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mitchilin
23rd December 2007, 20:35
Went for a quick ride today and everything was normal.Coming home the temperture was lower than normal(71c) when it runs about 84c.The bike wouldn't idle properly and at low revs she was missing and farting about.A decent fistful she would be sweet but part throttle a pig. Motor would die coasting into corners and with a big v twin thats a little scary.I'm thinking of changing plugs.Anyone got any better ideas?

cowpoos
23rd December 2007, 20:49
my tl1000s ran like that till it hit 80c + always fart and spit and act like a prick till it got to temp...I think the way the motor is acting may just be a synmptom...the problem is its just not getting up to operating temp...maybe thermostat is buggered? I say riding it tomorrow?? or ring suzi dealer tomorrow?

RC1
23rd December 2007, 20:54
yeah my tl not happy until warmed up to about 83-84 ,ride it before that and she not happy, :oi-grr:

mitchilin
23rd December 2007, 20:58
Yeah ,I think your on to it.I give it a good thrash to get above 80 and she's right but runs like a pig below that temp.Funny thing is I cranked her up after getting her home and she sounds like normal.Even after some motorway running,take it into town instead of the temp climbing its dropping.Thermostat?

Monsterbishi
23rd December 2007, 21:00
I'd be pulling the thermostat and checking/replacing it before it siezes shut instead of open...

RC1
23rd December 2007, 21:00
would pay to get it checked out me thinks:2thumbsup

mitchilin
23rd December 2007, 21:13
Thanks guys.I'll consult the manual.Caning the hell out of it to get the correct opperating temp is not gonna do my license any good at all.As a quick by note I thought they had slipper clutches?Is a quick chirp from the rear tyre normal?

cowpoos
23rd December 2007, 21:30
Thanks guys.I'll consult the manual.Caning the hell out of it to get the correct opperating temp is not gonna do my license any good at all.As a quick by note I thought they had slipper clutches?Is a quick chirp from the rear tyre normal?
slipper clutches are not 100% slipping...and with the compression breaking of a large vtwin they are working pretty hard...I used to have my one flexing its swingarm under engine and braking into corners...so I was told bu those behind me...all I felt was a wooble!!...matching the revs on down shifts is the proper technique on any bike really..and a excellent one to master.

feral1
23rd December 2007, 21:50
Mitchillin,

I had a TL1000Sv from '97. NZ new (2nd container load of ten in the country). Rode it all over NZ and had it for over 6 years. Bitchin bike. Grouse power. Good cams. They are the nicest vintage man. The models got slightly dumbed down in subsequent years.
It had several factory recalls tho; new ecu (x2), new tank, steering dampner and a different thermostat.
They ran slightly cold (like what you describe) and some of us had RGV250 thermostats fitted (bout '95-'97 model from memory).
But i suspect on yours the themostat is just clapped. Best get a new one. Suzuki NZ will probably hook you up with a later model TL one.

Good luck
Feral

spudchucka
24th December 2007, 04:35
TL100s problem

Looks like you've lost your other 899cc.

Fargin Khan
24th December 2007, 05:36
My TL was a 97 and one mod that was done to it was moving the position of the coolant temp. sensor. Original placement is in the radiator but that would read to cool for the ecu unless you were either riding very slow (no fun) or giving it shit. A small alloy boss was made and tapped to the same thread as the sensor. the boss was fitted into the top of the thermostat housing (alloy welded). Huge difference on warm up (much smoother) and no stalling on warm up at intersections. Might be worth a try.

oldguy
24th December 2007, 08:18
Went for a quick ride today and everything was normal.Coming home the temperture was lower than normal(71c) when it runs about 84c.The bike wouldn't idle properly and at low revs she was missing and farting about.A decent fistful she would be sweet but part throttle a pig. Motor would die coasting into corners and with a big v twin thats a little scary.I'm thinking of changing plugs.Anyone got any better ideas?
I had the same problem with the VTR thou, if you don't get her up to temp, she would do all that shit, it dump me once.
Raining, cold, I'm in a hurry, didn't bother to warm her up, str8 out me garage up the road, get to the top of my street intersection, turn start too accelerate away pull the clutch in to hook another gear the engine stalls road wet next thing I know I'm fish tailing then on my ass on the road, going f**k f**K f**K in my head.
The same thing applies with the Buell if not more so, if shes not up to temp she displays the same symptoms.

maybe a V twin thing

98tls
24th December 2007, 14:02
slipper clutches are not 100% slipping...and with the compression breaking of a large vtwin they are working pretty hard...I used to have my one flexing its swingarm under engine and braking into corners...so I was told bu those behind me...all I felt was a wooble!!...matching the revs on down shifts is the proper technique on any bike really..and a excellent one to master. Could always fit a GSXR one as Les has done.

imdying
26th December 2007, 12:27
Yeah, if your thermostat is holding open, it'll do that.

As an aside, the SVs don't suffer from running funny when they're cold... they just run like a Corolla... turn the key and it runs without any hiccups straight off the bat... nice when you can actually see a tangible benefit to the newer injection systems.

mitchilin
26th December 2007, 16:12
Thanks for all the advice everyone.I don't know why I didn't suspect the thermostat first.It seems so logical now.Took the bike out today and she's back to normal.I'll change the thermostat as soon as I can.

n0regret5
16th February 2008, 17:32
what year is it? any exhaust mods or anything? i have a 99 with two bros pipes and i can ride away at 30c no worries, it'll stall below that, but.

heres an issue..anyone elses battery slowly draining unless you ride like your arse is on fire? it seems through the week it gets worse till its so flat it resets the FI when starting on cold mornings..after about an hour of open road riding (*ahem* 140+) its just fine, starts first button blip. perhaps its a fucked battery?

Morcs
16th February 2008, 18:46
If you are having problems, crank on the ''choke'' (fast idle) a little bit so the revs dont drop right down to stalling point.

I do it in the morning when I dont want to have the bike running for 10 minutes warming up, stops it from cutting out till upto temp,

n0regret5
17th February 2008, 10:11
If you are having problems, crank on the ''choke'' (fast idle) a little bit so the revs dont drop right down to stalling point.

I do it in the morning when I dont want to have the bike running for 10 minutes warming up, stops it from cutting out till upto temp,

-i also do this. cos its not a choke it won't flood your engine..learnt it from TLforums. go FI!

Morcs
17th February 2008, 11:10
-i also do this. cos its not a choke it won't flood your engine..learnt it from TLforums. go FI!

Its great. Crank it on in 6th, and take your hands off the bars :devil2:

n0regret5
17th February 2008, 11:12
Its great. Crank it on in 6th, and take your hands off the bars :devil2:

now THAT is a cool idea..toodle, all..i'm off for a ride! MWAHAHAHA!