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Mikkel
29th November 2007, 17:31
I was quite surprised when I managed to scrape my boot on the tarmac commuting home today...

Was going uphill through a fairly tight left hand corner about 500 meters from my house. I wasn't pushing hard or anything, just sat comfortably with my feet flat on the pegs. Laid the bike down going pretty wide into the corner since the inside of the surface is slightly corrugated. Thought "WTF was that?":eek: and realised I had just scraped the toe of my boot going through the corner - weird feeling...:crazy:

Just had to share! :)

jrandom
29th November 2007, 17:33
It's good, isn't it?

How big are your rear chicken strips now?

Mom
29th November 2007, 17:35
I was quite surprised when I managed to scrape my boot on the tarmac commuting home today...

Was going uphill through a fairly tight left hand corner about 500 meters from my house. I wasn't pushing hard or anything, just sat comfortably with my feet flat on the pegs. Laid the bike down going pretty wide into the corner since the inside of the surface is slightly corrugated. Thought "WTF was that?":eek: and realised I had just scraped the toe of my boot going through the corner - weird feeling...:crazy:

Just had to share! :)

Well done, I think?.........LOL

Try tucking your feet back up on the pegs, ride on the "balls" of your feet, saves boot leather, gives you a heap more leanability before the boots touch, and allows you the option of changing your centre of gravity quickly should things start to go haywire!

MidnightMike
29th November 2007, 17:36
Mint, knee next.

I had to put little bits of tape on my nice new sidi's after doing the same thing without sliders. :( Feck it

ps. have you scraped your pegs previous to you toe? If not, you might want to move your feet up a bit.

hXc
29th November 2007, 17:42
I need to slow down. I don't hang my feet off the pegs at all, yet I seem to be just about through the soles of my boots.

jrandom
29th November 2007, 17:44
I need to slow down.

Do you corner with the balls of your feet up on the pegs?

I don't like catching my boots on the road, so it's become habit to shift the feet up as I tip in.

Toes on pegs makes it easier to stick a knee out and impress the girls, too.

:niceone:

hXc
29th November 2007, 17:48
Do you corner with the balls of your feet up on the pegs?

I don't like catching my boots on the road, so it's become habit to shift the feet up as I tip in.

Toes on pegs makes it easier to stick a knee out and impress the girls, too.

:niceone:My boots are shit, so I have them as far up on the pegs as I can. Not quite the balls, but I don't hang 'em off like a kid on the monkey bars.

jrandom
29th November 2007, 17:49
My boots are shit, so I have them as far up on the pegs as I can. Not quite the balls, but I don't hang 'em off like a kid on the monkey bars.

You need a proper sprotsbike with high pegs sir.

When are you getting your full licence?

hXc
29th November 2007, 17:52
You need a proper sprotsbike with high pegs sir.

When are you getting your full licence?I won't be getting a bigger bike 'til I get back from yonder, probably not for a long time after that anyway.
I can go for it now, but I haven't really got the money.

xwhatsit
29th November 2007, 17:53
I've had a couple of Australian friends over staying with me just after uni exams finished. They came at different times, so I pillioned both of them. The 90kg 6'+ dude made the 250RS go like a small moped and handle like a large truck, so we only did that once (and for a short distance), but having the 45kg girl on the back was a much more pleasant experience.

Still retained a decent amount of performance, and handling didn't suffer very much at all. So much so that I forgot about her and went through the St Helier's GP at `normal' speed. The RS has a decent amount of ground clearance before the pegs start scraping, and the engine is mounted low in the frame, so I can often afford to be lazy and put my feet in the `wrong' position (i.e. balls of feet in front of the pegs), and with a pillion pushing your arse further up the seat it's more comfortable. Was quite shocked when the additional weight of the pillion contributed to a very scary moment when my foot got caught between the road and the peg. Didn't do that again -- but had a ball scraping the pegs the rest of the outing anyway.

Need harder shocks, methinks :laugh:

jrandom
29th November 2007, 17:56
Need harder shocks, methinks

Sounds like almost running your foot over with the peg was quite enough of a shock!

Sigh.

Ba-dum, tish.

Sorry.

Blimp1
29th November 2007, 18:23
I was going around a left turning corner on a downhill slope and hit a small depression in the middle and the kickstand mount made a shit load of noise and was scraping all over the road, it sort of hit then bounced up and hit again fairly quickly. I'm assuming i need to get the rear suspension stiffened up?Also if i dont have the specific tool which is used to do that is there any other way or will i have to go back to the shop to get it done?

DUCATI*HARD
29th November 2007, 18:23
learner guy:baby:

Mom
29th November 2007, 18:37
Do you corner with the balls of your feet up on the pegs?

I don't like catching my boots on the road, so it's become habit to shift the feet up as I tip in.

Toes on pegs makes it easier to stick a knee out and impress the girls, too.

:niceone:


I did a lot of off road riding in my youth, the balls of feet on pegs thing is instinctive for me. I ride behind lots of very fast and extremely competent riders on the road, and always look at where their feet are on the pegs. Some are flat footed, and have toe sliders grazed, some are open footed and are missing half their boots, some are tucked up and have shiney boot sliders.......they all go shit loads faster than me.

One of the first things I re-learned getting back on two wheels AC (after children) was just how important your weighting of the pegs was when taking a corner at the wrong speed, wrong line etc.

I would not say toes on pegs, but certainly not flat footed on the pegs. As far as the knee down thang..........wheelies impress me more :dodge:

xwhatsit
29th November 2007, 18:42
Balls on pegs definitely helps you put your weight down through your feet appropriately. Makes a big difference to my cornering at least (that's why even if I'm lazy with my feet around town, as soon as I get into any decent corners they're back up where they should be); counter-steering is just one way to make the bike point where you want it.

Mom
29th November 2007, 18:43
Didn't do that again -- but had a ball scraping the pegs the rest of the outing anyway.

Need harder shocks, methinks :laugh:

Mate, if one of your balls was scraping the foot peg for the rest of the outing, I really think you need to come here for some lessons on how to get your knee down. Really your balls should be nowhere near the road!!!!!!!:eek5:

Grub
29th November 2007, 18:52
I'm assuming i need to get the rear suspension stiffened up?


Need harder shocks, methinks

It's easy to be fooled into thinking that "... stuff needs to be hardened up ...", it could be a big mistake. I have spent months now trying to get my bike right after someone has done that to the CBR.

There's a thing called "sag" or "preload". That is the amount the bike sags front and rear when YOU sit on it. Every bike ought to have it's sag set up for the owner/rider because we're all different heights and weights.

For each bike there is a manufactrers recommendation for preload and that's what you set - and leave it (unless your name's Robt Taylor or Shaun Harris and you know what you're about). That preload determines that the bike settles to exactly what the manufacturers computers and CAD system said that it would perform and handle best at.

You do that by getting a mate to work with you. You extend the forks by pulling it up on the sidestand, put a cable tie around the bottom of the tube and ever so gently stand the bike up and carefully sit on it. Then you pull it up again and measure how far up the fork the cable tie is. On the CBR that should be 35-40mm. Then you do the same at the back. Lift the body, measure body to the swingarm and ten settle it down, climb on and measure again. On the CBR, it should be 35-40mm also. Now when you sit on the bike (in your normal riding position) it should sag (in my case) 35mm both front and rear.

Go putting a hard coil on the back or something like that and you could kill yourself and never know why.

xwhatsit
29th November 2007, 19:01
See what your saying Grub, but the 250RS has a pair of Honda FVQs on the back :laugh:

What's more, 25 year old FVQs. Springs like those in a ballpoint pen, and absolutely no damping to speak of from new. Of course it's not just a matter of just hardening everything up, but going with lighter springs and less damping is definitely not the right way to go.

Will be making sure any suspension modifications are appropriate to the bike, for sure.

Gubb
29th November 2007, 19:32
I was going around a left turning corner on a downhill slope and hit a small depression in the middle and the kickstand mount made a shit load of noise and was scraping all over the road, it sort of hit then bounced up and hit again fairly quickly. I'm assuming i need to get the rear suspension stiffened up?Also if i dont have the specific tool which is used to do that is there any other way or will i have to go back to the shop to get it done?

'tis easy, just use some type of levers (read: screwdrivers), place them at about 90 degree angles from each other on the top clicking nothches, and twist until you get to the desired setting.

Blimp1
29th November 2007, 19:37
Cheers i'll have a play with it during the weekend and see what i can come up with. Thanks for the help.

Gubb
29th November 2007, 19:49
No prob's, I set mine at 3/4 today, and am really enjoying the difference. Then again, the new brake pads also help considerably.

homer
29th November 2007, 19:59
about 9 years ago when i had a gpz 750
going between chch and akaroa i actually wore about 3 - 4 mm of the strap that held the nose cone in place .
that was riding 2 up as well ...but i think the nose cone must have been low on those bikes ?
i dont know...they had the nose cone and a gap in the middle with the strap running across and up each side

Mikkel
29th November 2007, 22:27
It's good, isn't it?

How big are your rear chicken strips now?

Chicken strips? I got new tyres two weeks ago and I'm pretty sure they were gone the next day... But I dunno what chicken strips are really. :blink:


Well done, I think?.........LOL

Try tucking your feet back up on the pegs, ride on the "balls" of your feet, saves boot leather, gives you a heap more leanability before the boots touch, and allows you the option of changing your centre of gravity quickly should things start to go haywire!

Yeah, I'm aware that resting on the balls of your feet gives you much more freedom to shift your weight around. However, as I said, this was on a*very* familiar road and I wasn't pushing hard or anything - just tipped her right in... :calm::eek:


Mint, knee next.

I had to put little bits of tape on my nice new sidi's after doing the same thing without sliders. :( Feck it

ps. have you scraped your pegs previous to you toe? If not, you might want to move your feet up a bit.

I haven't scratched neither knee nor peg before - I find that the corners on the public roads have too little tarmac to allow me to attempt that with confidence. The closest I've been so far har been an early saturday morning where I gunned it around and around a round about until I got dizzy and decided do something else. :) (The roads were practically deserted!)

And no worries. The Sidis are alright - they got nice toesliders so there was no sweat. :D

skidMark
30th November 2007, 02:22
I was quite surprised when I managed to scrape my boot on the tarmac commuting home today...

Was going uphill through a fairly tight left hand corner about 500 meters from my house. I wasn't pushing hard or anything, just sat comfortably with my feet flat on the pegs. Laid the bike down going pretty wide into the corner since the inside of the surface is slightly corrugated. Thought "WTF was that?":eek: and realised I had just scraped the toe of my boot going through the corner - weird feeling...:crazy:

Just had to share! :)


put your toes on the pegs.

Lteejay
30th November 2007, 06:55
I was quite surprised when I managed to scrape my boot on the tarmac commuting home today...

Was going uphill through a fairly tight left hand corner about 500 meters from my house. I wasn't pushing hard or anything, just sat comfortably with my feet flat on the pegs. Laid the bike down going pretty wide into the corner since the inside of the surface is slightly corrugated. Thought "WTF was that?":eek: and realised I had just scraped the toe of my boot going through the corner - weird feeling...:crazy:

Just had to share! :)

You might be needing some toe sliders now :banana: My toes are so far from the road at most times, I sometimes wonder why I have rounded tyres, flat strips of rubber would probably work as well. :lol:

Mikkel
30th November 2007, 07:00
put your toes on the pegs.

I usually do when I'm not riding casually...


You might be needing some toe sliders now :banana: My toes are so far from the road at most times, I sometimes wonder why I have rounded tyres, flat strips of rubber would probably work as well. :lol:

The sliders are there :) So they took the brunt of it.

DMNTD
30th November 2007, 07:07
Yep....us n00bies need to lift our feet up :whistle:


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Mikkel
30th November 2007, 07:10
:eek:

One turn and scrape or...? Looks as if the foot was fine - but still too close for comfort I'd say!

DMNTD
30th November 2007, 07:11
:eek:

One turn and scrape or...? Looks as if the foot was fine - but still too close for comfort I'd say!

All good...after the callouses form it's all butter :doh:

jim.cox
30th November 2007, 09:48
err

shouldn't that be "WHEE"?

One gets entirely the wrong impression from the subject line :)

Mikkel
30th November 2007, 10:18
err

shouldn't that be "WHEE"?

One gets entirely the wrong impression from the subject line :)

I stand corrected. According to www.dictionary.com there is indeed only one correct spelling for that expression:


whee /ʰwi, wi/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[hwee, wee] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–interjection
(used to express joy or delight).
[Origin: 1895–1900]

I would rectify the mistake ASAP. However, I am powerless to do so...

mynameis
30th November 2007, 19:32
I was quite surprised when I managed to scrape my boot on the tarmac commuting home today...

Was going uphill through a fairly tight left hand corner about 500 meters from my house. I wasn't pushing hard or anything, just sat comfortably with my feet flat on the pegs. Laid the bike down going pretty wide into the corner since the inside of the surface is slightly corrugated. Thought "WTF was that?":eek: and realised I had just scraped the toe of my boot going through the corner - weird feeling...:crazy:

Just had to share! :)

Put your feet up, so instead of the heel on the pegs, toes should be there. First boot down, then pegs, then knee down. Show us your chicken strips. How many mm is it now, if any?

kiwifruit
30th November 2007, 19:35
i got my knee down today

MidnightMike
30th November 2007, 20:16
i got my knee down today

That a first <_<

I prefer to burn through the rubber covers on my pegs. :innocent:

jrandom
1st December 2007, 10:46
i got my knee down today

Where are them 1.37s around taupo at eh?

hehehe

Ya beast!!:sunny::sunny:

Mikkel
2nd December 2007, 12:10
Put your feet up, so instead of the heel on the pegs, toes should be there. First boot down, then pegs, then knee down. Show us your chicken strips. How many mm is it now, if any?

Exactly what are the chicken strips?

James Deuce
2nd December 2007, 12:17
Chicken Strips: Unused portion of tyre. Seems to be an important measurement of one's testicular fortitude amongst sprotsbike riders.

I ground a bit more of my peg feelers away yesterday. It's cool when it happens and you weren't expecting it. Means you're relaxed. It's uncool when it happens during an accident because you were trying to scrape your boots.

Mikkel
2nd December 2007, 12:39
Thanks for that - I've been wondering about what they were exactly for a while now... Heard the term mentioned many times but never saw a definition of it.

Hmmm, the wear seems to be rather even all over the surface. Nothing sticking out anywhere - unfortunately I haven't got a way to post photos from here... :(

Anyway - me has balls tres fortes! :flex:

:rolleyes: ;)