Mrs Oakie's bike thieves go to court shortly...

[Oakie]

Two males (Trevor M aged 22 and Joshua S aged 18) have been charged with theft of Mrs Oakie's Eliminator which was stolen from outside the Palms Mall here in Christchurch on 28 Sept. Because a witness noticed the bike being thrown in a van and took down the rego, the police had something to go on and made the arrests in November.
The 18 year old who has admitted being involved appears in court on 7 December for an initial hearing and the 22 year old who claims not to have been involved (even though the frame of the bike was found in his possession) appears on 11 December for a status hearing. The actual court proceding would not take place until some time between January and March next year. I was going to go to these initial hearings but the detective handling it told me that I could be waiting there all day and it'll probably just be their lawyer who turns up anyway so I'll give it a miss at this stage.
It is suspected that these two guys were acting under instructions of a third party who is suspected of being the guy who sells the stripped parts. More about this in another thread.
Obviously I can't provide their full names here and I will keep them to myself until the legal side is finished with, assuming they are found guilty.

I'll post further developments as they come to hand.

[Mully]

String the fuckers up, Oakie.

Do you or Mrs O get to do a Victim Impact Statement??

[Oakie]

String the fuckers up, Oakie.

Do you or Mrs O get to do a Victim Impact Statement??

Yep. Sent it in last night. Asked for them to be punished in such a way as to feel as violated as Mrs Oakie did when she found out about the theft.

[Sharry]

Yep. Sent it in last night. Asked for them to be punished in such a way as to feel as violated as Mrs Oakie did when she found out about the theft.

I totally agree, they should know the feeling of having a treasured part of you taken and stripped. And I can recomend the part they have chopped of and stripped too:ar15: :bash:

[fireball]

make sure it is more than the "slap on the wrists" that is the solution to everything at the moment.....

should make a point of making this a benchmark case to deter all bike thieves

good luck and i hope they get what they deserve!

[Drum]

Where do they sell the stripped parts? I don't want to be buying any hot bike parts and supporting their godammed crime.

[JimO]

the judge will be soaking a bus ticket at the moment

[ambler]

glad to hear this!
where is the other thread about the suspected third person selling the parts?

[Oakie]

glad to hear this!
where is the other thread about the suspected third person selling the parts?
I started it then realised that I probably need to speak to the police first to see what I can say or if I should say anything. We're trying to find the van that the bike was stolen in to link that to the guy but I need to be careful because:
A) the registered owner may not know anything about it
B) the person now in possession of the van may not know anything about it
and in those circumstances I wouldn't want anyone seeing the van to get all gung-ho and confront the driver
C) I don't want to risk the guy seeing the details here and start covering his tracks. The police are looking for the van and I'd hate to do anything to stuff it up for them.
Give me a few days to speak to the cops and if it's appropriate for me to put the details up here, I will.

[Deviant Esq]

String the fuckers up, Oakie.

Do you or Mrs O get to do a Victim Impact Statement??
+1 to that sentiment. Fucking lowlife scumbags will get off lightly compared to what KBers would do to them anyway... :angry2: :shifty:

Keep us updated.

[jim.cox]

+1 to that sentiment. Fucking lowlife scumbags will get off lightly compared to what KBers would do to them anyway... :angry2: :shifty:

Keep us updated.

I was thinking about wandering along - I work near the court - and taking a couple of portraits for publication

I also suspect a group of bikers sitting in the public gallery glowering would have as much, if not more, deterant effect than the court process

=mjc=
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[Tank]

+1 to that sentiment. Fucking lowlife scumbags will get off lightly compared to what KBers would do to them anyway... :angry2: :shifty:

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Yeah - someones going to start a really nasty thread about them and call them names.


I fully agree that they are scum and need to be punished - but lets be serious - the KB 'gang' will never do anything about anything against a person.

[vifferman]

Yeah - someones going to start a really nasty thread about them and call them names.


I fully agree that they are scum and need to be punished - but lets be serious - the KB 'gang' will never do anything about anything against a person.
:laugh:
Good stuff, Tank, and quite true.

It's quite educational to spend time sitting in the public gallery in the District Court - most of the defendants are repeat offenders and recidivists, and don't give a crap. After the first couple of appearances, they're inured to the whole thing and sentences are at most an inconvenience. Last Monday, I heard three charming 'people' discussing Christmas dinners in prison, and one of them (who was facing the likelihood of a vacation in one of Her Majesty's hotels) was hoping it'd be over Christmas, so he'd have a better meal than if he tried to rustle up his own.

I wouldn't want to be a judge - I guess they have a lifetime of exposure to the legal system so they know what's what, but listening to some of the cases, I would've passed the wrong sentence. Like in the case of Mr Nineteen: his story about "now that he has a partner and young baby he's seen how his mates are bad examples and needs to make a complete new start and move to Christchurch" sounded sincere and moving. But the judge didn't buy it, pointing out that (a) he was being charged for two offenses that occurred while he was on bail for a previous offense, and that (b) the 'clerical error' of his not residing at the address he was supposed to be at wasn't reflected by him reporting that to the police on the two occasions he'd been to the station since allegedly changing addresses, and (c) he'd been charged with 22 offenses so far and was only 19, which didn't seem to indicate he had much intention of "going straight". :shit:

There are some reallyfuktup people living in OuterRower.

[trump-lady]

Why cant you say their full names ANNESA NAYSMITH a 31 year old P Head Pro whos kids are going into CYFS care from Dargiville robbed me.
She got 500 dollar fine
Oh and the police SARGENT said...."shes a very smart attractive lady....Going through a rough time.........." WTF!

[u4ea]

Good stuff Oakie..youre keeping a level head and at least you can have a happy ending to this and can have some sort of closure eventually..hopefully the "name and shame" keeps a few more people awares of where the shit kickers are..lowlifescumarsefukingpeicesofshit

[tri boy]

Not much else to say really.:spanking:
Law change please.:msn-wink:

[Oakie]

I was thinking about wandering along - I work near the court - and taking a couple of portraits for publication

I also suspect a group of bikers sitting in the public gallery glowering would have as much, if not more, deterant effect than the court process

=mjc=
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Feel free if it's convenient. I'd love to get photos of them to put up here if they are found guilty. And yeah. A KB get together in court crossed my mind as helping make it 'real' for these guys. I did put that to the detective and she said it would be OK as long as we behaved. Attendance would only be worth contemplating though if we were to get an actual hearing time rather than just some time on a particular day. We'll see what happens.

[Oakie]

Why cant you say their full names!

Because :
A) I don't know what the implications are of me naming them if by some miracle they are found not guilty

B) If some one located them and meted out some physical harm, well I guess I'd just not feel too good about that.

[vifferman]

Judging by my random sampling of the people I observed at the District Court, the legal system is largely ineffective for all but the 'accidental offenders' (first-timers, who are mortified at being on the wrong side of the law, and never re-offend, whether there are any punishments meted out or not). For serial offenders, any sanctions meted out (by the courts, or elsewhere) are viewed as either trifling inconveniences (as they have calloused consciences), or grossly unfair (because they see themselves as innocent, or more commonly, as being picked on by the cops/courts/society/life the universe and everything). Personal responsibility goes no further than accepting they were dumb being caught, rather than accepting they were wrong in what they did.

[imdying]

I vote we go and rob their houses... I know they'll be out on the 11th :whistle:

[sprag]

I vote we go and rob their houses... I know they'll be out on the 11th :whistle:

LMAO

Now that is funny, and just remember 1 will be out on the 11th and the 2nd one is out on the 13th LOL

[imdying]

Yeah, sure... that was a joke... might be my bike next though :smackinthefacewithahammer:


We don't have a smack in the face with a hammer smiley why???

[sunhuntin]

:bash: <<< closest i could find

[imdying]

:bash: <<< closest i could findPerfect... it'd be worth catching ones of those pricks in the act if you could take their jaw off with the nasty side of a claw hammer :yes:

[jade]

I vote they take something off them that means to them what your bike means to you,
like their nuts, or their lives

[JMemonic]

Oakie and Mrs Oakie I sincerely hope that these idiots get far more than a slap on the wrist with a wet bus ticket.

Its unfortunate that our justice system in more focused on the needs of the offenders than the needs of the victims, in my opinion it should be that items to the value can be recovered from the thieves buy insurance companies and sold to recover the money it cost not only in the replacement of the items but also admin costs etc, this would hopefully make some of these idiots realise that there is a real financial cost.

Alas it wont happen while we have the system we have.

[Swoop]

the judge will be soaking a bus ticket at the moment
I do hope it is in warm water. Too hot, or too cold, might cause distress and trauma.

[Oakie]

Mrs Oakie here, thanks everyone for your support over the last few months. I was surprised that I felt so violated when it happened. Some of the the postings have really made me laugh and others have given me the warm fuzzies. Even though we haven't met it feels like I am in a very supportive family. Thanks guys and gals! By the way these guys may be getting a wee stay on the Queen too. They have been very naughty boys apparently. :grouphug:

[Oakie]

Funny. I've had more than one lot of feedback suggesting they should get their hands removed. When I did the draft of the Victim Impact Report, bearing in mind that I thought it would be really cool to make everyone in court laugh at these two, I finished it up with a paragraph something like this:
"In Muslim countries such acts may be punished by the removal of the right hand. I would go along with this but suspect that in this case it may be too severe a punishment as it would probably remove from these two young men their only source of sexual gratification"

Cool huh? Mrs Oakie said I couldn't have that read in court though and as she was the primary victim I had to obey her wishes.

[MSTRS]

Because :
A) I don't know what the implications are of me naming them if by some miracle they are found not guilty

B) If some one located them and meted out some physical harm, well I guess I'd just not feel too good about that.

I'll wager a fiver that you'd not feel too bad either....

[Oakie]

I'll wager a fiver that you'd not feel too bad either....

Ahhh, I guess I'd get over it.

[Mikkel]

Yeah - someones going to start a really nasty thread about them and call them names.


I fully agree that they are scum and need to be punished - but lets be serious - the KB 'gang' will never do anything about anything against a person.


I vote we go and rob their houses... I know they'll be out on the 11th :whistle:

"You have given out too much..." :rofl::lol::niceone:



I think a decent amount of community service would be in order... I hear they want to dig a pipe from the poo-ponds out to sea - sounds like we got a winner!

With regards to the sexual gratification thing Oakie - one would love to think that such lowlife scum couldn't attract anything that would allow them to procreate - however there are too many dumb bimbos who fall head-over-heels for anything that smells of bad-boy attitude. :rolleyes: