What's the world coming to?

[Morcs]

I came home at 9am this morning to see my little sister (14yo) snoozing away in bed (and was still sleeping when I went out at lunchtime).

This has been a regular thing, shes doesnt have nights out, or any illness/disorders.

Its basically skiving off school.

Back in the day, the only way off getting off school would be either if you are dying, or spend the entire day hiding on the run from parents, teachers and the police...

Now her parents are good parents, no-where near as harsh on her as they were to me (maybe cos shes a girl and has a different mother?) but this sickens me.

Society is so fucked that a kid can bunk off school for being 'tired' and there is fuck all parents can really do about it, unless they are really decent kids, or have had the fear of god beaten into them.

So, what is the world coming to eh?

[Trudes]

Generation Y. Spoiled kids by parents who can't say "NO". The world owes them something, everything maybe, and they want it now!!

[Disco Dan]

I came home at 9am this morning to see my little sister (14yo) snoozing away in bed (and was still sleeping when I went out at lunchtime).

This has been a regular thing, shes doesnt have nights out, or any illness/disorders.

Its basically skiving off school.

Back in the day, the only way off getting off school would be either if you are dying, or spend the entire day hiding on the run from parents, teachers and the police...

Now her parents are good parents, no-where near as harsh on her as they were to me (maybe cos shes a girl and has a different mother?) but this sickens me.

Society is so fucked that a kid can bunk off school for being 'tired' and there is fuck all parents can really do about it, unless they are really decent kids, or have had the fear of god beaten into them.

So, what is the world coming to eh?

9am? Did not think the sun comes up until at least lunchtime... :pinch:

I have contacts with a certain organisation that 'catches' truants? :devil2:

[Mom]

Assume she lives at home?

Parents drag missy from her pit, insist she gets dressed, if refused drive missy to school in her jimjams or whatever she happens to be wearing at the time.........reckon that would be the last time she did that.

Fuck what is wrong with parents these days.........:angry2:

Morcs..........you do the deed.........drag the madame to school, she will hate you for it, but I figure eventually she will thank you for it!

[Timber020]

Do what any other older sibling would do, kick there butts. Your parents are letting is slide, but you dont have to. My brother at 26 knows if he screws up royal I will be on his case, dont blame the world, blame the people who complain and do nothing.

[Morcs]

9am? Did not think the sun comes up until at least lunchtime... :pinch:

I have contacts with a certain organisation that 'catches' truants? :devil2:

Yeah only problem is its the parents who get punished, not the kid.


Assume she lives at home?

Parents drag missy from her pit, insist she gets dressed, if refused drive missy to school in her jimjams or whatever she happens to be wearing at the time.........reckon that would be the last time she did that.

Fuck what is wrong with parents these days.........:angry2:

Morcs..........you do the deed.........drag the madame to school, she will hate you for it, but I figure eventually she will thank you for it!

I would except I work from 7:30-7:30...

Though I do like the idea of slinging her on the bike of my bike in jimjams and scaring the living shit out of her all the way to massey...

[yungatart]

I work with several teenagers who are too tired to come to school. Apparently they all have "chronic fatigue syndrome".
Apparently they often play on the XBox or PS till the wee small hours too!
Seems to me, their parents are letting them down big time.
Kick their lazy arses off to bed at a reasonable hour, and them kick them out in the morning, I say!

[HTFU]

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Fuck what is wrong with parents these days.........:angry2:

Morcs..........you do the deed.........drag the madame to school, she will hate you for it, but I figure eventually she will thank you for it!

Where do you start ?. Go spend a lunchtime at your local high school just to see the extent of the problems out there, and these are the ones at school :shit:.

As for physically trying to make her do anything. Joke right.

Take away phone credit, or cell phone. Restrict the supply of the good things, to give her a bit of a wake up ( pun not intended) call.

Maybe parents giving a shit during the years 12-14. Doing stuff as a family you know all the basics. Showing her the real world through leading by example as parents, getting out and doing things, not just watching tv or movies. Work, work, work. :angry:

Funny watching the 100 or so parents who come out enthusiastically to watch their 5-11 year olds do athletics club each week, swimming club, tennis lessons, dance and gymnastics. They get to high-school and not one turns up to anything. I even contemplated buying a van just so I could transport all the school teams around as no parents turn up for anything once they reach high-school.

(life story warning) My old man came to everything he could, rugby on weekends, athletics meets. Parent teacher interviews, school camps the works. Kids telling parents not to come because they are embarrassed :nono: and the parents not actually coming, crazy stuff.

[Mom]

Though I do like the idea of slinging her on the bike of my bike in jimjams and scaring the living shit out of her all the way to massey...

Not so sure about the scaring the living shit out of her but.......taking her to school in her jammies would work, she would hate you of course!.....meh, that till she matured a little bit!


I work with several teenagers who are too tired to come to school. Apparently they all have "CROCK OF SHIT SYNDROME".
Apparently they often play on the XBox or PS till the wee small hours too!
Seems to me, their parents are letting them down big time.
Kick their lazy arses off to bed at a reasonable hour, and them kick them out in the morning, I say!

+10 +10 What the fuck is wrong with parents these days!



As for physically trying to make her do anything. Joke right.


Nope! This stuff should be done when kids are small enough to educate them you mean it!

My 15y/o daughter played the going to school (and heaven knows where else card) with a restricted driver behind the wheel. I told her never again! The consequences for her if she did were all of these.......

1. call to boys parents to let them know what he was doing outside his liscense conditions;
2. call to school to let them know he was breaking the rules around being allowed the priveledge of driving to school and;
3. call to police with rego number of car, and advice tht he was breaking license conditions.

Yep I got the "you would not dare, then the i will hate you forever comment, then the "look"" That look says...........oh shit you mean it!........and that was the end of me having to worry about her in that car......she feels great, because she can blame me for being a bitch, I feel great because she knows I will not hesitate to follow through.

[Swoop]

I work with several teenagers who are too tired to come to school. Apparently they all have "chronic fatigue syndrome".
Apparently they often play on the XBox or PS till the wee small hours too!
Spot on with that one!
Bedtime at a reasonable hour - WITHOUT a cellphone, playbox x-station or whatever in the room!
A lot of kids stay up untill very late and then wonder why they are tired... Geeze. Go figure!
Weekends, yes. Schoolnights, no.

A lot of the international students stay up late so they can chat with overseas friends on msn (etc).

[TerminalAddict]

get elected on to your kids high school board of trustees, then volunteer to run the disciplinary committee ... suddenly your 14 year old daughter is an angel.

and in a school of 2000 kids she can't hide anymore.

"Hello Ashleigh, you're Mr Willards' daughter aren't you?"

[imdying]

Now her parents are good parentsNo, no they're not. They let it come to this. That != good parents.

[naughtygirl]

Same thing at my parents, both of my younger sisters get days off so easy, when i was at school, if i wasnt vomiting and on my death bed then i was at school!

My sister had a swollen lip from biting it in her sleep = Day off school
My sister was tired from riding her horse all day the day before = Day off school
PATHETIC!!

[Skyryder]

Don't know how old she is but at this time of year many students don't have classes to go to. I think they call it study time or something.

I picking, if you will excuse the pun, you have a case of sour grapes.:girlfight:


Skyryder

[yungatart]

Don't know how old she is but at this time of year many students don't have classes to go to. I think they call it study time or something.

I picking, if you will excuse the pun, you have a case of sour grapes.:girlfight:


Skyryder

At 14 y/o she is probably year 9 or 10 (3rd or 4th form) and will have classes.
It is only seniors who have study leave for external exams.

[MisterD]

Now her parents are good parents, no-where near as harsh on her as they were to me (maybe cos shes a girl and has a different mother?) but this sickens me.

It's a side-track I know, but you do realise that all parents are always softer on the second child? Us oldest kids have to break the buggers in for those that follow us...

[Hawkeye]

I work with several teenagers who are too tired to come to school. Apparently they all have "chronic fatigue syndrome".
Apparently they often play on the XBox or PS till the wee small hours too!
Seems to me, their parents are letting them down big time.
Kick their lazy arses off to bed at a reasonable hour, and them kick them out in the morning, I say!

The power cord on my sons playstation and TV has been slowly getting shorter.
It happens every time the son thinks he can stretch the boundaries. Take one pair of wire cutters, apply liberally to the plug end of the cord and walk away.
It's amazing how the focus changes after that.

In this day and age where no-one is allowed to apply discipline without having the authorities knocking on your door, finding things that get through to them has to become inventive. Applying a hammer to a cell phone is also another one that certainly gets the attention. The cell was not a gift, it was a loner which I bought so it is my parogative (sp) to do what I want. Too many parents 'gift' their teenagers cell phones meaning it then belongs to the teenager. I prefer to 'lend' them one for safety reasons. That way, because it is only a loner, I have the option of recall.

[Bass]

The power cord on my sons playstation and TV has been slowly getting shorter.
It happens every time the son thinks he can stretch the boundaries. Take one pair of wire cutters, apply liberally to the plug end of the cord and walk away.
It's amazing how the focus changes after that.

In this day and age where no-one is allowed to apply discipline without having the authorities knocking on your door, finding things that get through to them has to become inventive. Applying a hammer to a cell phone is also another one that certainly gets the attention. The cell was not a gift, it was a loner which I bought so it is my parogative (sp) to do what I want. Too many parents 'gift' their teenagers cell phones meaning it then belongs to the teenager. I prefer to 'lend' them one for safety reasons. That way, because it is only a loner, I have the option of recall.

Now THAT is pro-active parenting. I am impressed.
Respect!

[ManDownUnder]

The power cord on my sons playstation and TV has been slowly getting shorter.
It happens every time the son thinks he can stretch the boundaries. Take one pair of wire cutters, apply liberally to the plug end of the cord and walk away.
It's amazing how the focus changes after that

LOVE IT!!!!!

I'm personally a fan of natural justice. The kid in question is welcome to play the damned playstation all night as far as I'm concerned. The fact is they need to be on deck the next morning for school and far as I am concerned that's where they'll be.

Wakey wakey at 7:30 or whatever - they feel like crap? COURSE THEY DO! And it's all their own damned fault.

The next night they'll be on the games again till the small hours... andf the following morning the cycle repeats... again.. and they feel like crap again!

It's amasing how quickly people work out their own actions are actually causing the problem. Fatigue Syndrome sounds like a label to sell therapy to me. More like "Can't be bothered syndrome"

[Edbear]

...and that was the end of me having to worry about her in that car......she feels great, because she can blame me for being a bitch, I feel great because she knows I will not hesitate to follow through.


Well put! It gives her cred with her schoolmates being able to blame you and also gives her confidence that you mean what you say - in this case a negative but transfers to the positive, if you know what I mean...<_<

Next step is to convince her that she can make sensible decisions that go contrary to the silly mob- mentality and understand that her schoolmates will respect her for it even if it means a bit of ribbing at first. Letting them know she has her own principles and is prepared to stick up for them does good in the long term.

[mstriumph]

Morcs ---- isn't a quiet chat with your parents in order?

[Edbear]

It's a side-track I know, but you do realise that all parents are always softer on the second child? Us oldest kids have to break the buggers in for those that follow us...


I've apologised to my son! :( But he's 32 now and still loves us!:2thumbsup)

The problem is that the poor firstborn has brand new, usually young, parents with no experience! :banana:We make all our mistakes on the first! Ours were 4-5 years apart and by the time number two came along, (coupled with being a girl and the direct opposite of our son's personality:baby:), we were starting to get the hang of it and then by the time our youngest was born, (another girl but about mid-way between her two older siblings), we were old hands at it and she was a breeze!:calm:

[Bloody Mad Woman (BMW)]

We had to be near dead to stay home from school. Crikey I remember having an accident on my pushbike - broke my nose, scraped knees etc - ok I had been told not to speed down the driveway (steep) which then curves round - well there was gravel on the turn - kasplat - went home got the "told you so" now get to school. This was at 14 years of age.

[Street Gerbil]

I feel for you, Peter. But remember, even the most spoiled brat these days has 3 weak spots:
1) Internet
2) Cellular phone
3) Allowance

Sapienti sat.

[marty]

my kids (12 and 16) don't get an allowance. they work (paper run and supermartket) for their $$.

their phones are their lifeline to their friends. my daughter is without hers atm. my son has gone without his recently.

with wireless internet is is surprisingly easy to block their laptops. :)

no tv's in the bedroom. PS2 has gone to a friends while NCEA study is on.

son went out to a party 4 weeks ago - decided to have a few beers and stay at his girlfriends place (normally OK, with permission discussed prior to going out), but we found that he DIDN'T stay there, instead staying at a mates house whose 'rents were in aussie! imagine how upset he was when we told him no more parties til xmas!

i'm the chairman of the BOT at my daughter's school, and go on hockey and school camps with the kids from the high school - went for drinks with the 5th form dean 2 weeks ago.......

joys of living in a smallish community.