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tommorth
28th December 2007, 19:33
went to do fork seals . got the rgs front in the air pulled wheel off the front and went to pull the caps off the forks and stripped both of the fkn things grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr :buggerd::mad:
im useing the correct size good quality sockets to me thinks locktight was on the bolts for the front gaurd and they were already a bit bured maybe a vice and visegrips will fix it
marty
28th December 2007, 20:36
If you're using the correct size good quality sockets, such as Snap On or Stahlwille, then I doubt that they would be the cause of the stripped caps.
Powerbuilt or similar Repco/Supercheap brand is NOT good quality....have a look at the Powerbuilt V8 supercar team. What tools do they use? Not Powerbuilt that's for sure!
T.W.R
28th December 2007, 21:08
Did you loosen off the top triple clamp bolts 1st?
tommorth
28th December 2007, 21:23
it took quit a bit of force to burr the heads of the caps so i cant fault the tools
didnt loosen the clamps if i did that the forks would spin can see how possibly the clamp may squash the fork tube onto the cap but the forks are around two inches proud of the clamps so wouldnt have thought it would be an issue
Usarka
28th December 2007, 21:35
did you use the caps?
:innocent:
The Stranger
28th December 2007, 21:39
it took quit a bit of force to burr the heads of the caps so i cant fault the tools
didnt loosen the clamps if i did that the forks would spin can see how possibly the clamp may squash the fork tube onto the cap but the forks are around two inches proud of the clamps so wouldnt have thought it would be an issue
Loosening the top tripple clamp in most cases makes a HUGE difference. Often the torque setting on the caps is around 20ft-lb and the tripple clamp ensures the cap stays put.
At that sort of torque you can damn near hold the tube with your hand to undo the cap.
That said, as everyone knows, torque wrenches are for poofters and any torque is close enough.
xwhatsit
29th December 2007, 00:58
it took quit a bit of force to burr the heads of the caps so i cant fault the tools
didnt loosen the clamps if i did that the forks would spin can see how possibly the clamp may squash the fork tube onto the cap but the forks are around two inches proud of the clamps so wouldnt have thought it would be an issue
No, just back off the top triple clamp and leave the bottom one done up to stop them spinning. It does make a difference, trust me :D
The Stranger is quite right, if the previous nutter who did the forks did them up to the correct torque, it's quite possible to hold the forks with your hand on the floor (forks off the bike) and use a spanner to undo the top nuts. It's all in the top clamp, which worries me somewhat when you have the front end lowered through the clamps (although you'd notice it pretty quickly if they started to come undone).
Thought about filing some flats onto the top nuts and using a smaller open spanner?
skidMark
29th December 2007, 01:59
If you're using the correct size good quality sockets, such as Snap On or Stahlwille, then I doubt that they would be the cause of the stripped caps.
Powerbuilt or similar Repco/Supercheap brand is NOT good quality....have a look at the Powerbuilt V8 supercar team. What tools do they use? Not Powerbuilt that's for sure!
powerbuilt are resonably good actually same with repco brand, aint stripped one yet.... nor a single bolt...actually snapped bolts before stripping the head....
we arnt all millionaires that can afford snap-on tools.
The Stranger
29th December 2007, 06:44
powerbuilt are resonably good actually same with repco brand, aint stripped one yet.... nor a single bolt...actually snapped bolts before stripping the head....
we arnt all millionaires that can afford snap-on tools.
Come on Mark, they need to justify paying 10X the price some how.
In all honesty, if you are earning a living off of a tool, you are better off with the best, otherwise I got to agree with Mark.
Agh what did a just say!!!
Robert Taylor
29th December 2007, 09:24
went to do fork seals . got the rgs front in the air pulled wheel off the front and went to pull the caps off the forks and stripped both of the fkn things grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr :buggerd::mad:
im useing the correct size good quality sockets to me thinks locktight was on the bolts for the front gaurd and they were already a bit bured maybe a vice and visegrips will fix it
This primarily happened because you didnt first loosen the top triple clamp pinch bolts. In the trade if we did this the customer would demand new caps.
tommorth
29th December 2007, 10:15
i would to if someone charged me to wreck somthing on my bike:laugh:
have done this before on my xr without any problems
will have another fiddle with it today i think all rgs have the forks through the top tree my other one was like that when i got it
Robert Taylor
29th December 2007, 11:40
i would to if someone charged me to wreck somthing on my bike:laugh:
have done this before on my xr without any problems
will have another fiddle with it today i think all rgs have the forks through the top tree my other one was like that when i got it
if the top of the fork has a lot of protrusion above the triple clamp then there will be no squeezing tight force.
tommorth
29th December 2007, 14:23
that was what i assumed have gotten them off now i filled them down a little then hamerd a 16mm socket on then with a big power bar and a lot more than the recomended 25foot pounds force they came off
the oil inside is grey and sludgey yuck
Taz
29th December 2007, 15:13
The oil inside is grey and sludgey yuck
Don't reuse it then...... :)
The Stranger
29th December 2007, 18:04
that was what i assumed have gotten them off now i filled them down a little then hamerd a 16mm socket on then with a big power bar and a lot more than the recomended 25foot pounds force they came off
the oil inside is grey and sludgey yuck
Well done, you can expect to recieve a job offer from Robert Taylor any moment now.
tommorth
29th December 2007, 18:49
i think he would be more likely to kick me than hire me :-)
it does seem that you are all in agrement about first lossening the to clamps the forks are very thin at the top will do this next time . If i'd of put the tourqe wrench on it would have gone off its scale getting the bloody things off .I will use it to put them back on makes life easyer when it has to come apart also prevents overtightening things and breaking heads off bolts!!!!!!(dont break the heads off subaru rocker covers you have to pull the motor out to get at the bolt:-( )
wont be reuseing the oil maybe i can kill some weeds with it
hope every ones having a gd holiday:sunny:
The Stranger
29th December 2007, 18:56
wont be reuseing the oil maybe i can kill some weeds with it
That's the storey I have an ecologically friendly natural earth filtration system too.
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