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FlangMasterJ
26th November 2007, 15:23
Anyone know who owns the trail next to the power station on the Hutt side of Haywards?

Been up their a few times. Their are no signs which say 'no riding' but they have made it bloody hard to access.

The entrance is closed off by a large gate. Next to the gate they used to have a stile which you could lift your bike over but now they have added a metal railing above that and also put a couple of metre high blocks on the opposite side.

Shadows
26th November 2007, 22:11
Anyone know who owns the trail next to the power station on the Hutt side of Haywards?

Been up their a few times. Their are no signs which say 'no riding' but they have made it bloody hard to access.

The entrance is closed off by a large gate. Next to the gate they used to have a stile which you could lift your bike over but now they have added a metal railing above that and also put a couple of metre high blocks on the opposite side.

I believe the forestry block it goes through to the North belongs to St. Pats College in Silverstream, but I think the track itself belongs to the Electricity Corporation (or whatever its called now) for servicing the power pylons.

FlangMasterJ
27th November 2007, 08:54
Thanks Shadows.

Great track by the way.

merv
27th November 2007, 09:29
Is this the track you're talking about? This pic is from my GPS track during the 2006 Capital Coast Adventure and you can see it went a bit hairy in places with the GPS losing the satellites under the trees so the track shoots off a bit. We did it North to South that year and the track runs from Moonshine Road down to Haywards in the trees.

Here's a couple of pics from earlier Capital Coast rides because last year 2006 it looks like I never stopped to get pics in there:

This one was 2001 http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=23872&d=1137101968

This one was 2003 http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=23897&d=1137103420

FlangMasterJ
27th November 2007, 12:35
Is this the track you're talking about? This pic is from my GPS track during the 2006 Capital Coast Adventure and you can see it went a bit hairy in places with the GPS losing the satellites under the trees so the track shoots off a bit. We did it North to South that year and the track runs from Moonshine Road down to Haywards in the trees.

Here's a couple of pics from earlier Capital Coast rides because last year 2006 it looks like I never stopped to get pics in there:

This one was 2001 http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=23872&d=1137101968

This one was 2003 http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=23897&d=1137103420

The track doesn't look as lush as the one you posted. Could be it though. Their are numerous tracks bracnhing off the one I'm talking about.

merv
27th November 2007, 12:46
The track doesn't look as lush as the one you posted. Could be it though. Their are numerous tracks branching off the one I'm talking about.

Newest pics are from 4 years ago as I didn't have any from last year on that track so things could well have changed and I haven't tried to go in there since the organised ride.

Who knows, 4skins might use that track again in 2008 and I'll check it out then.

FlangMasterJ
27th November 2007, 12:51
Here are some google map images. The entrance is on the driveway leading into the power station. The main track wraps around and ends just above the motorway.

merv
27th November 2007, 13:05
OK here's my track on Google.

We also went along further and did the track up behind the quarry - all with access organised of course for the CCA by 4skins.

:cool:

FlangMasterJ
27th November 2007, 13:21
Okay so it is the same track you just entered down near the carpark. Can anyone ride behind the quarry?

merv
27th November 2007, 13:31
We came down from Moonshine and out at Haywards in 2006. I haven't looked around since but I'd say if there are no barriers give it a go. You go up an angled track between the park entrance and the quarry and then we came out in the park.

On the organised rides all the routes are open for us so I'd never know which ones are normally closed.

The 4th and 5th pics on this post http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?p=562873&postcount=2 were where we turned up just past the Belmont Park entrance (go the KTM!!).

That's from the CCA pics and story thread here http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=27185

Here's the complete CCA track plotted on Google to show you how we skirted around Wellington.

Ocean1
27th November 2007, 13:39
Okay so it is the same track you just entered down near the carpark. Can anyone ride behind the quarry?


We came down from Moonshine and out at Haywards in 2006. I haven't looked around since but I'd say if there are no barriers give it a go. You go up an angled track between the park entrance and the quarry and then we came out in the park.

On the organised rides all the routes are open for us so I'd never know which ones are normally closed.

There's barriers on both tracks. Land ownership is spread over several entities but the tracks seem to be considered walking access only. In fact the south one is signed as such, being Belmont regional park, under the auspices of the council. Pity, the northern bit behind the power stn sees almost zero foot traffic and is brilliant riding.

FlangMasterJ
27th November 2007, 13:55
By the way they have security cameras mounted right above the gate where we entered. Pity we only noticed this after trying to tip over the concrete blocks placed to deter riders.:lol:

merv
27th November 2007, 14:01
By the way they have security cameras mounted right above the gate where we entered. Pity we only noticed this after trying to tip over the concrete blocks placed to deter riders.:lol:

You're not in jail yet so I guess no-one was watching the camera shots.

Ocean1
27th November 2007, 14:01
By the way they have security cameras mounted right above the gate where we entered. Pity we only noticed this after trying to tip over the concrete blocks placed to deter riders.:lol:

Menace to society that's what you are. And native wildelife (there might be rare lesser green tailed things of some sort in there). And shrubbery, gorse is a dwindling comodity y'know.

FlangMasterJ
27th November 2007, 14:11
gorse is a dwindling comodity y'know.

LOL! My arms came out looking like they had just had accupuncture.

Ocean1
27th November 2007, 14:19
LOL! My arms came out looking like they had just had accupuncture.

Worst time of year for it, nice new green razor sharp wee bitches with a neurotoxin coating. Later in the year they don't hurt so much but they break off just under yer skin and you just got to wait until the inevitable infection spits 'em out. My favorites are the ones in yer knees, ya get to sit on the dunny working on them until they really hurt.

Grinner
27th November 2007, 14:19
The entrance is closed off by a large gate. Next to the gate they used to have a stile which you could lift your bike over but now they have added a metal railing above that and also put a couple of metre high blocks on the opposite side.

The extras to stop bikes have been added by the local horsey woman. Her farm backs onto the track and she believes it should be her own private nag riding track.
They are definatly not offical and if you complained to the local council they may remove them.

takitimu
27th November 2007, 14:27
Worst time of year for it, nice new green razor sharp wee bitches with a neurotoxin coating. Later in the year they don't hurt so much but they break off just under yer skin and you just got to wait until the inevitable infection spits 'em out. My favorites are the ones in yer knees, ya get to sit on the dunny working on them until they really hurt.

You must get them in pretty deep, I used to use a pocketknife to dig em out, waiting for an infection seems a pretty painful way of going about it.

Try Matagouri :), that stuff is even more evil than gorse.

merv
27th November 2007, 14:30
Some of those bloody thorns can puncture tyres :doh:

FlangMasterJ
27th November 2007, 14:31
The extras to stop bikes have been added by the local horsey woman. Her farm backs onto the track and she believes it should be her own private nag riding track.
They are definatly not offical and if you complained to the local council they may remove them.

Great thanks for the heads up.

Ocean1
27th November 2007, 15:04
You must get them in pretty deep, I used to use a pocketknife to dig em out, waiting for an infection seems a pretty painful way of going about it.

Welp, if they're not in deep yer just not trying hard enuf dude. And if they do need minor excavation to extract 'em a better tool is a large syringe needle.


Try Matagouri :), that stuff is even more evil than gorse.

Whassat? Bush lawyer?

takitimu
27th November 2007, 15:16
Welp, if they're not in deep yer just not trying hard enuf dude. And if they do need minor excavation to extract 'em a better tool is a large syringe needle.
I avoid running through gorse if possible, damn stuff get's everywhere :), I'd still take a pocketknife over any needle though, a needle is to pointed, the pocketknife gives you the ability to squeeze/lever the damn things out, nothing like stacking hay bales full of thistles ( no gloves of course ) to give you practise.


Whassat? Bush lawyer?
Matagouri is a South Island shrub, think of a cross between a gorse bush and a rose bush,decent size needles ( bigger than eight gorse or rose ).

http://www.backpack-newzealand.com/gallery/waimakariri/matagouri_branches

Basically a NZ thorn bush, ours were human height, but I'd head for a gorse bush given the option.


Some of those bloody thorns can puncture tyres :doh:

Absolutely, not to mention rip damn near anything, skin has no chance.

Ocean1
27th November 2007, 15:28
I avoid running through gorse if possible, damn stuff get's everywhere :), I'd still take a pocketknife over any needle though, a needle is to pointed, the pocketknife gives you the ability to squeeze/lever the damn things out, nothing like stacking hay bales full of thistles ( no gloves of course ) to give you practise.

But a needle lets you dig deeper without fucking up too much skin, less blood. Needles are way sharper than a knife, the sides of the tip are good for cutting and the tip is good for the pick & lever thing.


Matagouri is a South Island shrub, think of a cross between a gorse bush and a rose bush,decent size needles ( bigger than eight gorse or rose ).

Basically a NZ thorn bush, ours were human height, but I'd head for a gorse bush given the option.

Oh yeah, I grew up down south, I remember them.

F5 Dave
27th November 2007, 15:44
That sucks, it would be a bit lame on a dirtbike, but there are neat little areas in there for the Trials bike. Or so I hear:innocent:. Cameras never were near the gate. Oh well there goes another.