Ciggie butts

[Gubb]

I'm not a smoker, and I do find it a little disgusting, but hey, whatever floats your boat, as long as I don't have to deal with the smoke in my face i'm fine.

I'm also not a fan of litter, but when I sit behind cars, and watch the driver flick a lit ciggie butt out the window, this really disgusts me.

DO YOU NOT HAVE ANY RESPECT?!?

So I was sitting beside a sparkly-new Beemer 320 something at the lights today, and the driver flicks her ciggie butt out the window window towards me, it hits me in the jacket. I proceeded to put the bike on it's stand, pick up the butt, and threw it back through the driver's window.

The look on the woman's face was absolutely priceless as she panicked to pick up the lit butt from her new upholstery. I figure if it's good enough to be thrown out the window, it's good enough to be thrown back in.

As I got back on my bike, I heard a toot from the van behind me and the two guys were pissing themselves laughing, and gave me a thumbs up.

Seems i'm not the only one that disapproves.

[MyGSXF]

So I was sitting beside a sparkly-new Beemer 320 something at the lights today, and the driver flicks her ciggie butt out the window window towards me, it hits me in the jacket. I proceeded to put the bike on it's stand, pick up the butt, and threw it back through the driver's window.The look on the woman's face was absolutely priceless as she panicked to pick up the lit butt from her new upholstery. I figure if it's good enough to be thrown out the window, it's good enough to be thrown back in

:clap: hahahahaaaa.. ferkin awesome!!! on ya!!!! :first:

Ciggy butts lying around everywhere are ferkin disgusting!!!!!!!!!!! :oi-grr:

[Number One]

totally agree with GSXF ...that dirty beemer driving biarch probably thinks her shit don't stink too! Effin awesome you got balls and good on ya I would've probably been a big girls blouse and just swore in my helmet loudly and flipped her several birds :argh:

[C_A]

awesome. will tkae the same attack.

closest i've had is one go through my fornt wheel whilst stationary.

'tis yuck

[davereid]

Like the sign says in the dunny at my favorite watering hole :

"Please don't throw your cigarette butts in the urinal. It makes them hard to light"

[Hitcher]

Cigarette butts, due to the nature of their construction, do not easily biodegrade. Smoking is an unhealthy and filthy addiction. Its practitioners indulge in denial on a range of levels, so why shouldn't the disposal of butts, ash and smoke be included in this?

[skelstar]

Awesome... glad its not another whinny thread about being victimised and what should we do blah blah. A well deserved green bling coming your way.

[xwhatsit]

Somebody here once claimed to have done this at speed -- caught it in their glove on the motorway, then tossed it back through the window. I've often wanted to do the same, but my hand/eye coordination is piss weak.

Don't have a problem with smoking at all, don't mind second-hand smoke or people smoking around me whatsoever, but cigarette butts being tossed out the window (or dropped in the street and stood on) is pretty shit in my book. There seems to be a tolerance for it that people don't have for people who, say, spit gum onto the footpath, or toss soft-drink/beer cans out the window at the lights.

[cheese]

LOL fuck mate you are a legend. That is pure gold. Green bling!

[MyGSXF]

Smoking is an unhealthy and filthy addiction. Its practitioners indulge in denial on a range of levels, so why shouldn't the disposal of butts, ash and smoke be included in this?

Yep.. tis interesting & sometimes scary stuff when ya reeeeally look into just "what is" behind addictions!!! denial is a powerful tool!!! :eek:

[Grub]

On Tuesday morning half way down Ngauranga Gorge, the passenger in a Kone Lifts service vehicle flicked her ciggy butt out the winda and it just missed my leg.

Hmm I thought, that is a work vehicle and therefore a "workplace" under the Smokefree Act. So I rang their GM Human Resources and potted them.

Seems I was right, it IS a "workplace" and the woman was most interested to have a wee chat to the employee :)

Nothing like a successful stir on a Choosday

[Storm]

Grub and HG- you're both legends. Well done for not just watching shit happen and doing nothing.Hopefully there's now two slightly more considerate smokers in the world :D

[MisterD]

I think I remember hearing that something like 60% of all litter is smoking related...bloody well done on some effective direct action.

[Cache Wraith]

Good one. A mate of mine did the same thing many years ago. He was walking across a pedestrian crossing and someone tossed a butt from a car window onto the crossing. He casually picked it up and tossed it back into the car. Priceless. If people want to smoke, that's really none of my business if they want to commit a long gradual suicide, but it disgusts me every-time I see butts lying around, particularly outside entrances to buildings. Smokers are oblivious to the fact many people who choose not to partake in such a stupid pastime find it gross that what they have been sucking on in their mouths ends up lying around where we have to walk. I understand that smoking is an addiction and not easily kicked, but that doesn't give smokers the right to be so inconsiderate of others. The smokers who flick butts from their cars while sitting at lights and driving must think they are so cool, as they have mastered the art of doing it so nonchalantly. I actually feel sorry for them, because far from being cool all they are doing is lining their lungs with black tar. May as well ride without a helmet while sitting backwards on their bikes, it's likely to have the same end result as smoking.

[Gubb]

Well, hopefully she learned her lesson. I suspect that from the reaction I got from the guys in the van, it won't be the last time I do it.

[Jimmy B]

Im a smoker and sorry to say that Ive flicked a few butts around in my time. Its filthy and disgusting but its an addiction and a powerful one at that, well at least for me.

Hubba Grubba, I am amazed that someone would actually flick a butt directly at you, you did good work there :niceone:

[babyblade250rr]

I'm also a smoker, however over the years i've made a good habit of putting my ciggies out and throwing them in a near by trash can, I try and do my part for keeping nz clean but good onya mate for your reaction to this ponsy lady

:niceone:

[vifferman]

What I don't get is why smokers don't just put the butts in their car's ash tray? I have a suspicion that for many of them it's because they don't want dirty stinking butts in their car, making it all ashy and smelly
If this is the case (that they recognise the butts are horrible), then why assume no-one else cares if they pollute the rest of the world with them?

[xwhatsit]

I think it's mostly just good, honest human laziness. Saw a woman earlier this week come out of a side-street, stand next to a rubbish bin (you know the ones with the little ash-tray thingie on top), throw the cigarette on the ground, stand on it, then walk away. *Smacks forehead*

Like I said, I'm not a crazy anti-smoking campaigner; I don't mind cigarette smoke at all, but when people don't clean up after themselves, that shits me.

[u4ea]

Im a smoker and sorry to say that Ive flicked a few butts around in my time. Its filthy and disgusting but its an addiction and a powerful one at that, well at least for me.

Hubba Grubba, I am amazed that someone would actually flick a butt directly at you, you did good work there :niceone:


I'm also a smoker, however over the years i've made a good habit of putting my ciggies out and throwing them in a near by trash can, I try and do my part for keeping nz clean but good onya mate for your reaction to this ponsy lady



:niceone:Yep me too..I have been called a 'clean' smoker by non-smokers!




What I don't get is why smokers don't just put the butts in their car's ash tray? I have a suspicion that for many of them it's because they don't want dirty stinking butts in their car, making it all ashy and smelly
If this is the case (that they recognise the butts are horrible), then why assume no-one else cares if they pollute the rest of the world with them?

'Tis merely an attitude of how the individual cares about another I rekon..

Good on ya HG..

[Squid]

Funny you mention it. I was sitting at the lights one time and saw the chappie in front of me drop a empty box of smokes out the window, if it was just the butt yeah whatever but the whole box..... So I pulled up next to him (revving higher than I needed to) knocked on his window (with hard knuckles on my gloves, harder than I needed to...) and told him he dropped something. Needless to say he opened the door and picked it up while looking suitably sheepish. :lol:

Anyone had any other rubbish debris hit them while riding? I got half a box of McD's fries in the chest one day between Te Awamutu and Hamilton once.... :mad:

[sinfull]

Funny you mention it. I was sitting at the lights one time and saw the chappie in front of me drop a empty box of smokes out the window, if it was just the butt yeah whatever but the whole box..... So I pulled up next to him (revving higher than I needed to) knocked on his window (with hard knuckles on my gloves, harder than I needed to...) and told him he dropped something. Needless to say he opened the door and picked it up while looking suitably sheepish. :lol:

Anyone had any other rubbish debris hit them while riding? I got half a box of McD's fries in the chest one day between Te Awamutu and Hamilton once.... :mad:
Mention it ! Hell He's taken up smoking and given up since ! Been married twice and has 3 kids !

[AllanB]

Good for you.

I fail to understand the reasoning around throwing a lit butt out of the window of a car. I'm pretty sure if I threw a burning stick into their lounge they would not be impressed.

I've a issue with what appears to be a youth thing - littering. When I was a young lad you were brought up not to litter 'keep NZ green' and all that. I constantly see young ones dumping rubbish out of their cars.

I would have thought in these tree-hugging, save-the-world times that the youth of today would be very anal against littering.

I don't understand it.

[Squid]

Mention it ! Hell He's taken up smoking and given up since ! Been married twice and has 3 kids !

yeah only looked at the date after I posted that and had one of those "oh shit meah never mind" moments.

Dont even know how I stumbled on this in the 1st place :scratch:

[FlangMasterJ]

Funny you mention it. I was sitting at the lights one time and saw the chappie in front of me drop a empty box of smokes out the window, if it was just the butt yeah whatever but the whole box..... So I pulled up next to him (revving higher than I needed to) knocked on his window (with hard knuckles on my gloves, harder than I needed to...) and told him he dropped something. Needless to say he opened the door and picked it up while looking suitably sheepish. :lol:

Anyone had any other rubbish debris hit them while riding? I got half a box of McD's fries in the chest one day between Te Awamutu and Hamilton once.... :mad:

Yep. I had a Big Mac box thrown at me heading onto the Wellington motorway. <_<

Who the fuck does that?!?!

[Indiana_Jones]

Yep. I had a Big Mac box thrown at me heading onto the Wellington motorway. <_<

Who the fuck does that?!?!

A cunt who had just finished a Big Mac? lol

But yea. I hate people that flick butts out of their cars when moving, I can deal with it at the lights etc

-Indy

[tigertim20]

I'm not a smoker, and I do find it a little disgusting, but hey, whatever floats your boat, as long as I don't have to deal with the smoke in my face i'm fine.

I'm also not a fan of litter, but when I sit behind cars, and watch the driver flick a lit ciggie butt out the window, this really disgusts me.

DO YOU NOT HAVE ANY RESPECT?!?

So I was sitting beside a sparkly-new Beemer 320 something at the lights today, and the driver flicks her ciggie butt out the window window towards me, it hits me in the jacket. I proceeded to put the bike on it's stand, pick up the butt, and threw it back through the driver's window.

The look on the woman's face was absolutely priceless as she panicked to pick up the lit butt from her new upholstery. I figure if it's good enough to be thrown out the window, it's good enough to be thrown back in.

As I got back on my bike, I heard a toot from the van behind me and the two guys were pissing themselves laughing, and gave me a thumbs up.

Seems i'm not the only one that disapproves.

Totally agree!!! haha beaut! wish I saw the look on her face, bet it was worth it, :laugh:

[Squid]

But yea. I hate people that flick butts out of their cars when moving, I can deal with it at the lights etc

-Indy

See thats where its and advantage smoking a pipe while driving in a cage :sherlock: no left over butts, just a little bit of ash. Everybodys happy :jerry:

[AD345]

When I flick my butts out of my car, I at least try to aim....




...for the eyeball

[cs363]

What I don't get is why smokers don't just put the butts in their car's ash tray? I have a suspicion that for many of them it's because they don't want dirty stinking butts in their car, making it all ashy and smelly
If this is the case (that they recognise the butts are horrible), then why assume no-one else cares if they pollute the rest of the world with them?

Whilst I'm certainly not defending it, I'd say one reason is that most if not all newer cars don't have lighters or ash trays fitted any longer. Some brands do have retro-fit kits available but usually at ridiculously high cost.

I'm an occasional smoker and the VZ Commodore ute I usually drive was one such car (I could have bought a commuter bike for the price of the freaking 'smokers kit'! So I just went to Repco and bought an Ashtray that fits in the cupholder - simple.

[Hitcher]

I hate people that flick butts out of their cars when moving

I am irked by smokers who flick their butts anywhere. Yes, it's an unhealthy addiction which is becoming increasingly vilified by lawmakers and the wider community. So why can't you carry your completed butt to the nearest bin or carry a little box to put them in, rather than stomping them into the footpath or dropping them oh so nonchalantly into the gutter? And don't tell me you don't think about it or that it doesn't matter. All it does is confirm the stereotype that smokers are inconsiderate polluters.

[Laxi]

smokers are inconsiderate polluters.

some people say that about dirt bike riders too

[cs363]

Yes, you have to watch those stereotypes - they tend to bite you in the ass when you least expect it.... :)

[PrincessBandit]

Had a friend who copped one right in the middle of his jacket while riding down the motorway once, and he was in a mad panic cos it started to smoulder as he was batting at it to get it away. In the end he managed to swat it off before it did further damage.

A few years back we had a small carton hit us in the windscreen, thrown from a car in front of us. When we tried to catch up with the car to let them know we were unimpressed they just hooned it - was a family, carton had been thrown by one of the little toerags in the back seat. What kind of example are they given?????

I hate littering of any kind and must say that objects being launched from a moving vehicle in my line of travel is one thing that gives me the willies. People who biff stuff from their car obviously don't give a shit about the environment or the safety of other road users. Tossers.

Must remember the "chuck it back in their window" trick, if I think I could do it without having the crap beaten out of me.

[cs363]

Had a friend who copped one right in the middle of his jacket while riding down the motorway once, and he was in a mad panic cos it started to smoulder as he was batting at it to get it away. In the end he managed to swat it off before it did further damage.

A few years back we had a small carton hit us in the windscreen, thrown from a car in front of us. When we tried to catch up with the car to let them know we were unimpressed they just hooned it - was a family, carton had been thrown by one of the little toerags in the back seat. What kind of example are they given?????

I hate littering of any kind and must say that objects being launched from a moving vehicle in my line of travel is one thing that gives me the willies. People who biff stuff from their car obviously don't give a shit about the environment or the safety of other road users. Tossers.

Must remember the "chuck it back in their window" trick, if I think I could do it without having the crap beaten out of me.

Agreed, chucking stuff out of car windows is one (bad) thing, but tossing anything into the line of travel of someone behind you is downright dangerous and increases their crime tenfold in my book! Just shows how much of an ignorant tosser they are if they can't even be arsed looking behind them before they do it, you can only hope that Karma catches up with them and one day they do it front of a Police car.

[jtzzr]

As a smoker I would`nt throw the ciggy butts out the window and I certainly wouldn`t throw rubbish of any kind out the window . As for old whiteware?

[Tink]

Must remember the "chuck it back in their window" trick, if I think I could do it without having the crap beaten out of me.

I swear I will get beaten up one day... for opening my mouth at inconsiderate people... luckily I can hide behind the sweet and innocent kids... "wasn't our mum"... :)

I love this thread, and intend on keeping it in the back of my mind ... smoking should be banned in vehicles up with cell phones!!!!!

[cs363]

smoking should be banned in vehicles up with cell phones!!!!!

Careful with that.....where does it stop? Logically then, talking to passengers, eating, changing CD's/radio stations etc., and anything else that could possibly distract the driver should also be banned!
Personally I think it would be far better to start with proper driver training from the outset. It appears to me that most drivers (of all classes of vehicle) in NZ have little or no situational awareness, virtually zero consideration for others along with a host of other bad habits that these 'excuses' only exagerate.

rant over

[shafty]

A (previous) fellow employee once used her Bosses NEW car to go to Ak City. Had told boss when employed that she didn't smoke. She wound down the electric windows to flush out any 'smoke smell" (Boss was a NEW Ex smoker), so when she throws the butt outta the window, it flicks back onto the NEW LEATHER seats in the Honda - BUGGER, and fuckin good job.

We need to get hard on litter full stop, we have a soft cock society!

[Beemer]

We live in the country and have legal access to bore water from the neighbouring farm. Farmer is currently overseas on holiday and has some old fart looking after his place. Monday morning I go out to get the paper and freak out as there are wet boot prints across the top of our drive. I turn around to get my husband to check it out when this guy appears from our back paddock and it turns out he was looking to see if there was a leak in the pipeline on our property. He obviously didn't find it because he was back again yesterday afternoon. I was sitting on the deck reading when I saw him hop over the fence, enveloped in a cloud of smoke. I wasn't impressed as we're non-smokers anyway, but then I saw him chuck his butt in our paddock! I was that pissed off I went out the back and said "in future, could you please NOT throw your butts in our paddock? As non-smokers we do not appreciate having to clean up people's cigarette butts." He didn't look happy but went and picked it up. Fair enough too, we have bloody sheep in that paddock, I don't want it littered with rubbish!

I think that's what pisses me off the most about smokers, their lack of consideration for the by-product of their addiction.

[cs363]

I think that's what pisses me off the most about smokers, their lack of consideration for the by-product of their addiction.

Not getting at you in particular, but everyone needs to be very careful throwing generalisations like that around, remember labelling all smokers as having the same bad habits is as distasteful as labelling all motorcyclists in a similar manner or all women or whatever.
A simple 'some' placed in front of the word smokers makes a whole world of difference. :)

[Tink]

Careful with that.....where does it stop? Logically then, talking to passengers, eating, changing CD's/radio stations etc., and anything else that could possibly distract the driver should also be banned!
Personally I think it would be far better to start with proper driver training from the outset. It appears to me that most drivers (of all classes of vehicle) in NZ have little or no situational awareness, virtually zero consideration for others along with a host of other bad habits that these 'excuses' only exagerate.

rant over

There was a survey done recently that the worst distraction for a driver was:

1. another passenger
2. Car Radio
3. Cell phone..

I am totally in agreement with the passenger thing, but we can't kick them out... so why can't smoking be banned in cars, burn yourself, flick it at a biker, or get distracted lighting it... and its bad for you... ok a little too pc ye... but in hindsight its pretty logical not to smoke in cars... it might help young children not have to suffer their parents cig smoke in vehicles too... I guess I just despise smoking, each to their own as long as its not in my face :hug:

[Tink]

Not getting at you in particular, but everyone needs to be very careful throwing generalisations like that around, remember labelling all smokers as having the same bad habits is as distasteful as labelling all motorcyclists in a similar manner or all women or whatever.
A simple 'some' placed in front of the word smokers makes a whole world of difference. :)

Some smokers don't have bad habits, all smokers smoke which is a bad habit.. but as I say each to their own... :hug:

[Gubb]

Whoar.

Blast from the Past. I've done this twice since then. It's almost become a new past time. I've had another one that i'm not sure how to counter yet though. Had a courier van driver tip half a cup of presumably cold, or bad coffee out his window 2 meters in front of me. Happened to miss me, but i'm not sure how I would have retaliated if it had hit me. Maybe piss through his open window at a stop sign? Van windows are high though.

[DarkLord]

Whoar.

Blast from the Past. I've done this twice since then. It's almost become a new past time. I've had another one that i'm not sure how to counter yet though. Had a courier van driver tip half a cup of presumably cold, or bad coffee out his window 2 meters in front of me. Happened to miss me, but i'm not sure how I would have retaliated if it had hit me. Maybe piss through his open window at a stop sign? Van windows are high though.

You've done it twice since then? :laugh:

Pray tell?

[Squid]

Whoar.

Blast from the Past. I've done this twice since then. It's almost become a new past time..... Maybe piss through his open window at a stop sign? Van windows are high though.


You've done it twice since then? :laugh:

Pray tell?

I'm guessing either returning butts to their owners via the window or been pissing into courier vans. Though the latter does sound like it could almost become a extreme sport.... :eek5:

[sinfull]

Whoar.

Blast from the Past. I've done this twice since then. It's almost become a new past time. I've had another one that i'm not sure how to counter yet though. Had a courier van driver tip half a cup of presumably cold, or bad coffee out his window 2 meters in front of me. Happened to miss me, but i'm not sure how I would have retaliated if it had hit me. Maybe piss through his open window at a stop sign? Van windows are high though.
With a bit of practise anything is possible mate !


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[Mikkel]

I would have thought in these tree-hugging, save-the-world times that the youth of today would be very anal against littering.

I don't understand it.

Yes, that is very difficult to understand. :blink:


Careful with that.....where does it stop? Logically then, talking to passengers, eating, changing CD's/radio stations etc., and anything else that could possibly distract the driver should also be banned!
Personally I think it would be far better to start with proper driver training from the outset. It appears to me that most drivers (of all classes of vehicle) in NZ have little or no situational awareness, virtually zero consideration for others along with a host of other bad habits that these 'excuses' only exagerate.

Exactly. The problem is that people are neither taught how to drive nor how to be responsible about it.

I am not that concerned with people talking on their cellphones - it's the texting that gets to me! That however is enough of a reason to ban everything but handsfree use of cellphones in vehicles.

Ultimately if people are likely to be distracted there will be distractions a plenty to divert their focus from where it should be.

[disturbed]

Ive actually had a car catch fire due to a ciggy being thrown out the window. was driving my dads toyota 4runner and birds frequently nested in the bonnet :bash: was driving along, ciggy sparked just as it hit the ground and shit hit the fan....scary moment

[Beemer]

Not getting at you in particular, but everyone needs to be very careful throwing generalisations like that around, remember labelling all smokers as having the same bad habits is as distasteful as labelling all motorcyclists in a similar manner or all women or whatever.
A simple 'some' placed in front of the word smokers makes a whole world of difference. :)

I have to disagree with you on this point. I have yet to see a smoker carry around a portable ashtray and stub their butt out in that rather than tossing it in the gutter. Sure, if there are outdoor ashtrays around they may use them, but for the most part, if a smoker is smoking outdoors, they are more likely to toss their butts wherever they are. Many ashtrays in smokers cars are empty as they flick their ash and throw their butts out the window.

And - this is NOT a generalisation - but ALL smokers smell, whether it's their breath or their smoke tainted clothes. Ugh!

[Maha]

I have to disagree with you on this point. I have yet to see a smoker carry around a portable ashtray and stub their butt out in that rather than tossing it in the gutter. Sure, if there are outdoor ashtrays around they may use them, but for the most part, if a smoker is smoking outdoors, they are more likely to toss their butts wherever they are. Many ashtrays in smokers cars are empty as they flick their ash and throw their butts out the window.

And - this is NOT a generalisation - but ALL smokers smell, whether it's their breath or their smoke tainted clothes. Ugh!

My ex Mother in law (RIP Pat) use to carry around a little ashtray (a fliptop one) and a small pair of sissors. The Sissors were to cut the end off, cos she would only have a few puffs at a time. She would always smoke outside. A very 'thoughtfull' smoker....if thats th right term?....

[Maha]

I am irked by smokers who flick their butts anywhere. Yes, it's an unhealthy addiction which is becoming increasingly vilified by lawmakers and the wider community. So why can't you carry your completed butt to the nearest bin or carry a little box to put them in, rather than stomping them into the footpath or dropping them oh so nonchalantly into the gutter? And don't tell me you don't think about it or that it doesn't matter. All it does is confirm the stereotype that smokers are inconsiderate polluters.

Same could be said about sneezers!!!
Dirty bastard just sneeze out into the air around them adding approx 3000 germs per sneeze!!!!:bash:
Cover ya fecken mouth ya dirty lazy inconsiderate air polluters.

[cs363]

There was a survey done recently that the worst distraction for a driver was:

1. another passenger
2. Car Radio
3. Cell phone..

I am totally in agreement with the passenger thing, but we can't kick them out... so why can't smoking be banned in cars, burn yourself, flick it at a biker, or get distracted lighting it... and its bad for you... ok a little too pc ye... but in hindsight its pretty logical not to smoke in cars... it might help young children not have to suffer their parents cig smoke in vehicles too... I guess I just despise smoking, each to their own as long as its not in my face :hug:

Totally agree regarding smoking in cars that carry kids, just looking at it from my perspective - I'm a very occasional smoker and one of the few places I do smoke is in my ute which never carries kids and if I had a non smoker with me I wouldn't smoke out of respect. I also have an ashtray in it that I use so we're not in complete disagreement! :) :hug:

[cs363]

I have to disagree with you on this point. I have yet to see a smoker carry around a portable ashtray and stub their butt out in that rather than tossing it in the gutter. Sure, if there are outdoor ashtrays around they may use them, but for the most part, if a smoker is smoking outdoors, they are more likely to toss their butts wherever they are. Many ashtrays in smokers cars are empty as they flick their ash and throw their butts out the window.

And - this is NOT a generalisation - but ALL smokers smell, whether it's their breath or their smoke tainted clothes. Ugh!

Just because you haven't seen it happen doesn't mean that it it doesn't. For instance a responsible smoker (of which I freely admit there are very few) would see that there was no receptacle for butts and ash available and therefore not light up. As an occasional (and probably soon to flag it) smoker it may surprise you to know I can't stand the sight of dirty/full ashtrays or the smell and take some steps towards preventing that, though obviously I can't completely disagree with your last statement.
All I'm saying is be careful with the generalisations, motorcyclists are a minority too who are looked upon by many members of the public in the same way as you obviously look upon smokers.
I'm not disagreeing the fact that many (usually hardened) smokers certainly fit the stereotype you are painting, just not all.

[MadDuck]

I'm guessing either returning butts to their owners via the window or been pissing into courier vans. Though the latter does sound like it could almost become a extreme sport.... :eek5:

Especially for us female bikers :bye:

[Beemer]

Same could be said about sneezers!!!
Dirty bastard just sneeze out into the air around them adding approx 3000 germs per sneeze!!!!:bash:
Cover ya fecken mouth ya dirty lazy inconsiderate air polluters.

Too right - ended up with a cold when we went to Australia a few years ago after this old cow coughed right in my face as I walked towards her a few days earlier.

Good on your ex-MIL too, wish all smokers acted like her.

[Maha]

Too right - ended up with a cold when we went to Australia a few years ago after this old cow coughed right in my face as I walked towards her a few days earlier.

Good on your ex-MIL too, wish all smokers acted like her.

What is with some people!!!!!

I hate it when you walk into a shop (or whatever) and someone is walking out .....Yawning!!!!!.....and you walk into it...ewwwwwwwwww, breath in someone elses yawn.....:sick:

[Lissa]

What is with some people!!!!!

I hate it when you walk into a shop (or whatever) and someone is walking out .....Yawning!!!!!.....and you walk into it...ewwwwwwwwww, breath in someone elses yawn.....:sick:Whats worse are the Anti Comfort Zone people. The type that need to be so close to you when talking that you can feel their breath on your face.... you start to take a step back and they follow... sheez dont they realise when you are out the door on the pavement its time to back off! :D

On topic.. bloody smokers :shutup:

[Mikkel]

My granddad used to smoke filter-less cigarettes. When he was done he'd just roll the butt between his fingers leaving only a few very small scraps of paper and a little bit of tobacco. Quite a difference from the bloody filters that are everywhere.

[Murray]

And while we are at it, what really annoys me is drink cans, bottles etc littering the streets, alleyways, rest areas, countryside etc etc. How many are going to put there hand up and say they have never thrown a can or bottle onto the bombfire or into the neighbours garden or left in a rest area etc etc.

[Beemer]

And while we are at it, what really annoys me is drink cans, bottles etc littering the streets, alleyways, rest areas, countryside etc etc. How many are going to put there hand up and say they have never thrown a can or bottle onto the bombfire or into the neighbours garden or left in a rest area etc etc.

ME! I take every bit of rubbish with me that I have taken to the rest area or elsewhere. If I have a can or bottle of drink, I take it home and put in the recycling at home - or when on holiday, I put it in the rubbish bin. Recycling is a bit of a hassle for us as we live in the country, but we have four bins (milk bottles, other plastic bottles, aluminium and tin cans, and glass, and I take them into town to the recycling depot when they are full.

I once hit my mother quite hard on the arm for throwing something out the window of the car I was driving. I HATE littering and don't care where you are when you end up with rubbish - either take it home or put it in the next bin you come across!

[Squid]

Ive actually had a car catch fire due to a ciggy being thrown out the window. was driving my dads toyota 4runner and birds frequently nested in the bonnet :bash: was driving along, ciggy sparked just as it hit the ground and shit hit the fan....scary moment

So your the reason FMG prints lots of nice little ads warning about bird nests under the bonnet!


And while we are at it, what really annoys me is drink cans, bottles etc littering the streets, alleyways, rest areas, countryside etc etc. How many are going to put there hand up and say they have never thrown a can or bottle onto the bombfire or into the neighbours garden or left in a rest area etc etc.

Thrown a couple of full cans into fires before to make a POP... Dont leave rubbish laying around parks, rest areas etc though. :innocent: