Have you ever been randomly pulled over for this reason?

[EJK]

Bike cc check + your license class?

:crazy:

[Jeaves]

nope

.......

[McJim]

What does "Pulled Over" mean?

[Ixion]

I've not, but plenty have.

$400 + 25 demerits at present. BUT - the gubbermint announced yesterday (or the day before) that in the next few weeks they will be bringing in tougher penalties for breach of licence conditions . Including maybe impoundment.


Edited - from here (http://www.stuff.co.nz/4320378a11.html)



Young drivers could face zero tolerance on alcohol, more practical training and tougher penalties for licence breaches as part of a road safety package to go before Cabinet.

"In the next few weeks we intend to release the next suite of measures,"

A spokeswoman for Ms King said a wide package of road safety initiatives aimed at young drivers could go to Cabinet before Christmas or early in the new year.

Ms King said a major part of the changes being considered included extending the graduated licence period. A requirement for more practical driving instruction could also be introduced.
...

Tougher penalties for breaches - such as a learner driving alone, or a restricted driver caught with other youngsters in the car after 10pm - are likely to be part of the road safety package.

Transport Safety Minister Harry Duynhoven was unavailable for comment yesterday. However, he said in April that young drivers who breached their licence conditions could be forced to return to driver training or even lose their cars.

[Usarka]

What does "Pulled Over" mean?

When some one yanks you too hard.....

[Coyote]

I hope I won't :shifty:

[EJK]

I hope I won't :shifty:

lol that relates to my next question:

What will be the punishment for a Learner on 400?

and Restricted on 400?

[Ixion]

I just told you !

[EJK]

I just told you !

$400? serious? I thought it was about like.... $150?

[Warren]

I think it would be much more likely to be pinged for licence breaches if you get pulled over for something else such as speeding or even if you are involved in a crash.

In my 8 years of motorcycling I have never been randomly pulled over.

[Coyote]

$400? serious? I thought it was about like.... $150?
Haha, if only


I'm on my full so I'm allowed to have a 400, just it's a piece of shit and whenever I've fixed it enough for it's warrant something else breaks off. Can't get your rego unless it's warranted too, so that's gone out :buggerd:

[Ixion]

$400? serious? I thought it was about like.... $150?

From the LTSa website



Penalties for not keeping to your licence conditions
It's important that new riders develop driving skills in a safe environment - safe for themselves and others. Consequently, you'll face fines and demerit points if you break the conditions of your restricted and learner licences. (These measures are designed to encourage new riders to abide by the rules at all times.)
If you break the conditions of your learner or restricted licence, you'll face:

a $400 infringement fine
a penalty of 25 demerit points.

But , as noted below, they will be a lot tougher next year. It's probably going to be harder to move from one stage to another , also.

[sAsLEX]

and Restricted on 400?

From my experience.....


$120 odd for the speed and a "thats not a 250 is it? ......... make sure you get that license soon as you have done the time now." talking to, I will get round to getting the full soon, now some mates have 250s I can borrow.

[spudchucka]

$400? serious? I thought it was about like.... $150?

$400 & 25 demerits currently. Expect to see that change in the near future to $150 & 35 demerits.

[deanohit]

Bike cc check + your license class?

:crazy:

Why exactly are you worried about this? :confused:





Thinking a larger bike are we? :shifty:

[cooneyr]

I think the bigger issue is the most insurance companies will not come to the party if you have a crash and are in breach of license conditions. Take out a nice shiny BWM on ya >250cc bike while you don't have your full and you could seriously hurt for many years, and I don't just mean your body from the crash impact. $400 would look like peanuts if this happened.

Cheers R

[Rosie]

I think the bigger issue is the most insurance companies will not come to the party if you have a crash and are in breach of license conditions.

+1
Insurance companies are not charities. They can be weasely enough as it is, without adding breaches of licence conditions etc to the mix.

[EJK]

Why exactly are you worried about this? :confused:





Thinking a larger bike are we? :shifty:


I think the bigger issue is the most insurance companies will not come to the party if you have a crash and are in breach of license conditions. Take out a nice shiny BWM on ya >250cc bike while you don't have your full and you could seriously hurt for many years, and I don't just mean your body from the crash impact. $400 would look like peanuts if this happened.

Cheers R


+1
Insurance companies are not charities. They can be weasely enough as it is, without adding breaches of licence conditions etc to the mix.

I was offered a ZZR400 the other day....

Well, overall I want the insurance to be on my side :yes:

Yeah, too bad no ZZR400 lol

[fireball]

i got pulled over on the FXR
and i was breaching the law in 4 different ways.....
cost me $0.00 go figure eh?:2thumbsup

[EJK]

*cough**cough*

:lol:

[Finn]

I rode my CBR1000 for several months without a bike license at all, but I'm tough. I then went on a shonky LTSA authorised CBTA course and went from zero to full in 4 weeks. Suckers.

[Toaster]

Bike cc check + your license class?

:crazy:

It is $400 per licence breach and 25 demerits.

[fireball]

mate of mine:whistle: got pulled over on her hyo randomly, cop swore it was not a 250 and was just a re badged bike.....

[Weaver]

Ms King said a major part of the changes being considered included extending the graduated licence period. A requirement for more practical driving instruction could also be introduced.

...Shit, us under twenty fives have to ride a 250cc for a minimum of 18 months to start with.


I have an L-plate displayed and I was pulled over last thursday for speeding. I was doing 115kms in a 100km area and the policeman gave me a warning for breching the conditions of my license (still got fined $80 and 20 demerits for the speed though). He said the same as every one in this thread is saying about the fines. $400 and 20 demerits.

Also, my hyosung doesn't have 250 written on it anywhere and he didn't mention the CC's at all. But he probably just checked my rego instead

[delusionz]

Me never specifically for that, He probably just wanted to randomly pull you over.

Once I was pulled over for doing 70kph in 50 and the first thing the officer asked me is if i knew what cc bike i could ride on my license and then asked what my bike was and then proceeded to inform me of my speed.

Maybe you didnt look confident, and that's just the first questions they ask bikers? Because your bike surely doesnt look any bigger than 250cc :P And I'm sure a cop would pull over wobbly riders, sooo, were you wobbly? :P


PS.. How you been EJK buddy we're due to meet up again soon? :D

[Lteejay]

Had routine check on the the way to Coromandel couple of weeks ago. License class, CC rating, wof and rego. Although he asked me what the CC was - pointless IMHO.

[McJim]

you guys get all the fun...I've never even been pulled over.

Think I'll need to go for a hoon through Balclutha and wake Scumdog up eh?

[boomer]

I rode my CBR1000 for several months without a bike license at all, but I'm tough. I then went on a shonky LTSA authorised CBTA course and went from zero to full in 4 weeks. Suckers.

and it shows

[raster]

The problem with a ZZR400 is it looks like a 600 not a 250, people often ask me if it is 1100.

Who offered you the bike? My sister is looking for a bike.

In Australia you would be able to ride it because it has a lesser power to weight ratio than a GSXR250

[AllanB]

I think it would be much more likely to be pinged for licence breaches if you get pulled over for something else such as speeding or even if you are involved in a crash.

In my 8 years of motorcycling I have never been randomly pulled over.

Really - man try the run to Akaroa over the summer - earlier this year they did a blitz over the weekends for a couple of weeks - pulled over every bike in Taitapu for a 'documentation' check, only bikes. They were very nice about it all.

I know a few Harley riders on their restricted!

[warewolf]

In NSW the cops pull over anything that looks like a 250cc bike because virtually the only people that ride them are L & P platers. They pull you over, do a licence check and hope to get you for not showing your plate. As people come off their Ps they can't wait to upgrade from the 250cc to stop the cops from hassling them at random. Seasoned riders who go back to 250cc start getting hassled, so change back to a bigger bike.

At any roadside check, the cops would always pull me over, even if they damned near killed themselves getting through 3 lanes of traffic on an 80km/h inter-urban road in order to flag me down... only to find it was wasted effort because I was a good little boy.

I was pulled over on the TDM850 once, cop made a big effort to get me and not the other easier cars ('cos I make equal effort to position myself such that I'm the least obvious vehicle - subtly, of course). "Can I see your licence?" he says, walking around the back of the bike to check for a plate, sees none, comes back looking smug, "this is a 250 innit?" I reply, "Nope, 850cc" pointing to the hard-to-read script on the tailpiece. I'm still fishing for my wallet, he says, "oh don't worry about that, I thought you were a learner." We chat briefly about the bike, "on your way, have a good night."

Well that was the norm back when we were in Aussie, since then they've introduced the LAMS (learners can ride approved modest power-to-weight bigger bikes - pretty much anything except uber-sports weaponry) so the 250 issues probably aren't so bad anymore.

[HungusMaximist]

Ha, feck, it gotta suck getting pulled over by the cops and runnnig a licence check on you.

I personally haven't experienced anything like this, possibly because I am 6 foot 1. I too started riding in Aus, but it was in VIC so possibly the attitude their is a bit different, but then again I couldn't go that fast on 27 hps.

I remember Kim (Klyong82) telling me how he got pulled over once by the cops becuase they thought he was a kid/child on a 900 cc sports bike. The ones who know him here know he isn't the tallest fellah.

[Finn]

and it shows

Short arse.

[scumdog]

you guys get all the fun...I've never even been pulled over.

Think I'll need to go for a hoon through Balclutha and wake Scumdog up eh?

Pfft! Don't bother ME! - I'm still trying to get pulled over myself - last time for a 'random stop' was in 1996.

[sunhuntin]

i quite often have people asking what cc my 250 is... many think its at least a 400. never been targetted for it though... and it doesnt say anywhere that its a 250 either, cept on the rego.

[trump-lady]

The other night I was pulled over for the first time in New Zealand. Wasnt do anything wrong so presumed it was for the reason stated. Suxed cause I had my boy on the back. First time ever on a bike (trying to get him into the bike buzz so he wont complain when Im always out riding) We got cut off in the fast lane on SH and he was very scared.....(wasnt a close call, I anticipated it happeneing but for a new pillion woud have been scary) so I moved to slow lane and did speed limit. Saw the motorbike cop on the side of the road and sure enough he was after us. Did nt have my license but he checked warrant rego and ran my license but specifically asked if I had my full. He let us go and since then my boy wont go on the back again :( It seems everyone had a negitive bike story to tell him after he told them about it....we nearly crashed (he thinks) and he hates cops....... shame hed be perfect if he rode ....sighhhhhhh...On another note police cant pull you over in the states without probable cause.....

[zeocen]

I have when I had my GPX 250, it was the only time I have ever been pulled over.
The flashing lights came on and I stopped and parked, guy took my licence and did a check then came over to see my bike and said "Oh this bike is fine for restricted license" then said I was free to go.

Scratched my head a bit and then got angry that my burger was cold :(

[zeocen]

I was offered a ZZR400 the other day....

Well, overall I want the insurance to be on my side :yes:

Yeah, too bad no ZZR400 lol

Like the other guy said, ZZR400's are in 600 frames, they are big bikes.. they most definitely do not look like 250s.

gijoe mentioned you were in the market for a ZZR250, they are a great bike and eat up corners deliciously. They're not an IL4 but they're also not exactly slow either, if you know what I mean ;p

[Unforgiven]

Ive been pulled over for a 'Random check'

Cop tried to tell me I was a liar, that my lil GSXR was 'At least a 400' (isnt on rego) as they dont make GSXR250's :bs: and therefore I was getting a ticket.

He got really grumpy when I just started laughing :killingme (I couldnt help it) and told him to radio in the plate if he didnt believe me.

[Taz]

Is it illegal to mount an L plate on an 1100cc bike?

[scumdog]

$400? serious? I thought it was about like.... $150?

ANY breach of licence = $400
(even driving a manual when your licence says 'auto only'.

[Highlander]

In my 8 years of motorcycling I have never been randomly pulled over.

In the last couple of years I have been flagged over twice for "Routine Checks", both times on the bike.
One they tried to shove the breathaliser in the gap between my helmet and chin but gave up.
The other he checked Reg / wof then said "I assume you have a licence for this" I nodded and pointed to the tank bag he said "Great day for a ride, enjoy!" and waved us off (Wifey was on the back).

For those of you riding outside the conditions of licence, the fines pale signifacantly next o isurance non pay out should an accident be deemed to be your fault.

[McDuck]

i got pulled over on the FXR
and i was breaching the law in 4 different ways.....
cost me $0.00 go figure eh?:2thumbsup

I got pulled over once to. I smacked the cop over the head with my helmet and rn into the bush.
















maby not.

[vifferman]

No, I got pulled over for the other reason.

[99TLS]

yes i have years ago when a borrowed a friends gs 1000, was on learners, got away with it as i was going to see my missus who was about to give birth, even got a cop escort to hospital

[fireball]

I got pulled over once to. I smacked the cop over the head with my helmet and rn into the bush.


you are not very clever are you?
that is rather insensitive...

plus some of us have the luck of the irish.... in my case this particular cop knew me from work.... coffee is a wonderful thing:Punk:

[McDuck]

you are not very clever are you?
that is rather insensitive...

plus some of us have the luck of the irish.... in my case this particular cop knew me from work.... coffee is a wonderful thing:Punk:

Lol in the time i was actualy pulled over i got a very small fine. Being nice to cops helps :)

[Radar]

I rode my CBR1000 for several months without a bike license at all, but I'm tough. I then went on a shonky LTSA authorised CBTA course and went from zero to full in 4 weeks. Suckers.

Zero to full in 4 weeks by doing a LTSA authorised CBTA course???

Never heard of the CBTA course. Whats it about or is it a joke?

[Ixion]

No joke, but also no longer available. Sorry.

It was a trial by the LTSA a few years ago of an accelerated GDLS for mature riders. But when the trial finished they stoppe dit. You can't do it now

[Toaster]

The only time I have been pulled over I won a gift pack.

[scumdog]

$400? serious? I thought it was about like.... $150?

ALL licence breaches are $400 - oh and don't forget the 25 demerits....

Just in case that yet again somebody has got through life thus far without knowing the above.

[breakaway]

Don't ride over 250cc, riding anything bigger on L or R will result in immediate death as soon as you get on the bike :rolleyes:

[Squiggles]

Don't ride over 250cc, riding anything bigger on L or R will result in immediate death as soon as you get on the bike :rolleyes:

Didnt you come rather close to that? ;)

[fireball]

ALL licence breaches are $400 - oh and don't forget the 25 demerits....


dare i ask what part of the south you hail from? last time a cop pulled us up i heard those words......(i was not the driver to clarify)

[breakaway]

Didnt you come rather close to that? ;)

Yes, but I honestly believe that if I had a CBR250RR it would have made zero difference to what happened on that day.

[Maverick]

you guys get all the fun...I've never even been pulled over.

Think I'll need to go for a hoon through Balclutha and wake Scumdog up eh?

Nah, its cause you ride a Duke, and everyone knows that Duke owners are too scared to ride fast incase they get dirty, and young guys cant afford em, so why bother? :rofl:

[Morcs]

Is it illegal to mount an L plate on an 1100cc bike?

Technically its a breach of license and a $400 fine.

[EJK]

Technically its a breach of license and a $400 fine.

That is correct

[discotex]

Yes, but I honestly believe that if I had a CBR250RR it would have made zero difference to what happened on that day.

That might be true from the perspective of the bikes performance but....

If someone is willing to risk the fine and no insurance they're more likely to take risks in their riding style (not saying that was the case with you at all).

I'd be willing to bet that per km travelled those who ride over 250cc on their 6L and 6R crash far more often and more seriously than those who stick to the rules.

Personally I'd like to see us adopt the aussie system of power vs weight.

[littlegixxer]

i got pulled over for sweaving slightly, i was wearing in my new front tyre, had petroled it and was getting that protective storage coating crap off them out near the edges.
when i told the cop he looked at me like i was crazy, dumbass.

[raster]

apparently there is a law againt zinging :wacko:

[mstriumph]

Have you ever been randomly pulled over for this reason?

Bike cc check + your license class?

:crazy:

is this a bad thing? :mellow:

[Zuki Bandit]

Bike cc check + your license class?

:crazy:
Nope, never!

[nivram]

No, just you :yes:

[DMCD]

Do they sting you real bad for not using you L Plate?

[scumdog]

Do they sting you real bad for not using you L Plate?

No.



Well, not if you don't think $400 fine and 25 demerits is stinging you 'real bad'.

[sinister^]

No.



Well, not if you don't think $400 fine and 25 demerits is stinging you 'real bad'.

Why is it so expensive aye, why can't it be $150. :(

[DMCD]

No.



Well, not if you don't think $400 fine and 25 demerits is stinging you 'real bad'.

I would rather risk that than try to ride on the open road at 70kph, has anyone actually tried that, not a bucket load of fun getting pushed off the road or having some dumbass doing 110 around a blind corner and coming up on you fast.

I would rather take the big yellow sign off stating that I'm breaking the law and cruse a a safe 100kph :P