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Drew
2nd December 2007, 21:03
Without detracting from the sad losses near Geraldine, I have to say that there are still a few of us out there who bring these tragedies upon themselves and by doing so tar us all with the same brush. Bex and I, accompanied by some biking friends witnessed a display of testosterone fuelled "circus tricks" along the Wairarapa back roads near Gladstone this afternoon. By that I mean
black Hornet - pops a half-mile, standing on pegs wheelie and rides behind and alongside us on the wrong side of the road as if to say "aren't I clever?"
Answer: Very probably, but you have no consideration for the safety of others using the road. So piss off and practise your stunts elsewhere!

Sorry, not really the right thread to vent that but, clever and skillful as it may be, when you see these sort of antics on a public road it begs the question...why?

No consideration??WTF you were doin fairly excessive speeds two up ya friggin hypocrit!

I was making sure to stay well clear of yourself and fellow rider, the half mile antics you speak of had clear road for twice the distance with no other traffic AT ALL!!!

To be clear it wasn't practice, I've done enough of it to know when it's cool, and when it's dumb.

To some up... if I was testosterone driven in my antics, what's your fuckin excuse for doin 160ks with a pillion when I did the first wheelie and couldn't get past you? You double standard types give me the shits!!!

SwanTiger
2nd December 2007, 21:14
what's your fuckin excuse for doin 160ks with a pillion when I did the first wheelie and couldn't get past you? You double standard types give me the shits!!!

I'm guessing that he wasn't on one wheel on the wrong side of the road trying to be the man...

cowboyz
2nd December 2007, 21:16
No consideration??WTF you were doin fairly excessive speeds two up ya friggin hypocrit!

I was making sure to stay well clear of yourself and fellow rider, the half mile antics you speak of had clear road for twice the distance with no other traffic AT ALL!!!

To be clear it wasn't practice, I've done enough of it to know when it's cool, and when it's dumb.

To some up... if I was testosterone driven in my antics, what's your fuckin excuse for doin 160ks with a pillion when I did the first wheelie and couldn't get past you? You double standard types give me the shits!!!

black Hornet - pops a half-mile, standing on pegs wheelie and rides behind and alongside us on the wrong side of the road as if to say "aren't I clever?"





only half mile? were you having an off day? Oh and the correct response would have been "fuck that looked cool"

Clivoris
2nd December 2007, 21:22
Circus tricks dude?
I hope you have a current circus guild membership. I am a descendent of two generations of clowns (no shit) and the clowns don't like non-union labour getting the attention. Best you pay some dues or we send around the fat bearded lady to give you a nasty rash.

Deano
2nd December 2007, 21:23
How long is a piece of string ?

Safety is in the eye of the beholder ?

My limit with the wife on the back is 160kph - is this crazy ?

I trust Drew's wheelies more than some other people's antics....

Two Smoker
2nd December 2007, 21:25
Wheelies are neither big nor clever....


Speed Kills...

R6_kid
2nd December 2007, 21:25
He's just jealous that despite his extra 400cc he can't get it up to impress the missus so he just does his thing really fast and hopes it does the trick.

Tony & Carolyn
2nd December 2007, 21:26
What a f..king joke!!!! First you have a winge in an inapropriate thread and then as drew has pointed out you were'nt exactly obeying the posted speed limit while two up...... How do i know this you say? cause i went passed you just before the aledged mono. You own a sports bike and ride at those speeds two up then bitch an moan when someone goes by HTFU!!!!!:crybaby:

Conquiztador
2nd December 2007, 21:47
One is doing 160 two up and other is doing wheelie on wrong side of road.

And you guys are arguing about who was in the right and who was in the wrong?

Perhaps time to get a dose of reality check.

TerminalAddict
2nd December 2007, 21:48
Wheelies are not clever, especially when the rider is a decade or so older than me, on my hornet, and I can't do them :cry:

*cough* warr *cough*

as you were with your arguing folks

merv
2nd December 2007, 21:59
I keep reminding you guys of that fellah driving the nice colourful car with the SLOWDN number plate. Are you guys trying to attract his attention through this forum or what?

We used to like the nice clear Wairarapa roads.

onearmedbandit
2nd December 2007, 21:59
I'm guessing that he wasn't on one wheel on the wrong side of the road trying to be the man...

Exactly, Obviously jealous of Drew's style.

bandit_girl
2nd December 2007, 21:59
One is doing 160 two up and other is doing wheelie on wrong side of road.

And you guys are arguing about who was in the right and who was in the wrong?

Perhaps time to get a dose of reality check.

Hmmmm.... I definately think that there's just too much of a pissing contest going on here....common sense surely does prevail on those dangerous roads.

Tank
2nd December 2007, 22:02
One is doing 160 two up and other is doing wheelie on wrong side of road.

And you guys are arguing about who was in the right and who was in the wrong?

Perhaps time to get a dose of reality check.

+1

you guys need to get your heads out of your ass'es. Seriously you both lose the rights to 'dis others when riding like that.

Drew
2nd December 2007, 22:20
One is doing 160 two up and other is doing wheelie on wrong side of road.

And you guys are arguing about who was in the right and who was in the wrong?

Perhaps time to get a dose of reality check.

I was using it as an example, I have no problem with the speed she was doing, was perfectly safe on a big straight road.

fireball
2nd December 2007, 22:24
maybe you are both idiots and need to see you are both in the wrong




where have all the sensible bikers gone?

Drew
2nd December 2007, 22:28
maybe you are both idiots and need to see you are both in the wrong




where have all the sensible bikers gone?

Surely your post is a piss take, I admit to having done a wheelie, and explained that I saw it to be safe to me and them, also I freely admit that the speeds being reached were very safe.

Yours is a mute point.

DingoZ
2nd December 2007, 22:33
Fark it ----- I'll come and stand in front of ya anytime with a camera Drew. And feel completely safe, just like the other night..:)

Drew
2nd December 2007, 22:38
Fark it ----- I'll come and stand in front of ya anytime with a camera Drew. And feel completely safe, just like the other night..:)
Onya cobber, cheers for postin that vid on youtube. I definately need to get some decent shit going before we turn the camera on next time.

Anyone got a CB 13 I can wheelie past for a good shot?

insane1
3rd December 2007, 01:10
both of you pull your heads in if you fuck up at these speeds results can and often are tragic we dont need anymore deaths .

jrandom
3rd December 2007, 01:59
Wheelies are neither big nor clever....

Speed Kills...

And boozers are losers.

:yes:

SwanTiger
3rd December 2007, 02:49
Exactly, Obviously jealous of Drew's style.
Is it the same as your marriage style?


Fark it ----- I'll come and stand in front of ya anytime
Besides taking it up the arse, what else would you do for him?

dangerous
3rd December 2007, 05:18
black Hornet - pops a half-mile, standing on pegs wheelie and rides behind and alongside us on the wrong side of the road as if to say "aren't I clever?"

Yeah I reckon thats cleaver, and I expect that Drew had things under control (not to say it cant get out of shape) so if ya dont like this behavour, dont ride with such a group.
However the opening post in this thread is a bit hot headed.


both of you pull your heads in if you fuck up at these speeds results can and often are tragic we dont need anymore deaths .
yeah true... but wouldent be a dull world if we all sat at home wraped up in cotton wool, some times life needs a gamble and odd risk involved, if for nothing else.. to remind us we are alive.

MacD
3rd December 2007, 05:32
was perfectly safe on a big straight road.

Like the big straight road in this article (http://www.stuff.co.nz/4307642a10.html)?

Threads like this are pointless as everybody always insists that their riding was safe.

idb
3rd December 2007, 05:41
And boozers are losers.

:yes:

And...Don't drink and fry!!!

idb
3rd December 2007, 05:42
.......
However the opening post in this thread is a bit hot headed.
.....

Oh hahahahaha!!!!
That is priceless coming from you D!!!!!!

pzkpfw
3rd December 2007, 06:43
Screw the riding; this is the crime:


Yours is a mute point.

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/moot_point

jimbo600
3rd December 2007, 07:44
What the hell. 1st off I'm guessing the Geraldine incident was a result of the campervan being on the wrong side of the road, something that wont be mitigated by pulling a wheelie. 2nd I think its poor form to employ the tragedy of what happened down South to have a crack at Drew pulling a wheelie. Everyone around here knows Drew, and knows his riding. I would trust him pulling wheelies with my mum on the back. One thing he does not do is put others at risk. Stunts when done properly are not dangerous.

Hoik one up for us Drew

MSTRS
3rd December 2007, 08:08
The one thing that stands out here is....who gives a fuck? We're not interested in hearing a moan from anyone who was doing something indictable themselves.
"People in glass houses...."
And for the record, I refer primarily to the poster quoted in the first post, but also to a lesser degree the thread starter.

Deano
3rd December 2007, 08:14
both of you pull your heads in if you fuck up at these speeds results can and often are tragic we dont need anymore deaths .


And from the - "What's the fastest you have been thread....." http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=56617


185 kmh on a gsr 600 a while back .

Pot, kettle.......:spanking:

Or was it on the track or closed road ?

spookytooth
3rd December 2007, 08:34
The one thing that stands out here is....who gives a fuck? We're not interested in hearing a moan from anyone who was doing something indictable themselves.
"People in glass houses...."

well said...

Skyryder
3rd December 2007, 08:34
One is doing 160 two up and other is doing wheelie on wrong side of road.

And you guys are arguing about who was in the right and who was in the wrong?

Perhaps time to get a dose of reality check.

Yep a bit like the pot calling the kettle black.


Skyyrder

Joni
3rd December 2007, 08:36
Aaaah how refreshing, KB at its full and revolting worst again.

Way too much fingers pointing, and potting and kettling….

My wish has always been for people to keep quiet and not render a half baked opinion until they know the full and entire story…. And if they do they better make sure the finger they are pointing is squeaky clean, but it never is….

People are way to fast to pass judgement and play judge, jury and executioner in this place.

Drew, I have never seen you pull a mono in front of me… I do not know where you were, who you were with and what the thought processes around safety were when you did it, so let me do a refreshing thing and say, “I presume you were fully under control and knew what you were doing from a safety point of view”

Ceebie, people died yesterday, could you maybe not have left this for another thread? Or another day… some respect would have been good!

MSTRS
3rd December 2007, 08:40
Ceebie, people died yesterday, could you maybe not have left this for another thread? Or another day… some respect would have been good!

The worst part of this is where he raised his issue...a good old-fashioned infractionating would be in order over this one.

MacD
3rd December 2007, 08:40
What the hell. 1st off I'm guessing the Geraldine incident was a result of the campervan being on the wrong side of the road, something that wont be mitigated by pulling a wheelie. 2nd I think its poor form to employ the tragedy of what happened down South to have a crack at Drew pulling a wheelie. Everyone around here knows Drew, and knows his riding. I would trust him pulling wheelies with my mum on the back. One thing he does not do is put others at risk. Stunts when done properly are not dangerous.

Hoik one up for us Drew

It wasn't aimed specifically at Drew but at everybody who claims they were "safe" on the road. The only thing for sure about road riding is that something unexpected will happen sooner or later. There are too many people in denial about the risks of riding on the road. Bad form? Maybe, but it was meant to make people uncomfortable.

Tank
3rd December 2007, 08:53
Surely your post is a piss take, I admit to having done a wheelie, and explained that I saw it to be safe to me and them, also I freely admit that the speeds being reached were very safe.

Yours is a mute point.

SOOOOOO - When a boi racer goes speeding past and just misses you - you don't moan because he would have know it was safe right?

He wouldn't do something like that unless he knew he was in control? Or is your opinion of 'safe' better than his because of some special god given gift?

Again - riding like that has no business on the open road. Its clever and fun I'm sure. I know that I cannot do them. I like watching them - but if I saw you doing them on the road at that speed I'd *555 your ass because I'd think you were being a fucken idiot - and the more of your types off the road the better.

ceebie13
3rd December 2007, 08:58
No consideration??WTF you were doin fairly excessive speeds two up ya friggin hypocrit!

I was making sure to stay well clear of yourself and fellow rider, the half mile antics you speak of had clear road for twice the distance with no other traffic AT ALL!!!

To be clear it wasn't practice, I've done enough of it to know when it's cool, and when it's dumb.

To some up... if I was testosterone driven in my antics, what's your fuckin excuse for doin 160ks with a pillion when I did the first wheelie and couldn't get past you? You double standard types give me the shits!!!

Drew, the very title of your thread suggests you knew that you were out to impress. Why else would anyone pull that kind of stunt alongside two other riders (regardless of their speed) when, as you say, there was bugger all else on the road? Trouble is...my immediate reaction when I saw you in my mirrors was "what if...?" and it was that thought that made me question the
appropriateness of your undoubted riding skills at that time and place.
Yep, hands up I was moving pretty quick - even with Lyn on the back - and like you I felt in total control reading the conditions as were you, but supposing...just supposing I had needed to take avoiding action (including emergency braking) for whatever reason...farm vehicle pulling out...dog...sheep...etc. Quite simply, it doesn't bear thinking about does it? At least I had all rubber on the ground. I value Lyn's life and then my own, If I kill or injure her or myself then that is my call. What i don't value is being snuffed out by the actions of others.

Mate, I'm sure your mastery of motorcycle trickery is admirable, but I'd suggest you do it in a private, safe environment, with a more appreciative audience.

flame
3rd December 2007, 09:05
Drew, Tony, Skels and I had a fantastic ride yesterday, the weather was magic, so were the roads. There were no dangerous antics, just the pure pleasure of enjoying the freedom of biking.
I was sorry to hear of our fellow bikers that left us yesterday, it makes a lump in your throat and my thoughts go out to their loved ones.

Ceebie, you probably dont appreciate the skill level of Drews riding, which is understandable as you don't know him. But he would never endanger another rider, and the mono he pulled past you was one of his most 'simple' monouvours. Honestly, if it should happen again, just sit back and enjoy, and if you ask nicely he'll probably even give you some of his more entertaining shows to watch:niceone:

MSTRS
3rd December 2007, 09:08
.... If I kill or injure her ...then that is my call. ...

I'm sorry???

Tank
3rd December 2007, 09:09
Ceebie, you probably dont appreciate the skill level of Drews riding, which is understandable as you don't know him. But he would never endanger another rider, and the mono he pulled past you was one of his most 'simple' monouvours. Honestly, if it should happen again, just sit back and enjoy, and if you ask nicely he'll probably even give you some of his more entertaining shows to watch:niceone:

Me thinks you should read the post above yours - Whilst be might be most fantastic rider in YOUR fanboi world - others dont like it coming up behind them on the open road.

Why should we have to put up with it - little less sit back and enjoy someone riding like a muppet on the open road.

Written by a new rider with a "L" plate - who has had to put up with too many people like this already in my short time of riding!

jrandom
3rd December 2007, 09:12
Mate, I'm sure your mastery of motorcycle trickery is admirable, but I'd suggest you do it in a private, safe environment, with a more appreciative audience.

I'm sure plenty of car drivers feel the same way about people who get on motorcycles in the first place, wheelies or no wheelies, but generally they aren't cheeky enough to try and tell us that we shouldn't be on the road.

I guess you won't be riding with Drew again. That's fine, I doubt he'll cry himself to sleep over it.

If you have a problem with someone's riding, take it up with them in person.

flame
3rd December 2007, 09:13
Me thinks you should read the post above yours - Whilst be might be most fantastic rider in YOUR fanboi world - others dont like it coming up behind them on the open road.

Why should we have to put up with it - little less sit back and enjoy someone riding like a muppet on the open road.

Written by a new rider with a "L" plate - who has had to put up with too many people like this already in my short time of riding!


we'll just wait and see what your riding like after 15 years experience on the road then shall we mr L plate??? Im quite sure you wont be quite so precious....and if your real lucky you might even be someones 'fanboi' one day.....but I doubt it :)

skelstar
3rd December 2007, 09:13
Got a bit of an axe to grind there Tank?

ceebie13
3rd December 2007, 09:16
I'm sorry???

...you know what I meant.

Maybe poor use of English, but I was meaning that I'd have no one else to blame but myself for my own actions. Sadly too many lives are lost because we don't tell ourselves to think ahead.

BTW. Editing a quote from its original form to adjust its meaning is a cheap trick ;)

Tank
3rd December 2007, 09:20
we'll just wait and see what your riding like after 15 years experience on the road then shall we mr L plate??? Im quite sure you wont be quite so precious....and if your real lucky you might even be someones 'fanboi' one day.....but I doubt it :)

So - what you are saying is that after 15 years exp - I will know how the newb rider feels when someone comes screaming up behind him popping a wheelie?

Thats good - see because on the times it happen to be - Ill be honest and say that the other riders scared the shit out of me - but as an experienced rider you obv don't mind doing that to others.

Pfft.

Ixion
3rd December 2007, 09:21
..
Again - riding like that has no business on the open road. Its clever and fun I'm sure. I know that I cannot do them. I like watching them - but if I saw you doing them on the road at that speed I'd *555 your ass because I'd think you were being a fucken idiot - and the more of your types off the road the better.

A biker doesn't snitch. Above all, on other bikers.

Personally, I regard wheelies on the road as the sign of a wanker - sort of the motorcycle equivalent of beating y' meat in public whilst shouting "Isn't it big!".

But, to each his own, and if that's what rocks y'boat and y'ain't endangering me, go for it.

But...... Article 3 of the Biker Code is quite clear about snitching



Don't snitch. If you see a wrong, fight it yourself, if you are about anything. You'll take care of problems yourself and never feel the need to snitch someone off. Snitches are the lowest life forms on earth, right down there with bike thieves.

Tank
3rd December 2007, 09:25
Got a bit of an axe to grind there Tank?

he he Yup!

Hopefully I made it clear in my last post - but in short whilst the rider with the "skillz" and his club of fanbois think its all safe and OK. Some of us on the road (like me - being a newb) actually get scared when its done to us (They obv dont think Im a learner because I ride a larger bike - assuming that they would not do it do a gn250 rider etc).

Like a lot of newbs Im out there doing my hours, learning lines, etc etc and the "antics" that some other riders pull on us pull are not welcome by all.

Shit - if you want to do it - do it where there are NO other cars / bikers - that way they are not imposing their behaviour on others.

Str8 Jacket
3rd December 2007, 09:26
Some of us on the road (like me - being a newb) actually get scared when its done to us (They obv dont think Im a learner because I ride a larger bike - assuming that they would not do it do a gn250 rider etc).



Just to clarify.... You are a learner on a "large" bike?.....

Tank
3rd December 2007, 09:31
A biker doesn't snitch. Above all, on other bikers.


ahh - the bikler brotherhood 'thing' again.

Would I snitch on people who I ride with and are friends - hell no (but then they wouldn't ride like that).

Would I snitch on someone who was imposing their riding on me, making me feel unsafe and riding in a manner that I though was going to get one of us killed - hell yes.

Morons can ride bikes as well - my respect has to be earned, not given as a right becuase they can afford a bike.

Tank
3rd December 2007, 09:32
Just to clarify.... You are a learner on a "large" bike?.....

"larger" - not technically large by todays standards.

Yes I ride a 800cc, yes, I have full dispensation for it.

jimbo600
3rd December 2007, 09:32
Jeez there's some bleating on ere. If the ANZACS were alive they'd fuckin' spew.

uuuh look at you pulling a wheelie bleat fuckin bleat.

Cmon now team, take off your skirt, grow a mustache, and harden the fuck up.

ceebie13
3rd December 2007, 09:37
Onya cobber, cheers for postin that vid on youtube. I definately need to get some decent shit going before we turn the camera on next time.

Anyone got a CB13 I can wheelie past for a good shot?

Well seeing as how mine is partly the subject of this thread I'll more than happily park it at the scene for that all important two-shot. :cool:

crashe
3rd December 2007, 09:42
Drew Drew Drew Drew, how could you do such a thing out there on the roads..... especially in front of the PC brigade............ I am so shocked at you young fella to do that...... I mean to say...... tut tut tut...... :bleh: :msn-wink:

Now the next time you are up here in Auckland........ I want to see you do that against the 'king of wheelie's and no that ain't your brother either........

Well that would be fun as well........ the two of you against MR king of wheelie's (Death_inc)


Ain't it funny that one rider bitches and moans about another when they themselves are risking the life of their pillion going at great speeds..... and breaking the law.


When a person is so damned perfect and never broken the law ever in their life......... then let them speak up.
I have yet to come across such a person.



If you have a problem with a rider, then talk to them in private message or in person....

Str8 Jacket
3rd December 2007, 09:43
"larger" - not technically large by todays standards.

Yes I ride a 800cc, yes, I have full dispensation for it.

Some would argue that a noob on an 800cc motorbike would make them feel unsafe when riding with that noob to, no kind of dispensation is going to give you any more ability than any other noob....
Its real easy to criticise others, but as a noob believe me the only thing you should worry about is yourself. Dont go wasting your time stressing about others, that is solely there job!

Katman
3rd December 2007, 09:47
And I never did find out who the fucking retard was that did the stand up wheelie at warp speed past the entrance to the Cold Kiwi this year just as I was about to turn in.

Around midday on the Saturday. If you're reading this, you probably don't know just how close you were to sending both me and yourself into oblivion.

DMNTD
3rd December 2007, 09:57
Would I snitch on someone who was imposing their riding on me, making me feel unsafe and riding in a manner that I though was going to get one of us killed - hell yes.

Mate...if you have issues with someone's riding,take it up with them in person,don't nark. Far more effective especially if you are a big black bugger as you bike description leads me to believe.

Tank
3rd December 2007, 10:03
Some would argue that a noob on an 800cc motorbike would make them feel unsafe when riding with that noob to, no kind of dispensation is going to give you any more ability than any other noob....
Its real easy to criticise others, but as a noob believe me the only thing you should worry about is yourself. Dont go wasting your time stressing about others, that is solely there job!


I hear ya (and Ill make this my last post in this thread - so I dont sound like I'm bleating any more than I have)

re - the 800 - you raise a very fair point. Its a cruiser - not a sports bike so Im not exactly flying, but your point is valid. To this end I only ride with people I know and if anyone said that they didnt want to ride with a newb on a bike like that I could understand it.

There have been a number of rides where I could have gone on and chose not to because I also appreciate that just because I have the bike - I know I dont have the skills for group riding etc and I dont want to be the guy who causes the accident.

What I was trying to say (and obv was putting it badly) is that when you are on the road pulling wheelies etc etc and doing it around other riders is try to respect them as well - some dont appreciate it (actually thats what started this whole thread). Now thats a fair comment right?

If your doing it in your own group and nobody else is around - then OK - you all accept the risk / impacts if anything goes wrong - thats your choice, and there are no nana's like me around to bitch and moan about it.

As a newb it kinda hard NOT to worry about it when you see that in your wing mirrors.

Anyway - Ive said my bit - we can either agree or not - it dosnt really matter - this is the interweb and its doing to change anything.

Peace out !

NZsarge
3rd December 2007, 10:06
A biker doesn't snitch. Above all, on other bikers.


But...... Article 3 of the Biker Code is quite clear about snitching

Putting aside what happened and who is right or wrong, I don't owe anything to anyone just because they ride a motorcycle.

ceebie13
3rd December 2007, 10:07
Ceebie, people died yesterday, could you maybe not have left this for another thread? Or another day… some respect would have been good!

I apologised at the time and I apologise again for my initial post being in the "wrong" thread. The tradegies of what happened in Geraldine were reflected in my head when I thought of the danger I was unwittingly caught up in whilst out in the Wairarapa. Perhaps normally I would'nt have mentioned it, but the two events lit a fuse if you like. Drew did right by bringing it over to R&R even if he did spit his dummy and call me a hypocrite.

The issue being discussed is a valid one, even if it has been raised before.
KB is a public forum. We are talking about riding style and what is considered safe and/or appropriate on public roads.

I find it interesting to see what "camp" people sit in regarding road craft and consideration for other road users (including bikers) from what they say on here. I'd wage none of us are squeeky clean, but it does become more and more apparent that some peoples' priorities are not always in the right place and it will take many many more tragedies before sense is even started to be seen.

Is it any wonder that bikes and bikers are seen as dangerous.

None of us want a nanny state. We all enjoy our motorcycling whether it's road riding, racing, touring, stunting or even bloody commuting but I feel there is a time and place for everything.

Yep! maybe finger-pointing and snitching are indeed against biker camaraderie, but I dont believe there is a valid point in insisting that if popping wheelies on a public road close to or alongside other riders is done by a skilled expert with ultimate control then that makes it OK.

cowpoos
3rd December 2007, 10:07
you were being a fucken idiot -.

Its funny how people who can do things others cant...and can't comprehend...or even know what the in's and outs are..because they havn't been there or done that...class others as idiots...
I always giggle when sitting in someones car and there are hooning along a local road they think they know well...having a play through the corners...and then occasionally someone willpass them and hoon off faster,smoother than them...almost always..you hear...'fucking idiot'

they arn't a idiot!!!! you have no idea how much skill and intelligence it takes to drive/ride fast...the faster you go,the faster your brain has to work...the better your hand eye co-ordination has to be...let alone do wheelies...acusing these people of being idiots or crazy is just ignorance more so that anything... especially as your a new rider...these stunts or what ever you may call them..may look dangerous to you...and others that can not do them...but realistically...you really can not make that judgment...I'm not try to make a cunt of you or anything...or trying to make you like drew or respect his abilities...but just maybe take a step back...and try to realise that making a call on the safety of this senario or judgement on it...you really don't know???

And before you get stuck into me...because its well know I'm no saint on a motorbike...in my experience as I believe I'm a relitivly experienced rider...its not usually fast riders acting the goat that fall off on the road...its the average to low skilled riders that seem to park there bikes in ditch's etc..and when they're riding...regularly seeing there upper bodys/heads hanging over the middle white line around corners...that sort of thing gives me the shits!! and I see it far to much for my liking!!



Some of us on the road (like me - being a newb) actually get scared when its done to us (They obv dont think Im a learner because I ride a larger bike - assuming that they would not do it do a gn250 rider etc).

Like a lot of newbs Im out there doing my hours, learning lines, etc etc and the "antics" that some other riders pull on us pull are not welcome by all.

Shit - if you want to do it - do it where there are NO other cars / bikers - that way they are not imposing their behaviour on others.

Drew .et al...90% of the time only ride with extremly experienced riders...in a group that trust each other explicitly!! I used to regularly ride with this group while I lived down there...really good buch to have a few beers with...and dispite your opinions...they'll still have a yarn and a ber with you anytime your down that way...




Morons can ride bikes as well - . again...its a perception that you and others don't have...did anyone mention that Drew won the Wairarapa hill climb last year on a stock road bike against worked race bikes??

A moron wouldn't have that skill level surely??

jrandom
3rd December 2007, 10:22
regularly seeing there upper bodys/heads hanging over the middle white line around corners...that sort of thing gives me the shits!!

57KDDKbfhmI

cowpoos
3rd December 2007, 10:50
Thanks bro....and thats right people!! everytime your body goes over the centre line on your bike...head and or whole upper body on a corner...god kills a puppie!! So ride on your own dam side of the fricken road!!

Grahameeboy
3rd December 2007, 10:52
Mate...if you have issues with someone's riding,take it up with them in person,don't nark. Far more effective especially if you are a big black bugger as you bike description leads me to believe.

Hey some of us little folk are too scared ya know

Str8 Jacket
3rd December 2007, 10:54
Hey some of us little folk are too scared ya know

Ha! I dont believe it.... If ya got something to say then say it. Its really all in HOW you say it!

ceebie13
3rd December 2007, 10:55
Ain't it funny that one rider bitches and moans about another when they themselves are risking the life of their pillion going at great speeds..... and breaking the law.

Invalid point in my view, Crashe... Lyn and I enjoy riding fast as rider and pillion. Drew enjoys pulling his stunts. All fair enough I'd say. However...I don't endanger or worry others by riding fast in close proximity and perhaps causing a distraction.



If you have a problem with a rider, then talk to them in private message or in person....

We talk openly about idiot cagers (individual or in general) on here. We even publicise regos. So why hush up our thoughts on bikers. If I endanger anyone, then I'll take the rap. Openly and transparently... For all to see. Then maybe I'll think twice about doing it again.

Grahameeboy
3rd December 2007, 10:58
Ha! I dont believe it.... If ya got something to say then say it. Its really all in HOW you say it!

Yeah but I am a small chap in his 40's and bikers are suppose to he 'ard?

Grahameeboy
3rd December 2007, 11:01
Bro...you're at least as fat as I am!

But aren't you taller??

DMNTD
3rd December 2007, 11:02
But aren't you taller??

Dunno but definitely longer with greater girth

Grahameeboy
3rd December 2007, 11:04
Dunno but definitely longer with greater girth

You need to stop eating those Burgers bro...............

jrandom
3rd December 2007, 11:14
But aren't you taller??

Actually, no, I'd say you have an inch or so on Chris... having had you both, etc.

;)

Tank
3rd December 2007, 11:30
ignore sorry posting error

Tank
3rd December 2007, 11:31
Actually, no, I'd say you have an inch or so on Chris... having had you both, etc.

;)


Ladies and Gentlemen - we have found the gutter

Str8 Jacket
3rd December 2007, 11:31
If Drew ever dies in a motorcycle accident I am going to bring this thread up and use it to shit stir in the most tasteless manner possible.

Same goes for Ceebie.

FFS, I mean really?! This post makes you look like a total f*ckwit! Are you a f*cken angel?

Taz
3rd December 2007, 11:39
Another reason why the wider motorcycling community think KBers are dicks.

SwanTiger
3rd December 2007, 11:40
FFS, I mean really?! This post makes you look like a total f*ckwit! Are you a f*cken angel?

You're the only angel around here sweet pea! :innocent:

Joni
3rd December 2007, 11:43
If Drew ever dies in a motorcycle accident I am going to bring this thread up and use it to shit stir in the most tasteless manner possible.

Same goes for Ceebie.Hmm... one of your more "unfortunate" posts.... and there have been a few!

You usually post for the shock factor and getting the reaction is the goal... congrats, on that basis you have done well!

:Oi:

DingoZ
3rd December 2007, 11:45
Besides taking it up the arse, what else would you do for him?

Wouldn't ever go that far, bud.....:)

But I would go so far as to call him a friend. Also someone who I could learn a lot about RIDING off. (Not necessarily stunting)...

And being a newbie rider and all, I sure do appreciate it when riders who have exerience (Like Drew and others, whoever that might be ) pass it on to newbie riders like myself.

My post was hoping to put MY view across that I have faith in Drew's control, and if was riding in the same group as him, and he pulled a wheelie beside or behind me. I might have a momentary clench, but then I think a lot worse could be coming around the next corner....

But everyone to their own I suppose.

... On a different note, anyone got a copy of this Bikers Code by chance..?

ceebie13
3rd December 2007, 11:46
What a f..king joke!!!! First you have a winge in an inapropriate thread and then as drew has pointed out you were'nt exactly obeying the posted speed limit while two up...... How do i know this you say? cause i went passed you just before the aledged mono. You own a sports bike and ride at those speeds two up then bitch an moan when someone goes by HTFU!!!!!:crybaby:

Welcome to KB, Tony & Carolyn

Hmmm...

Firstly, I'm a pom...apparently it's in my nature to whinge.
Secondly, I've explained (and apologised) for inappropriate thread posting.
Thirdly, umm...I do not own a sportsbike.
Fourthly, I was aware of your overtaking manoeuvre.

Look, I've explained the reasoning behind my views and I'll respect the views of all others, but surely you have something more constructive to say than harden the fuck up! Meanwhile, I'll remain quietly heartened by those who see my side of the issue, and say thanks to the others who chose not to air their views publicly but preferred to bling or PM their support :-)

Like I said before, it's threads like these that help to define which camp we all sit in. No bad thing in my view.

QED
(Quite Enough Done!)

Str8 Jacket
3rd December 2007, 11:48
Like I said before, it's threads like these that help to define which camp we all sit in. No bad thing in my view.

What if I wanted to sit in my own camp but still get on with others from lots of other camps?

NOMIS
3rd December 2007, 11:50
ok i saw a guy on a brand spanking new yamaha r1 racing a rs4 audi on the m.way on 1 wheel for at least 1-1.5 km i thought it was pretty fuking cool and that was atleast up 2 180kmph i couldnt keep up in my 1600cc mirage

Katman
3rd December 2007, 11:51
Another reason why the wider motorcycling community think KBers are dicks.

Man, I wish I could agree with you but the KBers have stolen my privileges so this post will probably never see the light of day.:msn-wink:

jrandom
3rd December 2007, 11:51
ok i saw a guy on a brand spanking new yamaha r1 racing a rs4 audi on the m.way on 1 wheel for at least 1-1.5 km

If the RS4 could still see the R1 after a kilometre, then the rider wasn't racing, he was playing.

jrandom
3rd December 2007, 11:52
What if I wanted to sit in my own camp but still get on with others from lots of other camps?

What if I just want to be camp?

:girlfight:

Joni
3rd December 2007, 11:55
What if I just want to be camp?Then your wish was granted a long long time ago! ;)

Str8 Jacket
3rd December 2007, 11:55
What if I just want to be camp?

:girlfight:

Change your name to SwanJRandom.....

DingoZ
3rd December 2007, 11:56
This one time in Band Camp

:laugh:

SwanTiger
3rd December 2007, 11:57
Wouldn't ever go that far, bud.....:)

Sure.

Have a look at this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43Y0dReCT1M), a really nice exhuast for the GT250 model engine. Most of the other exhuasts sound 'okay' down low and then develop an annoying ear ringing pitch up high, fucking annoying at cruising speeds. This Micron seems to be a 'bit more loose' and sounds better right through.

Ixion
3rd December 2007, 12:01
..
... On a different note, anyone got a copy of this Bikers Code by chance..?

Just google "Biker Code". It's posted in lots of palces. Summary is



1. Don't take shit from anyone.Be kind to women, children and animals, but don't take any bullshit. This is an essential part of being a biker. It has to do with respect and honor.
2. Never lie, cheat or steal
3. Don't snitch
4. Don't snivel.
5. Never say die and never give up
6. Help others. When a brother or sister is broken down by the side of the road, always stop and help them. Courtesy costs you nothing and gives you everything.
7. Stick to your guns. Do what you say you'll do, be there when you say you will. This is called integrity.
8. Life is not a drill. Live life now, make the most of each moment.

MSTRS
3rd December 2007, 12:03
That's a code for all, not just bikers

Finn
3rd December 2007, 12:04
If you wanted to report bad driving in NZ, it would be a full time job and a pointless one at that. What Drew was doing wasn't dangerous at all. What is dangerous are my wheelies. Absolutely no control or finesse what so ever. Heck, I should probably turn myself in before I kill someone.

jrandom
3rd December 2007, 12:09
What is dangerous are my wheelies. Absolutely no control or finesse what so ever. Heck, I should probably turn myself in before I kill someone.

... or crack any MV Agusta F4 radiators with unsupported stock mounting points!

:sweatdrop

DingoZ
3rd December 2007, 12:10
Sure.

Have a look at this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43Y0dReCT1M), a really nice exhuast for the GT250 model engine. Most of the other exhuasts sound 'okay' down low and then develop an annoying ear ringing pitch up high, fucking annoying at cruising speeds. This Micron seems to be a 'bit more loose' and sounds better right through.

Nice sounds, may have to keep this in mind..... You know of any source for these in NZ - I noticed the bike had NSW plates on it

Joni
3rd December 2007, 12:12
If you wanted to report bad driving in NZ, it would be a full time job and a pointless one at that. What Drew was doing wasn't dangerous at all. What is dangerous are my wheelies. Absolutely no control or finesse what so ever. Heck, I should probably turn myself in before I kill someone.Oh my God... here I go agreeing with you again! :shit: Not about handing yourself in...

But about Drews wheelies not being Dangerous, part of being a responsible rider is knowing what your capabilities are and also where your limits lie before you cross that “line”… then applying your mind to making a decision on if something should/could be done safely…

Drew made a call about his wheelies, as he does, he is a highly competent and skilled rider… Ceebie you made the same call by speeding….

In my mind its the same decision.

Finn
3rd December 2007, 12:13
... or crack any MV Agusta F4 radiators with unsupported stock mounting points!

:sweatdrop

I should get the death penalty for that.

That might have been the part I heard fall off after the wheelie. I was going to turn around but thought fuck it, it ain't my bike...

SwanTiger
3rd December 2007, 12:14
Nice sounds, may have to keep this in mind..... You know of any source for these in NZ - I noticed the bike had NSW plates on it
Any bike store should be able to source one for you.

Failing that, jump on http://www.korider.com/, there is a list of distributors from Korea and Australia.

NZsarge
3rd December 2007, 12:14
If the RS4 could still see the R1 after a kilometre, then the rider wasn't racing, he was playing.

He he, that might be true, as long as the highway is straight.:whistle::shifty:

ceebie13
3rd December 2007, 12:35
Drew made a call about his wheelies, as he does, he is a highly competent and skilled rider… Ceebie you made the same call by speeding….

In my mind its the same decision.

Rubbish, Joni! Highly competant and skilled he maybe, but Drew made a call to join forces and pop his wheelies in close proximity to two other bikes (regardless of their speed) and in so doing he could have instigated or simply been part of a dangerous situation if I had had to take evasive action for whatever reason.

Yes, I was effectively speeding but I didn't make the call to show off my speeding prowess actually amongst or near other bikers.

White trash
3rd December 2007, 12:44
Fuck I saw a good near miss yesterday too. Both forum members as well.

This little Nepalese prick on an R6 hits the front picks REAL hard on a short straight doing a rolling stoppie while the pommy homo on the Fireblade is hard up it practicing wheelies behind. How the hell he got around the stationary Yamahahahaha is beyond me but was a lovely display of high speed counter steering.

Joni
3rd December 2007, 12:44
Rubbish, Joni! Highly competant and skilled he maybe, but Drew made a call to join forces and pop his wheelies in close proximity to two other bikes (regardless of their speed) and in so doing he could have instigated or simply been part of a dangerous situation if I had had to take evasive action for whatever reason.

Yes, I was effectively speeding but I didn't make the call to show off my speeding prowess actually amongst or near other bikers.As i said "In my Mind".... however in your mind you see it differently...

White trash
3rd December 2007, 12:48
I'd also like to say, that Drew, I value your wheelie skill above my own. Your are getting your shit well and truly sorted, no doubt about it. HOWEVER, if another biker says they aren't comfortable with you doin them near them and gives you an verbal bashing, ya gotta take it on the chin bro. No point trying to defend yourself.

Bigger man woulda gone, "Point taken, I wont ride like that around you or even with you again. Sorry to put the shits up ya"

For the record, wheelies are neither big nor clever and boozers are loosers.

White trash
3rd December 2007, 12:49
If you wanted to report bad driving in NZ, it would be a full time job and a pointless one at that. What Drew was doing wasn't dangerous at all. What is dangerous are my wheelies. Absolutely no control or finesse what so ever. Heck, I should probably turn myself in before I kill someone.
You and boomer must get on like a house on fire then.

Finn
3rd December 2007, 12:51
You and boomer must get on like a house on fire then.

We do. He taught me how to wheelie.

NOMIS
3rd December 2007, 12:58
If the RS4 could still see the R1 after a kilometre, then the rider wasn't racing, he was playing.

yes i relise that but on 1 wheel? at that sorta speed was just stating that it was pretty impressive to see in person do you not agree and yes i realise how fasr a r1 is, an a4 audi is pretty fast considering its a family station wagon. will definatly smoke the sti's and evos out there

jrandom
3rd December 2007, 13:12
yes i relise that but on 1 wheel? at that sorta speed was just stating that it was pretty impressive to see in person do you not agree and yes i realise how fasr a r1 is, an a4 audi is pretty fast considering its a family station wagon. will definatly smoke the sti's and evos out there

Wasn't arguing, and yup, gotta love watching a litrebike being well handled up on the back wheel. I'll get there one day!

RS4s are good keen wagons, I'd 'ave one.

The Pastor
3rd December 2007, 14:01
No consideration??WTF you were doin fairly excessive speeds two up ya friggin hypocrit!

I was making sure to stay well clear of yourself and fellow rider, the half mile antics you speak of had clear road for twice the distance with no other traffic AT ALL!!!

To be clear it wasn't practice, I've done enough of it to know when it's cool, and when it's dumb.

To some up... if I was testosterone driven in my antics, what's your fuckin excuse for doin 160ks with a pillion when I did the first wheelie and couldn't get past you? You double standard types give me the shits!!!
your a danger to everyone, quick givee me ur motorbike, you obviously cant ride for shit. :D

ManDownUnder
3rd December 2007, 14:36
It seems pretty bloody obvious to me there's a time and place for this stuff...

Between this thread and the now famous sidewinder/carver thread it seems what it is most impressive to some has a time and place - who'd have thought.

I can't wheelie... would love to be able to do so but don't have the inclination to really give it a good nudge - and pay for the carnage I'll cause along the way... but all that aside...

Sounds like it was a good show - in the wrong place... to the wrong audience. Take your medicine, accept it was the wrong place and move on. I know a couple of pretty crude, but insanely funny jokes... drop them in the wrong place though and I'd be apologising.

Same for this. Trashy summed it up best I think... good wheelie, bad reaction - say sorry and move on. Done deal.

Finn
3rd December 2007, 14:43
Apologising is a sign of weakness. Don't do it Drew.

jimbo600
3rd December 2007, 14:51
Same for this. Trashy summed it up best I think... good wheelie, bad reaction - say sorry and move on. Done deal.

Drew, sorry? He's the sorriest thing I've seen all year

PuppetMaster
3rd December 2007, 15:24
Gawd, is this thread still going, Someone change the subject......

Anyone get photos of the large breasted streaker at the Beckham game ?

White trash
3rd December 2007, 15:47
Gawd, is this thread still going, Someone change the subject......

Anyone get photos of the large breasted streaker at the Beckham game ?
Can we just leave it up till Drew sees my post? Aint nothing more spectacular than pissing off your own flesh and blood :D

boomer
3rd December 2007, 16:01
You and boomer must get on like a house on fire then.


coooooont

.

DEATH_INC.
3rd December 2007, 16:02
Just to get my two cents in.....I'd trust Drew more on one wheel than half of KB on two.....:blink:

jrandom
3rd December 2007, 16:06
half of KB on two...

Jesus, dude, half of KB on two wheels, that'd be some seriously overloaded suspension...

scumdog
3rd December 2007, 16:13
Stunts when done properly are not dangerous.

Mwahahah - I never hear the guys say THAT at all the prangs from 'stunts-gone-wrong' I've been to....I guess we ALL think OUR stunt was done 'properly' and not dangerous:bleh:

White trash
3rd December 2007, 16:13
coooooont

.
That's abuse cunt. I'm reporting it.

White trash
3rd December 2007, 16:16
Mwahahah - I never hear the guys say THAT at all the prangs from 'stunts-gone-wrong' I've been to....I guess we ALL think OUR stunt was done 'properly' and not dangerous:bleh:
Hey, riding a motorbike is dangerous full stop.

Let's look at it in perspective though. I can flip a bike pulling a nice long, eighty kay an hour mono get grazed up a little and laugh about it later in the pub. Or, I can lose it over the hill at Puke', colliding with a wall six feet off the track and confine myself to a wheelchair for life.

So what's more dangerous?

White trash
3rd December 2007, 16:21
Just to get my two cents in.....I'd trust Drew more on one wheel than half of KB on two.....:blink:
Are you mental?! Have you seen his one sequence in "Spontaneous Destruction"? Looks like he's trying to kill the cameraman!!!!

crazefox
3rd December 2007, 16:24
Good on ya drew wish i was there too see it.Nothing wrong with passing someone 1 wheel style:jerry::jerry::Playnice:

jimbo600
3rd December 2007, 16:25
Mwahahah - I never hear the guys say THAT at all the prangs from 'stunts-gone-wrong' I've been to....I guess we ALL think OUR stunt was done 'properly' and not dangerous:bleh:

stunts done properly don't end up with crashed bikes mate. The incidents you refer to are stunts not done properly.

scumdog
3rd December 2007, 16:33
stunts done properly don't end up with crashed bikes mate. The incidents you refer to are stunts not done properly.

Oh.
SO the guys that crashed got on their steeds and said/thought "I ain't goin' to do this stunt properly" before taking off and binning?

Riiiigghht!!

SwanTiger
3rd December 2007, 16:33
stunts done properly don't end up with crashed bikes mate. The incidents you refer to are stunts not done properly.

Either way, when they fuck it up, grown men end up screaming and moaning in pain like little bitches.

Ixion
3rd December 2007, 16:36
Well, maybe, but by the same logic one could say that riding home totally pissed from the pub doesn't end up with crashed bikes. The ridnings home that do weren't done properly.

FTR, I don't have any objection to people pulling wheelies, or cruising at 160. Or pretty much anything else for that matter, so long as they don't involve me.

White trash
3rd December 2007, 16:37
Either way, when they fuck it up, grown men end up screaming and moaning in pain like little bitches.
Bullshit. Dunno how many "Stunts gone wrong" incidents you've actually witnessed but every single one I've attended has had exactly the same opening statement from the guy lying on the deck.

"Ohhhhhhh fuck. Did ya get on camera?"

skelstar
3rd December 2007, 16:42
Good grief, its another 'pin the opinion on the thread' ...erm...thread.

Once again 90% or the people here have never met either of the combatants, 80% have never ridden on the road in question, 60% haven't reached puberty... yet they're willing to pass judgement on either rider.

Hey... lets all go over to the other thread where we all know what happened at that accident near Murchison! Wooo!!!

White trash
3rd December 2007, 16:46
Good grief, its another 'pin the opinion on the thread' ...erm...thread.

Once again 90% or the people here have never met either of the combatants, 80% have never ridden on the road in question, 60% haven't reached puberty... yet they're willing to pass judgement on either rider.

Hey... lets all go over to the other thread where we all know what happened at that accident near Murchison! Wooo!!!
Shut up cock. I know everything.

crazefox
3rd December 2007, 16:48
YEAH take that:jerry::jerry:

jimbo600
3rd December 2007, 16:48
Oh.
SO the guys that crashed got on their steeds and said/thought "I ain't goin' to do this stunt properly" before taking off and binning?

Riiiigghht!!


Either way, when they fuck it up, grown men end up screaming and moaning in pain like little bitches.

Well yeah your both quite right. But the fact remains, stunts when done properly are safe. Its when they go pear shaped they're unsafe.

And during my tenure of bike riding I have been guilty of both your statements. In fact I moan like a little bitch every time someone beats me up the hill.

DEATH_INC.
3rd December 2007, 16:51
Are you mental?! Have you seen his one sequence in "Spontaneous Destruction"? Looks like he's trying to kill the cameraman!!!!
Mmmmm I'm gonna watch it tonight......
The point I'm tryna make is that just because you're doing a wheelie (or speeding) doesn't automatically make you more dangerous than the guy putting along on two at 80kmh....

fireliv
3rd December 2007, 17:04
THe way I see it is if you dont like his riding, dont ride with him again. There are plenty of others to ride with.

If drew is as good as he says he is then I guess we wont be posting RIPs about him anytime soon then.

There is more to life out there than bitching it up in here, sort it in person

SwanTiger
3rd December 2007, 17:06
Bullshit. Dunno how many "Stunts gone wrong" incidents you've actually witnessed but every single one I've attended has had exactly the same opening statement from the guy lying on the deck.

"Ohhhhhhh fuck. Did ya get on camera?"

They've learnt in stunt school how to hide their pain, it's a bit like boxing, you learn how to hide when you're tired or hurting.

:niceone:

Sensei
3rd December 2007, 17:17
Showing off has cost afew on here their lives & hurt alot of their friends lives as well . As Ali G says " Keep it real ! "

jrandom
3rd December 2007, 17:17
Exactly, Obviously jealous of Drew's style.

hi super!
hope you are well,
weasil send his best regards

ceebie13
3rd December 2007, 18:19
The way I see it is if you dont like his riding, dont ride with him again. There are plenty of others to ride with.

OK. This sentiment has been voiced a couple of times now, so can I just point this out in plain English once and for all.

I wasn't riding with Drew.

ajturbo
3rd December 2007, 18:34
Everyone around here knows Drew, and knows his riding.

Drew???

Drew???

who the fuck is Drew?:zzzz::whistle:

limbimtimwim
3rd December 2007, 18:52
Once upon a time I was riding down those roads with a pillion.

Some guy came past me on one wheel.

I thought it was great, I might have even clapped. It was hard to clap with a pillion on that bike though.

My point is, someone doing that kind of stuff does not know if it is going to upset people or not.

My solution? I dunno. I think as punishment Drew should teach Ceebie to wheelie and Ceebie should make Drew watch some English comedy.

Sparky Bills
3rd December 2007, 19:15
Who are you guys kidding....
Honda's cant wheelie!:cool:
Its all lyes I tells ya!

dangerous
3rd December 2007, 19:27
Ok look... some times these silly stunts of ours does go tits up, look at me yesterday... I looped a bike and today Im bloody well paying for it, shit the old back is hurting not to mention the arm... but I tell ya what i was in full control, right up to when I got on a 7yr olds bike. :clap:

Pic is from this years Bucket Club BBQ

Tony & Carolyn
3rd December 2007, 19:51
Me thinks you should read the post above yours - Whilst be might be most fantastic rider in YOUR fanboi world - others dont like it coming up behind them on the open road.

Why should we have to put up with it - little less sit back and enjoy someone riding like a muppet on the open road.

Written by a new rider with a "L" plate - who has had to put up with too many people like this already in my short time of riding!

Here's an idea pal...... stop your f..king whinging!!!! get out an learn to ride instead of sitting on your arse typing:Pokey:

Tank
3rd December 2007, 19:59
Here's an idea pal...... stop your f..king whinging!!!! get out an learn to ride instead of sitting on your arse typing:Pokey:

oooh witty comeback :girlfight: ever considered a job in standup?

Drew
3rd December 2007, 20:03
Ok, after a long day at work I have returned to find an epic thread, not really expected but shit happens.

I will conceed happily that I didn't know wether my antics would be well recieved, but given previous experience the crowd goes wild.

I started this thread to point out that I felt I gave more than enough room, and could see more of what was going on, (since I was standing up on the pegs that were an extra two feet off the ground).

I maintain it was as safe as any pass I've ever made, but now know not to do it past you again, (but probably will cos I dont like to back down).

To anyone else who's read this thread that I might one day do something similar past, I pre-emptively appologise.:done:

TonyB
3rd December 2007, 20:28
Didn't see the incident so can't comment on it.

But I will ask some questions which are aimed at anyone who is totaly in control and happy to pull stunts on a group ride.
Jared Love looped his 996 pulling a wheelie last year. Are you a better rider than him?
The worlds best stunters still occasionally make mistakes and crash. Are you better than them?
Loris Caporossi nearly looped his Ducati MotoGP bike a couple of seasons back doing a wheelie while celebrating. Are you a better rider than him?
Who wants to be the first KBer to fuck up and take out his mates?

Tony & Carolyn
3rd December 2007, 20:31
Welcome to KB, Tony & Carolyn

Hmmm...

Firstly, I'm a pom...apparently it's in my nature to whinge.
Secondly, I've explained (and apologised) for inappropriate thread posting.
Thirdly, umm...I do not own a sportsbike.
Fourthly, I was aware of your overtaking manoeuvre.

Look, I've explained the reasoning behind my views and I'll respect the views of all others, but surely you have something more constructive to say than harden the fuck up! Meanwhile, I'll remain quietly heartened by those who see my side of the issue, and say thanks to the others who chose not to air their views publicly but preferred to bling or PM their support :-)

Like I said before, it's threads like these that help to define which camp we all sit in. No bad thing in my view.

QED
(Quite Enough Done!)

Oh so sorry,thats right your were punting along out the back of gladstone on your non sports bike two up at a speed which made it impossible for the poor little hornet to get by.......(drew was following me at that point) So i guess it was the mono pulled past you on the gladstone hill road, you know the one that drew gave you plenty of room to sit back and admire!!!!! once again HTFU... or here's a better idea fuck off home!!!!:done:

flame
3rd December 2007, 20:31
Didn't see the incident so can't comment on it.

But I will ask some questions which are aimed at anyone who is totaly in control and happy to pull stunts on a group ride.
Jared Love looped his 996 pulling a wheelie last year. Are you a better rider than him?
The worlds best stunters still occasionally make mistakes and crash. Are you better than them?
Loris Caporossi nearly looped his Ducati MotoGP bike a couple of seasons back doing a wheelie while celebrating. Are you a better rider than him?
Who wants to be the first KBer to fuck up and take out his mates?

They also crash on corners!! so what do ya think your trying to proove here? do you ride on the road? are YOU better than them???

Drew
3rd December 2007, 20:51
Didn't see the incident so can't comment on it.

But I will ask some questions which are aimed at anyone who is totaly in control and happy to pull stunts on a group ride.
Jared Love looped his 996 pulling a wheelie last year. Are you a better rider than him?
The worlds best stunters still occasionally make mistakes and crash. Are you better than them?
Loris Caporossi nearly looped his Ducati MotoGP bike a couple of seasons back doing a wheelie while celebrating. Are you a better rider than him?
Who wants to be the first KBer to fuck up and take out his mates?

I never implied I was better than anyone, I took a risk, as do we all when we thumb the start button.

I am saying it was as safe as any other pass, the unpredictable would have caused just as much damage were I on two wheels.


There are going to be some bad ass, hard as nails, mother fuckers in this forum once we all start taking your advise.


btw - is Carolyn your working name? :laugh: Biting off more than ya wana chew there fella, Tony is a mate of mine, and really wouldn't need any back up, but a lot of us down here would gladly side with him if you wanna start acting the tough guy.

ceebie13
3rd December 2007, 20:51
...once again HTFU... or here's a better idea fuck off home!!!!:done:

There speaks a man of intelligent comment. Congratulations! You have just won the KB Eloquence of the Year Award :clap:

...and so new to KB as well. Sheer brilliance after only 11posts.

TonyB
3rd December 2007, 20:55
They also crash on corners!! so what do ya think your trying to proove here? do you ride on the road? are YOU better than them???
You have to go around corners Flame. Wheelies are optional and a whole lot more difficult. In the Caparossi example, he'd just spent 45 mins going around corners as hard as he could, yet he nearly fucked up the one wheelie he pulled. As for the rest of your post, what are you on about? I'm asking people to consider that they might not be as in control as they think. The best riders in the world make mistakes, so why would any of us be infallable? And if they do fuck up, are they prepared to potentially take out their mates?

Drew
3rd December 2007, 20:56
There speaks a man of intelligent comment. Congratulations! You have just won the KB Eloquence of the Year Award :clap:

...and so new to KB as well. Sheer brilliance after only 11posts.

More hypocricy, sheer briliance on your part.

The iron is so thick I'm choking with laughter! You ignore most of what Tony says, and choose to taint the whole message by extracting only part.

Honestly people, are we so stupid to expect others to veiw our point when we will not try to see theirs?

ceebie13
3rd December 2007, 21:01
Ok, after a long day at work I have returned to find an epic thread, not really expected but shit happens.

I will conceed happily that I didn't know wether my antics would be well recieved, but given previous experience the crowd goes wild.

I started this thread to point out that I felt I gave more than enough room, and could see more of what was going on, (since I was standing up on the pegs that were an extra two feet off the ground).

I maintain it was as safe as any pass I've ever made, but now know not to do it past you again, (but probably will cos I dont like to back down).

To anyone else who's read this thread that I might one day do something similar past, I pre-emptively appologise.:done:

That suits me, Drew. :niceone: I applaud your sentiment and also the fact that you haven't felt the need to resort to the typical Anglo-Saxon inadequacies of the English language to add meaningless weight to your defence. Fancy a beer?

Drew
3rd December 2007, 21:02
You have to go around corners Flame. Wheelies are optional and a whole lot more difficult. In the Caparossi example, he'd just spent 45 mins going around corners as hard as he could, yet he nearly fucked up the one wheelie he pulled. As for the rest of your post, what are you on about? I'm asking people to consider that they might not be as in control as they think. The best riders in the world make mistakes, so why would any of us be infallable? And if they do fuck up, are they prepared to potentially take out their mates?

Bwahahahahaha, Jarrod love DID loop his bike after a race, the same as Caparossi nearly did, just thought that was funny:lol:

No body is saying I'm infallable, under the circumstances I was in more control than some I've seen riding in a group on a twisty road.

The ONLY issue I paid any attension to was that I was being called recless for endangering others more than I needed to, I addressed it and explained how I saw it, then went on to point out the two faced (as I see it) attitude of those concerned.

ceebie13
3rd December 2007, 21:18
I think this thread is exhausted now, so shall we call it a day?
Seems clear to me that there are those who feel that no rider should be put in any danger by another, whether that be for pulling stunts or speeding.

Then there are those who believe that stunts and speeding on public roads, when executed with skill and control whilst passing other riders are OK and should be admired.

Oh...and then there's those who don't have much to say at all!

Drew, have the last word mate.

Drew
3rd December 2007, 21:34
Drew, have the last word mate.

Ducks have webbed feet.

jrandom
3rd December 2007, 21:36
I've switched to drinking Grolsch recently. I find it has a particularly clean flavour, although it could just be my imagination.

I keep meaning to organise a proper blind lager tasting to see if anyone really can tell the differences. I'm not sure I could.

Clivoris
3rd December 2007, 21:46
I keep meaning to organise a proper blind lager tasting to see if anyone really can tell the differences. I'm not sure I could.

What about some blind wheely testing? I couldn't condone drinking at the same time though...

cowpoos
3rd December 2007, 21:54
What about some blind wheely testing? I couldn't condone drinking at the same time though...
it would make it entertaining?? sounds like fun...I'm up!!

dangerous
4th December 2007, 05:01
Ducks have webbed feet.

so does my dog... does that mean hell be shot in the duck season... ohh yeah he does great whellies (on the hind legs) too does that means hes a bloody shit head? well he is.

Anyway there is a lot of righteous do gooders here, you cant save the world and you are missing out on a lot of life worring about it.
Lighten up you are a long time dead, live life and take the odd chance in life... it can be fun you know, and it beats dying from a heart attack or cancer.

Edbear
4th December 2007, 06:58
Why is it called "Tourist Season" if you can't shoot them...?

Usarka
4th December 2007, 07:08
I've switched to drinking Grolsch recently. I find it has a particularly clean flavour, although it could just be my imagination.

I keep meaning to organise a proper blind lager tasting to see if anyone really can tell the differences. I'm not sure I could.

Ive attended a couple of get togethers along this line. Make it an international theme everyone brings a dozen beer from around the world. Hell dress up if you like (the people in the gas station will never forget hitler touching up his mo on the forecourt using engine grease). Bloody hard work it is to get all them right even with tasting notes.

imdying
4th December 2007, 09:10
They've learnt in stunt school how to hide their pain, it's a bit like boxing, you learn how to hide when you're tired or hurting.

:niceone:That would be the 'no brain, no pain' effect :rofl:

Sanx
4th December 2007, 22:09
This whole thread's been pointless. Everyone knows Drew just can't wheelie (http://www.bikestore.co.nz/pics/gallery/Pukekohe%20-%20AMCC%20Round%201/AMCC_174.jpg). It must be something in the Mair family genes, as his big brother's just as useless on one wheel (http://www.bikestore.co.nz/pics/gallery/LooseBruce%20and%20DSS3%20Memorial%20Track%20Day/MemorialTrackDay_0145.jpg).

But it's OK - I've promised I'll teach them how to do it properly...

(the beating I'm about to get is gonna hurt, ain't it?)

TonyB
5th December 2007, 08:50
It must be something in the Mair family genes, as his big brother's just as useless on one wheel (http://www.bikestore.co.nz/pics/gallery/LooseBruce%20and%20DSS3%20Memorial%20Track%20Day/MemorialTrackDay_0145.jpg).


Ahem (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?p=193684&postcount=1):shutup:

Finn
5th December 2007, 08:53
I've switched to drinking Grolsch recently. I find it has a particularly clean flavour, although it could just be my imagination.

But they've stopped using those really nice ceramic tops that you could use as a tomato sauce dispenser. Now it's just another beer with no added value.

White trash
5th December 2007, 11:54
Ahem (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?p=193684&postcount=1):shutup:
Thought you were spending more time with the kids?!

Finn
5th December 2007, 11:56
Thought you were spending more time with the kids?!

He is, just not quality time.

TonyB
5th December 2007, 12:28
Thought you were spending more time with the kids?!Nah I'm at work, so I've got tonnes of time to dredge up inconvenient information from my gigantic brain and use it to stir shit.:yes:

dangerous
5th December 2007, 20:25
Ahem (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?p=193684&postcount=1):shutup:

Blardy norer Tony... how many hours of surching to dredge that lot up, now did anyone get hurt? nooooooo.... live a little tony ya might like it, whellie that Duk next time ya at the track its a cooooool thing man :pinch:

TonyB
5th December 2007, 20:49
Blardy norer Tony... how many hours of surching to dredge that lot up, now did anyone get hurt? nooooooo.... live a little tony ya might like it, whellie that Duk next time ya at the track its a cooooool thing man :pinch: Did'ne take long- less than 5 mins. Advanced search my freind. 'Tis a useful tool when stirring.