To replace the old muffler or not?

[serious4]

I've recently been thinking about tidying my vtr for its future sale. One of the things I intend to do has got me really indecisive.

It's the muffler. I don't know whether to to change the muffler for a new one $350-450 or to just change the s/steel wrap it has from honda $120.

So the question is, which would be more attractive in your opinion if you had to pay, a new muffler or a tidy up of the standard muffler.

[Storm]

Seeing as you are selling it, dont bother sinking oodles of cash into it would be my 2c

[Rosie]

General thoughts:
250's mainly get sold to people who want to learn to ride. These people often don't know terribly much about bikes, so there is a good chance they aren't going to be able to tell the difference between a shiney looking stock muffler and a more expensive aftermarket one.
And a nice $400 muffler will probably increase the sale price by somewhat less than $400.

Answering your question:
Personally, given the choice between two near-identical bikes, one with a tidied up stock muffler, and one with an expensive new muffler, I would want to see some good evidence of improved performance before parting with the extra $$$ for the new-mufflered bike.

[Toaster]

Seeing as you are selling it, dont bother sinking oodles of cash into it would be my 2c

Agreed, it will overcapitalise a 250cc bike - doesn't seem worth it.

[serious4]

Yeah, you're both right. I always tend to over capitalise on my toys and get little in return.
Cheers

[Pancakes]

And instead of tiding up as stuff happens put the money in the bank and do it just before you sell, if your gonna do work either way it may as well look like it at resale.

[007XX]

If it is going to bring the price down of your bike considerably, then change it. But otherwise, I wouldn't worry about it too much and just tidy it up.

[Renegade]

tough call man, ive been thinkn about holding on to the hyobag for a lil longer cos i cant make up my mind which bike to buy next and thought i might put a cool pipe on for fun,

i just cant make up my mind either

[serious4]

I hear ya Renegade. :niceone: A bit more sound, a bit more go and a bit of bling. Actually in saying that, having a loud muffler would have its advantages as most drivers seem to need all the help they can get when it comes to noticing bikers.

Although, there seems to be a common theme in response to my dilemma. I think my money will be happier in the bank at mo. Definently foo for thought

Cheers for the reply's :rolleyes:

[Pancakes]

I have a real loud (straight theu and almost no steel wool) can for mine, and the cars part like the red sea!! I think it sounds like a bike gang riding into town and they freak out.

[serious4]

Pancakes, did you have to get your bike re-jetted with your improved muffler or not? Just curious, as that would obviously increase the spend if I went that route.

[Pancakes]

Nah I didn't which is why it's not on all the time. I have made a gas meter but need to weld a nut for the sensor (and get a sensor) in to the pipe. Need to adjust the resistor on that with the current one to get the "normal" showing and then will swap them out. Didn't notice the plugs discolour badly or anything that would be an obvious giveaway but wasn't fun riding, was just commuting. Fun riding would accellerate issues as it is pretty much WOT at redline for ages and high load.

I have a non-stock one on now that is a little bit louder but not much more power than stock. The 2" straight thru one has a noticable bit more power from 6,000 RPM. The fact that it flows that much more makes me think that some adjustment will be needed unless the main jet can flow enough to cope. I don't know enough to do the carbs myself, know enough to make the test gear and see if it's the same or not and could use that to fiddle with the carbs but would probably take mega time for me to do what a shop could plug in first time.

If you have a welder I'm happy to have a nut done in my bike and to share the results.

[The Pastor]

jetting the bike is easy pancakes, you just gotta work out what size jets you need.

jets cost $12 each, so it will be expensive to buy heaps and see which is best for you.

[Pancakes]

Yeah I know 100% I could replace the jets, making sure I replace them with something that will actually make it better is where I'd fall down!