How long does it take 2?

[blue eyed savage]

how long did it take you to get a knee down? and how did u do it?

have no chiken lines on your back tyer?

scrape a peg with out falling of.

when do u know its time to go to a track and wich track do u go to if u live in the naki

[sAsLEX]

5 years and counting......

Decked the pegs on the coroloop a couple of times.

[EJK]

Got my knee down after 5 months.... elbow, head, arm, hand, waist, torso etc etc too

Not preety lol

[cowboyz]

how long did it take you to get a knee down? and how did u do it?
you mean without getting your shoulder down at the same time?
have no chiken lines on your back tyer?
road riding you will always have chicken strips. Either than or make sure your insurance is well up to date.
scrape a peg with out falling of.

when do u know its time to go to a track and wich track do u go to if u live in the naki

It sounds like you are suggesting that you need to be a good rider to get on a track. Its like saying "When I am good enough I will start practicing". Taupo is not far from the naki and Manfield is only a little further. The whole scrapeing everything on the tarmac is not my thing. I prefer to get round corners without scrapeing stuff. Go to a trackday and you will learn heaps about your riding and your bike. But forget about dragging your knee or getting rid of your chicken strips. If you are that concerned about what others think of your riding then you will fall off.

[blue eyed savage]

coroloop sounds like a good ride. wher is it. iv heard people talk aboput it heeps.

and i think i might go to a track some time and take it EZ on the road. dont want to drop my baby

[NighthawkNZ]

how long did it take you to get a knee down? and how did u do it?


Who cares if you have or haven't... all this talk of getting knee down is so much wank factor... especially on public roads... (Its as bad as the dyno thing say my bike pulls X number HP more than yours... wank/toss) I don't even try to put knee down I happily keep up with all those that say they do. As for chicken strips again who really cares, on the road is a good idea to have something in reserve for that oh fuck arse clenching moment..

you asked about when is is right to go to a track... you already know.

[sAsLEX]

coroloop sounds like a good ride. wher is it. iv heard people talk aboput it heeps.

and i think i might go to a track some time and take it EZ on the road. dont want to drop my baby

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[Ixion]

Gene-O-Kleen. Evolution you can see. In the giant economy bottle.

[AllanB]

My Honda Hornet pulls 250hp rear wheel - proven on a dyno and I had to have my knees replaced in hospital as I wore the bastards out on the tarmac, if I push it now they spark due to the titanium replacements.

True story. Its just a mates Hornet parked in my shed with chicken strips on both sides, as mine is getting fitted with a super charger as I feel 250hp is for pussies and I am looking at at least 300 with the charger.

My personal friend Rossi just gets his knees down on a good day and apparently he is rated as a OK rider.

I pull wheelies around roundabouts as I find standing up high allows me to see over the cars in front of me and if the bastards get in the way i just hop over them trail style.

I have discovered that on a naked Hornet you need to be doing at least 350 kph before your helmet starts to lift, and I only wear one due to my receding hairline (a result of very high speed without a helmet no doubt).

I used to ride naked but found it hurt too much when my dwanger touched the chain (thought about changing to a belt drive but tried riding with a hard-on instead - however I found this obscured my vision).

Incidentally I get 92mpg out of my Hornet when thrashing it.

Tyra Banks keeps bugging me on the phone for a date and my wife is getting pissed with her. I asked 7 of 9 (Google her) to tell Tyra to piss off but she is not happy with me living with my wife and would not make the call. Chicks!

Man and all you are worried about is getting a knee down :lol:

[cowboyz]

My Honda Hornet pulls 250hp rear wheel - proven on a dyno and I had to have my knees replaced in hospital as I wore the bastards out on the tarmac, if I push it now they spark due to the titanium replacements.

True story. Its just a mates Hornet parked in my shed with chicken strips on both sides, as mine is getting fitted with a super charger as I feel 250hp is for pussies and I am looking at at least 300 with the charger.

My personal friend Rossi just gets his knees down on a good day and apparently he is rated as a OK rider.

I pull wheelies around roundabouts as I find standing up high allows me to see over the cars in front of me and if the bastards get in the way i just hop over them trail style.

I have discovered that on a naked Hornet you need to be doing at least 350 kph before your helmet starts to lift, and I only wear one due to my receding hairline (a result of very high speed without a helmet no doubt).

I used to ride naked but found it hurt too much when my dwanger touched the chain (thought about changing to a belt drive but tried riding with a hard-on instead - however I found this obscured my vision).

Incidentally I get 92mpg out of my Hornet when thrashing it.

Tyra Banks keeps bugging me on the phone for a date and my wife is getting pissed with her. I asked 7 of 9 (Google her) to tell Tyra to piss off but she is not happy with me living with my wife and would not make the call. Chicks!

Man and all you are worried about is getting a knee down :lol:

obviously swapped the honda motor out for a kawasaki to get that kind of power.

[howdamnhard]

Who cares if you have or haven't... all this talk of getting knee down is so much wank factor... especially on public roads... (Its as bad as the dyno thing say my bike pulls X number HP more than yours... wank/toss) I don't even try to put knee down I happily keep up with all those that say they do. As for chicken strips again who really cares, on the road is a good idea to have something in reserve for that oh fuck arse clenching moment..

you asked about when is is right to go to a track... you already know.

What Nighthawk said.I haven't tried to get my knee down as my pants aint got no sliders so it could be a little painful.Concentrate on cornering smoothly and the rest will come naturally( thats how I got my pegs down i.e. wasn't trying ).Try force it and you will probably see your ass.;)

[Storm]

obviously swapped the honda motor out for a kawasaki to get that kind of power.

What, did you forget your glasses, he said 250hp, not 25hp :bleh:

[cowboyz]

ok Dad..........

[Jantar]

how long did it take you to get a knee down? and how did u do it?

have no chiken lines on your back tyer?

scrape a peg with out falling of.

when do u know its time to go to a track and wich track do u go to if u live in the naki

I first had a knee down after 12 months of riding when I slid over a bank on a gravel road. Not reccomended. 37 years riding and racing, and I've never had a knee touch the ground while I've been still on the bike.

Yes, I have had more than a few tyres with no chicken strips left. Also not recommended as that means I have been riding with no safety margin.

I first scraped a peg without falling off on Levels in 1972, 2 years after I started riding. The first time I scraped any part of the bike while road riding was the stand on a GT380 in 1973. That was very easy as they would scrape well before running out of tyre.

Now, a question for you BES, what is your fascination with trying to kill yourself? All of these questions are about pushing the limits well beyond safe riding.

[Storm]

It takes a couple seconds to bend down and kneel on the ground to check the oil

[ital916]

A knee down noob question. If you shift your weight enough and hang of the pegs, you can get around most corners without having to lean the bike that much aye? Hence is there any beneficial factor to knee down? As a newbie rider i find that there are a huge range of opinions on this. I personally don't intend on going knee down on public roads! As a mate said recently the roads a fuck more unpredictable than the track.

[blue eyed savage]

i just wanted to know if my riding was normall and it sounds like it is. i do like to push it and my boot touched the ground once but like all young men i want more. thanks for the replys this site does help the newbees.

i need to find a track. whens taupo open i wonder, i think aaron does track days and teackes people how to ride safer and faster.

[blue eyed savage]

:headbang: newbe going hard :headbang:
does tyer chose make a diffrance with corning on a 250?

[scumdog]

Wot 'e sed.

Knee-dragging/zero chicken strips etc and bragging about it is like "my cock is bigger than yours" kinda shit.

Whoeffingcares??????

[scumdog]

:headbang: newbe going hard :headbang:
does tyer chose make a diffrance with corning on a 250?

Looks like the same wear-pattern as on the rear of my wifes 1200 Sportster..

[SDU]

If I ever get my knee down on my bike there'll be lots of swearing followed by hospital food :argh:

[2strokegirl]

i managed to hit both my pegs so far and havent quite got the knee down as i dont have sliders yet and dont want to fuck my knee.

and yes the open road is too unpredictable.

[Chill]

I damaged the pegs so much on the GN I'm going to have to replace one. But that's probably due somewhat to going hard on a 250 on the Rimutaka hill to keep up with others, and possibly incorrect riding lines.
No knee downs, wouldn't try it.

[2fst4u]

because i feel the need to be a noob...

what the hell are 'chicken strips'? i have never in my life heard of this expression before. can someone please help me out?

[cowpoos]

because i feel the need to be a noob...

what the hell are 'chicken strips'? i have never in my life heard of this expression before. can someone please help me out?
about $6.50 from KFC

[cowboyz]

it is the strip of un-used rubber on the edge of your tyre because the bikes doesnt get over far enough to scrub that piece of rubber. Not leaning over to the edge of your tyre = chicken. It puts a ring round your tyre like a strip. wallah! Chicken strips. Just go look at your nearest Honda and you will see what I mean.

To get serial for a minute. Any road rider sho has no chicken strips needs a large wallet or needs to learn plastic welding.

[2fst4u]

it is the strip of un-used rubber on the edge of your tyre because the bikes doesnt get over far enough to scrub that piece of rubber. Not leaning over to the edge of your tyre = chicken. It puts a ring round your tyre like a strip. wallah! Chicken strips. Just go look at your nearest Honda and you will see what I mean.

To get serial for a minute. Any road rider sho has no chicken strips needs a large wallet or needs to learn plastic welding.

haha, thanks for the explainations. both of you ;)

[sAsLEX]

haha, thanks for the explainations. both of you ;)

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Explained fully with the above pic!

[blue eyed savage]

now thats funny.

[Mr Merde]

36 years of riding and I very rarely get the knee down (Sometimes get a leg over though).

Current bike has taken me a year to be able to scrub the chicken stripes off the rear tyre, mainly due to a very bad steering wobble for the first 35,000 km. Now have no or very little of these on the rear and am working on scrubbing off the stripes on the front tyre.

I ride very mush as an addition to the bike rather than an appendage and therfore do not overly clamber around. Also has something to do with my fat gut balanced comfortablyon the tank.

Due to my advanced age my riding style was very much influenced by such riders as "Mike the Bike", Geof Dukes" and "Agostini" all of whom very rarely put the knee down. I fact I can remeber when people started talking about getting ones knee down and keeping the bike as upright as possible when cornering. If memory serves me right it was riders like Kenny Roberts and Freddie Spencer who shocked the world with their extravagant style of riding.

[vtec]

The knee down is just to be used as a guide for lean angle (although it can also be used to save slides if you are awesome), you really need the right surface conditions, good tyres and a sporty bike for this tactic to be necessary, even when I'm racing I only put the knee on the ground if I'm worried about a front end slide. Focus only on your riding, if you need the knee you will find that you use it anyway.

[jcupit69]

Depends how fast you learn. Some bikes are easier than others. Originaly did it after bout 18 months in the uk on a cagiva mito (125cc 2stroke 916 copy), which had a steering damper and weighed nxt to nothing. Had a zxr 250 and my peg always hit b4 my knee did.

Now iv got a rs 250 aprilia and its easy as, although iv only found 1 corner so far where its safe and useful to do it.

Best advise if ur really wanting to is get ur slider pads, make sure youve got good sticky tyres (that youve warmed up!), find a nice smooth open corner and just get to know the corner. Make sure its quiet and theres nt much to hit if you go down and then just slowly work away at it. Practice practice and then practice some more. Dont ride outside ur confidence or ability, just take it slow. If it doesnt feel right or isnt necessary, dont try!!! Just keep taking the corner faster, and like others have said, if you need it you'll do it!!

On public roads it takes ages and there aren't many places its useful or safe to do it....to be honest its much easier and better kept on a track. But it puts the biggest grin on ur face when you get it.
Theres also a video on youtube that mite help, it shows the common mistakes people make when trying to do it, and gives a bit of a tutorial, heres the link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCg3BMGe52M

If the link doesnt work just search 'mcn' in youtube and it should be one of the top results.

Good luck!!!

[TOTO]

how long did it take you to get a knee down? and how did u do it?

have no chiken lines on your back tyer?

scrape a peg with out falling of.

when do u know its time to go to a track and wich track do u go to if u live in the naki

I've been riding 5 weeks and have scraped both boots on the bottom twice each , but I think it may be a little while for a peg:whistle:. The monday riding school menthoring learners aperantly knows how to teach "peg scrapers wannabies" how to actually do it lol. MAy go there to check it out.
oooo , I ALMOST scraped a peg on the kawakawa ride last week, hope maybe next time ... :yes:

[RC1]

, although iv only found 1 corner so far where its safe and useful to do it.

why do you feel its useful to get your knee down on public roads ??

[jcupit69]

why do you feel its useful to get your knee down on public roads ??

eh, well i suppose useful isnt necessarily the right word, its just a slightly more fun way to make it round the corner, and you can take it a lil quicker. I did sayin my previous message its best left to the track. Trust me i dont do it lightly, or when theres anything around, or even that often; but once in a while its just a bit of fun.

[Jantar]

.... and you can take it a lil quicker. .....

Really????

[RC1]

thats crap IMHO

[325rocket]

I know this isn't the question you asked but …
Like those old bastards on the cheese ads say … “All things take time”. The last thing you want to do is hurry this kind of thing along on a bike (on the road).
Get to a track, don’t go there with the intention to get your knee down. Get on the track, learn some stuff, get faster through the day and before you know it it’ll happen…

Note: this was written by someone who has now done two track days and no knee down yet.

Just think cheese.

[jcupit69]

thats crap IMHO

Its a 270degree bend from a 50 into a 100 n is nicely sealed. My previous bike didnt like it, cus the pegs would hit; on my new one its easer to get over n feels faster, whetha thats other elements of the bikes ability to corner faster i dont know, but being able to get over further on my new bike i feel i can get through the corner carrying abit more speed. whether or not its the quicker way through on another bike ???? but it feels better on mine if i get over, knee down or not. take a corner on a R1, a 600 monster and a 250 2stroke and they corner differently, mine responds best with my weight over the side.