictate that you have to ride a cruiser or something with less power. The bike you buy and what you do with it is your prerogative. :2thumbsup

I know I can't ride my RSVR like Valentino but I'm not going to apologise for having the money to afford it. I love the look of my bike and it suits my purpose. What's it to you if I never "master it"?

Well said, ride your own ride... no matter what any one else says, whether a crusier, or sports, or a tourer... have fun

[MotoGirl]

To me riding is about doing what i want to do how i want to do it.

Now that sums up exactly what I was thinking :niceone:

[Morcs]

Ive always taken the stance though, if ya gonna ride slow and boring, may as well sit in a cage :zzzz:

[MotoGirl]

Ive always taken the stance though, if ya gonna ride slow and boring, may as well sit in a cage :zzzz:

Who said riding slow is boring? If Cajun's in front of me I've got his hot little arse to watch along the way :whistle:

Plus, sometimes it's nice to see the scenery.

[Pancakes]

..................Edit: It's crap when you ride with people who have spouted on about being a shit hot rider, ...................

People shouldn't feel a need to say how good they are or apologise in advance if they think they're gonna be slow. If they're couteous of what other people are doing and are riding safely thats all good. If your fast, people will see. If your not, thats fine too.

If you say your fast and aren't then hey. Whats all the posing for?

[Morcs]

Who said riding slow is boring? If Cajun's in front of me I've got his hot little arse to watch along the way :whistle:

Plus, sometimes it's nice to see the scenery.

Try it on my wee 400... relaxing is outta the question unless you are above 150. too much weight on t'wrists.

One day Ill get old and have a crisis and go and buy a cruiser..

[MotoGirl]

Try it on my wee 400... relaxing is outta the question unless you are above 150. too much weight on t'wrists.

One day Ill get old and have a crisis and go and buy a cruiser..

Instead of buying a cruiser, some go out and buy a Busa. Dad reckons his is a real chick magnet :rofl: You don't have to buy a cruiser when you have a crisis!

[ArcherWC]

Ive got a pretty bike and im slow. Dont really care what others think, unless they are so mean they make me cry

[carver]

i love my bike and i thrash it to my limits, and quite often get a few slides or am using things to full capacity (brakes, power etc)
its a good feeling

[nodrog]

Its not that much of an issue is it? If it was can't you lower the RSVR?

yes you can lower it buy swapping the dogbones on the rear suspension linkage.

[Cajun]

yes you can lower it buy swapping the dogbones on the rear suspension linkage.

no one makes them tho, so gonna have to get some made locally, which i am in process of looking in to.

[nodrog]

no one makes them tho, so gonna have to get some made locally, which i am in process of looking in to.

any decent engineering shop will be able to make them, fark i could make them!

[Cajun]

any decent engineering shop will be able to make them, fark i could make them!

the issue with the spate of rear linkages braking, so waiting to see what best material to make them out of, but can have a chat about it on thrusday if ya want. since i mostly wanting 2-3 different ones to see which suits best.

[nodrog]

the issue with the spate of rear linkages braking, so waiting to see what best material to make them out of, but can have a chat about it on thrusday if ya want. since i mostly wanting 2-3 different ones to see which suits best.

i was just going to make them out of knead it, but now you getting all fussy and want some sort of flash job, geez bloody Taurangians! :Pokey:

[Cajun]

i was just going to make them out of knead it, but now you getting all fussy and want some sort of flash job, geez bloody Taurangians! :Pokey:

well its not a suzuki so kneed it just does not cut the mustard.

[nodrog]

well its not a suzuki so kneed it just does not cut the mustard.

it will be sweet bro, its not like it actually goes anyway, so Knead it will be fine :dodge:

[MotoGirl]

Its not that much of an issue is it? If it was can't you lower the RSVR?

I wouldn't say no to it being an inch lower. If I could get my arse into gear and lose some weight, I might be able to get the ball of my foot on the ground so I'm not entirely convinced that I need to lower it.

*strains to remember if she ever rode without the extra lard*

[nodrog]

*strains to remember if she ever rode without the extra lard*

no, not from what Neal has been saying :dodge:

[MotoGirl]

no, not from what Neal has been saying :dodge:

Nothing wrong with having a couple of handle bars while you're riding :bleh:

[jrandom]

i love my bike and i thrash it to my limits

Better to thrash it to yours than to the bike's, at least in handling terms.

:yes:

Power, on the other hand, is another matter...


am using things to full capacity (brakes, power etc)
its a good feeling

Yes, it's a bit frustrating being on a heaphundred and plentyseven horsepower bike and only being able to use a little bit of it.

There's something totally grin-inducing about whacking the throttle right on and feeling the bike scramble to catch up with itself, eh.

Not that I'd know, cos I ride like a nana everywhere.

:niceone:

[90s]

Wow - lucky me... I've only bought 3 "crap" guitars so far ;)

Then you should do what I do - my guitars follow this pattern: strat-o-like; les-paul-o-like; ovation-o-like ... good excuse for me sounding crap right there and you get more guitars per buck. I DO have a nice classical, a manuel rodriguez, but that must just be broken as it sounds as bad as that others.

Believe it or not this post is ON-TOPIC, just not very interesting :whocares:. Not as interesting as a motogirl jelly-wresting smackdown involving naked something or other of 600cc, or whatever :2thumbsup(I have't been following that closely, just daydreaming really as I read)
Its On-Topic because give me money and I can deliver you motorbikes and guitars. You can never have enough of either. Ability aside, they give enormous pleasure of possession and sight. They're just beautiful man.
Now, ONLY guitars and motorbike fit the categorary of things you can own for the sake of owning without being a total tosser.

Doesn't apply to people with flash cars who can't drive them :mad:, or those who date supermodels and can't, erm, well :hug:.

So go motogirl - you ride your tall bike however you want and love your bike for its intrinsic beauty.

[MotoGirl]

Its On-Topic because give me money and I can deliver you motorbikes and guitars. You can never have enough of either. Ability aside, they give enormous pleasure of possession and sight. They're just beautiful man.


Thats so touching :weep: My bike is there to be appreciated as much as it is to be ridden, and in some respects it's a symbol that I've achieved something in my life. I.e. it's the reward for my hard work. Plus, what else am I going to spend my money on?

I worked with a woman who thought I was crazy for "wasting" money on a bike. I said "That's OK, you waste your's on travel and I've got something to show for mine!" I guess life (in general) is about doing what you want with what you have :banana:

[Bonez]

I wouldn't say no to it being an inch lower. If I could get my arse into gear and lose some weight, I might be able to get the ball of my foot on the ground so I'm not entirely convinced that I need to lower it.

*strains to remember if she ever rode without the extra lard*Extra lard = extraluvin = reduced ground clearance.

But I'm a dirty old man......................

Motogirl you don't have to justify why you've bought what you have. Just enjoy it like others enjoy their machines no mater what cost,model,make etc it is.

Looking fwd to reffing the jelly wrestling. Is there a rule book?

Oh and some of us prefer bangos to geetaars.....

[Goblin]

Motogirl you don't have to justify why you've bought what you have. Just enjoy it like others enjoy their machines no mater what cost,model,make etc it is.

Well said Bonez. ;)

Just ride your own ride and dont take what other people say to heart. It's your life, do what you want with it....not what you think everybody else thinks you should.:blink::confused:

[carver]

Better to thrash it to yours than to the bike's, at least in handling terms.

:yes:

Power, on the other hand, is another matter...



Yes, it's a bit frustrating being on a heaphundred and plentyseven horsepower bike and only being able to use a little bit of it.

There's something totally grin-inducing about whacking the throttle right on and feeling the bike scramble to catch up with itself, eh.

Not that I'd know, cos I ride like a nana everywhere.

:niceone:

yeah, thats why i sold my CBR.
i love toying with the ER6, whether it be wheelies, or taking the throttle to the stop through a '35 corner and feeling the rear take up the power.
the CBR felt blunt and clumsy compared to the ER6

[Mikkel]

Then you should do what I do - my guitars follow this pattern: strat-o-like; les-paul-o-like; ovation-o-like ... good excuse for me sounding crap right there and you get more guitars per buck. I DO have a nice classical, a manuel rodriguez, but that must just be broken as it sounds as bad as that others.
Well, I'm with you on the strats - got two of those. And then I got a nice enough acoustic guitar. But I guess there's something wrong with the strings I use - can't seem to get some that work properly :rolleyes:


Its On-Topic because give me money and I can deliver you motorbikes and guitars. You can never have enough of either. Ability aside, they give enormous pleasure of possession and sight. They're just beautiful man.
Now, ONLY guitars and motorbike fit the categorary of things you can own for the sake of owning without being a total tosser.

How about a yacht? I'd like to have a nice yacht even if I'm not a proficient sailor. ...and some of them are bloody beautiful as well. Oh, how about MONEY? I'd like to own a lot of money just for the sake of it ;)

[jade]

I didnt read this whole thread but I read some of it
I'd just like to point out that this is the 2nd rs ive owned and I ride it ALOT
I cant ride it to 100 percent of it's potential tho..
In saying that I still want a 750 which I doubt I would ever be able to ride to its full potential.. - I look forward to long distance wheelies tho
the 1098 is what does it for me, but Im not sure if I want to own a thou..
I just dont need that much power on the road y'know ?
the more I ride my bike the more I think my rs has more than enough stonk for the road. I will get a 750...
But I wont ever sell my rs.

[carver]

I didnt read this whole thread but I read some of it
I'd just like to point out that this is the 2nd rs ive owned and I ride it ALOT
I cant ride it to 100 percent of it's potential tho..
In saying that I still want a 750 which I doubt I would ever be able to ride to its full potential.. - I look forward to long distance wheelies tho
the 1098 is what does it for me, but Im not sure if I want to own a thou..
I just dont need that much power on the road y'know ?
the more I ride my bike the more I think my rs has more than enough stonk for the road. I will get a 750...
But I wont ever sell my rs.

yeah, i hear what your saying
i find my bike has enough go for the road when riding solo

[MotoGirl]

I'd just like to point out that this is the 2nd rs ive owned and I ride it ALOT
I cant ride it to 100 percent of it's potential tho..

You'll be strapped to find a dozen people who can ride their bike to its full potential. People are mouthy and exaggerate their riding abilities, and suddenly everyone's a MotoGP racer.

I've got a bike that's so far above my capabilities it's ridiculous, but it's there and it's ready for when I'm ready to ride it. Anyone who has issues with my rationale can go and stick it :whocares: You bought your bike for your purpose; let me have my bike for mine.

[McJim]

I didnt read this whole thread but I read some of it
I'd just like to point out that this is the 2nd rs ive owned and I ride it ALOT
I cant ride it to 100 percent of it's potential tho..
.

Dude - I heard you rode little bastard beyond 100% of it's ability (100%+ is where the rubber no lnger sticks to the road) I can imagine you not needing more than a RS250 for the road - your 250 has more power than my 600 and it's more than enough for me to be happy on the road. Of course my bike is woefully inadequate for the back straight at Puke but then so am I so that's fine. :rofl:

[MotoGirl]

Consider this:
If our riding is never 100 percent because we’re continuously learning how to ride better, why should anyone own a bike that suits their capabilities today? It’ll only be redundant tomorrow.

[Goblin]

Consider this:
If our riding is never 100 percent because we’re continuously learning how to ride better, why should anyone own a bike that suits their capabilities today? It’ll only be redundant tomorrow.Going by that theory, yours should last you twenty years or more....but then it would be an old bike...and you cant look good on an old bike now can you.

[MotoGirl]

Going by that theory, yours should last you twenty years or more....but then it would be an old bike...and you cant look good on an old bike now can you.

So you obviously bought your bike brand new too :Pokey:

[Goblin]

Not even ow! But then I dont give a rodent's rectum what anyone thinks/says about me or my bike...I just enjoy riding it.

[kro]

I have a very fast computer, but I still don't know how to program one, which the computer purists would say was like having an R1, and not being able to ride it hard out.

It's all just shit and feathers really, if you can afford a primo ride, but cant scuff the tyres to the outer edges, whoopdee shit,you can still have fun on the damn thing, so go for it, and ignore the "elite".

[The Stranger]

You'll be strapped to find a dozen people who can ride their bike to its full potential.

Often see comments like this and wonder what exactly they mean. Please enlighten me.

Surely no one expects that anyone would use their bike to it's full potential at all times, so the argument would appear to be superfluous.
As to using it's full (power) potential some of the time, hell even a slow old bastard like me will do that from time to time.

[NZsarge]

Often see comments like this and wonder what exactly they mean. Please enlighten me.

Surely no one expects that anyone would use their bike to it's full potential at all times, so the argument would appear to be superfluous.
As to using it's full (power) potential some of the time, hell even a slow old bastard like me will do that from time to time.

From what I heard from the Manawatu crew slow you ai'nt....

[The Stranger]

I have a very fast computer, but I still don't know how to program one, which the computer purists would say was like having an R1, and not being able to ride it hard out.


Excellent analogy - for the opposition. There is little point programming on a fast computer, it can mask inefficient routines, which will run fine on your high speed multi processor grunter, but when put into a real world machine runs like shit.
The only real benefit of a fast machine when programming is compiling.

[MotoGirl]

Often see comments like this and wonder what exactly they mean. Please enlighten me.

Surely no one expects that anyone would use their bike to it's full potential at all times, so the argument would appear to be superfluous.
As to using it's full (power) potential some of the time, hell even a slow old bastard like me will do that from time to time.

Anyone can use parts of their bike to that part's full potential. For example, I can put my side stand up and down or turn my indicators on or off, but that's not saying I ride my bike to it's potential.

I see riding a bike to it's full potential as being simultaneously using the components that make it go and handle (so obviously not the side stand :doh:), and doing it when each component is running at it's full capability.

All I'm suggesting is that a bike's components (or the combination of those components) are far superior to how 99 percent of riders are going to use them.

Full power on the other hand, anyone could use this going in a straight line.

[scorpious]

If your not a serious golfer do you buy the best golf clubs?

no

If your not a serious hockey player do you buy the best hockey gear?

No

So if your not a fast biker why would you buy a fast bike? I have a FXR150 and thats all I need, I dont want to go faster that 140. Why would you want to use all that fuel on a large moter if your not going to use the power that motor can produce. You can have a nice looking bike that has a smaller motor
:doh:

[yungatart]

If your not a serious golfer do you buy the best golf clubs?

no

If your not a serious hockey player do you buy the best hockey gear?

No

So if your not a fast biker why would you buy a fast bike? I have a FXR150 and thats all I need, I dont want to go faster that 140. Why would you want to use all that fuel on a large moter if your not going to use the power that motor can produce. You can have a nice looking bike that has a smaller motor
:doh:

A larger motor does not necessarily use more fuel.
On a recent trip to Welly, I topped up my tank at Woodville. It took $6, whereas my son's 250 took $9.00...half the cc's and half as much again in fuel!

[MotoGirl]

If your not a serious golfer do you buy the best golf clubs?
no
If your not a serious hockey player do you buy the best hockey gear?
No
So if your not a fast biker why would you buy a fast bike?
Surprisingly, people do buy the best of everything even though they won't use them to the same degree that a professional would.

The point in this thread is that people are entitled to do whatever they want with the resources they have available to them.

Edit: To add to this, people will go out and buy the best gear they can possibly afford. We may not deem it to be necessary but good gear is part of the package and the owner needs to feel confident that it will protect him/her. Once again, if that person wishes to splash a brand across his/her gear and spend loads doing it, that's his/her prerogative.

[Jantar]

So if your not a fast biker why would you buy a fast bike? I have a FXR150 and thats all I need, I dont want to go faster that 140. Why would you want to use all that fuel on a large moter if your not going to use the power that motor can produce. You can have a nice looking bike that has a smaller motor
:doh:
Size doesn't always relate to speed. My Vstrom is capable of over 220 kmh (235 claimed), but I seldom ride at more than 120 kmh. So, going by your argument, I only need a 150cc bike. However I often ride for many hours at a time, two up, with a full load of luggage. This is where a larger and more powerful bike is easier and less tiring to manage. Because it isn't being ridden at 100% of its potential, it doesn't use any more fuel than a smaller machine.
As yungatart said about her bike and her son's 250, a larger bike ridden gently can be a lot more economic than a small bike being ridden hard.

So as far as I am concerned, I would rather see someone NOT riding a bike to its full potential, but knowing that there is more there if required.

[Pancakes]

If your not a serious golfer do you buy the best golf clubs?
.............................................etc etc

Dude, I've ridden a few different bikes and it's nice not having to use all the GEARS all the time like on the gutless bike I have now, VTR1000, just roll on a bit of throttle. More relaxed and better for concentration. Also what rev's are you doing at 120?

Do people buy better gear than they need for various sports and activities? For sure! All the time! You do these things for fun and usning nice tools to do a job is part of that. Never sat on a nice bike and not even have it running and have your blood heat up?



..........So as far as I am concerned, I would rather see someone NOT riding a bike to its full potential, but knowing that there is more there if required.


Yep, that bigger margin can be quite useful sometimes eh!

[MotoGirl]

So as far as I am concerned, I would rather see someone NOT riding a bike to its full potential, but knowing that there is more there if required.

This doesn't only relate to power and speed, but handling as well :niceone:

[NUTBAR]

They're not deemed to be posers; they're legends!

im a legend! im a legend!:banana::banana::banana::lol::lol:

[MotoGirl]

What about owners of crap motorbikes who ride rather well?
They're not deemed to be posers; they're legends!
im a legend! im a legend!:banana::banana::banana::lol::lol:
You don't own a crappy bike :Pokey:

[NUTBAR]

You don't own a crappy bike :Pokey:

paint is delaminating off the fairing, bay ride put in a warranty claim to yamaha for it, they said no. why? because it has been repainted!.
first i had heard of this.:mad: brought the bike as new with 4000, kms on the clock. it had scratches on the mirror witch they replaced, they told me that the guy that brought it first took it to the south island and back again, he wanted the new one 06, with the gear change indercator on it. they said he must have rubbed up against the wall.
i found out to day that his son droped it in the drive way and he had to get it repainted. i feel that the bike was miss represented to me when i brought it!:mad:

[hedgier1]

Thus explains why it leans over so much Bravo. Its not your riding skills its the bike frame (Its loose and moves) Hahahaha

[NUTBAR]

Thus explains why it leans over so much Bravo. Its not your riding skills its the bike frame (Its loose and moves) Hahahaha

oh and i thought it was my momentus skills id learnd off dmtd.
:bleh::lol::lol: