NorthCross Shell garage bike discrimination

[Griff]

I have been filling up regular at the NorthCross Garage (Junction of Carlisle Rd & East Coast Road).

Today they have stated that they will shut off the pumps if I fill my bike up, whilst astride it. I explained at length that as it has a side stand, it is at an angle and therefore can not be filled up sufficiently.

She stated that I should balance it with one hand whilst filling it with the other!!! :angry2: I told her politely that she was out of her tree.

This is NOT about safety, it is about being worried about drive-offs. I even offered in furture, taking my helmit & gloves off but to no avail.

This is fucking discrimination!
Bastards!! Twats!!!:bash::bash::bash::bash:

(Nope, still don't feel better....... Bastards!!!)

[Usarka]

you're probably right about the reason, but are you sure its not about safety.

If petrol spilled and bike went up in flames and you got toasted they'd get a right rodgering from ACC etc....


btw - you can't fill a gsxr600 properly while its on its side stand???????

[Burrt Badger]

If it was about safety, then every person in a car would have to get out while the car was filled with petrol.

[skelstar]

I think you're looking for a reason to complain. Calm down, either work out how to fill up the last 100ml off the bike, do without the extra gas, or go somewhere else.

Discrimination FFS?

[sunhuntin]

what would happen if you spill some petrol while astride? it would run down the tank and likely into the crotch of your pants. what would happen if you didnt realise, lit a smoke later and went up in flames?

my 250 has one bitch of a lean and only has a side stand. i manage to fill her fine without sitting on her. and yeh, ive spilled enough to be glad i dont sit while filling.

its not a drive off thing, as they have cameras for that.

car drivers do not generally have the risk of petrol running onto their clothing, which is why they can remain in their car.

[nadroj]

Ask QKCHK what it's like to have someone give her a fill while sitting on the bike & have a flashback from the nozzle. You'd have thought she had a swarm of bee's in her nickers at the time let alone the frosted screen.

[Usarka]

If it was about safety, then every person in a car would have to get out while the car was filled with petrol.

mucho different. In a car you're not pouring petrol into a tank that's sitting directly above a very hot engine.

woof

[Griff]

what would happen if you spill some petrol while astride? it would run down the tank and likely into the crotch of your pants. what would happen if you didnt realise, lit a smoke later and went up in flames?

How do you light smokes?

[Ewan Oozarmy]

I have been filling up regular at the NorthCross Garage (Junction of Carlisle Rd & East Coast Road).

Today they have stated that they will shut off the pumps if I fill my bike up, whilst astride it. I explained at length that as it has a side stand, it is at an angle and therefore can not be filled up sufficiently.

She stated that I should balance it with one hand whilst filling it with the other!!! :angry2: I told her politely that she was out of her tree.

This is NOT about safety, it is about being worried about drive-offs. I even offered in furture, taking my helmit & gloves off but to no avail.

This is fucking discrimination!
Bastards!! Twats!!!:bash::bash::bash::bash:

(Nope, still don't feel better....... Bastards!!!)

Sounds like a load of old bollocks to me, mate.

I don't think it's a new Shell directive or anything as I pretty much always fill up at Shell garages (4c off vouchers from Foodtown - tight fooker that I am) and have never been told to get off my bike to fill up (I'm in the same boat - no centre stand and filling up on the side stand would not be possible).

Maybe she was just having a bad day (or bad 4 days ;) ).

You could always get enough of your biker mates to cover all the pumps at that particular Shell and if she turns off all the pumps then you all refuse to move 'til she turns them back on.

[vifferman]

While I can understand your annoyance, Griff, I don't see a problem. Filling the bike while sitting on it is just a habit you've gotten into, not the best way to fill the bike. I tried doing it that way once, and it was SO awkward, plus there are the hazards other people have mentioned.

While I *hate* SafetyNazism with a passion, in this instance, I don't think you have a legitimate gripe.

[*caution*]

I fill up there frequently and have not recently been asked to dismount, but i know at all shells they have a sign on the pump saying you can't be on the bike while filling up. They don't have cameras there, or maybe they do but their scope is limited, the staff try and write down the number plate of every car that comes in and cross them off as they pay, they can't see motorbikes obviously cos the plate is at the back.

[Mental Trousers]

Don't go there again. I refuse to go to the servo just up the road now because once I pulled in there, took off my helmet and gloves so the camera could see me, but they still required me to leave a card with the cashier before I filled up. Fuck em.

[Hitcher]

I'm with the garage on this matter. Anybody who sits astride their motorcycle whilst gassing it is, in my opinion, a twat. Any spillage of fuel that subsequently ignited would see the collective ensemble go off like a samba dancer at Mardi Gras. Twat dismounts in a hurry to douse themself, drops bike (because twat didn't have side-stand down), drops fuel gun, fuel and flames flood across forecourt, panic ensues, more fuel ignites, other vehicles join in the flaming fun. Marvellous.

For what purpose? An extra 150-200mL added to a fuel tank? I'm with the garage on this matter.

[vifferman]

Any spillage of fuel that subsequently ignited would see the collective ensemble go off like a samba dancer at Mardi Gras. Twat dismounts in a hurry to douse themself, drops bike (because twat didn't have side-stand down), drops fuel gun, fuel and flames flood across forecourt, panic ensues, more fuel ignites, other vehicles join in the flaming fun. Marvellous.
I'd pay to see that!


For what purpose? An extra 150-200mL added to a fuel tank?
In actual fact, it's a piece of piss (or a spurt of fuel) to fill the tank as far as it will go while on the sidestand, then pull it upright with one handlebar and dribble the last few ml in.
If fullness is important.

[Skyryder]

I'm with the garage on this matter. Anybody who sits astride their motorcycle whilst gassing it is, in my opinion, a twat. Any spillage of fuel that subsequently ignited would see the collective ensemble go off like a samba dancer at Mardi Gras. Twat dismounts in a hurry to douse themself, drops bike (because twat didn't have side-stand down), drops fuel gun, fuel and flames flood across forecourt, panic ensues, more fuel ignites, other vehicles join in the flaming fun. Marvellous.

For what purpose? An extra 150-200mL added to a fuel tank? I'm with the garage on this matter.


Makes sense to me.

Then there is the danger of being rear ended. At least on two legs you can run.


Skyyrder

[Cajun]

Griff i am with you,

i have been filling like this for 10 years, pretty much if you that much of a dick that you spill petrol all over your bike you get what you derseve, i guess some people can't multitask (stand and put petrol in), some bikes the tank designs are very diffucilt to full them up total, and with getting 200kms out of a tank only some times you need that 200kms and not 170, i can get another litre of fuel in my bike using this method.

Often another reason for this is often forecourts are slippy and people can slip while straddling there bike will putting petrol in but beint 6'2 and with a rather light bike i don't really have that issue either.

I worked in gas stations for couple of years, at one stage was pretty much managing one.

[Daffyd]

I'm with the garage on this matter. Anybody who sits astride their motorcycle whilst gassing it is, in my opinion, a twat. Any spillage of fuel that subsequently ignited would see the collective ensemble go off like a samba dancer at Mardi Gras. Twat dismounts in a hurry to douse themself, drops bike (because twat didn't have side-stand down), drops fuel gun, fuel and flames flood across forecourt, panic ensues, more fuel ignites, other vehicles join in the flaming fun. Marvellous.

For what purpose? An extra 150-200mL added to a fuel tank? I'm with the garage on this matter.

I'm with Hitcher on this one, too. I always dismount...somehow I don't relish the thought of a crotch soaked in petrol, Particularly if it's burning!

[Devil]

You know what I find funny.
People who straddle their bike to fill it right up to the top, then lose that same amount of gas out the overflow when they lean the bike over and bump over the kerb to get out of the driveway.

[avgas]

Hate to point this one out for you griff, but it is a health risk - dont believe me - go put a glass on petrol on your office desk......no? why not.
While its fine on a personal perspective, you are on their turf so OSH will rape them if anything happends. H&S Reg 1992 is quite clear.
Also, you bike, like most, will have an overflow. If you fill it too the top, it will empty on the first corner you lean into......so unless you ride a car....slowly.
your advantage to the fuel tank is zero.
Do the world a favor, don't make people lives more complicated because you are pedantic.

[Ocean1]

You know what I find funny.
People who straddle their bike to fill it right up to the top, then lose that same amount of gas out the overflow when they lean the bike over and bump over the kerb to get out of the driveway.

You'd have pissed yourself watching me a couple of weeks ago then.
I'd filled the Buell to the bottom of the spout, (a limit suggested in the manual) and was waiting on the forecourt for a mate to arrive for a ride. He was late, it was a hot day, I spat probably 300cc on the ground purely from expansion.


Also, you bike, like most, will have an overflow. If you fill it too the top, it will empty on the first corner you lean into......

You don't lean your bike into corners?

[Ewan Oozarmy]

You know what I find funny.
People who straddle their bike to fill it right up to the top, then lose that same amount of gas out the overflow when they lean the bike over and bump over the kerb to get out of the driveway.

In many cases I'm sure you're right, but in my case I have a fill level which I can't use when the bike is on it's side stand as the bike sits at around 50 degrees to the ground. As long as I keep the petrol below this level none of it leaks from the overflow.

[crashe]

I have been filling up regular at the NorthCross Garage (Junction of Carlisle Rd & East Coast Road).

Today they have stated that they will shut off the pumps if I fill my bike up, whilst astride it. I explained at length that as it has a side stand, it is at an angle and therefore can not be filled up sufficiently.

She stated that I should balance it with one hand whilst filling it with the other!!! :angry2: I told her politely that she was out of her tree.

This is NOT about safety, it is about being worried about drive-offs. I even offered in furture, taking my helmit & gloves off but to no avail.

This is fucking discrimination!
Bastards!! Twats!!!:bash::bash::bash::bash:

(Nope, still don't feel better....... Bastards!!!)

Try reading the signs up at gas stations.......

It says do not fill up your bike whilst sitting on it.
There is a picture of a motorbike with a person on it.... and a huge red cross right through it.

They have the right to refuse you on those grounds.
Same as those using cell phone of the forecourt, it is also a big No No.

Rules are there for a reason...... what if someone threw a smoke butt out..... and it landed on your bike........ BOOM........ bye bye.

Or if there was leaking fuel..... it sparked and lit up....... BOOM...... bye bye.

[sunhuntin]

cajun... i work in a station currently, and when theres diesel on the ground [damn truckers] ive gone for a skate a few times. i always warn bikes that use the 91 on the diesel side to take care when pulling away. id hate to see someone sitting while filling, having their foot in a puddle of diesel and have that foot slip out from underneath them.

crashe... we have those signs, but the number of people who ignore them aint funny. twice ive had people smoking on the court, almost every single one uses their cell and all the rest of it.

[SPman]

They didn't use to insist on that in 1967, at that garage ......
Times change, I guess........

[sunhuntin]

They didn't use to insist on that in 1967, at that garage ......
Times change, I guess........

back then, you could belt your kids, and their toys were filled with lead. some things change for the better, others for worse.

[Tank]

Save yourself the hassle.

Just around the corner from that station there is the new BP on Rosedale.

The fuel is better.

Its not prepay.

They dont mind if you sit on the bike and fill.

Its clean and new - so the concrete is not slippery and covered with Diesel.

Staff are friendly.

You are welcome.

[Storm]

If you're not happy-vote with your feet. Theres other station who will let you fill however you want

[Swoop]

Just type up a "Declaration of responsibility" that the till-operator has to sign. This will outline the formal responsibility being taken for instructing you "the bike owner" to balance the bike with one hand, whilst filling the fuel tank with the other.
Quite a bit of coordination required here, and one that your insurance company would be interested in...:yes:
"Bike fell over".
"What caused it?"
"Was told to balance the bike with one hand, while standing on a slippery surface."
"You got proof of this?"
"Yup."


You don't lean your bike into corners?
Bikes can lean???
Who'd a thunk it!:sweatdrop

Save yourself the hassle.

Just around the corner from that station there is the new BP on Rosedale.
"Just around the corner"???:scratch:
That is a flamin' looooong corner from Northcross.

[MadDuck]

They didn't use to insist on that in 1967, at that garage ......
Times change, I guess........

Hells bells ...was their petrol stations in NZ in 1967 :dodge:

[Tank]

"Just around the corner"???:scratch:
That is a flamin' looooong corner from Northcross.

Any excuse for a ride.

[avgas]

You don't lean your bike into corners?
Oh goodness no....then i would loose that extra 50 cents worth of gas.....heaven forbid.
But yes, my point....you found it

[Swoop]

Any excuse for a ride.
Or a push....