Tinted visor in the night - Solution

[TOTO]

I don't know if ayone else has done this but, a couple of days ago I had to ride in nightime on the motorway and Because I have an iridium visor on my helmet It was hard to see during the night with it(doooh :blink:) and so I decided to put the visor up and ride with an open visor , but the wind was so great I was forced to put it back down. That got me thinking - I know that people sometimes carry a clear visor during the night but for me that is not an option coz I always have my uni books in my backpack and the trunk can barely fir a chewing gum , let alone a whole visor:lol:. Anyway - I had the idea to go to a safety sop for builders and look at those clear proection goggled they have. I ended Up buying a pair of Bole Safety Goggles that cover eyes and eyebrows - tried them and they work like a charm:cool:. the goggles costed me only $12 and I beleave its one of the nicest ideas I've had in a while. :niceone:

Anyone else found that or am I the first to discover "America". :clap:

Also does anyone have any other solutions to the tinted visor night riding issue.

Be safe

[babyblade250rr]

I'm yet to find a solution to the tinted visor at night senario also, i think the clear goggles you brought sound like a very good solution too.


:yes:

[adamh]

Also does anyone have any other solutions to the tinted visor night riding issue.

Have you tryed ductaping it open?? And wear glasses or you get bugs in your eyes. :laugh:

[Blue Velvet]

I carry a clear one in my pack but if it can't go in there I wear it around my body under my jacket. You can get Oxford visor pouches you wear like bum bags under your jacket:

http://www.thevisorshop.com/acatalog/Product_Catalogue_Visor___Helmet_Carriers___Bumbag s_13.html

I've seen them advertised in NZ.

[TOTO]

Have you tryed ductaping it open?? And wear glasses or you get bugs in your eyes. :laugh:

Hmm , dont think that will work well. The goggles I got are curvy and cover the whole eye region all the way up to the eyebrow, but I font think you would be able to wear normal glasses under them. I currently wear contact lenses so it not an issue, but If I was wearing glasses like you said , I'm not quite sure.

[Coyote]

Invest in some MX/Ski googles. They look way cooler :p

[babyblade250rr]

I wear it around my body under my jacket.


I wish i was a clear visor lol:innocent:

[TOTO]

I carry a clear one in my pack but if it can't go in there I wear it around my body under my jacket. You can get Oxford visor pouches you wear like bum bags under your jacket:

http://www.thevisorshop.com/acatalog/Product_Catalogue_Visor___Helmet_Carriers___Bumbag s_13.html

I've seen them advertised in NZ.

I guess it would be nice on a long trip. Are you carrieng it around town aswell? Doesn't it get on the way?

[Blue Velvet]

I guess it would be nice on a long trip. Are you carrieng it around town aswell? Doesn't it get on the way?

I recommend positioning it around your waist, at your side (i.e. under your arm). It doesn't get in the way there I've found.

I don't have one of the bum bags (yet) but use a soft helmet bag with a draw string if wearing it under my jacket. Works well. Bottom of the visor kinda slots into the top of my bike pants and stays put. Don't notice it.

Edit: If you wear the visor as suggested above, then it doesn't get in the way/dig in if you're also stuck having to wear a backpack.

N.B. Around town visor is in my day pack. If bag gets full I swap to above carrying method.

[TOTO]

Good Idea.

Related question to visors - I heard there is something the visor can be cleaned with so water does not stick to it but I have no clue what to ese or look for. Any sugestions ?

[GaZBur]

If you have a jacket with back padding like a dri-rider have you tried slip it inside the pocket that holds the foam. Shouldn't bulge or restrict movement and is extra back protection too.

[Blue Velvet]

If you have a jacket with back padding like a dri-rider have you tried slip it inside the pocket that holds the foam. Shouldn't bulge or restrict movement and is extra back protection too.

I'd still recommend a visor or helmet bag so the visor doesn't get scratched.

[Pixie]

I'm yet to find a solution to the tinted visor at night senario also, i think the clear goggles you brought sound like a very good solution too.


:yes:

Nolan VPS
http://www.nolan.it/images/vps.jpg

[pritch]

Also does anyone have any other solutions to the tinted visor night riding issue.

I didn't use tinted visors on the basis of past sad experiences of the freezing eyeball kind.
I prefer these:
http://www.helmetheadcyclegear.com/cgi-bin/eShop/index.cgi?exact_match=yes&product=%20Sunblockers

They stick in with dishwashing liquid and water and if you buy a new visor, you just peel the Sunblocker off off and stick it in the new visor. I have two in different helmets.

Recently I got a tinted pinlock visor so now I need to watch the clock again...

[TOTO]

Nolan VPS
http://www.nolan.it/images/vps.jpg


Nice desighn, Wonder how much is that helmet ?

[sunhuntin]

i carry clear gogs for night riding since i dont have any visor at all, lol. need to get some darker sunnies for sunset riding, lol.

[Blue Velvet]

Nolan VPS
http://www.nolan.it/images/vps.jpg

Get a flip top head, or get a Nolan :lol:

They are heavy helmets though...

[Mikkel]

Get a clear visor and use that if there's any chance you have to ride after dark. Then you can carry a set of sunglasses for the day time if necessary.

I've found that riding at night with my smoke-tinted shoei visor is doable - but I wouldn't want to go out into the country side. However, around town (and on motorways I suppose) it's fine.

[Kendog]

I have ridden the motorway a couple of times at night with a tinted visor, if I ride for long like that I have sore eyes when I get home.

I also have one of the Oxford visor bags for around the waste, these are great even if its just to store the visor in your bag when on a long trip.

[James Deuce]

Get a flip top head, or get a Nolan :lol:

They are heavy helmets though...

What are you guys on? Most Nolan helmets come with VPS now. My N101 was lighter than a Shoei Spirit 1000 of the same size, according to the scales.

[Blue Velvet]

What are you guys on? Most Nolan helmets come with VPS now. My N101 was lighter than a Shoei Spirit 1000 of the same size, according to the scales.

Really? Oh. My perception was that they were heavy helmets based on some interdweeb research I did when I was looking for a new helmet earlier this year.

No offence loike.

[James Deuce]

Good Idea.

Related question to visors - I heard there is something the visor can be cleaned with so water does not stick to it but I have no clue what to ese or look for. Any sugestions ?
Nikwax Visor proof.

http://www.nikwax.com/en-us/products/productdetail.php?productid=274&activityid=5&itemid=-1&fabricid=-1

Everyone else will go, I use plexus, it's wonderful, or just use pledge. The aerosol propellant in those cans will damage a shatterproof visor. It it is marked shatterproof, don't use aerosols on it, use the spray bottle equivalent.

I find Visor Proof superior to pledge and plexus because it doesn't attract dust and I can use my Wee Willy to clean the visor and it doesn't remove the coating.

[James Deuce]

Nice desighn, Wonder how much is that helmet ?
There's this fantastic thing called the "Internet" and people have been good enough to develop "Search Engines", preeminent of which is "Google".

It returns results like this:

http://www.nolanhelmets.com/

and this:

http://www.motorcyclegear.co.nz/shopdisplayproducts.asp?id=815&cat=Nolan

I widely recommend the "Internet".

[James Deuce]

I have ridden the motorway a couple of times at night with a tinted visor, if I ride for long like that I have sore eyes when I get home.

I also have one of the Oxford visor bags for around the waste, these are great even if its just to store the visor in your bag when on a long trip.

Second that. They fit in tanks bags and tail packs really well, without taking up much space, if any at all.

[jrandom]

I hear the drums echoing tonight
But she hears only whispers of some quiet conversation...

:hug: <tencharacters>

[James Deuce]

No offence loike.

Why the hell would I be offended?

Now I'm REALLY grumpy.

[NinjaNanna]

Use a clear visor all the time and wear sunglasses during the day!!!

Works for me plus it gives me the confidence that the UV light is actually being filtered out - not so sure about the tinted visors.

[NZsarge]

Second that. They fit in tanks bags and tail packs really well, without taking up much space, if any at all.

I reckon:niceone:

[surfer]

Already doing the wrap around safety glasses wear. They are strong, cheap and a good fit and tough, probably better than sunnies that aren't designed for bike riding.

If you want to spend more money and like the clear saftey glass you can invest in a pair of glasses that the US troops wear in Iraq.

[Big Dave]

My favourite solution is a pair of Wiley-X sunnies with changeable lenses.

Cool sunnies to night goggles in 30 seconds. and all you have to carry is the lenses in their small pouch. (it's an aussie thing)

[MD]

What century are you folks living in? Still waiting for Y2K?
When you eventually move beyond seeing the wheel and fire as recent inventions and join us in the 21st century you will discover internal sun visors are the way to go!

I know of four riders now with Cabergs;
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=31921&page=3
This baby is now sold in NZ;

Airoh TR1
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=57540

I can't remember the brand but TSS Motorcycles sell a common brand now that has an internal visor aswell.

[sAsLEX]

Good Idea.

Related question to visors - I heard there is something the visor can be cleaned with so water does not stick to it but I have no clue what to ese or look for. Any sugestions ?

What Jim is meant to say below is use Pledge. Its cheap and easy and work well, even Gliding companies use it on their canopies.


Nikwax Visor proof.


Pledge comes in a spray bottle that uses fingers power to propel the liquid so no nasty propellants anymore!

[James Deuce]

Pledge comes in a spray bottle that uses fingers power to propel the liquid so no nasty propellants anymore!
If you could read you'd see that I said that both Plexus and Pledge come in a squeeze bottle.

They cost more and don't work as well as Visor Proof. You guys can keep using a more expensive, inferior product if you like.

[sAsLEX]

If you could read you'd see that I said that both Plexus and Pledge come in a squeeze bottle.

They cost more and don't work as well as Visor Proof. You guys can keep using a more expensive, inferior product if you like.

But does Visor Proof work on your furniture?

[DingoZ]

I can't remember the brand but TSS Motorcycles sell a common brand now that has an internal visor aswell....


I think the brand is HJC, and it comes with an internal tinted visor, and a clear normal outer visor....

[sAsLEX]

I can't remember the brand but TSS Motorcycles sell a common brand now that has an internal visor aswell....


I think the brand is HJC, and it comes with an internal tinted visor, and a clear normal outer visor....

As an engineer I cant see how they would be as safe if they are the same weight as a standard helmet.

Will keep my dark visor and squinting at night option thanks you

[James Deuce]

But does Visor Proof work on your furniture?

Only the plastic furniture. We have lots of that now thanks to the kids. Vomit doesn't stick anymore.

[DingoZ]

As an engineer I cant see how they would be as safe if they are the same weight as a standard helmet.

Will keep my dark visor and squinting at night option thanks you

Huh..??

Is a half visor that slides down behind the clear visor....(Same thing as in Pilots helmets)....How is that unsafe, if it is a design feature of the helmet and meets safety standards and approvals..?

[sAsLEX]

Huh..??

Is a half visor that slides down behind the clear visor....(Same thing as in Pilots helmets)....How is that unsafe, if it is a design feature of the helmet and meets safety standards and approvals..?

as it is adding something more internal to the helmet between the outer shell and you head where normally there is impact absorbing foam?

If they keep the same amount of foam then it is increasing the size/weight of the helmet, which is acting like a lever on your neck so more weight is bad.....

Good principle is KISS.

[James Deuce]

Cork helmets with spinner visors for everyone!

[DingoZ]

as it is adding something more internal to the helmet between the outer shell and you head where normally there is impact absorbing foam?

If they keep the same amount of foam then it is increasing the size/weight of the helmet, which is acting like a lever on your neck so more weight is bad.....

Good principle is KISS.


So you are basically saying all the Manufacturers of Helmets are stupid and their helmets are unsafe...?


Take a look at the photo in previous post. I don't think they are inferior helmets or heavy, or unsafe

[James Deuce]

Take a look at the photo in previous post. I don't think they are inferior helmets or heavy, or unsafe

You need to read the Hurt report mate and it's recent update. Then you'd know that most Helmet manufacturers think we're stupid.

[DingoZ]

got a copy of that report, I may need to get my translator to read it to me....I might not comprehend...I don't have degree's

[James Deuce]

got a copy of that report, I may need to get my translator to read it to me....I might not comprehend...I don't have degree's
Drop the humble act and read. You might learn something. It applies equally to your rescue equipment.

http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/gearbox/motorcycle_helmet_review/

Hurt Report Summary: http://www.clarity.net/~adam/hurt-report.html

Hurt Report in its entirety: http://www.ct.gov/dot/LIB/dot/Documents/dhighwaysafety/CTDOT_Hurt.pdf

An interview with Harry Hurt: http://www.soundrider.com/archive/safety-skills/harry_hurt_interview.htm

[DingoZ]

Humble......You mistook me.....My sarcasm perhaps....Like so many others on here..

Have Read the report....Interesting facts and figures in it I agree..
Personally would rather wear a helmet like the one pictured, with the option to have the best of both tinted and clear, which has been designed to be that way, meeting all the safety criteria and testings, than to ride with a TINTED visor only and "Squint", or have my vision impaired..

But then that is like so many things on here...MY OWN CHOICE...

So HUMBLE me will post no more on this subject

[James Deuce]

What is this, Take it Personally Day?

[DingoZ]

Not at all Jim2, I don't take things personally.....:)

Haven;t got the fine art of Typed sarcasm down quite pat yet...:)

Oh and is there anywhere in NZ to get the Visor Stuff, or does it have to be ordered from offshore..?

[Hitcher]

Why don't you just wear normal sunnies behind a clear visor?

[homer]

I used to have a 50 tint visor on a helmet years ago and i used to ride a lot at night , u get used to it

[DingoZ]

I do.....Wear sunnies behind a clear visor..

[sAsLEX]

Take a look at the photo in previous post. I don't think they are inferior helmets or heavy, or unsafe

No I am saying by adding more features to the requirements of the helmet it makes the equation of a light safe helmet harder to achieve with having to add the extra visor and its equipment into the shell.

Yes, it must weigh more than a similar helmet as it has more in it.



Why don't you just wear normal sunnies behind a clear visor?

A few sunnies press on the temple, I cant get one of my pairs inside the helmet at all.

[discotex]

Why don't you just wear normal sunnies behind a clear visor?

a) it doesn't look as cool (I ride a sprotsbike so this is extremely important ;))
b) polarised sunnies make crazy rainbow colours (like acid but without the giggling and not so safe)
c) comfort (my Shoei fits nice and snug over my temples and the sunnies are a pain to get in and pinch a bit)

Fortunately my $20 gas station sunnies do ok but I can't wait to get a tinted/mirrored visor now that the days are long enough that I'd rarely ride home in the dark.

[polini man]

BOYS I HAVE SOME PRO GRIP LENS,THAT STICK ON THE INSIDE OF YOUR VISOR,THEY ACT AS DOUBLE GLAZING AND STOP THE FOGGING ON YOUR VISOR AND THEY TINT AS THE SUNLIGHT HITS THE LENS,AND OF COURSE CLEARS WHEN THE SUNLIGHT IS OFF THEM.I HAVE BLUE OR BRONZE OR RED(THATS THE COLOUR THEY GO IN SUNLIGHT) .
$50-00 EACH,GIVE ME A RING ON 09 262 3565 OR EMAIL PITWERKX@YAHOO.COM.AU

[owner]

I wear my sun glasses at night

[Hitcher]

I wear my sunglasses at night
so I can
so I can
Watch you weave then breathe your story lines.
And I wear my sunglasses at night
so I can
so I can
Keep track of the visions in my eyes.

[Grub]

Nice desighn, Wonder how much is that helmet ?

$599 is the RRP, we got ours for $535, others have theirs from the US at about $US390. Ours have bluetooth bike-bike comms kits which adds another $465 (and worth every cent)

There's beent at least two long threads about these helmets so do a froum search and have a read

[TOTO]

What Jim is meant to say below is use Pledge. Its cheap and easy and work well, even Gliding companies use it on their canopies.



Pledge comes in a spray bottle that uses fingers power to propel the liquid so no nasty propellants anymore!



Thanks for translating for me , I taught I dont get it coz I'm foreign :clap:

[TOTO]

$599 is the RRP, we got ours for $535, others have theirs from the US at about $US390. Ours have bluetooth bike-bike comms kits which adds another $465 (and worth every cent)

There's beent at least two long threads about these helmets so do a froum search and have a read

Thanbks Grub, Will do. many thanks

[Weaver]

I've got an HJC FS-10, and its a brillant helmet (other than the fact that it only comes in black or a gray pattern).
It was $450, RRP $500. It only weighs 1450 grams.

Now sAsLEX, have you ever looked at the weight of a $250 helmet compared to a $1000 helmet. The expensive one is not lighter because its smaller or has less "features". Its lighter because its made out of better material.
So now dont you think that perhaps the helmets with the glasses inside them are made with lighter material as well?

[fredie]

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/crash-gear/bamboo-helmet-from-roof-is-for-eco-petrol+heads-293020.php bamboo helmet with coconut visor:clap:

[ynot slow]

Clear visor with sunnies,helmet is hjc.
Am thinking that maybe you could use stick on tint from repco or similar,as long as not a dark tint,would be similar to a smoke lens,would do it on wifes helmet only,she doesn't ride just pillions.

[sAsLEX]

Now sAsLEX, have you ever looked at the weight of a $250 helmet compared to a $1000 helmet. The expensive one is not lighter because its smaller or has less "features". Its lighter because its made out of better material.
So now dont you think that perhaps the helmets with the glasses inside them are made with lighter material as well?

Yes, a Shoei/Arai et al at that bracket are lighter than some cheap helmets due to their construction.... but you miss my point.

What is lighter a car with 1 seat, no radio, no air conditioning, no lining or carpets, or a car with 7 leather heated motorised seats, multi zone climate control, 48 speaker stereo, shag pile carpet with baby moose leather and marble accents?

Both do the same job of transport. Both have the same chassis and mechanical workings, but the second would weigh a lot more.

[DingoZ]

Ooooooooo....Santa brought a present of Red Rep and a fuck off message....... :clap:


Brilliant, outstanding display of intelligence to that person.... Pity you didn't sign it, I would have given you some green in return...:)

[Weaver]

Yes, a Shoei/Arai et al at that bracket are lighter than some cheap helmets due to their construction.... but you miss my point.

What is lighter a car with 1 seat, no radio, no air conditioning, no lining or carpets, or a car with 7 leather heated motorised seats, multi zone climate control, 48 speaker stereo, shag pile carpet with baby moose leather and marble accents?

Both do the same job of transport. Both have the same chassis and mechanical workings, but the second would weigh a lot more.

I'm not saying that sunglasses built in aren't going to add some wieght. However that weight can be taken out somewhere else, for example by making it out of lighter material.

Also your example with the cars is terrible. Thats like comparing a full race helmet to your average $250 helmet. Apples with pears mate.

Now i'll also really spell it out for you.
It doesn't have to be heavier. The weight can be, and is kept low by making it out of a fiberglass composite weave shell.

[sAsLEX]

Also your example with the cars is terrible. Thats like comparing a full race helmet to your average $250 helmet. Apples with pears mate.

What's a full race helmet?

You can buy basically the same helmets they wear in the MotoGP, most NZ racers race in helmets bought off the shelf in NZ, and most people I ride with have a decent helmet probably upwards of 500 dollars.

$5 head.......


But the engineering behind them remains the same.

Adding features with either make it heavier than a similar construction helmet, to compare apples to apples rather than your "they will just use lighter materiel", could make it larger and could be detrimental in its overall effectiveness in avoiding brain injury.

[Weaver]

Adding features with either make it heavier than a similar construction helmet, to compare apples to apples rather than your "they will just use lighter materiel", could make it larger and could be detrimental in its overall effectiveness in avoiding brain injury.

You say it could, but it doesn't make it larger or reduce its effectiveness. The proof is in the pudding. My HJC FS-10 only wieghs 1450 grams and meets the safety standards.

[Big Dave]

or a car with 7 leather heated motorised seats, multi zone climate control, 48 speaker stereo, shag pile carpet with baby moose leather and marble accents?


When did you see my Merc?

[Disco Dan]

I have found that keeping the visor down the whole time and not looking at headlights/street lamps etc my pupils stay large enough to see the road - takes a while to adjust completely and all it takes is to look at a pair of headlights to screw up my night vision.

I have had to ride from the shore to out west at night with only a tinted visor a few times - 99% of the time I remember to pack my clear visor in my tank bag!

[discotex]

You say it could, but it doesn't make it larger or reduce its effectiveness. The proof is in the pudding. My HJC FS-10 only wieghs 1450 grams and meets the safety standards.

Yes but my Shoei XR-1000 weighs 1350g and probably exceeds the standards by a long shot. Certainly the Arai's do. They do a bunch of penetration and crush tests not in the spec.

What sAsLEX is saying is technically correct. For the same level of protection at the same low weight you can't add features. Given that top end helmets are usually made of the best compromise of lightweight and strength if you add something you have to take away somewhere else.

Whether or not that matters on the road is another argument altogether. Do you really need to exceed the spec for road riding or do you just need it in race helmets? Maybe an internal visor meaning you don't ride with a tinted visor at night makes you more safe..?

[DingoZ]

Maybe an internal visor meaning you don't ride with a tinted visor at night makes you more safe..?

Exactly the point I was trying to make. (but obviously did not succeed).. I like the option to have the choice of internal visor to eliminate the need to

1. Only stick to either clear or tinted visor
2. Carry a second visor and change it over
3. Risk riding, with a tinted visor at night, and have vision impaired..

I currently ride with a clear one, and wear sunnies. But having tried a helmet with one of the internal tinted visors as well as a clear one on the outside, I will be making the change to one of these, as I do a lot of riding both in daylight and at night....

I can see your point as well Saslex, however for me, it's not an issue of one helmet being lighter/heavier, safer/or not as safe as the next helmet. It is one of practicality and requirement. And if the heavier not so costly helmet meets those needs then I think it's all good. Each to his/her own....:)

[Kittyhawk]

Swimming goggles lol.

Gladwrap?

meh....when you get a mouth full of bugs, go alongside a car and spit them on the window <_<

Im used to riding with a visor up at night, eyes water, but ya get used to it.

[Pancakes]

Good to see any topic can become a shit fight on KB still, I was giving up hope!!

Those stick on things (I have only loked at the first page and this one) are good. Nearly as good as the free tint I got from a car tint place and applied myself. No danger as I set the hight where the roof of a van I'm following would be so it blocks out the sky but not the road. Cuts glare awesomely! If your gonna try it measure 6 times and stick once cos the tints not moving once it's stuck!!

I saw a bike cop the other day who has a stip of black duct tape at a similar hight, plain and tidy.

For the weight weeneys what does a sheet of tint 40mm x 22mm tip the scales at? (if it registers at all)

As for "race helmet"? If they are different at all (and I doubt it cos you'd hate to be a manufacturere that does a small run of product you can't sell for road use either? Costing money for reduced return? I don't think so.) Race tracks have less angular things to impact on and there have been threads on this site and others about whether the track environment is less harsh on a helmet than the road.

Just my late night written fast 2c

[Bullitt]

Am thinking that maybe you could use stick on tint from repco or similar,as long as not a dark tint,would be similar to a smoke lens,would do it on wifes helmet only,she doesn't ride just pillions.

Have you ever tried to stick a flat piece of tint onto a motorcycle visor thats curved horizontally and vertically. The only options are:
1. Have it only fit in a couple of places and have it look really bad
2. Cut it into lots of small pieces where every time it overlaps itll be twice as dark
3. Work out some way to stretch the tint (Im not aware this is possible)
4. Buy a tinted visor

I just bought an FS-10 and Im quite happy with it. Id prefer to ride with a tinted visor than with the internal visor down but with my old helmet I got sick of changing them all the time.

While I agree with some of Alans arguments Id say at best from the following list you can only pick two.
1. Relatively Light Weight
2. Extra Features
3. Value for money if safety is the only concern

[mowgli]

Have you ever tried to stick a flat piece of tint onto a motorcycle visor thats curved horizontally and vertically.

I haven't tried this with visor tints but with thin perspex you can use a hot air gun to soften the material before stretching it over a curved surface. This is what I'd try.

[Smokin]

I have a piece of black static cling vinyl, covers the whole visor, a bit like a big tear off really. I put it on before a ride and if it gets too dark I peel it off, roll it up and put it in a cigar tube.
can be a bit of a pain to put on without air bubbles in it but it wouldn't take more than a couple of minutes and only 1/2 a second to remove.

[Stella]

I have been wondering if it was possible to get the top half of the visor tinted... THANKS SO MUCH for the tip of the "Sunblocker"!!

I suffer so much in the bright light and use my sunglasses almost always when riding. But you do get those times you forgot your sunglasses or the sun is hitting your face just right so you get massive double reflections of your face on your visor and sunglasses....

Is it possible to get this in NZ or just through the US company? I am googling but haven't found anything local yet.

[Pancakes]

Yeah the tint can get bubbles cos it doesn't stretch easily but it's not too bad. Duct tape works a treat and if thats too rangi for ya a signwriter can do vinyl to fit real sweet.

The picture is my old lid with one layer of tint inside and one outside. The layers are staggered as you can see and the bubbles only look lighter from the side the tint isn't on so I did the lower layer inside.

[YellowDog]

Yep, same problem. I got my visor changed to a gradual tint one. I can look down for strong sunlight and up for night riding. Easier than it sounds.

You will change your mind about goggles when you get a May-Fly squish itself on your teeth :eek5:

[Smokin]

Yeah the tint can get bubbles cos it doesn't stretch easily but it's not too bad. Duct tape works a treat and if thats too rangi for ya a signwriter can do vinyl to fit real sweet.

The picture is my old lid with one layer of tint inside and one outside. The layers are staggered as you can see and the bubbles only look lighter from the side the tint isn't on so I did the lower layer inside.

The static cling film doesn't leave any air bubbles at all if you dont rush fitting it and will give you great clarity, It's also reusable 100s of times.

[Badger8]

Personally use a clear visor and some $20 gas station wrap-around sunnies.
As for keepin the rain off, i have had Rain-X recommended to me (available from warehouse, repco etc). It says on the label not to use on plastics unless approved, but apparently people have used it without troubles. (Havent got around to putting it on mine yet, so dont quote me on that! :) )

[TOTO]

been using rain-X for a week already , its worth the 6 bux I PAyd for it. recomend it to all.

[MGST]

The static cling film doesn't leave any air bubbles at all if you dont rush fitting it and will give you great clarity, It's also reusable 100s of times.

Where do you get that stuff from? Sounds like an excellent idea to me ( an uneducated dumbass :stupid: ).