I hate xmas

[fireball]

my rant for today.

I hate xmas, fuck everyone stressing not watching where they are going... to name a few basic not to PC offending things...

3 times this week on the same piece of road ive had trucks pull out in front of me, emergency breaking etc etc to my surprise (not) their comments "sorry was in a hurry, didnt see you) God damn it you are how high off the road and you cant see a biker with lights on bright jacket on FFS

not to mention people running red lights and just being cocks on the road.... any one else having this problem or is it just fucking bad tempered westies?

bring on febuary fuck xmas... stupid waste of time.....

ride safe all watch out for cagers with no brains.

[98tls]

Nope,all good downunder,cant be that bad up there can it?i mean so many of you choose to live up there:yes:thank god:innocent:

[silverado]

You need a hug...

[fireball]

You need a hug...

may need more than that by the end of the week.... :lol:

stupid festive commercial shit stuff rahhhh hate it all....

[Swoop]

I'll be glad when all the fucking x-mas songs finish!

... apart from the one that goes "It's beginning to feel a lot like christmas".
For some weird reason, people don't like it when I sing "It's beginning to feel a lot like syphilis!!".
Then again, my singing has always been shit.:shit:

[McJim]

my rant for today.

I hate xmas, fuck everyone stressing not watching where they are going... to name a few basic not to PC offending things...

3 times this week on the same piece of road ive had trucks pull out in front of me, emergency breaking etc etc to my surprise (not) their comments "sorry was in a hurry, didnt see you) God damn it you are how high off the road and you cant see a biker with lights on bright jacket on FFS

not to mention people running red lights and just being cocks on the road.... any one else having this problem or is it just fucking bad tempered westies?

bring on febuary fuck xmas... stupid waste of time.....

ride safe all watch out for cagers with no brains.

I noticed all that the first time I drove in New Zealand. That was April 2000.

[Big Dog]

Nup, Fucking hate christmas with a passion.

Damned over commercialisation of a religious holiday.

No matter how much you spend or can't spend you just end up feeling selfish and inadequate.

Then the day gets here and you have to look pleased when you get gifts from other people that look suspiciously like re wraps... or worse a such utter crap you think less of them for knowing where to buy such crap.

Fuck Christmas and Fuck Coca~Cola, Maceys and Hallmark for turning it from a religious festival celebrated only with mass into the fiscal behemouth it has become. Good going guys, hope you feel good about increase in suicides this time of year.

[RC1]

wouldnt say i hate xmas but im over it all , do it for my 3 young ones (under 5)

[McJim]

Nup, Fucking hate christmas with a passion.

Damned over commercialisation of a religious holiday.
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It's actually the mid winter festival and predates Christ's birth date by about 6,000 years. It was Hi-Jacked by the Christians when they sent missionaries to Britain to convert (brainwash) the locals. It's only been Christmas for a small percentage of it's existence. I get continually pissed of at the pious claims that it is a Christian celebration.

I got beat up lots by Christians growing up so I tend to walk away when people mention this particular religion.

[fireball]

i just hate it all
fake love fake pressies, me having to smile and pretend i care, happy families pffrt what ever
its all just a big load of bullshit.

[McJim]

i just hate it all
fake love fake pressies, me having to smile and pretend i care, happy families pffrt what ever
its all just a big load of bullshit.

Ah no...that's different...I just realised from your comment that you're going through THAT stage of life so you must be somewhere beteween 16 and 26 :rofl: that's got nothing to do with Christmas it's just hormones.

[Mike748]

my rant for today.

I hate xmas, fuck everyone stressing not watching where they are going... to name a few basic not to PC offending things...

3 times this week on the same piece of road ive had trucks pull out in front of me, emergency breaking etc etc

Yip, this will be my first chance to get out on the bike in ages ....... but where can you go to get away from them when they're heading all directions out of town! :pinch:

[sunhuntin]

only thing i like about xmas is "snoopys christmas" it aint xmas till thats on the radio. but ya can keep the rest of the shit that goes with. agro drivers, agro customers, overworked staff rah rah rah.

been abused at least 3 times this week, all for shit that was purely the fault of the customer. chances are the number is higher, but those are the ones that stand out.
first was someone wanting to use a fuel docket not for my station, and if he read the damn thing, he would have known that.
second was a wanker again not reading the promo sign, then swearing at me for the fact his chips werent on special.
third was tonight, was a prison guard of all things abusing me for my asking for his eft card to hold since the pumps were on prepay. reckons cos hes a prison guard, he can be trusted. also reckons hes in there all the time, and we should trust him. fuck mate, we get over 1000 different faces in every single day, we cant recognise every single one of ya, and as for you being trustworthy cos your a prison guard? if a cop can be a rapist, then a guard can be a crim as well. abusing a staff member for company policy is not the way to gain trust. if i recognise him next time he comes in, im gonna ask for ID as well... just to piss him off some more. ["new policy"]

come the new year, im applying for night fill work at warehouse or somethin... more hours and away from the abusive public face.

its got the point now that im saying hi to people every 5 seconds, and im also worried about being too foul mouthed in public cos it makes my co workers look bad.

[Disco Dan]

Just another day for me. Im working right through the holiday period.

Working my normal shifts, even Christmas day... no biggie.

Have not done christmas shopping yet. Everyone is getting $10 gifts as I have just moved house AND im a scrooge.

[smoky]

yep I pretty much dislike the xmass thing
I try to convince everyone I'm a Hebrew - they don't celebrate Xmass

[NighthawkNZ]

bring on febuary fuck xmas... stupid waste of time.....

I hate xmas to and the sleigh it rode in on...

[Big Dog]

It's actually the mid winter festival and predates Christ's birth date by about 6,000 years. It was Hi-Jacked by the Christians when they sent missionaries to Britain to convert (brainwash) the locals. It's only been Christmas for a small percentage of it's existence. I get continually pissed of at the pious claims that it is a Christian celebration.

I got beat up lots by Christians growing up so I tend to walk away when people mention this particular religion.

Happy nonsecular inter denominational holiday to everybody.

[crashe]

Well I just made a chap a very happy chappie this evening....

I found a wallet lying on the road tonight near my local BP gas station.... (did a quick u-turn and no I didn't run into a cop car) got off the bike and picked it up and checked it out...
Credit cards, drivers license and $60 in cash inside...... so off to the copshop and handed it in...

Cop thanked me and took my number just in case the dude wanted to thank me.

Well one hour later my cell phone rung....... the dude had been to pick up his wallet and rung, me to thank me. And yep he had filled up the car and left the wallet on top of the car and drove off.

Nought worse than loosing your wallet right on xmas and have to deal with getting new cards and license etc.....

So the dude is now having a good xmas, without the stress of having no ID.

[ynot slow]

Well I just made a chap a very happy chappie this evening....

I found a wallet lying on the road tonight near my local BP gas station.... (did a quick u-turn and no I didn't run into a cop car) got off the bike and picked it up and checked it out...
Credit cards, drivers license and $60 in cash inside...... so off to the copshop and handed it in...

Cop thanked me and took my number just in case the dude wanted to thank me.

Well one hour later my cell phone rung....... the dude had been to pick up his wallet and rung, me to thank me. And yep he had filled up the car and left the wallet on top of the car and drove off.

Nought worse than loosing your wallet right on xmas and have to deal with getting new cards and license etc.....

So the dude is now having a good xmas, without the stress of having no ID.

Great to see honest folks still abound,if I lost my wallet I'd hope to keep my personal stuff in it,money would be gone,would piss me off if they took the money and chucked the rest away.At least with my bank if I want an eft pos card they are available on demand,woohoo the TSB.

If I found a wallet I'd hand it in or try to contact person if details are in the wallet,after all what would you want if it happened to you.

[Steam]

Just for you, Fireball. heehee!
Black humour and very non-PC.

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[Maha]

i just hate it all
fake love fake pressies, me having to smile and pretend i care, happy families pffrt what ever
its all just a big load of bullshit.


You must be confusing Election time with some other time!
Christmas can be as stressfull or as relaxing as you make it...nothing fake about it here.

[Paul in NZ]

Well - its easy to see all the negative sides of Christmas - the exploitation by the retailers, the excesses that lead us into foolishness, the high temperatures and impatience, the glossy domestic perfection that none of us will ever live up to....

You don't have to buy into that.

You can decide to take another path and try to presenve the true spirit of both community, family and compassion that can be Christmas.

There are many places you can volunteer your time to help those whom life has dealt a rough hand, little acts of kindness that cost little but mean everything. You have no fiscal responsibility to climb onto the present bandwagon, set yourself free from it - Santa didn't invent expensive presents - the Grinch did, as well as those glossy catalogues.

I love Christmas - I love the old songs (I don't like rappers doing new christmas songs, it aint right), jigsaws, board games, crappy bon bons with the same old dumb jokes and a bottle of fizzy wine. If you can't find christmas this year - its at our place and you are welcome to come and join us - no presents required, just some simple food, drink and a bit of a laugh.

pm me if you want....

[Disco Dan]

my rant for today.

I hate xmas, fuck everyone stressing not watching where they are going... to name a few basic not to PC offending things...

3 times this week on the same piece of road ive had trucks pull out in front of me, emergency breaking etc etc to my surprise (not) their comments "sorry was in a hurry, didnt see you) God damn it you are how high off the road and you cant see a biker with lights on bright jacket on FFS

not to mention people running red lights and just being cocks on the road.... any one else having this problem or is it just fucking bad tempered westies?

bring on febuary fuck xmas... stupid waste of time.....

ride safe all watch out for cagers with no brains.

I gather you wont be buying Toni a christmas present this year? :whistle:

[yungatart]

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I love Christmas - I love the old songs (I don't like rappers doing new christmas songs, it aint right), jigsaws, board games, crappy bon bons with the same old dumb jokes and a bottle of fizzy wine. If you can't find christmas this year - its at our place and you are welcome to come and join us - no presents required, just some simple food, drink and a bit of a laugh.

pm me if you want....

Now, that, folks, is the spirit of Christmas!
That is my type of Christmas...simple, open, fun filled and friendly.
As Paul says, you don't have to buy into all the hype designed to get you to open your wallet. Go looking for the good in Christmas, hell, go putting the good into Christmas, you may be pleasantly surpriesd.

[Mikkel]

I agree - FUCK Christmas!

A more hypocritical consumer driven frenzy I have never ever witnessed. People are stressing like right maniacs and don't give too much thought for their fellow man.

At least it's not that bad here in NZ - try going to Denmark and the shops start trying to bury you in Christmas catalogues from late September onwards.

[Paul in NZ]

I agree - FUCK Christmas!

A more hypocritical consumer driven frenzy I have never ever witnessed. People are stressing like right maniacs and don't give too much thought for their fellow man.

At least it's not that bad here in NZ - try going to Denmark and the shops start trying to bury you in Christmas catalogues from late September onwards.

Whats comsumerisim got to do with christmas?? Nothing if you don't let it....

Vicki and I are just off to mow someones lawn and clear some rubbish - daughter #3 and her boyfriend are helping 'cos I'm still not really too well and still unable to lift much - we are borrowing a friends trailer but have to wait till after lunch as they are doing something similar for someone else this morning... Thats Christmas (well OK I do this shit all year but thats not the point)

If you want to be a grinch - christmas is the perfect excuse but why not just open up your heart and do something, say something or just be NICE for no reason other than you can. Don't expect to get thanked 'cos there is usually no prospect of getting something back in return because most folks are shocked someone will be nice to them and it takes em a while to recover - THATS Christmas....

[Mikkel]

Whats comsumerisim got to do with christmas?? Nothing if you don't let it....

Vicki and I are just off to mow someones lawn and clear some rubbish - daughter #3 and her boyfriend are helping 'cos I'm still not really too well and still unable to lift much - we are borrowing a friends trailer but have to wait till after lunch as they are doing something similar for someone else this morning... Thats Christmas (well OK I do this shit all year but thats not the point)

If you want to be a grinch - christmas is the perfect excuse but why not just open up your heart and do something, say something or just be NICE for no reason other than you can. Don't expect to get thanked 'cos there is usually no prospect of getting something back in return because most folks are shocked someone will be nice to them and it takes em a while to recover - THATS Christmas....

It is good to know that there are good people like you out there.

My point is just that it is absolutely ridiculous how feverently people are pursuing Christmas since they seem to forget what Christmas is about. Oh, that and the fact that the Christmas feast doesn't make much sense on the Southern Hemisphere to begin with. Christmas was placed on the 24th since that was the date of the traditional pagan celebration of mid-Winter Solstice.

Furthermore, people seem to forget about neighbourly love in their stressed out pursuit of the right presents and getting everything done for the holidays... And there is a high degree of irony in that fact.

[LilSel]

Ah no...that's different...I just realised from your comment that you're going through THAT stage of life so you must be somewhere beteween 16 and 26 :rofl: that's got nothing to do with Christmas it's just hormones.

:killingme!!!! haha...

[yungatart]

One of the best gifts I ever received for Christmas was from my eldest daughter when she was 14. She had no part time job, and being the eldest of 6 kids pocket money just did not happen.
She made me a book of vouchers that had an expiry date of 12 months out. In it she put things like washing our car, babysitting, doing the ironing, cooking tea etc. There was 2 of each voucher and they came with a conditon that she could not say no, if I presented the voucher.
It was a gift that cost her nothing but her time and lasted the whole year. She is now 32 and I still remember that little booklet made with love.
I doubt I've ever had a gift that meant so much.

[LilSel]

I think Fireball is anticipating a shit xmas... worrying bout xmas with my family etc... nothing to worry about at all... 'she'll be right'... (I am 100% that she'll enjoy what we get up to)

I do however dislike xmas advertising.... 'how many more days?'... argh... the sylvia park ad on the radio does my head in!!! :lol:...

[LilSel]

I have a couple of friends who dont have family... so she is coming to my familys xmas feed n stuff on xmas day... my mum has even got gifts from 'santa' for her! lol (shes 27)... :niceone: xmas is a time for sharing & goodwill. Even pressies with Fireballs name on them from 'santa' :lol:

Last year I had two mates come spend the day with us... It is what its about... Mum asked me the other day 'is there anymore of your friends who dont have family or someone special to spend the day with?'...


Thats what I like about xmas... sharing what I am fortunate to have with those that are less fortunate, whether it be money, gifts, food, company or family... it makes me smile thats for sure :D

[sunhuntin]

Great to see honest folks still abound,if I lost my wallet I'd hope to keep my personal stuff in it,money would be gone,would piss me off if they took the money and chucked the rest away.At least with my bank if I want an eft pos card they are available on demand,woohoo the TSB.

If I found a wallet I'd hand it in or try to contact person if details are in the wallet,after all what would you want if it happened to you.

dad did the same thing... found a purse on the road. i went through it for id... recognised the surname, as the girl who organised mum and dads aussie trip has the same. took it to cop shop, turns out the girls are cousins, with another relative being a cop! LOL. they were ringing her as we left. there was also a farmers card, which could have easily been maxed out. if thered be no id, the actions would have been the same, but it made it more personal given we know the family somewhat.

[jonbuoy]

Boo! You moaning feckers, a few days off work for most of the adults to get pissed and over eat, a great day for kids to tear into presents, its a lot less hassle if you can get a mutual agreement to not buy presents for anyone other than your partner. Tough titties to anyone who buys for you. Whats to hate?

[sunhuntin]

"few days off work" im working xmas day. would be at boxing day as well if i hadnt booked the day off some 2 months ago. workin all across new years too.

had two old bitches in this morning. no manners from either "do this, do this, do this" and then try and take off without paying for the oil. old bats. still had the money in her hand, the driver did, so she didnt "forget". both well old enough to know bloody better to.

[Trudes]

I'm sorry, but I've always noticed that as much as it would be nice if everything could be fluffy and nice at this time of the year, the reality of it is that generally Xmas breeds a lot of contempt, ill feelings, fights and domestic violence and abuse. Meh.... I'm starting to sound like Jim2!! I'm just getting a bit sick of always being the 'giver' and often don't even get a thank you in return (from certain so called 'family members', probably because I am the 'root of all evil', ah f**k the lot of them.... sorry, just having a little vent, might go get pissed now, as you were). Yep, I hate Xmas too.

[ali]

The stress of a long year seems to weigh heavily on most at this time.

The pressure to buy expensive presents comes from within, not advertisers.

Even though again this year we will have spent too much, I know our 10 year old will get the most joy from the $ 10.00 pair of second hand roller blades.

Perhaps I should feel sorry for those working the stats but as I've had only one day off this year, this is our time to kick back.

Every year we leave our son with family for a couple of days and head to cemetary circuit, were great racing ( and the odd beer ) makes you forget all your troubles.

[Goblin]

The pressure to buy expensive presents comes from within, not advertisers.

Even though again this year we will have spent too much, I know our 10 year old will get the most joy from the $ 10.00 pair of second hand roller blades.
Bollocks! Advertisers are cunning manipulative bastards who prey on small children. The whole "Christmas" thing is marketing and advertising gone stark raving mad! Same with Easter, Halloween and Valentines day. It's all bullshit to keep retailers pockets lined.

Your 10 year old may appear to be happy with a second hand pair of roller blades but deep down inside he/she will be wishing it was more like a $2000 laptop. It's not about the giving...it's ALL about how much you spend. The more you spend...the more you love them.

[fireball]

i do have another point to add.....

why do you need a date to show someone you love them give them gifts or do charity work?
i also have a hate for easter, birthdays and more.
even if LilSel is trying to change my view on things..... she is almost convincing on the birthday thing but time will tell :rolleyes:

i just think you should show your love for a person at any given time not just on the 25th of december.

if that makes sense?!

[Trudes]

i do have another point to add.....

why do you need a date to show someone you love them give them gifts or do charity work?
i also have a hate for easter, birthdays and more.
even if LilSel is trying to change my view on things..... she is almost convincing on the birthday thing but time will tell :rolleyes:

i just think you should show your love for a person at any given time not just on the 25th of december.

if that makes sense?!

I agree (would bling ya, but I ran out of bling for today, I'm blaming Xmas for that too! lol), "good will to man" (and woman), should be every bloody day.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Well - its easy to see all the negative sides of Christmas - the exploitation by the retailers, the excesses that lead us into foolishness, the high temperatures and impatience, the glossy domestic perfection that none of us will ever live up to....

You don't have to buy into that.

You can decide to take another path and try to presenve the true spirit of both community, family and compassion that can be Christmas.

There are many places you can volunteer your time to help those whom life has dealt a rough hand, little acts of kindness that cost little but mean everything. You have no fiscal responsibility to climb onto the present bandwagon, set yourself free from it - Santa didn't invent expensive presents - the Grinch did, as well as those glossy catalogues.

I love Christmas - I love the old songs (I don't like rappers doing new christmas songs, it aint right), jigsaws, board games, crappy bon bons with the same old dumb jokes and a bottle of fizzy wine. If you can't find christmas this year - its at our place and you are welcome to come and join us - no presents required, just some simple food, drink and a bit of a laugh.

pm me if you want....

right on, and good for you.

I only like it for the little-ies , and agree entirely about presents.... all it does is fuel the consumergasm, which isnt a good thing

(unless someone wants to give me a Triumph 675 or scrambler, in which case presents rule!)

[skidMark]

my rant for today.

I hate xmas, fuck everyone stressing not watching where they are going... to name a few basic not to PC offending things...

3 times this week on the same piece of road ive had trucks pull out in front of me, emergency breaking etc etc to my surprise (not) their comments "sorry was in a hurry, didnt see you) God damn it you are how high off the road and you cant see a biker with lights on bright jacket on FFS

not to mention people running red lights and just being cocks on the road.... any one else having this problem or is it just fucking bad tempered westies?

bring on febuary fuck xmas... stupid waste of time.....

ride safe all watch out for cagers with no brains.


i don't get why people complain about cars pulling out 3 times? in a week?

i get at least 30 -50 cars per day pull out....thats with lights on...i just ride defensively.

2 fingers always covering the front brake lever....

and in a low enough gear to accelarate out of the way if there isnt enough room/ time to brake.

so 3rd gear usually is sufficient.

[soundbeltfarm]

i love christmas and couldn't give a toss whether people like it or not it's your choice.
its when im allowed to buy the beer i like,
kids get alot of time off school to do jobs on farm for me .
i do get a bit sick of the tunes all the time and if i look at it from some one that works in a shop dealing with heaps of people sure it would be a pain.
all my sisters come down to the naki and it prob the only time of year we are all together with my olds.
we have a hangi most years and get all the hangers on which is bloody great.
we have 2 people come every year because they have no family and it is bloody great to have them here with us.
most of the others that come are our friends and some of my parents friends.
maybe because i live out of town a bit i am sheltered from all the hustle of town.
but we are hectic too as we have either been out or had people for the for the last 9 nights and mate i wouldn't change it for the world.
every year i make the kids take one unopened present from under the tree and we take it to the womens refuge for the kids there and it's great that this year they were the first to bring it up to us that when are we taking the presents in.
yep i sure do love this time of year.

[99TLS]

i have 3 little kids and love to see them opening there prezzies, thats what it about for me

[Dave-]

I work in riccarton mall.

almost 3 times today I very nearly had my head ripped off because someone couldnt print their photos right now this second.

we have 6 machines, and some fuckwit goes "you people need to get more machines!"

then there's the general bad tempers

but then isn't xmas supose to be about having fun? loving your friends and family, and being generally nicer than usual? but people go to such unhappy lengths (aparently at my fault) to make themselves and familys happy.

then you have to define happy, the comercial and mega social image of husband, wife, 3 kids and the dog early in the morning on the 25th smiling and recieving the exact gifts they each wanted in the perfect colour and working exactly how they want them to? what about the perfect tree, and the snow? WHATS THAT? YOU LIVE IN A SOUTHERN HEMISPHERE SUB TROPICAL COASAL CITY?!?! better buy some fake snow to look like shit in the 25 degree weather, and every year they fail utterly to meet this unreal expectation.

then you have to ask if you can be "nice" for the week leading up to xmas why the fuck is it so hard to be nice for the other 51 weeks of the year? if it's such a fucking effort for you to fail to be "nice" then don't bother.

[tri boy]

Make a simple gift. Wrap it. Leave it at the base of a Pohutakawa, (in bloom). Walk away.
Have a nice festive season people.:sunny:

[Big Dog]

I have to admit. I have ulterior motives for hating on christmas.
Reason one:
One year we returned to school to find that six of our number would never return.
Seperate drink driving incidents, none of them had been drinking.
Reason two:
I don't get to see my kids.

I quite like the spending of time with family - even though they are not my blood.
I just wish that when I buy the most thoughtful gift I can manage they did not look like I just pissed in the pudding. Or worse sit there staring at it wondering either a) what is this? b) why on earth would he think I want one of those.

[homer]

my rant for today.

I hate xmas, fuck everyone stressing not watching where they are going... to name a few basic not to PC offending things...

3 times this week on the same piece of road ive had trucks pull out in front of me, emergency breaking etc etc to my surprise (not) their comments "sorry was in a hurry, didnt see you) God damn it you are how high off the road and you cant see a biker with lights on bright jacket on FFS

not to mention people running red lights and just being cocks on the road.... any one else having this problem or is it just fucking bad tempered westies?

bring on febuary fuck xmas... stupid waste of time.....

ride safe all watch out for cagers with no brains.

Havnt read all the thread yet and i will do
but i totally agree
i do nothing for anyone at xmas
ill go fishing at some stage and then home and ill be cooking some steak and bacon and what ever else
fishing on boxing day to

yeah i agree its a fucken waste of time money and anything else you can think of
:whocares:

[Goblin]

ill go fishing at some stage and then home and ill be cooking some steak and bacon and what ever else
fishing on boxing day to
So you dont have much luck with the fishing either huh?

[inlinefour]

Well. Last year I was stuck in ICU with a tube stuck down my throat to help me breath and another smaller tube stuck up my nose which fed & watered me (although I doubt anyone here would agree that the glop was actually food). We had a small family get together and everyone else got to eat & drink. We all opened presents, but all I really wanted was a long cold drink of water from the water cooler by the Nursing station.
This year we are having a similar small family get together. BUT I can eat and drink, which I am VERY greatfull for. There was a time that I wondered if I was ever going to be able to breathe independantly. I can now and are VERY happy about it. As for the presents? Who cares? Got something small/not too expensive for everyone and if I get something, its a bonus. Enjoy the time you have because you have no control over when its time to end.
As for all the moaning and whinging on this thread about Christmas? Sounds like a bunch of individuals who are pissy that they do not get what they used to as a kid. Because as far as I'm concerned, thats what its all about (Christmas is for the children) and getting together with significant others.
So likewise, if there is anyone here in the naki who has no where to go, give me a PM and I'll tell you how to get here. All you need to bring is something nice to eat, that can be put on the table with everything else.
I must admit, that when I worked in one of the local butcheries, I was happy to get to the end of the silly season. However each time someone came in and spat the dummy, we kept a straight face and once the person had left we all pissed ourselves with laughter!
Get angry about it being Christmas? Why? What is it that your really angry about? :baby:

[ynot slow]

Xmas is what you remember as kids,enjoying fun with cousins at the grandparents,opening presents as early as can be.

The fact you can enjoy xmas is the best thing about it,being with family and friends is worth more than dollars.

Four years ago I had an injection which was infusing chemo 24hrs into my blood stream,and undergoing radiation,had 5 weeks to go.Met some grumpy old coots as well,most were bloody good fun people with one thing in common.Wasn't hard to see someone worse off,and realise xmas is not about monetry things.I was told prior to surgery I was lucky and after the operation,was told that I would have been dead by xmas(2003)if I hadn't taken the advice of loved ones and got my stubborn arse into the doctors,and got checked out.

The best part of xmas is watching the kids open their presents which is all to quickly over as they age,but now seeing my step grandkids open their presents is cool(8,6 and 9mths),having a good old bbq for lunch and few beers.

I work in retail and wonder why people buy things at xmas,although over the years the emphasis in furniture is anytime,not so much at xmas.Even the fact that kids now get vouchers for the warehouse is a sign of the times,with boxing day sales,hopefully this trend will vanish,surely people can go two days without shopping,but it is our number one passtime.

All I can say is those $2 and similar shops are good for kids,heaps to buy and cheap,I'd rather give 5 or so cheap gifts than one larger one.

[Mr Merde]

It's actually the mid winter festival and predates Christ's birth date by about 6,000 years. It was Hi-Jacked by the Christians when they sent missionaries to Britain to convert (brainwash) the locals. It's only been Christmas for a small percentage of it's existence. I get continually pissed of at the pious claims that it is a Christian celebration.

I got beat up lots by Christians growing up so I tend to walk away when people mention this particular religion.

Originally the birth of Christ was attributed to the month of April. About the 4th century there was a general conclave held under the papacy of Gregory. It was there that they decided to move the time of the birth to December so as to attempt to obscure the pagan festival of that month.

Until the late middel age it wasnt even celebrated, even by the church. It was a minor date in the Christian year.

Since Victorian times it has been gradually eroded until today it is no more than a commercial venture and a national holiday.

[Edbear]

Bollocks! Advertisers are cunning manipulative bastards who prey on small children. The whole "Christmas" thing is marketing and advertising gone stark raving mad! Same with Easter, Halloween and Valentines day. It's all bullshit to keep retailers pockets lined..

Funny that...



(well OK I do this shit all year but thats not the point)....


Actually, I think that is the point...



i do have another point to add.....

why do you need a date to show someone you love them give them gifts or do charity work? ...i just think you should show your love for a person at any given time not just on the 25th of december.

if that makes sense?!


See above...



i have 3 little kids and love to see them opening there prezzies, thats what it about for me


I'll never forget the reaction from our eldest daughter when she was 13 and had put up with an old Raleigh 20 while her school mates were on the new 10sp bikes. She knew we were poor and had said she really didn't mind the teasing as she knew we were doing our best. One day, she came home from school and went to her room to find a brand new 10sp mountain bike. I'd been determined somehow to buy her one because of her attitude and managed to get it. It wasn't her birthday, or Xmas, just a gift at the time I could afford it and because I wanted to. Her reaction was absolutely priceless and she has never forgotten it.

That is what, and when, gift-giving should be all about. Not because it is expected of you.



I have to admit. I have ulterior motives for hating on christmas.
Reason one:
One year we returned to school to find that six of our number would never return.
Seperate drink driving incidents, none of them had been drinking.
Reason two:
I don't get to see my kids.

I quite like the spending of time with family - even though they are not my blood.
I just wish that when I buy the most thoughtful gift I can manage they did not look like I just pissed in the pudding. Or worse sit there staring at it wondering either a) what is this? b) why on earth would he think I want one of those.


For far too many, Xmas is a painful reminder of what they cannot have or do, or the loved one's they have lost, and stress and pressure at a time that should be happy. I personally resent the commercialisation of a religious falsehood and refuse to participate on principle. We have a very close family, both immediate and wider and spend a lot of time enjoying each other's company and we probably spend too much on gifts at all times of the year, but we're happy and free of the stress of the demands of such public holidays.

I do wish all a safe and happy holiday, or for those working through, my commiserations, I'll think of you when I'm out on the bike...

[NighthawkNZ]

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?p=868488&postcount=24

[2strokegirl]

we have decided to cancel xmas next year. just have the big family dinner.
havent even put a tree up yet.

[Hawkeye]

bah! humbug!

[Smokin]

Christmas is bloody fantastic, Kids bouncing off the walls with excitement and I'm not that far behind them.
The look on my kids faces Christmas morning is just awesome and I will do my best to make sure the Christmas spirit lives on with their children.

Anyone that doesn't like Christmas should perhaps try putting a little effort into it, Get together with family and friends, Dig the gorse out of your pockets and have a bloody big BBQ tea and put on a few drinks, I'm sure the laughs will follow and some fond memory's will be revived.

I know my family will be having a ball tomorrow and it may just carry on to the wee small hours or until the belly can't hold anymore.

The holidays are just an added bonus. :clap:

Grinch's may flame me if they wish.

Merry Christmas to you all.

Smokin

[NighthawkNZ]

Anyone that doesn't like Christmas should perhaps try putting a little effort into it,


Don't want to, can't make me...

[Smokin]

Don't want to, can't make me...

Don't worry, be happy.

[fireball]

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?p=868488&postcount=24
:niceone: that is approved!

[Grahameeboy]

It's actually the mid winter festival and predates Christ's birth date by about 6,000 years. It was Hi-Jacked by the Christians when they sent missionaries to Britain to convert (brainwash) the locals. It's only been Christmas for a small percentage of it's existence. I get continually pissed of at the pious claims that it is a Christian celebration.

I got beat up lots by Christians growing up so I tend to walk away when people mention this particular religion.

I'll give ya a hug.

I am Christian but agree plus there is debate as to date anyway given position of Star at 2000 years ago, but I guess you have to move through all that and just enjoy the one time of the year when Family / Friends get together.

[fireball]

I have to admit. I have ulterior motives for hating on christmas.
Reason one:
One year we returned to school to find that six of our number would never return.
Seperate drink driving incidents, none of them had been drinking.
Reason two:
I don't get to see my kids.

I quite like the spending of time with family - even though they are not my blood.
I just wish that when I buy the most thoughtful gift I can manage they did not look like I just pissed in the pudding. Or worse sit there staring at it wondering either a) what is this? b) why on earth would he think I want one of those.

i agree with you bigdog......

and ive just been informed i need to get strawberries

[janno]

Well, I'm having a fantastic Christmas this year. I made whiskey fudge and coffee slice, and that's what everyone is getting for pressies. It's so much nicer when you don't have the stress of worrying what to buy someone. And as i don't have kids I can get away with it.

I'm not religious, but even I am fed up with the buy, buy, buy mantra. And now it seems that Christmas is all about the fesival of "Santa".

This is family and friends time for me, and after a most unpleasant year that was 2007, I'm so grateful for both. Including the froot loops on KB. :grouphug:

[fireball]

ok well as promised i am making an attempt to enjoy xmas this year.....
so tomorrow morning with a smile on my face drink in my hand i will be giving LilSels family xmas idea a go....

going to be a weird one i dont even know what a family is throwing myself in the deep end here.

as for the rest of you.. enjoy tomorrow as much as you can if not just smile and get drunk (no riding!)

so off i go out east strawberries and LilSels present in the backpack

have a good one and merry fucking xmas to you all.:yes:<--- thats my attempted smile!

[Maha]

have a good one and merry fucking xmas to you all.:yes:<--- thats my attempted smile!


Here something for ya i prepeared earlier.....taken about 7am today.....:mellow:

[MadDuck]

Wheres my damn chain saw !!!!

[Big Dog]

ok well as promised i am making an attempt to enjoy xmas this year.....
Yet another year of trying to keep a happy face on even when I don't feel it.

I may bail halfway and be by my selves for a while.

Right now I don't feel much like acknowledging Christmas beyond one person who is not even particularly nice to me but whom I thought I would plunge my life savings into buying a bike jacket for. Don't care if he does not appreciate it. I just know I had the means and opportunity to do the right thing, so the right thing was done.

Given half a choice I would walk away and never come back at this point.
Can't say I have ever been this low before.

[Big Dog]

Please note: it will not help any for any bleeding heart to get on this forum and try to make me feel better.

In fact that would probably push me out into traffic at the moment.

[janno]

Well in that case, I hope you have signed up to be an organ donor. I for one could use a healthy kidney that may not be wanted or appreciated.

[Maha]

Wheres my damn chain saw !!!!

No illegal activety around here please Duckie!.....:shifty:
Feel the love in this thread....wheres 007XX in moments of such crisis!!!

[MSTRS]

It's actually the mid winter festival and predates Christ's birth date by about 6,000 years.

I got beat up lots by Christians growing up so I tend to walk away when people mention this particular religion.
Yep. The Christians moved the reason to Easter (hope & rebirth). But can't have the pagans festival-less so we now have Xmas.
And no, you were beaten up by small-minded bigots who wouldn't know a Christian if one sat on them.

Well I just made a chap a very happy chappie this evening....

I found a wallet lying on the road tonight near my local BP gas station....
Good onya Crashe. Don't need Xmas to do a good deed, eh?

Whats consumerisim got to do with christmas?? Nothing if you don't let it....

If you can't find christmas this year - its at our place and you are welcome to come and join us - no presents required, just some simple food, drink and a bit of a laugh.

And THAT is what Xmas is about...you:headbang:




....xmas is a time for sharing & goodwill. Even pressies with Fireballs name on them from 'santa' :lol:

Last year I had two mates come spend the day with us... It is what its about... Mum asked me the other day 'is there anymore of your friends who dont have family or someone special to spend the day with?'...


Thats what I like about xmas... sharing what I am fortunate to have with those that are less fortunate, whether it be money, gifts, food, company or family... it makes me smile thats for sure :DYour Mum sounds like she knows exactly what Xmas is about and because of that, so do you. Does Santa include batteries?:innocent:




then you have to ask if you can be "nice" for the week leading up to xmas why the fuck is it so hard to be nice for the other 51 weeks of the year? if it's such a fucking effort for you to fail to be "nice" then don't bother.
Exactly.


Get angry about it being Christmas? Why? What is it that your really angry about? Insecurities??


ok well as promised i am making an attempt to enjoy xmas this year.....
so tomorrow morning with a smile on my face drink in my hand i will be giving LilSels family xmas idea a go....

going to be a weird one i dont even know what a family is throwing myself in the deep end here.


Good start. You will find that it isn't that hard to have and share a good time. You do that with your mates throughout the year, don't you?

And to that other poster... Happy Hannukah. http://clf.uua.org/betweensundays/earlychildhood/Hannukah_background.html

[skidMark]

No illegal activety around here please Duckie!.....:shifty:
Feel the love in this thread....wheres 007XX in moments of such crisis!!!


sharing secrets about you with your wife :bleh: lol

[Mom]

Wheres my damn chain saw !!!!

Rotflmao! Naughty girl....Stop being so tough and come drink the wine with me...:love:


ok well as promised i am making an attempt to enjoy xmas this year.....

Darlin, Christmas for me has changed so much over the years. I have vague Santa came memoriesfrom my childhood, which I have tried to maintain. There have been horrible years (working always was a better option). When my babies were little I went all out to give them the magic that is Xmas.

Tonight, I am waiting for my son to get here, bursting to hug him actually! He will be off to the pub after that to catch up with his mates :sunny: My big girl is off at her fiances parents house, I wont see her (first year without my big girl), my youngest is here until 9am tomorrw. I wont see my lovely other kids, but we will talk. My Mom is not well enough for me to go and pick her up (2.5 hrs drive) so boxing day we go visit there.

I will wake up tomorrow with the excitement of a child, I have seen pressies under the tree with my name on! I get to tell my man I love him to bits, there are presents to be opened and hugs to be given and if I am lucky phone conversations with my big family overseas. Once the kids have gone, it will be Maha and me :sunny: with any luck we will get the drop in friends, if not be assured we will make the most of the day!



Please note: it will not help any for any bleeding heart to get on this forum and try to make me feel better.

In fact that would probably push me out into traffic at the moment.

Fine then, dont feel better! Xmas sucks!!!!!!!! I am not actually being sarcastic either!! It can suck!! Have personally experienced a few suck arse ones myself. Have the best day you can mate!

[99TLS]

kids just gone to bed but not asleep yet, there trying to stay awake to see santee

[fireball]

Please note: it will not help any for any bleeding heart to get on this forum and try to make me feel better.

In fact that would probably push me out into traffic at the moment.

if you want to take the busa for a spin you have my number.....
and dont have work till thursday there is alot of road......

[Big Dog]

Well in that case, I hope you have signed up to be an organ donor. I for one could use a healthy kidney that may not be wanted or appreciated.

Yup, and I have never missed an opportunity to share with my loved ones that I don't give a shit what other people want, some one come all just don't put them on trademe...
Have good eyes, kidneys, liver, lungs better than average and the heart of horse.

When I turn toes up feel free.

Hell if you need one now and your a match you can have one, provided we can find enough sponsors to cover my time off work. If you want both you will need to wait your turn. Can't think of a bigger waste than to bury perfectly good organs.

[Big Dog]

Hell if you need one now and your a match you can have one, provided we can find enough sponsors to cover my time off work.
Perfectly serious offer. Would be nice to help out a stranger instead of being expected to by family and friends.

[rainman]

so tomorrow morning with a smile on my face drink in my hand i will be giving LilSels family xmas idea a go....

going to be a weird one i dont even know what a family is throwing myself in the deep end here.

as for the rest of you.. enjoy tomorrow as much as you can if not just smile and get drunk (no riding!)

Oooh. Learning experience ahead. My advice to you is that you follow your own advice and just get drunk (no riding!)

Extended family christmasses are just the weirdest... at least mine always were.

Best of luck!

[janno]

Perfectly serious offer. Would be nice to help out a stranger instead of being expected to by family and friends.

unfortunately in aus and NZ you can only have a live donor from a relative or close family friend of some years standing - then they bitch about the lack of donors! Also they do extensive psych tests on the donor so if they feel you are suffering from depression or other similar stuff they won't do it either.

Which is frustrating cos my family can cover a compatible donors cost. And that is also illegal. (Though people just do it on the QT). So not only is a live donor expected to be the above criteria, they are also somehow expected to donate six - eight weeks mortgage and living costs themselves.

I like Christmas, but I hate with a passion the fnargled up NZ health system.

Thanks for the offer though.

[fireball]

and the DRINKING BEGINS!:apint:

[fireball]

party out west tonight at my place anyone welcome!
fuck xmas :lol:

[Smokin]

kids just gone to bed but not asleep yet, there trying to stay awake to see santee

My kids put themselves to bed at 7.30, when asked why I'm told that it makes Christmas eve shorter and Christmas get's here faster.

Damn I miss being a kid.

[ynot slow]

unfortunately in aus and NZ you can only have a live donor from a relative or close family friend of some years standing - then they bitch about the lack of donors! Also they do extensive psych tests on the donor so if they feel you are suffering from depression or other similar stuff they won't do it either.

Which is frustrating cos my family can cover a compatible donors cost. And that is also illegal. (Though people just do it on the QT). So not only is a live donor expected to be the above criteria, they are also somehow expected to donate six - eight weeks mortgage and living costs themselves.

I like Christmas, but I hate with a passion the fnargled up NZ health system.

Thanks for the offer though.

Bugger of a system we have,especially as a donor on license it can be overturned by family.Know of a guy who died,he ended up giving most of his organs as was a donor,his family recieved replies via doctors from people with his cornea,lungs,heart,family were rapt and proud of their dad,who died by accident.

Have an auntie who wanted to donate her liver a few years ago,was told don't do it,now she has serious probs with it,not bloody fair, awseome lady too,why the fuck does this happen to the best people,I was brought up believing (and do)in a God,if there is one,why does he do things like this,and let pricks steal presents etc.

[Big Dog]

unfortunately in aus and NZ you can only have a live donor from a relative or close family friend of some years standing - then they bitch about the lack of donors! Also they do extensive psych tests on the donor so if they feel you are suffering from depression or other similar stuff they won't do it either.

Which is frustrating cos my family can cover a compatible donors cost. And that is also illegal. (Though people just do it on the QT). So not only is a live donor expected to be the above criteria, they are also somehow expected to donate six - eight weeks mortgage and living costs themselves.

I like Christmas, but I hate with a passion the fnargled up NZ health system.

Thanks for the offer though.

I lived in the Naki for many years and my doctor and the counselors I tried in the past, none of them believe I am depressed if either of those factors help.

Also what about going to a free trade county say U.S?

I tend to bit of a safety Sam and play by the rules a lot but the above rules are stupid.

[Big Dog]

why does he do things like this,and let pricks steal presents etc.
Without hardship and adversity we cannot appreciate the good times.
Without "pricks" we could not appreciate the good people in our lives.

[Disco Dan]

Gah... christmas sucked.

Turned up to work after getting drenched in the farked up NZ weather... then everyone was really loud and shouting merry christmas at me like machinegun fire... all the while extremely repetitive old christmas songs on the stereo blaring away... hid away in the office and read the notes to get up to speed and waited for the last shift of people to clear off.. then radio went off.. smile painted on and I started my work. Gah...

[fireball]

well that was fun.....

now the bull shit of new years to go and its all over for this year... thank god.....

bad play on words eh.

[Disco Dan]

well that was fun.....

now the bull shit of new years to go and its all over for this year... thank god.....

bad play on words eh.

Yep almost gone for another year.

Told people at work I would swap shifts if they wanted the night off since im not working that night, just the morning. They all looked at me like I was on drugs.

Meh.