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swanman
7th November 2004, 20:02
God this is driving me mad I have been biking for 19 years and I still can't do a wheelie!

I have owned all sorts of bikes from 2 strokers to full on big sport bikes, and I still cannot do one. It comes from lack of balls, fear of dropping it and ultimatley lack of knowledge.

I recently bought an '04 R1 shit this is a fast bike, in fact I even managed a couple of impromptu power wheelies (wheel a foot off the ground) at Puke couple of weeks ago. At full thrust the front skips along the road all the way until your are doing well over 200kmh. So this bike should be a piece of piss to wheelie on.

So how do I do it? In a safe controlled manner and preferably at sensible speeds i.e. less than 100kmh? Really I think I need someone to show me, on a quiet straight bit of road. I really need to crack this one.

Antallica
7th November 2004, 20:05
With that bike, yeah piece of piss mate.

Search a while back to find some other threads on this topic :) Some info there I believe.

Two Smoker
7th November 2004, 20:07
On that sized bike, speeds for wheelies will generally be between 100-200kmh,

Always cover the rear brake (so if you go past the balance point, dab the rear brake to put the front down....) and never take your feet of the pegs..

Now to get it up a couple of method will work on the R1, first being rip the throttle open in 2nd gear and give the bars a little tug, second, roll of the throttle and then snap it back on, and third, clutch it up (which shouldnt be needed on a R1)

Im sure Death Inc. will show you how to wheelie.... i havnt met, or seen anyone in NZ do better wheelies than him.....

Joni
7th November 2004, 20:08
With that bike, yeah piece of piss mate.

Search a while back to find some other threads on this topic :) Some info there I believe.

Yeah there is quite a bit of stuff written about the topic...

We dont live that far from each other... Ive seen you on the road... damn nice bike mate. :niceone:

swanman
7th November 2004, 20:16
Thanks for the quick replies guys it's nice to know that there is an active community out there.

Joni you should say hello next time you see me I'll keep an eye out for your bike.

Wacking the throttle open in 2nd yep I've had a few little goes at that and have got the front end light or just off the ground, but not right up. Maybe I should be more aggressive. Things is I am already going at quite a rate when I do this.

I'll look back for more info.

I still think someone's going to have to show me. :)

SPman
7th November 2004, 20:17
Im sure Death Inc. will show you how to wheelie.... i havnt met, or seen anyone in NZ do better wheelies than him.....
Sam ???????

Joni
7th November 2004, 20:20
Thanks for the quick replies guys it's nice to know that there is an active community out there.

Joni you should say hello next time you see me I'll keep an eye out for your bike.

Wacking the throttle open in 2nd yep I've had a few little goes at that and have got the front end light or just off the ground, but not right up. Maybe I should be more aggressive. Things is I am already going at quite a rate when I do this.

I'll look back for more info.

I still think someone's going to have to show me. :)

If you want someone to show you, the king of wheelies IMO is Death Inc... that man can hold it up for so long! You should PM him...

Death: :not:

Two Smoker
7th November 2004, 20:20
Sam ???????
Good point, i would love for them to have a wheelie competition :not: :yes:

Yamahamaman
7th November 2004, 20:29
You are not the dude that was behind me on Don Bucks Road on Saturday morning are you. I was on my Silver (flame) R6.

JohnBoy
7th November 2004, 20:30
hey how about this??
a guy i meet the other week showed me his wheelie skills, not half bad. around corners and down the full length of the street (say about 30-40 meters). you might think that this sounds a little soft, but he was riding a AZ50 suzuki scooter!!
hmm, an R1 should be able to stand up, just give it a few more herbs in 1st and sit back a bit.

Mr Skid
7th November 2004, 20:30
Thought about getting a cheap bike that you won't care about binning lots? Such as a fxr150 / gn125 / or a generic dirt bike.

You could get the hang of wheelies/stoppies at low speeds, then transfer the skills to your R1..

(Says he who has only got the front airbone twice in his life, once at a basic handling skills test :whistle: )

WINJA
7th November 2004, 20:35
doing a stand up wheelie , try standing on the pegs rolling in second gear and yank on the bars and pull the bike up under power, do not use the clutch, i find standups easier than normal wheelies as you can see where your going and its easier to balance just my opinion, supose some dick here will have a negative comment

bevsta
7th November 2004, 20:35
Speaking of wheelies ... a while back (when MI: 2 - the Tom Cruise Movie was being filmed in Auz :raghead: ) so yea quite a while back, the news ran a story on TC's stunt double for the motorcycle scene. If my memory serves me correctly he was a New Zealander. Now this was obviously well before I had entered the bike world but does anyone know the guy I'm talking about? Is he a KB member, could even be a real fluke and he might be the infamous Death Inc. But that I think is a bit far fetched.
Bit :Offtopic: , sorry bout that.

Teflon
7th November 2004, 20:38
You should get a dirtbike to practice on. Least if you flip that, it wont be expensive.

I pull shit wheelstands as well, so your not alone.

swanman
7th November 2004, 20:41
You mean yesterday, not me.

Yamahamaman
7th November 2004, 20:48
You mean yesterday, not me.
Yep, it wan't you the R1 was a 'L' model. My error, I didn't read your bike description, just saw the photo in your avatar and jumped to a conclusion. :Oops:

jrandom
7th November 2004, 20:50
Wheelieing an R1, eh? Hmmm. Oooh, err.

(sucks teeth)

Well, guv, what you want, right, is the clutch in, a nice big handful of throttle, first gear, flick the left hand out again and enjoy the ride. Guaranteed to break the ice at parties!

...

On a more serious note, advice about practising on a less powerful, less expensive road bike (like, say... mine) or a dirtbike is spot on the money. Get used to that feeling of being up on the back wheel, and it'll all fall into place when you get back on the R1.

Two Smoker
7th November 2004, 20:57
doing a stand up wheelie , try standing on the pegs rolling in second gear and yank on the bars and pull the bike up under power, do not use the clutch, i find standups easier than normal wheelies as you can see where your going and its easier to balance just my opinion, supose some dick here will have a negative comment
nah mate :niceone: its better coming from someone experienced.... Death gave me the same advice to me when i was trying to hold the wheelie on a CT110 for over 25 metres..... Are you John????? (sorry trying to work it out :wacko: )

WINJA
7th November 2004, 21:19
what is meant by nah mate, this is someone who will be unnamed practising, its my experience that standups are easy on big bikes, i think it works for me it may not work for every one. the photos blurry as its getting close to 200kmh. as you can see it gives a clear view ahead for a shorty and the wind preasure on your body working against the motor gives better throttle control and stability.

aff-man
7th November 2004, 22:18
Man you bigger bike guys have it easy. I gotta use the old dump clutch method and i get some decent ones lately. A few tips .

1: if dumping clutch don't do it on cold tyres cause the back jest lets go and you get the rolling burnout and and interesting wobble.

2: if you've reved a bit much and she comes up hard don't throttle off immediatly cause she'll come down harder.


It would be cool to ask some more experienced guy on the how cause i never really have.

p.s. i the above mentioned practicing is ,although written in first peron, hypothetical and i have in no way partaken in any illegal activities :doobey:

Two Smoker
8th November 2004, 06:36
what is meant by nah mate, this is someone who will be unnamed practising, its my experience that standups are easy on big bikes, i think it works for me it may not work for every one. the photos blurry as its getting close to 200kmh. as you can see it gives a clear view ahead for a shorty and the wind preasure on your body working against the motor gives better throttle control and stability.
I meant "nah mate" by the "some dick will have a negative comment" :niceone:

When standing up, do you find that you just control the height and balance point with the throttle, or do you still use a bit of rear brake?????

White trash
8th November 2004, 06:47
God this is driving me mad I have been biking for 19 years and I still can't do a wheelie!

I have owned all sorts of bikes from 2 strokers to full on big sport bikes, and I still cannot do one. It comes from lack of balls, fear of dropping it and ultimatley lack of knowledge.

I recently bought an '04 R1 shit this is a fast bike, in fact I even managed a couple of impromptu power wheelies (wheel a foot off the ground) at Puke couple of weeks ago. At full thrust the front skips along the road all the way until your are doing well over 200kmh. So this bike should be a piece of piss to wheelie on.

So how do I do it? In a safe controlled manner and preferably at sensible speeds i.e. less than 100kmh? Really I think I need someone to show me, on a quiet straight bit of road. I really need to crack this one.


Don' sweat it too much. My dad's been riding bikes for a lot longer than you and he can't wheelie my bikes either.

I learnt to do proper wheelies on a '98 GSXR750 so there isn't a problem learning on grunty bikes.

My advice is this. Ride along in 2nd at about 70kph, begin accelerating fairly quickly (about half throttle) and as the speed sweeps through, say, 100, give it a quick dip of the clutch as you dial in more throttle. I mean a real quick dip of the clutch. About 1/2 lever travel.

The front wheel will rise fairly slowly as the bike gets towards its peak power. You should then be able to control the rate of climb with the throttle.

Long uphill stretches are easier to do it on too. It's not the sort of thing you'll get overnight and there are a hell of a lot of people who still can't wheelie properly.

When I grow up, I wanna be just like Death or Lance Lowe.

:third: I've seen Lance wheelie a complete lap of Pukekohe on his Street Magic. Hairpin and all.

StoneChucker
8th November 2004, 11:28
I know EXACTLY how you feel. I also have the 04 R1, and I also can't wheelie, reliably. I do it occasionally, by accident when accelerating quickly. My main reasons are identical to yours, not enough balls, fear of dropping, etc...

But I'm going to try that second gear, and tug back on the bars, sounds like it might work. I don't like the clutch method, sounds hard on the ol clutch. Also, don't try in first gear, it's waaay too wild. And as they've said, keep your foot on the rear brake, and if it doesn't feel right, hit it :) And keep the front wheel straight :2thumbsup

Let me know how, and WHAT you do, since I also want to get it sorted...

White trash
8th November 2004, 11:54
And keep the front wheel straight :2thumbsup



Turning the front wheel is how you steer the bike. Trying to hold it straight will have you veering wherever the wind or road camber take you. Not nice!

Motu
8th November 2004, 12:04
Get a trials bike - you can't help but wheelie.Don't do it like I did yesterday - the bike started to loop,so I stepped off the back and brought it around in a 180 turn downhill again - but the bike landed heavily on it's side...things are a bit bent at the front now.I can pop a wheelie anytime I like,but I can't control one...

StoneChucker
8th November 2004, 14:19
How does the front wheel steer the bike when it's off the ground? Does it have something to do with air pressure / weight shifting? And from a previous thread of yours, I'll remember to indicate if I plan on changing lanes after I master a sustained wheelie. (Just so people know the drift is intentional :D)

aff-man
8th November 2004, 14:45
I know EXACTLY how you feel. I also have the 04 R1, and I also can't wheelie, reliably. I do it occasionally, by accident when accelerating quickly. My main reasons are identical to yours, not enough balls, fear of dropping, etc...

But I'm going to try that second gear, and tug back on the bars, sounds like it might work. I don't like the clutch method, sounds hard on the ol clutch. Also, don't try in first gear, it's waaay too wild. And as they've said, keep your foot on the rear brake, and if it doesn't feel right, hit it :) And keep the front wheel straight :2thumbsup

Let me know how, and WHAT you do, since I also want to get it sorted...

Do what i did start small i.e. 5 cm off the ground hell that happens when you accelerate in any of your first 3 gears anyway. And then when you are comfortable go higher and higher. IF you keep practicing you will get better but you will also increase your chance of fucking up. But it's the same with putting your bike on the race track, if you want to take the risk it's up to you.





p.s. hmmmm i wonder if anyone will let me try on a bigger bike :eek5: :eek5: the whole clutching it up is getting old :argh:

jrandom
8th November 2004, 15:57
How does the front wheel steer the bike when it's off the ground? Does it have something to do with air pressure / weight shifting? And from a previous thread of yours, I'll remember to indicate if I plan on changing lanes after I master a sustained wheelie. (Just so people know the drift is intentional :D)

Gyroscopic precession, grasshopper. Which is why high-speed wheelies are more steerable - the front wheel comes up spinning, you see. If you experiment enough, one day you'll note that if you grab the front brake when the front's still up and spinning, waggling the bars will suddenly fail to steer you around like it did before...

White trash
8th November 2004, 16:01
How does the front wheel steer the bike when it's off the ground? Does it have something to do with air pressure / weight shifting? And from a previous thread of yours, I'll remember to indicate if I plan on changing lanes after I master a sustained wheelie. (Just so people know the drift is intentional :D)

I think it's just the rotational force of the wheel. Turn the bars to the right, bike turns left. Turn bars left, bike goes right. Magic! I can wheelie through "S" bends now with only a little practice.

I never cover the rear brake during a wheelie either. Everyone reckons I'm mad but I've got two fingers constantly covering the front brake lever. Give that a quick dab mid wheelie and watch out for ya nuts! :kick:

White trash
8th November 2004, 16:02
one day you'll note that if you grab the front brake when the front's still up and spinning, waggling the bars will suddenly fail to steer you around like it did before...

No it wont. It'll slam your "boys" into the back of the tank.

jrandom
8th November 2004, 16:09
I think it's just the rotational force of the wheel. Turn the bars to the right, bike turns left. Turn bars left, bike goes right. Magic!

Yeah. Wot 'e said. Force perpendicular to a plane of rotation. Gyro-thingy pre-wotsit, innit.


Give that a quick dab mid wheelie and watch out for ya nuts! :kick:

I was hoping everyone would keep quiet-like, and SC would learn about the details of the physics the fun way.

White trash
8th November 2004, 16:11
I was hoping everyone would keep quiet-like, and SC would learn about the details of the physics the fun way.

:o Should'a kept me mouth :shutup: Sorry.......

sAsLEX
8th November 2004, 16:20
Gyroscopic precession
isn't it progression, how forces applied to something in rotational motion are experienced 90 degrees aound in the axis of rotation??

Try sitting in a swivel work chair and hold a bicycle wheel by the axle, get someone to spin the f**k out of it and then try tilting it side to side and left to right, you should be able to turn youself around in the chair, this will give you some idea of whats happening when you push on the bars Stonechucker, and it aint all that hard to do either.

jrandom
8th November 2004, 17:45
isn't it progression, how forces applied to something in rotational motion are experienced 90 degrees aound in the axis of rotation??

You do well to question the word; my memory is very leaky. I was right this time, though. From dictionary.com:

pre·ces·sion
n.

1. The act or state of preceding; precedence.
2. Physics. The motion of the axis of a spinning body, such as the wobble of a spinning top, when there is an external force acting on the axis.

So, er, there you go. I think.


Try sitting in a swivel work chair and hold a bicycle wheel by the axle, get someone to spin the f**k out of it and then try tilting it side to side and left to right, you should be able to turn youself around in the chair, this will give you some idea of whats happening when you push on the bars Stonechucker, and it aint all that hard to do either.

Good idea.

sAsLEX
8th November 2004, 18:06
ok delved into the 7th form notes and throughout it is referred to as progression, so blame the education system!!

Little pic attached from same notes shows what I am kinda on about, the gyro would spin in to the screen instead of falling as imagined

swanman
8th November 2004, 18:13
Good to see someone else has got an 04 R1. Awesome bike. On the way to work and back today I tried a few roll ons in 1st, just got the wheel off the ground then ran out of space/ balls.
Typically I was on SH1 overtaking in 3rd hard and without trying the wheel came off the ground a few inches. This bike is soooo designed to wheelie, If I can't do it on this I'll never do it.
Wonder where the best place to practise would be in West Auckland? :cool2:

Mr Skid
8th November 2004, 18:23
Wonder where the best place to practise would be in West Auckland? :cool2:

Swanson Road, around 11pm on a Saturday night :whistle:

Two Smoker
8th November 2004, 18:30
Yep your R1 sure has some mumbo...... I remember on the track when i got a good 2 bike lengths on you out of Castrol, then literally watched you twist the throttle and fly past me....

Best place to practice would be a very long smooth road in some industrial area....usually on a weekend or in the evening.... otherwise a very straight long piece of road out in the rural area that isnt travelled on very much....

jrandom
8th November 2004, 18:35
ok delved into the 7th form notes and throughout it is referred to as progression, so blame the education system!!

Stupid education system.


Little pic attached from same notes shows what I am kinda on about, the gyro would spin in to the screen instead of falling as imagined

Good picture.

Gyros are weird.

Motu
8th November 2004, 19:32
[QUOTE=jrandom

Gyro's weird.[/QUOTE]

Gyro Gearloose - he was a goose man,a freeking goose!

aff-man
8th November 2004, 22:14
Good to see someone else has got an 04 R1. Awesome bike. On the way to work and back today I tried a few roll ons in 1st, just got the wheel off the ground then ran out of space/ balls.
Typically I was on SH1 overtaking in 3rd hard and without trying the wheel came off the ground a few inches. This bike is soooo designed to wheelie, If I can't do it on this I'll never do it.
Wonder where the best place to practise would be in West Auckland? :cool2:

Anywhere there is not a cop :laugh: :laugh: . Sooooooo no-ones offered me thier bike yet :kick: :laugh: :laugh: . Hmm i'll just have to wait untill i get the funds for one. Untill then it's clutch hi-ho silver.

p.s. does anyone (with a smaller bike) have a good clutching technique, i can get the bike up to about a 40-50 degree angle with a bit of control. But that only happens sometimes (when i have the balls)i am usually in the 25-35 degree mark. Well that's what i think from the handel bar position. I really need someone to film me so i can analyse the whole thing. :whistle:

StoneChucker
9th November 2004, 14:00
Yeah, I know what gyroscopic precession is, and how it works (was covered extensively in a certain course I did)...

I may have a go sometime, but as you say, it's bloody risky!

:stupid:

avgas
9th November 2004, 19:13
i actually have the opposite problem - bikes dont turn very well with the front in the air. Dont worry mate - you'll work it out. Get some crash bungs if your gonna practice thought - even take of your fairings, headlight etc if you think your gonna stuff it up.
Are wheelies illegal in NZ? Anyone know?

Kwaka-Kid
9th November 2004, 19:58
talk to my older brother, this pic is of him at about 14years old on a 1978 Honda XL125 - beast of a bike! -he doesnt ride anymore unfortunatly.

aff-man
9th November 2004, 19:59
i actually have the opposite problem - bikes dont turn very well with the front in the air. Dont worry mate - you'll work it out. Get some crash bungs if your gonna practice thought - even take of your fairings, headlight etc if you think your gonna stuff it up.
Are wheelies illegal in NZ? Anyone know?

hey avgas whats the best way for the zxr400's. I am clutching at the moment and am good with anything up to about probably 0.5m but anything bigger and the revs required mean that i have less control. Nott a good thing. :thud:

p.s. what are up with cable ties on the forks, where do you put em what do they do etc etc etc

jrandom
9th November 2004, 20:26
Are wheelies illegal in NZ? Anyone know?

We've discussed it before on the forum. There's no specific 'Wheelies are the Work of the Devil' law, but that don't necessarily mean they're safe for our friendly local biker sitting on 85 demerits.

One of our blue-uniformed KBers, IIRC, confirmed to me that the 'sustained loss of traction' offense only applies to driving wheels, so you won't get a confiscated bike boy-racer style, but most cops would probably do you for dangerous, or at least careless, driving, if you mono'd in their view on a public road and pulling you over wasn't too much effort.

Milky
9th November 2004, 20:48
p.s. what are up with cable ties on the forks, where do you put em what do they do etc etc etc
cable ties go on the slider to measure sag and dive... Least that is what I use mine for.

*hopes he used the right terminology*

loosebruce
9th November 2004, 23:06
Good to see someone else has got an 04 R1. Awesome bike. On the way to work and back today I tried a few roll ons in 1st, just got the wheel off the ground then ran out of space/ balls.
Typically I was on SH1 overtaking in 3rd hard and without trying the wheel came off the ground a few inches. This bike is soooo designed to wheelie, If I can't do it on this I'll never do it.
Wonder where the best place to practise would be in West Auckland? :cool2:

Mate best place to practise is the nor western m/way, i finish work late so on my way home i do a couple of laps upto westgate and back to newton practising. Kinda good as you got 3 lanes to mess about in, couple of rises here n there, nice one coming up towards gt nrth rd off ramp.
It's all practise mate, taken me 6 months of solid training to hold it up comfortably in 2nd, hooking 3rd every now and then.
Whitetrash said on a bigger bike use 2nd to learn, 1st shit happens pretty quick, putt along at 70-80 i go full throttle on mine and ping the clutch and it comes up real smooth, sounds crazy but the faster you are going the easier it is. I wouldn't be giving the R1 full throttle in 2nd though you about 60 odd horse up on me and weigh 30 odd kg less :crazy: , one day i'll get me a peice of that action. You'll work out how much you need.
The biggest thing is not shutting off too early, when you're learning you're like fuck it's high but in reality you're 2 foot off the ground. Cool to have someone with you that can tell you how you're going and give you a few pointers, i'd go for wheelie missions with ya uh once i get my licence back that is.

But yeah man, practise practise practise, oh and buy fucken good gear and a back protecter just in case. Full leather is the only way.

:headbang:

jrandom
9th November 2004, 23:29
But yeah man, practise practise practise, oh and buy fucken good gear and a back protecter just in case. Full leather is the only way.

Bruce speaks troof. Never practise the wheelies without all the gear. Back protector, definitely. And have some cash ready to buy a replacement helmet if you're serious about stunt practise - you don't want to do a faceplant, get up OK, bin again the next day and spend the rest of your life a vegetable just because your helmet was stuffed from the first time.

And Brucey, you're a BAD BAD boy for wheelieing down the motorway... :shifty:

festus
10th November 2004, 13:43
All I'll say is treat the R1, esp the 04 model, with complete respect!. esp when doing wheelies.
Like any bike, when you learn where the power comes on best, and only from 2nd onwards, you just give it a handful and a tug, she will come up :2thumbsup
On an R1 I imagine you could do this in 3 also!. Keep the front wheel straight when bringing it down too, the R1 is a bit twitchy if off centre, I know, my brother got a slight tank slapping affair going on when coming down slightly crossed up. Not a good look. :Oops:

DEATH_INC.
14th November 2004, 16:42
Righto then,
Use second,first will be far too violent
Find where it starts to pull hard when you hold her wide open(what rpm)
Get going prolly 100k ish then nail her open
As you approach the aforementioned hard pulling rpm sit upright(like a copper :Police: )
As soon as the front goes light pull on the bars(you don't need to tug,just hang from the bars)
As the front comes up lean forward into the bike a bit
Resist the urge to shut the throttle off at this point,keep her nailed.
You'll need to be prepared to pull it up higher than you think to get it balanced
As it starts to get high(it'll start to come up faster and faster)SLOWLY close the throttle till you're cruising with only a small throttle opening
Put it down again.
As you get better you work the throttle on and off to keep your balance,but 'till you get used to it just pull her up and put her down again a few times.
NO.1 RULE: DON'T TAKE YOUR FEET OFF THE PEGS!!!!
even if you think your going over.Taking your feet off the pegs will gaurantee it.Just shut off the throttle,it'll come back down.
I've seen plenty of vids of guys getting it wrong and smashing tailights ect,but those who dont let go of the pegs land on their wheels again,those who do land on their heads....
My opinion,on a big grunty bike,start with sitdowns the're easier to control,standups are harder to feel.I struggled with standups on my ZX12...
I don't cover the brake either,it's another thing to distract you,I've never needed it and if I do I know where it is.....

Myself and Sam are pretty evenly matched these days I can outdistance him on most occasions,but we'll see after he gets used to the thou......I also had another mate on a TLs that could go the distance,but he's been bikeless for a while now.I dunno about Lance,he's a bit of a legend,but I sure wish i could stoppie like him......

vtec
15th November 2004, 21:26
Gyroscopic precession, grasshopper. Which is why high-speed wheelies are more steerable - the front wheel comes up spinning, you see. If you experiment enough, one day you'll note that if you grab the front brake when the front's still up and spinning, waggling the bars will suddenly fail to steer you around like it did before...

Exactly its the gyroscopic effect of the front wheel spinning, which makes it so you can steer your bike around on the back wheel. (the back wheel spinning also helps to keep the bike straight)

Braking with the front wheel will also bring the front of the bike down immediately... just like the opposite of a "panic rev" on a dirt bike when doing big jumps..

Also, I can only do cresting or clutch wheelies on my 250, but when I get to ride my dad's TL1000s, I just twist the throttle quickly in first, and it gives me a big kick into the air. Just have to be careful not to over cook it. I haven't managed any sustained (25m or longer) wheelies yet.

Frankie
16th November 2004, 01:24
the photos blurry as its getting close to 200kmh

:sick: errr... no thanks ill pass

Duno how you could do it... doing 160 is a bit so and so on a bike really... rather windy.... and even 200 in a car is a bit :crazy:

avgas
16th November 2004, 04:13
hey avgas whats the best way for the zxr400's. I am clutching at the moment and am good with anything up to about probably 0.5m but anything bigger and the revs required mean that i have less control. Nott a good thing. :thud:

p.s. what are up with cable ties on the forks, where do you put em what do they do etc etc etc
yeh just had a look at my bike and compared it to my friends - his is the same but standard. Turns out my rear shock and swingarm isnt standard - not sure what theyre off, but theyre a hell of a lot better. will get bak 2 you on the cable tie thing, but i think they hold cables. im actually killing the throttle about 10grand cos my spidey sense in my broken leg warns me ;)

avgas
16th November 2004, 04:19
What a great idea :) The allmight cable tie as a form of mesurement
Right im off to go play with my new toys by doin some stoppies

WINJA
16th November 2004, 16:30
:sick: errr... no thanks ill pass

Duno how you could do it... doing 160 is a bit so and so on a bike really... rather windy.... and even 200 in a car is a bit :crazy:
ITS NOT THAT BAD, SOMEONE WHO WILL REMAIN UNNAMED, CAN PULL A BIKE INTO A STAND FROM 200, AND THEN HOLD THE STAND AT 250 PLUS

Teflon
17th November 2004, 20:35
ITS NOT THAT BAD, SOMEONE WHO WILL REMAIN UNNAMED, CAN PULL A BIKE INTO A STAND FROM 200, AND THEN HOLD THE STAND AT 250 PLUS

Seen Ghost Rider wheelstand a turbo bus @ 300k, (probaly get flamed for this)

Theres a guy in the states who has turbo busa, he pulls some good wheelstands, think the site is: www.superkaos.com, some really good vids.

enigma51
17th November 2004, 20:56
Anybody managed to wheelie a suzuki 600 k3

enigma51
17th November 2004, 20:56
And Im not talking about just lifting the front a few cm

aff-man
17th November 2004, 23:38
And Im not talking about just lifting the front a few cm

Saw WT do a huuuuuuuuge stand up wheelie once. Great stuff watching him work his magic on the same bike you have

Two Smoker
18th November 2004, 05:55
Anybody managed to wheelie a suzuki 600 k3
Ive seen WT lift his (old K3) front wheel HEAPS....

enigma51
18th November 2004, 07:43
Ive seen WT lift his (old K3) front wheel HEAPS....

I would love to know how he does it. It will come up if you do the clutch thing but otherwise it will just lift of the ground

DEATH_INC.
18th November 2004, 20:06
I did a few on MR's 600 when we did that stuntday thing,it just popped up in first under power,no probs....
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1898

Two Smoker
18th November 2004, 20:13
Its not often we see you doing a sit down wheelie :crazy:

Joni
18th November 2004, 20:16
Its not often we see you doing a sit down wheelie :crazy:

Its not often we see that bike on that wheel.... :blink:

Two Smoker
18th November 2004, 20:19
Its not often we see that bike on that wheel.... :blink:
LOL, yeah its usually balancing on the front..... :shifty:

rendog
20th November 2004, 16:05
Would it have been DEATH INC. that I may have seen at Meremere on Friday night (19th Nov). Green ZX12R, awesome burnout then quarter mile wheelie, then on the return road puts the front brake on so the back comes like an opposite of a wheelie? (is this a stoppie?)
Best display of riding ive ever seen.

Two Smoker
20th November 2004, 17:16
Nup, wasnt Death, he sold his ZX-12R.... But Death is known for his 1/4 mile wheelies at meremere.... He now has a bright orange GSX-R750, or a bright green ZX-750e1 Turbo...

yep that was a stoppie... Like MR's here

Are you sure it was a ZX-12R???? I dont think they would do very good stoppies... too heavy.....

DEATH_INC.
20th November 2004, 17:28
U sure it wasn't lance on his 10R?
He's known to turn up at meremere now and then,and it sure sounds like his style....

DEATH_INC.
20th November 2004, 17:30
Its not often we see you doing a sit down wheelie :crazy:
I can go further sitting than standing,I actually do them quite a bit,especially when I've got a bit of pace on.....

rendog
20th November 2004, 22:17
It was dark so it could have been a 10R. Whoever it was did put on a nice show for us spectators.

Tony Barclay
22nd November 2004, 20:27
Swanman i know just how ya feel, having trouble getting it up and then keeping it up myself {the bike haha} Check out this site for how to do wheelies and things very cool site http://www.garyrothwell.com/index.html