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McDuck
26th November 2007, 17:22
There have been two girls going up and down the road on a mini trail bike. Two of them on a 49cc, no plate no helmet wearing short shorts and singlets, prob. not even 15 years old. Would you make the call?
If sombody could direct me to some pics of skinless people to show them it would be good.
Conquiztador
26th November 2007, 17:24
There have been two girls going up and down the road on a mini trail bike. Two of them on a 49cc, no plate no helmet wearing short shorts and singlets, prob. not even 15 years old. Would you make the call?
If sombody could direct me to some pics of skinless people to show them it would be good.
See their parents.
deanohit
26th November 2007, 17:25
I would go say some thing to them and hand them some of these pics in the link, pretty girl, major road rash:
http://www.speedfreakinc.com/safety/extreme_roadrash_cause_effect_and_lesson_learned.h tml
98tls
26th November 2007, 17:27
Having a word is worth a shot but am guessing they would tell you to piss off.Hard one really,if they come off and lose some hide then chances are they wont do it again,if they come off and one lands on her head chances are she may never do anything again so yea i guess i would get a cop to have a word.
skelstar
26th November 2007, 17:30
Got any gear they can wear? Then they could still have some fun?
McDuck
26th November 2007, 17:32
No i dont have any spare gear that would come close to fitting them. (anybody that has met me would know why) In the end i did have a word to the cop, i know one of the local cops and got him to have a chat, i hope he got to them.
cynna
26th November 2007, 17:36
they wouldnt be harming me so i wouldnt ring th ecops. i was young once.........
Maha
26th November 2007, 17:37
Buy the cookies first then call the cops....:cool:
SwanTiger
26th November 2007, 17:39
What a dick ... just let kids be kids, if they fall off the scars will fade away because they're so young and their body will rejouvenate itself.
Just think of the positives if they did hurt themselves:
Possible time off school, possibility of getting a lolipop from the doctors office, reading those 3 year old gossip magazines in your local doctors waiting room, receiving free medical care, having an excuse not to do stuff because you're too sore "Mrs Hot School Teacher, can you scratch my crotch, it's itchy".
Think positive.
McDuck
26th November 2007, 17:40
There is a certin amount if i was young once, i have no problem with riding tha tbike on the road, it is the lack of protective gear that concerns me. Shure i dont even know there names but i would not wish skin grafts on anybody.
SwanTiger
26th November 2007, 17:45
I had sevre facial injuries from face planting when I was younger, it grows back, the pain helps scar your memory with all those great times you had doing stupid shit with no protective gear.
98tls
26th November 2007, 17:48
I had sevre facial injuries from face planting when I was younger, it grows back, the pain helps scar your memory with all those great times you had doing stupid shit with no protective gear. Agreed but theres a chance that severe facial injuries may be the least of there worrys.
McDuck
26th November 2007, 17:51
And also it is our ACC bills that go up as bikers. I would have absolutly no problem with them riding the thing how ever they want if they had riding gear.
Kiwifire72
26th November 2007, 17:52
Just talked to BIKEGAL68 who works at North Coms she said ring them and they will deal with it
McDuck
26th November 2007, 17:56
I did ealyer in the day i just wanted to see what others would ahve done.
homer
26th November 2007, 17:56
Having a word is worth a shot but am guessing they would tell you to piss off.Hard one really,if they come off and lose some hide then chances are they wont do it again,if they come off and one lands on her head chances are she may never do anything again so yea i guess i would get a cop to have a word.
personally "some" women wouldnt do much anyways ........at all
So i would waste my time .
SwanTiger
26th November 2007, 17:56
Agreed but theres a chance that severe facial injuries may be the least of there worrys.
True, they're parents could confiscate the bike for an extended period of time, that's the only thing I could thing of being worse than any injury.
kiwifruit
26th November 2007, 18:04
See their parents.
^ yep
Brett
26th November 2007, 18:07
I would start with the parents and make it clear just how much skin on road hurts, failing that...let the coppers get involved.
McDuck
26th November 2007, 18:07
True, they're parents could confiscate the bike for an extended period of time, that's the only thing I could thing of being worse than any injury.
Or they could spend the rest of there lifes knowing that something is wrong but they dont know what.
McDuck
26th November 2007, 18:13
I would start with the parents and make it clear just how much skin on road hurts, failing that...let the coppers get involved.
I dont know how effective the parents would be. I was the same year as the girls oldest brother (who now dose not get along with the family)and he bullyed me (we are now mates, strange that) and the mum did not seem to concerned with doing anything about that then.
Remembering i am only 19 not a 40s or 50s experienced biker....
Oakie
26th November 2007, 19:19
I'd tell the cops if they were a danger to others or if it got to a point where it was really annoying.
Pancakes
26th November 2007, 19:24
If they had helmets on I'd say leave it. Most of your body grows back at lowish speeds - lesson learned. Brains are a different story. Oh that brian injury smarts the 6th time around, I'm still getting over it. Not so worried about the legal side of things just the permanent damage issue. You could be their mate now and start pashing them when they're old enough?
McDuck
26th November 2007, 21:41
If they had helmets on I'd say leave it. Most of your body grows back at lowish speeds - lesson learned. Brains are a different story. Oh that brian injury smarts the 6th time around, I'm still getting over it. Not so worried about the legal side of things just the permanent damage issue. You could be their mate now and start pashing them when they're old enough?
That would be a while..... and there are others that i know in that age group i would rather be pashing (without souding to dodgy)
fredie
26th November 2007, 22:40
cant they ride in paddock or feild . not the road or street
Tank
26th November 2007, 23:14
If sombody could direct me to some pics of skinless people to show them it would be good.
here you go: www.hotchickswithlegswideopen.com
Probably NWS and if you go around showing it to 15 yo girls you are either going to jail or someone's going to come give you a bash.
Kittyhawk
26th November 2007, 23:33
Let them ride, I used to do stupid things which were similar... but make sure they protect their noggins....once the head is damaged that's it..
Im glad I wore a helmet...made me feel like a real bike racer :shutup:
0arbreaka
26th November 2007, 23:42
If its a mini trail bike, tell them to get the bloody thing off the road and onto the local reserve/farm etc etc.. unless its got motard tyres:headbang:..... Falling off one of those things on grass hurts less than falling off on the road.
Pretty much, just go and pull the grumpy neighbor yelling at the kids thing, it worked for me.
Motards are cool, so i'd turn a blind eye..
Usarka
26th November 2007, 23:59
I spoke to some one recently who wont let their kids climb a tree.
Forest
27th November 2007, 01:16
I spoke to some one recently who wont let their kids climb a tree.
Around here we call those cotton-wool kids.
McDuck
27th November 2007, 07:40
As i said i am happy for them to ride it on the road they were not going fast etc but without a helmet?
Blue Thunder
27th November 2007, 07:50
Just talked to BIKEGAL68 who works at North Coms she said ring them and they will deal with it
Go Girl:banana: Let the authorities have a word with them, better chance that they may listen if given a bit of a scare by someone other than parents!
I also have a similar problem round my neighborhood. problem here being the proximity of a rest home and elderly people taking their daily stroll on their zimmer frames, poor buggers don't stand a chance of getting out of the way of these little darlings at speed on the footpath.
Lets educate these future bikers into correct behaviour now and maybe we can save the grief of more accidents or fatalities.
Pancakes
27th November 2007, 08:17
I spoke to some one recently who wont let their kids climb a tree.
Around here we call those cotton-wool kids.
One of the parents around here was shocked that I let my son crash his bike. He's only had it a week and if he gets distracted and goes off the footpath He'll fall into the grassy ditch. I make sure I catch him if there's something that could hurt him badly but even then still lower him to where he would have landed.
Now after 4 days of riding, coming off 3 - 4 times a day He's really good at it and I think crashing with style is a great skill to have. He spreads the fall or jumps out of the way and has learned it doesn't hurt too bad as well.
jim.cox
27th November 2007, 08:32
Would you make the call?
NO,
I would not involve the authoriries (what sort of safety nazi are you?)
But I would try to have a word with them
Yeah, they will probably take no notice
They will eventually learn - by experience - and it'll take a least two leassons vefore it really sinks in
You can't save people for themselves, and nor should you be trying to.
You'll make the world a better place by being a positve rolemodel instead
DMNTD
27th November 2007, 08:43
NO,
I would not involve the authorities (what sort of safety nazi are you?)
But I would try to have a word with them
Yeah, they will probably take no notice
They will eventually learn - by experience - and it'll take a least two lessons before it really sinks in
You can't save people for themselves, and nor should you be trying to.
+1... I don't see any reasons to involve the Police either.
I see more often that not people complaining about the Police being "over the top" or hassling "us"....why call them? <_<
Christ...I'm going to sound OLD now but back in my day :eek: we didn't have all this PC bullshit,we actually shared bottled water too! :laugh:
nodrog
27th November 2007, 08:54
we didn't have all this PC bullshit,we actually shared bottled water too! :laugh:
we used to have to get our own.
-df-
27th November 2007, 09:37
I'd just leave them to it myself...I quite often take the CR for a quick blat to test things out...and depending on what I'm testing sometimes I wont chuck on my helmet (if I go off my road I do tho, its a small road).
Busy bodies annoy me when it doesn't effect anyone else...had some twat come and tell me not to ride in a certain place at muriwai beach on sunday...why? "because there is enough beach for everyone". Its like come on, I wasn't anywhere near people, was up at the beach access by the stream trying to learn how to wheelie properly...he was prob pissed I had a small gathering starting to watch me and not him (was getting close to some nice bails...guessing they were waiting for some carnage action).
Grahameeboy
27th November 2007, 09:44
I'd just leave them to it myself...I quite often take the CR for a quick blat to test things out...and depending on what I'm testing sometimes I wont chuck on my helmet (if I go off my road I do tho, its a small road).
Busy bodies annoy me when it doesn't effect anyone else...had some twat come and tell me not to ride in a certain place at muriwai beach on sunday...why? "because there is enough beach for everyone". Its like come on, I wasn't anywhere near people, was up at the beach access by the stream trying to learn how to wheelie properly...he was prob pissed I had a small gathering starting to watch me and not him (was getting close to some nice bails...guessing they were waiting for some carnage action).
Highway, no helmet = illegal but your choice.
With these gals, well I reckon the Cops should be called. How would we feel if we did nothing and one of the gals was seriously injured.
-df-
27th November 2007, 09:47
Highway, no helmet = illegal but your choice.
With these gals, well I reckon the Cops should be called. How would we feel if we did nothing and one of the gals was seriously injured.
where did I say highway and no helmet? I said on my road outside my house for a quick test (like 2-5mins MAX) for fueling, changing setup etc...and I can't then say to someone else...do what I say, not what I do...
if you mean on the beach I was wearing a helmet, always do.
EDIT: hell...if I know I'm doing more then 20-30km/h there is no way I'd not wear one...but if someone else wants to...up to them
Usarka
27th November 2007, 09:48
I'd feel that they made a choice, took the risk and need to accept the consequences.
Grahameeboy
27th November 2007, 09:51
where did I say highway and no helmet? I said on my road outside my house for a quick test (like 2-5mins MAX) for fueling, changing setup etc...and I can't then say to someone else...do what I say, not what I do...
if you mean on the beach I was wearing a helmet, always do.
EDIT: hell...if I know I'm doing more then 20-30km/h there is no way I'd not wear one...but if someone else wants to...up to them
Your street is a road / highway.
Guess you cannot be a hypocrite but you could set an example.......
Tank
27th November 2007, 09:52
If you call the police you will forever be known as the arsehole next door.
Just have a word with them - if they ignore it - well, let God sort it out.
C
-df-
27th November 2007, 09:57
Your street is a road / highway.
Guess you cannot be a hypocrite but you could set an example.......
ahhh, fair enough...thought you were meaning taking the dirtbike for a blat on the motorway! (having a few blonde moments today)
no need to set an example, I believe in darwinisim...if you are not smart enough to know to put a helmet on when travelling at speed (or full stop, if it happens to me when I'm not then I deserve it...best to get me out of this world before I reproduce) then you deserve to die if something happens...we need to evolve as a race as its stopped (see sig).
nodrog
27th November 2007, 10:02
no kid is going to think anyform of activity is fun if they have to suit up everytime they leave the house, no wonder kids are sitting inside getting fat, nobody hassles you about safety when you are killing people on playstation!
Grahameeboy
27th November 2007, 10:02
ahhh, fair enough...thought you were meaning taking the dirtbike for a blat on the motorway! (having a few blonde moments today)
no need to set an example, I believe in darwinisim...if you are not smart enough to know to put a helmet on when travelling at speed (or full stop, if it happens to me when I'm not then I deserve it...best to get me out of this world before I reproduce) then you deserve to die if something happens...we need to evolve as a race as its stopped (see sig).
I guess I cannot disagree with control of your own destiny....
Grahameeboy
27th November 2007, 10:06
no kid is going to think anyform of activity is fun if they have to suit up everytime they leave the house, no wonder kids are sitting inside getting fat, nobody hassles you about safety when you are killing people on playstation!
Ahhh......domo grasshopper sensei..........wide nor helmet, nor get fat.....play playstation....nor get erection...............
nodrog
27th November 2007, 10:21
Ahhh......domo grasshopper sensei..........wide nor helmet, nor get fat.....play playstation....nor get erection...............
you want to touch a grasshoppers erection?
Grahameeboy
27th November 2007, 10:36
you want to touch a grasshoppers erection?
No...but wondered why jrandom only used hand towels:innocent:
PuppetMaster
27th November 2007, 10:54
Would you make the call?
Nope. Each to their own.
There is a guy from the end of our street that reguarly rides his XR400 up and down the road, occasionally he has a young (5 yrs old-ish) girl on his lap. Neither wear helmets. i must admit, I do wish he'd crash, just for laughs.
breakaway
27th November 2007, 13:41
There have been two girls going up and down the road on a mini trail bike. Two of them on a 49cc, no plate no helmet wearing short shorts and singlets, prob. not even 15 years old. Would you make the call?
If sombody could direct me to some pics of skinless people to show them it would be good.
Are they hot?
Usarka
27th November 2007, 13:59
guy at works mate just got a car jack thrown though the drivers window trying to escape a road rage incident and smashed into a power fence. cops were too busy to attend (wtf is going on in auckland if something like this isnt serious enough for the cops????)
if the cops are "too busy" to turn up to this i'd be pretty pissed if they bothered about a couple of kids having fun.
Renegade
27th November 2007, 20:22
guy at works mate just got a car jack thrown though the drivers window trying to escape a road rage incident and smashed into a power fence. cops were too busy to attend (wtf is going on in auckland if something like this isnt serious enough for the cops????)
if the cops are "too busy" to turn up to this i'd be pretty pissed if they bothered about a couple of kids having fun.
if i was a cop the only way i would work in auckland is if i was kitted up like demolition man and they gave me license to clean that hole up.
assaults = bang
theft = bang
etc
etc
etc
stuff it, its clean up time tree huggers!!!
and for those who disagree, i dont care, my world would be so much better to live in once all the crap is out and we can live in peace and have some fun!!
McDuck
27th November 2007, 23:09
Are they hot?
Dirty old man..... i am only 19 and they are to young for me.:whistle:
breakaway
27th November 2007, 23:12
Dirty old man..... i am only 19 and they are to young for me.:whistle:
Old enough to read, old enough to bleed
mstriumph
27th November 2007, 23:33
safety standards have now advanced to the state where it's practically a hanging offence for motorcyclists to even push the bike off it's stand without being fully kitted up in body armour, kevlar, boots and fullface
makes me smile a bit
also makes me feel sooooooooooo oooooooooold
- usta ride the Honda in an indian cotton blouse, beads, miniskirt and high heels in the '70s ........... t'was FUN
*sigh* :mellow:
cynna
28th November 2007, 02:15
- usta ride the Honda in an indian cotton blouse, beads, miniskirt and high heels in the '70s ........... t'was FUN
*sigh* :mellow:
how did you manage to live to tell the tale. surely riding like that is a death sentence.........
mstriumph
28th November 2007, 11:41
nahhhhhhh
it's one of the odd facts of life that, if you don't KNOW what you are doing is impossible,
you just go ahead and do it ........ and survive
*sigh*
to add a little body to this 'safety' thread ...
........does anybody wanna tell me about how UNHEALTHY the tank water is on our smallholding? how many beasties have crawled into the pipes to die? what nasty little bugs are breeding like - well - bugs in there and how STUPIDLY dangerously we are behaving in drinking it?
hmmmmmm - you can also explain to me, at the same time, why i have been so MUCH healthier since moving here than i was all the time i lived in the city, with its purified, sterilized, dosed and sanitized-for-our-protection city water supply .....
safety is important
but cotton wool sometimes smothers rather than cushions
think about it
- too late to tell you to think before calling the police as you already have - but ............is it our JOB in life to fence all the rivers? stick 'trip hazard' warnings on every kerb? fill in the grande canyon in case someone falls in? at what point does care for another's safety become an intrusion into their interaction with their own life on their own terms?
Big Dave
28th November 2007, 11:51
I spent most of my teens finding places to ride my mini bikes without getting busted.
Like we need some goody two shoes who is supposed to be on our side dobbing kids in.
McDuck
28th November 2007, 22:12
Could i say a few things.
1. I know the cop. He is not a traffic cop he is a dog handler so (i think) he dose not even have a ticket book.
2. He only talked about helmets, bike maintenance and riding positions on the road not full riding gear, not dont ride it 'you will die' kind of stuff.
3. After extensive testing i did a while back i found that the tank with rotten possum in it tasted better than rotten rat.
If i thought that they would listen to me would i have spoken to them? Yes.
If i did not know the cop i told would i have made the call? No.
Am i going to lose sleep over them because they are Still riding around with no gear? No.
As pointed out above it is the choice of the person i just did not believe they knew the risks. They do now. The ball is in their court.
McDuck
28th November 2007, 22:20
nahhhhhhh
- too late to tell you to think before calling the police as you already have - but ............is it our JOB in life to fence all the rivers? stick 'trip hazard' warnings on every kerb? fill in the grande canyon in case someone falls in? at what point does care for another's safety become an intrusion into their interaction with their own life on their own terms?
It is to much when they have been told once and ignored it.
I agree, why should this world be safe and with signs everywhere telling people of evry single danger? It should not but people should get told of a danger like this, if they take the risk then they take the risk. Yes drinking that tank water may have been dodgy, BUT YOU KNEW about it. Guys ride up to the beach every day on big trail bikes at high speeds not usaly with a helmet, certainly Far above safe speeds but they know the risks, i let them be. i genuinely believe these kids didnt know the risks.
Jorja
28th November 2007, 22:25
What a dick ... just let kids be kids, if they fall off the scars will fade away because they're so young and their body will rejouvenate itself.
Just think of the positives if they did hurt themselves:
Possible time off school, possibility of getting a lolipop from the doctors office, reading those 3 year old gossip magazines in your local doctors waiting room, receiving free medical care, having an excuse not to do stuff because you're too sore "Mrs Hot School Teacher, can you scratch my crotch, it's itchy".
Think positive.
Obviously not a parent!!!
What if they were killed by a car? Would it be ok to call the cops then?
Talk to them. If no joy go to their parents. If you don't know them, try the cops. It is a hard one. I would think to myself 'if i do nothing and they are hurt could i live with it?'
SwanTiger
29th November 2007, 01:34
Obviously not a parent!!!
What if they were killed by a car? Would it be ok to call the cops then?
Talk to them. If no joy go to their parents. If you don't know them, try the cops. It is a hard one. I would think to myself 'if i do nothing and they are hurt could i live with it?'
Uh obviously I am! Just not one of the irrational over reactive sort.
Common sense prevails, if someone is about to do great harm to themselves, do something or stand back and laugh. Don't second guess yourself and seek the further opinion of your peers on a fucking internet forum.
Sketchy_Racer
29th November 2007, 07:35
If they're traveling faster than they can run, then they probably should have a helmet.
Thats the way i see it.
Other wise stop being so PC and let the bastards learn from mistakes!
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