Dilemma

[munter]

Your opinions please….

OK – I am about to purchase a bike in the next month or so, all going well. (after several years of discussing this with my wife) :ride:

My problem is this: A friend of mine has offered me his Yamaha R1 to ride while he has some surgery done on his back. My task is to clean, polish and maintain (in his words – give it a blast every now and again) Wah hoo!.
The problem is this….. He only has third party insurance on the bike. So if I bin it then I either own it or pay for the repairs; which I do not have a problem with - this goes without saying. However the money spent fixing it should I have an off :shit: would be the money I would be buying a new bike with.

So it comes down to this… Do I chance it and have a great month or so riding the R1 :Punk: or flag it and purchase my own bike in the next month or so? :pinch:

[James Deuce]

Flag it. What was the last bike you rode? Did it have a 1hp per kg power to weight ratio? If not chances are you'll end up paying 20k for a written off bike.

Just my opinion of course, and I'm a wussy compared to most of the daredevils on this site, but I think the risk outweighs the potential gain by a very large margin

[vifferman]

Do you have your full license? If not, don't even think about looking after the R1.
If you do have your full, get him to change the insurance cover to comprehensive and you pay the monthly premium. He can always change it back when he's riding again.
You gotta weigh up the risks and benefits, dude. Might be worth it, might not. Your call, but do some homework first.
Which I guess you are, by asking on here. :doobey:

[KATWYN]

Do I chance it and have a great month or so riding the R1 :Punk: or flag it and purchase my own bike in the next month or so? :pinch:


It will always happen when you borrow someones stuff & or lend something
out....

Wait a month and buy your own - ....or can you put the R1 on your own insurance for a month??? that could be an option (it will only be valid though
if you have your full licence)

[NC]

It's not worth the bill you get after you have slid it down the road in the wet, after giving it to much herb.

I'd pass on it, like a hot Thai curry.

[Ms Piggy]

Definitely flag it. It's not worth the risk. Think of the costs - not only bike repairs/replacement but possibly a very strained if not vanishing friendship in the worse case scenario.

If you have the finance definitely get your own bike. Then you will also feel a lot more relaxed. I'd be slightly nervous every time I hopped on it and then you won't enjoy it nearly as much.

What are ya thinking of getting?

[munter]

Yeah I do have my full license. The last bike I rode was a test drive of a CBR1000. I really enjoyed it too. I have briefly ridden this bike before.
I had not considered getting him to up the insurance and paying the premiums myself.
My wife is also not keen on the idea of looking after this bike.

[munter]

What are ya thinking of getting?

Not to sure.. I am very keen on either a Honda CBR600 or even a Yamaha FZR600

[Madmax]

Any of the large sport bikes can get you in a lot
of trouble fast!
(just look a the throttle the wrong way and it will bite)
to much trouble for one month
get your own one

[Firefight]

I agree with the others mate, shit is sure to happen, just get your mate to change insurance and you pay the difference, enjoy the R1.

F/F :cool:

[vifferman]

Had another thought. WHat if your name and nature are the same and you MUNT it? :bash: :lol:

[munter]

Had another thought. WHat if your name and nature are the same and you MUNT it? :bash: :lol:

:shit: Yeah that would be scary! :o :pinch:

[SpankMe]

The last bike I rode was a test drive of a CBR1000.

A test ride of a 1000cc bike does not count as experience. Unless you have been riding 1 litre bikes for a year or more on a regular basis, I wouldn't even consider looking after a bike like an R1.

[The Pastor]

Then again it would be alot of fun, even if you do bin it. The extra nevous'ness will add to the adreniline rush....

[munter]

A test ride of a 1000cc bike does not count as experience. Unless you have been riding 1 litre bikes for a year or more on a regular basis, I wouldn't even consider looking after a bike like an R1.

Yep - I get the general jist of what people are saying - "Dont be a FOOL!" and wait till you get your own bike.

Ah well at least the imagination got a good work out :ride:

:niceone:

[StoneChucker]

It would be stupid to ride the bike without comprehensive insurance. But, you can arrange this, it wouldn't cost much for the month.

I think one good thing about looking after the bike, would be that you'd get a feel for the bike, and what you like / don't like, which will help you make your mind up when you're ready to buy. Don't always listen to people who say "it's too powerful", or, "you'll crash" "it'll eat you alive", etc... It's all a load of bollocks. ANY bike, thats any bike can be ridden safely, it depends on how you ride it. If you're a mature rider, who knows how to take things easy, I say go for it. Me for example, my second bike (after my learners 250cc) was the new R1. And I can ride it as slow as I want, it's actually bloody easy to ride. Obviously you have to have a steady throttle hand, but that really isn't hard, and it's quite forgiving. NOW please, no stupid cracks at me having binned recently, that could have been a whole bunch of things. I'm certain it was nothing I did differently, it was a tyre/road surface related bin, on a road I ride very often (and I wasn't even going all that fast).

You make your own mind up, but don't ride without FULL insurace cover.
Let us know how you go, and what you decide to buy :)

Dave.

[Hitcher]

A horned dilemma or a polled dilemma?

My policy is that if you borrow something you return it in at least as good condition as it was when you borrowed it. If you are prepared to enter into a "contract" on this basis, then ride the R1.

Also heed the advice given above and please don't kill yourself on it.

[Coldkiwi]

Without insurance I wouldn't go near it mate. You will be wanting to give it the berries (which is why you're excited about it of course) and its nieve not to at least have a plan in place to take care of the worst case. If he DOES get insurance sorted for you take it nice and easy because 1 litre sport bikes really don't handle fools very well ('forgiving' can generally consist of letting you off the bike while its moving!).

p.s. How many demerit points have you got up your sleeve? anything less than 50 and you'd want to give it 2nd thoughts as well.

[munter]

p.s. How many demerit points have you got up your sleeve? anything less than 50 and you'd want to give it 2nd thoughts as well.

No demerit point :2thumbsup: but looking at giving it a miss..... you know murphys law - If something bad can happen, it will at the worste posible time :disapint:

[Ghost Lemur]

No demerit point :2thumbsup: but looking at giving it a miss..... you know murphys law - If something bad can happen, it will at the worste posible time :disapint:

hehe

*looks down at sig* :cool:

Sounds like you're doing the "mature" thing. REALLY hurts sometimes doesn't it? Should put you in good speed with the wife though, showing your mature enough to have your own bike. Lets face it, that's when you're really going to have some fun.

[munter]

hehe

*looks down at sig* :cool:

Sounds like you're doing the "mature" thing. REALLY hurts sometimes doesn't it? Should put you in good speed with the wife though, showing your mature enough to have your own bike. Lets face it, that's when you're really going to have some fun.

Yep! and my wife is now really looking forward to ridding pillion :yes:- She was really looking forward to riding on the back of the R1 till she found out about the lack of insurance. :shit:

[riffer]

Sorry munter.

But inexperience + R1 = potential death.

Can't agree with Stonechucker on this one.

The R1 is one of the fastest bikes you can get. Yes, you can ride it lamely but that's not the point. What is the point is whether you can handle he bike. And that's more than just not pulling back the throttle. That's only self control. I've been riding for yonks, but I would think seriously about borrowing an R1.

To use a sporting analogy its like fitness compared to match fitness. Unless you are riding all the time, don't even THINK you can ride one of these safely.

There's worse things that can happen than just binning it. You could kill yourself.

[Pwalo]

Yep! and my wife is now really looking forward to ridding pillion :yes:- She was really looking forward to riding on the back of the R1 till she found out about the lack of insurance. :shit:

All I can say is that your wife is very brave, immune to pain, or very petite if she's keen to have a go on the back of the R1.

My advice is the same as most of the others. Get something a bit less over the top and get a few k's under your belt before you consider trading up to an R1.

[F5 Dave]

Yeah I had a very experienced friend who got spat from his R1 commuting to work as it ‘lit–up’ the rear wheel whilst cornering. A moment’s inattention from an experienced rider.

Don’t be a born-again casualty. After years of not riding you will be rusty as. Embrace this as an opportunity to relearn what you have forgotten. Welcome back to the bar(s).

[munter]

Yeah I had a very experienced friend who got spat from his R1 commuting to work as it ‘lit–up’ the rear wheel whilst cornering. A moment’s inattention from an experienced rider.

Don’t be a born-again casualty. After years of not riding you will be rusty as. Embrace this as an opportunity to relearn what you have forgotten. Welcome back to the bar(s).

Cheers F5 Dave - wise words indeed. :not:
Will wait tilll I get my own bike in another month :weep:

[StoneChucker]

I have to agree, to disagree...
I took JazBug5 on the back of my R1, and I am super inexperienced. It's not a friggen A-Bomb, ride slow, you'll be fine.

BUT, if you can't ride slow, or have a momentary lapese of restraint, then beware :D

But insurance is the main point.

But OVERALL, regardless of how easy whatever bikes are to ride, you'll have more fun on yours, since it is just that, yours.

Take care.

[munter]

Thanks StoneChucker - I think I am just too much risk-adverse. Maybe if I didnt have a little 18mth girl or married and a litlle younger I would. Geeze I feel really old and far too mature.

[Coldkiwi]

I have to agree, to disagree...
It's not a friggen A-Bomb, ride slow, you'll be fine.



errr, not wanting to be rude mate - but have you got yours fixed yet? :Pokey:

[StoneChucker]

errr, not wanting to be rude mate - but have you got yours fixed yet
Thats not rude lol, I referenced my bin in my first reply... No, not yet, hopefully for the end of next week. Just waiting for parts.