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Blue Velvet
22nd November 2007, 07:26
What an unco.
Having ridden the GSXR750 around over the last week I've also jumped back on the SV650S to commute to work a couple of times. The difference between the two is making me really unco on the SV. The 750 is smooth as but the SV is like taming a wild beast again. Changing down today I had a major fishtail moment before a bend, changing into a gear which on the 750 would have been fine, and pre-750 might have been fine on the SV too but was just plain nasty today. I just went with it and came right before having to turn into the bend.
Compounding my unco SV riding is a problem where the engine cuts out when blipping the throttle.
Anyone had similar problems adjusting to a different sports bike upon purchase of a new one?
MaxCannon
22nd November 2007, 07:52
Sounds like that SV650 is dangerous
You should give it to me to look after for you
SpankMe
22nd November 2007, 07:59
Yep, but you get used to it. Jumping between my SV1000s and GB500 (600cc single) took awhile to get used to. Tried to throttle the SV like the GB a couple of times when I first got on it and got a bit of a fright, but eventually it's not a problem. Now with my GSX-R750 and GB500 , it's never been an issue. I jump between the two all the time and I'm straight into it.
Blue Velvet
22nd November 2007, 08:15
Yep, but you get used to it. Jumping between my SV1000s and GB500 (600cc single) took awhile to get used to. Tried to throttle the SV like the GB a couple of times when I first got on it and got a bit of a fright, but eventually it's not a problem. Now with my GSX-R750 and GB500 , it's never been an issue. I jump between the two all the time and I'm straight into it.
Thanks. I thought I was in for a spill on the SV this morning but then the off road skills kicked in and it ended up being a bit of a thrill :shifty:
Nothing following me and luckily nothing ahead either.
jrandom
22nd November 2007, 09:17
Mmm, yes, the slipper clutch on your gixxer is spoiling you.
You going to keep both bikes on the road indefinitely? Don't be boring, turn the SV into a racebike.
;)
Trudes
22nd November 2007, 09:34
I have issues when going from riding my cruisy hornet to jumping on the hubby's 750, but mine are mainly due to different riding positions and the fact that the 750 is not set up for my stubby arms and everything is a bit of a stretch, handling is different, cornering is bizarre and U-turns are near impossible (for me that is). Can feel really weird eh! Maybe it's time to flick the SV?
Blue Velvet
22nd November 2007, 09:36
Don't be boring, turn the SV into a racebike.
;)
That's actually the plan :clap:
Edit: What would be required to do this?
Edit edit: Rego is just about to expire and warrant runs out Jan '08...
Blue Velvet
22nd November 2007, 09:52
I have issues when going from riding my cruisy hornet to jumping on the hubby's 750, but mine are mainly due to different riding positions and the fact that the 750 is not set up for my stubby arms and everything is a bit of a stretch, handling is different, cornering is bizarre and U-turns are near impossible (for me that is). Can feel really weird eh! Maybe it's time to flick the SV?
I think turning the SV into a race bike is the best option, I just don't know if it's worth fixing it up to flick it, both time and money wise. I haven't been to any track days and the SV would be ideal to start out on. What do you think? I think I've read on here you've attended track days?
Trudes
22nd November 2007, 09:59
I think turning the SV into a race bike is the best option, I just don't know if it's worth fixing it up to flick it, both time and money wise. I haven't been to any track days and the SV would be ideal to start out on. What do you think? I think I've read on here you've attended track days?
Great idea!!! You'll have a ball on the track on the SV!! Go for it!:niceone:
jrandom
22nd November 2007, 10:05
I think turning the SV into a race bike is the best option...
Spot on. It's just what you need for the Clubmans and Pro Twins race classes. Have a trawl through the Racing forum and the Suspension forum (search for 'SV', I suppose) for information on what you'll want to look at doing to the bike.
The absolute first thing you should do is get someone who knows what they're doing to adjust the suspension for you. Do that now if you haven't already had it done.
Then, just get along to a trackday, pronto!
:niceone:
There's a big weekend coming up on the 1st/2nd of December, with a two-day MotoTT trackday on the Friday and Saturday, and then our very own memorial trackday on the Sunday, all at Taupo track. Get that SV up there and have a go!
[Edit: Trailer it up, preferably, so that you're not stuck for transport if you bin it.]
Wasp27
22nd November 2007, 10:27
I have issues when going from riding my cruisy hornet to jumping on the hubby's 750, but mine are mainly due to different riding positions and the fact that the 750 is not set up for my stubby arms and everything is a bit of a stretch, handling is different, cornering is bizarre and U-turns are near impossible (for me that is). Can feel really weird eh! Maybe it's time to flick the SV?
Was seriously considering getting the Duchess a SV650S to play with...but all this talk is making me nervous. After seeing your Hornet:love: in Welly on the 11th I think maybe plan B might be better......your not thinking of selling yours by any chance:whistle:
Trudes
22nd November 2007, 10:50
Was seriously considering getting the Duchess a SV650S to play with...but all this talk is making me nervous. After seeing your Hornet:love: in Welly on the 11th I think maybe plan B might be better......your not thinking of selling yours by any chance:whistle:
There's absolutely nothing wrong with the SV, great fun machines. What has she ridden? Make sure she tries both the SV and the Hornet, quite different bikes, Inline 4 VS Twin, riding positions etc etc.
As for me selling mine, hey, everything is for sale at the right price (hope my hubby doesn't see this), I have had several people interested in it, I think mainly due to the Ohlins shock and the seat to lower it for my short arse, as well as it has been nannaed along for all of it's 17,000 km life. :laugh: Anyhow, I'm planning on holding on to it until et al sells me his Monster. :love:
Blue Velvet
22nd November 2007, 11:03
There's absolutely nothing wrong with the SV, great fun machines.
+1
The SV is a great bike, hence I'm not getting rid of it but taking it to the track, because I can't justify the time and expense required to keep it road legal or fix it up to on-sell. It's now officially a track toy :woohoo:
The SV was my first road bike and has served me extremely well. I've done lots of k's on it without problems. The cutting out problem is probably due to a build up of crap in some deep dark recess. It needs some TLC :love: before I flog it to death on a race track :lol:
My post was more about me getting used to the differences between my SV and GSX-R750. Don't be put off by it.
Kendog
22nd November 2007, 19:26
There is a Suzuki track day at Taupo on the 9th of December :)
Grahameeboy
22nd November 2007, 19:29
Mmm, yes, the slipper clutch on your gixxer is spoiling you.
You going to keep both bikes on the road indefinitely? Don't be boring, turn the SV into a racebike.
;)
Guess the SV does not have a slipper clutch.
Blue Velvet
23rd November 2007, 07:30
Guess the SV does not have a slipper clutch.
Um, no, and it's feeling rather sad all round at the moment, though probably accentuated by the stunning performance of a bike 7/8 years it's junior...
HungusMaximist
23rd November 2007, 07:45
What an unco.
Having ridden the GSXR750 around over the last week I've also jumped back on the SV650S to commute to work a couple of times. The difference between the two is making me really unco on the SV. The 750 is smooth as but the SV is like taming a wild beast again. Changing down today I had a major fishtail moment before a bend, changing into a gear which on the 750 would have been fine, and pre-750 might have been fine on the SV too but was just plain nasty today. I just went with it and came right before having to turn into the bend.
Compounding my unco SV riding is a problem where the engine cuts out when blipping the throttle.
Anyone had similar problems adjusting to a different sports bike upon purchase of a new one?
Mostly likely it's just new growth of complacency after riding the 750... It's O.K, it happens... :clap:
I take it you've been riding your SV for ages so I doubt you're forgetting things but yea, the twins definitely needs less down shifting and most of the times you just ride through the corner without having much apart from opening the throttle.
Pex Adams
23rd November 2007, 07:53
Its funny you mention this Blueie..
I've just got of (literally) a Gixer600k5 that had a slipper clutch onto a SV thou. And by god I miss it..
Is there a way of putting one on the SV thou???
What are some of the things that you need to be aware of???
Blue Velvet
23rd November 2007, 08:08
Mostly likely it's just new growth of complacency after riding the 750... It's O.K, it happens... :clap:
:o
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GSVR
23rd November 2007, 08:37
I think turning the SV into a race bike is the best option, I just don't know if it's worth fixing it up to flick it, both time and money wise. I haven't been to any track days and the SV would be ideal to start out on. What do you think? I think I've read on here you've attended track days?
What do you think it would cost to turn the SV into a racebike?
I personally would think if its a complete road bike the best option would be to sell it.
Resale on racebikes is very low and the market is small. Now is a great time to sell a bike and the number of prospective buyers is huge. Your GSXR would be alot better bike to do trackdays on.
Blue Velvet
23rd November 2007, 08:50
What do you think it would cost to turn the SV into a racebike?
I don't know but I prompted for info earlier in the thread. Please tell me what it would take. I'm not talking serious racing, just the odd track day.
I personally would think if its a complete road bike the best option would be to sell it.
Rego is just about to expire, warrant expires Jan '08. Bike needs a bit of TLC. So I'd have to spend time and money to make a bit of money. I like having a second bike at the moment, so will probably register it for 3 months and get the next warrant.
Resale on racebikes is very low and the market is small. Now is a great time to sell a bike and the number of prospective buyers is huge. Your GSXR would be alot better bike to do trackdays on.
Realistically I'm not looking to make any money on this bike, road worthy or not.
Sully60
23rd November 2007, 08:51
+1
The SV is a great bike, hence I'm not getting rid of it but taking it to the track, because I can't justify the time and expense required to keep it road legal or fix it up to on-sell. It's now officially a track toy :woohoo:
The SV was my first road bike and has served me extremely well. I've done lots of k's on it without problems. The cutting out problem is probably due to a build up of crap in some deep dark recess. It needs some TLC :love: before I flog it to death on a race track :lol:
My post was more about me getting used to the differences between my SV and GSX-R750. Don't be put off by it.
Good on you for keeping your SV to ride on the track, they're great bikes I love mine and will probably never sell it.(because anyone who has seen me ride wouldn't go near it!)
If you want some help converting it to a track bike give me a yell, I swapped mine back and forth a bit so I' getting pretty good at it now.
Blue Velvet
23rd November 2007, 08:57
Good on you for keeping your SV to ride on the track, they're great bikes I love mine and will probably never sell it.(because anyone who has seen me ride wouldn't go near it!)
If you want some help converting it to a track bike give me a yell, I swapped mine back and forth a bit so I' getting pretty good at it now.
PM sent...
imdying
23rd November 2007, 09:04
I found my SV made me a lazy beyatch, too easy to ride. I brought an RGV recently, that sorted that right out... it demands attention all the time, but in return it is very rewarding.
Blue Velvet
23rd November 2007, 09:08
I found my SV made me a lazy beyatch, too easy to ride. I brought an RGV recently, that sorted that right out... it demands attention all the time, but in return it is very rewarding.
True. Compared to the GSX-R my SV is like a cruiser :shutup:
GSVR
23rd November 2007, 09:54
I don't know but I prompted for info earlier in the thread. Please tell me what it would take. I'm not talking serious racing, just the odd track day..
Trackdays you just turn up with a roadworthy bike tape up the glass and ride.
Rego is just about to expire, warrant expires Jan '08. Bike needs a bit of TLC. So I'd have to spend time and money to make a bit of money. I like having a second bike at the moment, so will probably register it for 3 months and get the next warrant.
Its a pain owning several bikes and a car. Theres only one of me why should I have to pay all these ACC levies.
Realistically I'm not looking to make any money on this bike, road worthy or not.
If your not making money that must mean your expecting to lose money. I was thinking more get what its worth and use that for your trackday expense account. Or trade it in on new SV.
If I owned an SV and a GSXR i'd want to use the GSXR for trackdays and the SV for getting to work on.
Blue Velvet
23rd November 2007, 10:16
Trackdays you just turn up with a roadworthy bike tape up the glass and ride.
Cool, thanks.
If I owned an SV and a GSXR i'd want to use the GSXR for trackdays and the SV for getting to work on.
I don't want to bin the GSX-R this early on, so the SV seems like a good test the track day waters kind of bike to me...
Edit: At least for now...
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