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SPman
27th October 2004, 13:34
Another young guy killed this morning on his way to work on East Coast Road., by Wilks Rd going to Silverdale Apparently passed a car, misjudged everything, perhaps clipped the car he was passing and head on into an oncoming vehicle!
He leaves a yr old daughter, partner and shocked motorcycling parents and sisters.

Be careful out there you guys

SP.

StoneChucker
27th October 2004, 13:41
So sorry to hear, wishes to family and friends :(

RIDE SAFE people

Blakamin
27th October 2004, 13:44
:bye:
thoughts to the family... specially the child

Hitcher
27th October 2004, 13:46
Tragic. I hope he wasn't one of ours.

SPman
27th October 2004, 14:03
Tragic. I hope he wasn't one of ours.
Nope. He was a bit loose on a bike though - like a few of the young chaps on here.

Omega1
27th October 2004, 14:06
RIP -condolences to the Family

k14
27th October 2004, 14:15
Crap, sounds like you knew him SP-man. RIP buddy. Be careful out there guys and gals.

SpankMe
27th October 2004, 15:04
Shit I've heard about way too many biker fatalities lately.

Give those bloody cages a wide berth when passing guys. They WILL kill you given the chance.

FROSTY
27th October 2004, 15:07
Thanks for the reminder SP . Whoever you are dude I hope the roads are windey and the bikes are seriously nice.

Ghost Lemur
27th October 2004, 15:10
The season is certainly upon us.

By the sounds of it he came from a riding family. You sort of think his skill level would be higher than average in that sort of environment.

An ever constant reminder that life is fragile and live it while you can.

Mongoose
27th October 2004, 15:16
Yep, just goes to show that one wrong move and she's all over rover.
With out taking anything away from and early death, it does sort of stuff the arguements on the other thread about cars causing M/bike accidents/crashes a tad.

jrandom
27th October 2004, 15:16
Whoever you are dude I hope the roads are windey and the bikes are seriously nice.

A lovely sentiment, Frosty, but he's *dead*. That means, you know, rotting, decayed, or (most likely) spent some quality time in a cremation oven. Resting in pieces is a more appropriate term. Non-existent. The roads were windey before that, but now there just *aren't* any. It's all over. Good night. Biker has left the building.

Which is why it's better, all things considered, not to hit cages head-on.

Ms Piggy
27th October 2004, 15:37
Sympathies to his family and loved ones he leaves behind :confused:

KATWYN
27th October 2004, 17:39
A lovely sentiment, Frosty, but he's *dead*. That means, you know, rotting, decayed, or (most likely) spent some quality time in a cremation oven. Resting in pieces is a more appropriate term. Non-existent. The roads were windey before that, but now there just *aren't* any. It's all over. Good night. Biker has left the building.

Which is why it's better, all things considered, not to hit cages head-on.


I was thinking that and agree . But JR ,if his family reads this thread or people apply it to their loved ones it really isn't a comforting thought to know that....as much as we all wanna believe we carry on riding.

BTW, the share physics of how you would ride some 200kg iron horse in the sky is an interesting thought

If I knew I was going to go and ride a bike on some lovely winding
road off this planet.....hell I woulda checked out and done so ages ago, instead of riding it out here on this pathetic self indulgent peice of *&^%$

When people say "be careful out there people" we can be really careful and
there will still be someone who will take our lives.......i'm afraid we make the
decision to take the risk....we have to accept the consequence of that risk...its not fully about "BEING CAREFULL OUT THERE"

jrandom
27th October 2004, 17:46
I was thinking that and agree . But JR ,if his family reads this thread or people apply it to their loved ones it really isn't a comforting thought to know that...

I know. I should probably be shot for being a curmudgeonly prat. I just feel that there's nothing much good to say about it, and there's no point dressing that fact up in fancy clothes. But you're right.


BTW, the share physics of how you would ride some 200kg iron horse in the sky is an interesting thought

Not to mention the shear physics.


i'm afraid we make the decision to take the risk....we have to accept the consequence of that risk...its not fully about "BEING CAREFULL OUT THERE"

Indeed.

You know, I think I've figured out why KB has a tolerance for the 'biker down that we've never met' posts, whereas, say, uk.rec.motorcycles has more or less banned them. It's because there's few enough of them in NZ that we can essentially cover every biker's death or serious injury across the nation without creating much noise on the forum.

I can't figure out whether that's a good thing or a bad thing, though.

toads
27th October 2004, 18:08
another reminder that life is precious, and fragile, very sad for the family

MikeL
27th October 2004, 18:12
A lovely sentiment, Frosty, but he's *dead*. That means, you know, rotting, decayed, or (most likely) spent some quality time in a cremation oven. Resting in pieces is a more appropriate term. Non-existent. The roads were windey before that, but now there just *aren't* any. It's all over. Good night. Biker has left the building.



I fear a revival of the Scottish thread may be warranted here...

jrandom
27th October 2004, 18:59
I fear a revival of the Scottish thread may be warranted here...

... but we have no real basis to go forward on, do we?

Not that I was just seeing who that comment would hook, of course.

*I* wouldn't do something like that.

:innocent:

Ms Piggy
27th October 2004, 19:39
... but we have no real basis to go forward on, do we?

Not that I was just seeing who that comment would hook, of course.

*I* wouldn't do something like that.

:innocent:
You are a bad man Mr Jrandom! :Playnice: Not really I just wanted to say that. :shifty:

I do see your point and me & my fella have had a few discussions (yes discussions and not arguments) about posting about bikers who've died and about people posting sympathy. I guess I'm a bit of a softie and whenever I read something like "Biker down" or even see those little starving kids on the adverts on telly I feel my stomach lurch. :confused2 Hard to explain without sounding like a total twat.

Today even I felt myself getting really quite angry when I was telling some friends about that young motorcyclist killed by the Uni student in Akld who got 250 hrs community service.

SPman
27th October 2004, 20:43
Crap, sounds like you knew him SP-man. RIP buddy. Be careful out there guys and gals. Know his parents well. Apparently he misjudged a passing manouvre and either clipped the car he was passing, pulling back in behind, or the car moved over and flicked him into the path of an oncoming car! Going to work doing 100 kph, had just passed some mates in their car who were doing 85 - 90 and they said he was just cruising. He normally took his car to work, but it was stolen last week so he borrowed his mothers XJ600. His own bike was being rebuilt!
His parents are devastated

JohnBoy
27th October 2004, 20:50
Know his parents well. Apparently he misjudged a passing manouvre and either clipped the car he was passing, pulling back in behind, or the car moved over and flicked him into the path of an oncoming car! Going to work doing 100 kph, had just passed some mates in their car who were doing 85 - 90 and they said he was just cruising. He normally took his car to work, but it was stolen last week so he borrowed his mothers XJ600. His own bike was being rebuilt!
His parents are devastated
please foward my sympothies to his family. just reminds you how fragile you are on a bike.

NC
27th October 2004, 21:18
Know his parents well. Apparently he misjudged a passing manouvre and either clipped the car he was passing, pulling back in behind, or the car moved over and flicked him into the path of an oncoming car! Going to work doing 100 kph, had just passed some mates in their car who were doing 85 - 90 and they said he was just cruising. He normally took his car to work, but it was stolen last week so he borrowed his mothers XJ600. His own bike was being rebuilt!
His parents are devastated


:no: All because someone nicked his cage...

erik
27th October 2004, 21:28
A lovely sentiment, Frosty, but he's *dead*. That means, you know, rotting, decayed, or (most likely) spent some quality time in a cremation oven. Resting in pieces is a more appropriate term. Non-existent. The roads were windey before that, but now there just *aren't* any. It's all over. Good night. Biker has left the building.

Which is why it's better, all things considered, not to hit cages head-on.

*bites hook*

You can't prove that there aren't nice windy roads after death any more than a religious person could prove that god exists.

I think it's a bit cynical to squash someone's hope that there might be something to look forward to after death. Even if they are wrong, the thought may still help them deal with it. They might as well believe whatever they like if it helps them and doesn't harm others.