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slopster
29th December 2007, 00:50
Can believe it. Was returning home from a friends place in the early hours of the morning. I thought the Tauranga expressway was open road but its an 80 zone. Got pinged at 132 I knew I was speeding a bit but thought I was well under the licence losing speed. Got my 28 day suspension and can expect a summons.

What can I expect in court given that it was 52kmh over on an expressway, no other traffic at all on the road (the police car was hiding under a bridge), dry road, no current demerits and only had a couple of small speeding fines in the past.

The policeman was not unreasonable about things but wouldn't consider taking a couple of km off to save a lot of hassle later on. I did my absolute best to be well behaved and not vent. Anyone know how accurate those stalkers are because if I can get a couple of km off then it will just be a whopping big fine and 50 demerits (and still a 28 day walk).

steveb64
29th December 2007, 00:58
:doh: Bummer! Did the cop do you for anything like dangerous speed, or careless use? If not - i.e. he only did you for exceeding 100 kph, then you will probably get a $500 - $600 fine, and 50 demerits. :no:

Speaking from experience (160 in a 100). :pinch:

awayatc
29th December 2007, 01:01
ouch..!!!! very unpleasant experience...
I read about some cases having been successfully challenged in court, and from memory they hinged on factors like proximity to other moving vehicles, electronics and or metal structures....Not sure if the bridge the copper was hiding under could be blamed for affecting accurate reading...Hope you can find a little loophole somewhere, and if you do keep us informed..
Good luck

bucket boy
29th December 2007, 03:51
not the place to go a little quick on thursday nights onwards coppers always stalking around there for boyracers bit hard not dropping it 2kph i suppose that was you left on side of road no ridding away

skidMark
29th December 2007, 04:12
even if it was 32 over man you still wuldve been pretty buggered...

why the heck were you doing that speed anyways?

i don't speed at night for the ismple fact, there the same amount of cops on the road but less other vehicles.....so chances are the car coming down the road is a cop more than it will be in the daytime.

and they have less vehicles to pull over so are gunna go after whatever they can..quotas to fill blah blah....

silly boy.

but hey shit happens.....ive been pulled up 38 times in 2 years.

skidMark
29th December 2007, 04:13
not the place to go a little quick on thursday nights onwards coppers always stalking around there for boyracers bit hard not dropping it 2kph i suppose that was you left on side of road no ridding away


yeah they would have taken his bike to impound too....he will be paying at least 350-400 to get it out.

skidMark
29th December 2007, 04:16
The policeman was not unreasonable about things but wouldn't consider taking a couple of km off to save a lot of hassle later on. I did my absolute best to be well behaved and not vent. Anyone know how accurate those stalkers are because if I can get a couple of km off then it will just be a whopping big fine and 50 demerits (and still a 28 day walk).


ahhh dude by the sounds of it you still think you are allowed 50 kph over...

you are only allowed 40 over now....

even if it was a 100kph zone.... you would have only been 8 kph under...

you were 52 kph over...

thats a fair bit my son....

lube up....bend over....greet bubba.

marty
29th December 2007, 04:32
There's huge 80k signs all along the expressway. Anything over 120k will see you walking. They have huge problems with boy ricers racing on the expressways over there, so it's not surprising that he didn't cut you any slack.

Pretty sucky time to be walking though.....

YellowDog
29th December 2007, 04:33
Sorry to hear your crap news.

I would say to you that the cop being nice about it is their new "Catch more bees with honey" tactic.

"Have a nice day" - By the way, you're screwed!

I have no experience of NZ speeding (I've never been caught) and would be very interested to hear how you get on.

Good luck.

Grahameeboy
29th December 2007, 05:48
I would accept the consequences and concentrate on getting a limited licence if you need one.

huck farley
29th December 2007, 06:09
I can't offer to much advice on this one I'm afraid. Looks like you will be on the push bike for a year and a hefty fine of around $600 plus court costs whatever they are nowadays.

About the only out I can offer you is to get a lawyer to act on your behalf or at least sit down with one and have a chat.

The cops I understand have to tune the Lazar every day and it also has to be logged.

This question could be asked in court, and the log book presented. If it wasn't tuned and logged. Then you may get the case thrown out.

Or maybe a lesser fine/suspension or whatever.

But like I say check it out with your lawyer first. If all fails then I'm afraid it's the old pun of "do the crime, and do the time.

Good luck. And It could happen to any one of us. So you have my sympathy!!

slopster
29th December 2007, 06:46
For your info skidmark the speed for having to go to court is 50kmh. If your caught at 49kmh you don't have to go to court but you still walk for 28 days. And if your nice to the cop he will let you ride home and not pay to get your bike out of the impound.

toebug
29th December 2007, 06:49
Gotta watch that expressway, and remember at this time of year we have an influx of boy hoons and double the coppas!

Maha
29th December 2007, 06:55
ive been pulled off 38 times in 2 years.




lube up....bend over....greet bubba.

Ahhhh the voice of experiance on what happens when in custody.....:yes:

toebug
29th December 2007, 07:06
.....ive been pulled up 38 times in 2 years.

Damn I would hate to ride with you! You must attract heaps of attention! In 20 years of riding I have only been pulled up a couple of times and I have NEVER had a ticket.

Guess I am either a bloody nana or bloody lucky!

skidMark
29th December 2007, 07:50
Damn I would hate to ride with you! You must attract heaps of attention! In 20 years of riding I have only been pulled up a couple of times and I have NEVER had a ticket.

Guess I am either a bloody nana or bloody lucky!


it's called

3k tab at $30 pw

did a whole heap of silly shit....

loud exhaust gets ya attention...and a bike that you ride everywhere revving the snmot out of it when it does 19k of rpm at redline.

alot of things i got let off on

some just license rego checks

and that doesnt include drink driving stops....thats just been pulled up...

got pulled over three times in a week once, buggers dnt leave me alone...

other times silly things like having a tail light out that i ddn't know about.

ummmmm no mirrors....etc etc.

i used to get pulled over alot when i first started riding...had a mini chopper and a road registered pit bike which i had made a custom loom for....lights etc...and road tyres....

got pulled up more than anything for it's looks...a couple of times for wheelies and stoppies...

another time pulled up out the very back of botany doing a 10 metre long rolling stoppie...

**oh sorry new brakes officer i ddn't know they were this good** "bullshit

i ride a blah blah blah,

well i know how to do stoppies...that one wasn't intentional but i kept it under control.....

where do you do them,

oh stunt days....don't let me see you doing it again...:Police:

the list goes on but i won't bore you.

Grahameeboy
29th December 2007, 07:52
it's called

3k tab at $30 pw

did a whole heap of silly shit....

loud exhaust gets ya attention...and a bike that you ride everywhere revving the snmot out of it when it does 19k of rpm at redline.

alot of things i got let off on

some just license rego checks

and that doesnt include drink driving stops....thats just been pulled up...

got pulled over three times in a week once, buggers dnt leave me alone...

other times silly things like having a tail light out that i ddn't know about.

ummmmm no mirrors....etc etc.

i used to get pulled over alot when i first started riding...had a mini chopper and a road registered pit bike which i had made a custom loom for....lights etc...and road tyres....

got pulled up more than anything for it's looks...a couple of times for wheelies and stoppies...

another time pulled up out the very back of botany doing a 10 metre long rolling stoppie...

**oh sorry new brakes officer i ddn't know they were this good** "bullshit

i ride a blah blah blah,

well i know how to do stoppies...that one wasn't intentional but i kept it under control.....

where do you do them,

oh stunt days....don't let me see you doing it again...:Police:

the list goes on but i won't bore you.

You lead a sheltered life..............soon the shelter will have bars:bleh:

ipod1098
29th December 2007, 08:02
Slop, $630 fine and c,cost $110. Book into a defensive driving course(for the judge) will look better.Work licence $500-$1k.

The Pastor
29th December 2007, 08:09
fine will be $700 + court costs.

What are you charged with? dangerous? Expect 1k fine and long time loss of licence.

Matt_TG
29th December 2007, 08:44
I heard the call on Police comms of a bike doing 132 last night, I was waiting for the pursuit but if the one I heard was you at least you pulled over smartly.

You picked the wrong night to speed around 15th ave / route P & K areas mate. The cops were dealing with 100+ boy racer cars in the area. He was probably under the bridge waiting for them. Bad luck.

Zuki Bandit
29th December 2007, 08:55
even if it was 32 over man you still wuldve been pretty buggered...

why the heck were you doing that speed anyways?

i don't speed at night for the ismple fact, there the same amount of cops on the road but less other vehicles.....so chances are the car coming down the road is a cop more than it will be in the daytime.

and they have less vehicles to pull over so are gunna go after whatever they can..quotas to fill blah blah....

silly boy.

but hey shit happens.....ive been pulled up 38 times in 2 years.
WTF? Talk about the pot calling the kettle black!!!:lol::lol::lol:

onearmedbandit
29th December 2007, 09:03
Skidmark, do you know how funny you come acoss when you lecture people on speeding?

slopster
29th December 2007, 10:51
I heard the call on Police comms of a bike doing 132 last night, I was waiting for the pursuit but if the one I heard was you at least you pulled over smartly.

You picked the wrong night to speed around 15th ave / route P & K areas mate. The cops were dealing with 100+ boy racer cars in the area. He was probably under the bridge waiting for them. Bad luck.


He pulled me over later on anyway so I didn't know if I'd been caught in the act or not or even how fast I'd been going. Fortunately I was charged with exceding speed limit, not dangerous speed or anything like that. Don't need a work licence I guess I'll just be getting intimate with my mountainbike.

swbarnett
29th December 2007, 11:11
i don't speed at night for the ismple fact, there the same amount of cops on the road but less other vehicles.....so chances are the car coming down the road is a cop more than it will be in the daytime.

and they have less vehicles to pull over so are gunna go after whatever they can..quotas to fill blah blah....
This is one reason speed limits don't work. Speeding more when there are MORE cars around?

ynot slow
29th December 2007, 11:47
Skidmark, do you know how funny you come acoss when you lecture people on speeding?

Abit like Hitler telling the Jews how to cook with gas.

99TLS
29th December 2007, 14:31
...ive been pulled up 38 times in 2 years.

MY HERO :tugger::tugger::tugger:

sprag
29th December 2007, 14:51
ive been pulled up 38 times in 2 years.

Oh I am glad your keep a count there skid, would hate to think that my tax dollars were just sitting there.

Taz
29th December 2007, 14:56
You could always hire the lady on the radio......

"Hi my name's (removed by request), and I'm a defense lawyer.....blahrdy blahrdy blah"
Instructing solicitor required.

Apparently she can help you minimize the disqualification and/or obtain a work license.......

Worth a try? What you got to lose?

Andy.

sprag
29th December 2007, 14:56
it's called

3k tab at $30 pw

did a whole heap of silly shit....

loud exhaust gets ya attention...and a bike that you ride everywhere revving the snmot out of it when it does 19k of rpm at redline.

alot of things i got let off on

some just license rego checks

and that doesnt include drink driving stops....thats just been pulled up...

got pulled over three times in a week once, buggers dnt leave me alone...

other times silly things like having a tail light out that i ddn't know about.

ummmmm no mirrors....etc etc.

i used to get pulled over alot when i first started riding...had a mini chopper and a road registered pit bike which i had made a custom loom for....lights etc...and road tyres....

got pulled up more than anything for it's looks...a couple of times for wheelies and stoppies...

another time pulled up out the very back of botany doing a 10 metre long rolling stoppie...

**oh sorry new brakes officer i ddn't know they were this good** "bullshit

i ride a blah blah blah,

well i know how to do stoppies...that one wasn't intentional but i kept it under control.....

where do you do them,

oh stunt days....don't let me see you doing it again...:Police:

the list goes on but i won't bore you.

Said it once will say it again,

Your a dipshit.

all you need now is the loser tatt on your forehead and it will just finish it off

Coyote
29th December 2007, 15:18
Gasp! You damn dirty speeder! You want to kill babies don't you? They're crawling around those empty roads

Awful awful awful....


In 20 years of riding I have only been pulled up a couple of times and I have NEVER had a ticket.
Showed them your boobs didn't ya? :p

Chances are those times you were pulled up and not ticketed were quite a few years ago?

I got a ticket a month into riding on the road for following a queue of cars doing 60+. I was at the back and had an L plate so I had it coming. Haven't had one since despite going a lot faster. Goes to show just how crap cops are at catching speeders, that's why they have to hide.

When I get a tank cam, I'll have to take shots of the foliage green camera van's hiding by bushes and post them up on snapt :lol:

scumdog
29th December 2007, 16:01
When I get a tank cam, I'll have to take shots of the foliage green camera van's hiding by bushes and post them up on snapt :lol:

Oooh, THAT'LL learn 'em!!:whocares:

Your not a member of HOODAKEY (dicks inc.) are you??

Taz
29th December 2007, 16:03
Oooh, THAT'LL learn 'em!!:whocares:

:yes::clap::woohoo::headbang::D

McJim
29th December 2007, 16:07
even if it was 32 over man you still wuldve been pretty buggered...

why the heck were you doing that speed anyways?

i don't speed at night for the ismple fact, there the same amount of cops on the road but less other vehicles.....so chances are the car coming down the road is a cop more than it will be in the daytime.

and they have less vehicles to pull over so are gunna go after whatever they can..quotas to fill blah blah....

silly boy.

but hey shit happens.....ive been pulled up 38 times in 2 years.

Hey dude - you know so much now you should apply to be a traffic cop y'self. you could be 'The Kalamari constable' :rofl:

sprag
29th December 2007, 17:10
Hey dude - you know so much now you should apply to be a traffic cop y'self. you could be 'The Kalamari constable' :rofl:

Oh good god could you think of anything worst than that.

skid pulls someone over and then shows them how to pull a wheelie down the motorway with one hand.

boomer
29th December 2007, 17:13
PUSSY!

You shoulda done a runna :baby:

sprag
29th December 2007, 17:15
PUSSY!

You shoulda done a runna :baby:

Shakes head :(

boomer
29th December 2007, 17:18
Shakes head :(

be careful, it might fall orf!

Be sure to wrap it in cotton wool before you make any uncalled for movements of the neck, spine or back.



another money saving idea by McBoomer

MTW
29th December 2007, 17:21
Can believe it. Was returning home from a friends place in the early hours of the morning. I thought the Tauranga expressway was open road but its an 80 zone. Got pinged at 132 I knew I was speeding a bit but thought I was well under the licence losing speed. Got my 28 day suspension and can expect a summons.

What can I expect in court given that it was 52kmh over on an expressway, no other traffic at all on the road (the police car was hiding under a bridge), dry road, no current demerits and only had a couple of small speeding fines in the past.

The policeman was not unreasonable about things but wouldn't consider taking a couple of km off to save a lot of hassle later on. I did my absolute best to be well behaved and not vent. Anyone know how accurate those stalkers are because if I can get a couple of km off then it will just be a whopping big fine and 50 demerits (and still a 28 day walk).
Someone once told me, if you get pinged by the Man, you ask to see the calibration cert. for the radar they used to detect your speed. Aparently they need to be carrying this with them and it must (of course) be current. Just a thought...will try it myself next time...oh yes...there will be a next time.

sprag
29th December 2007, 17:24
Someone once told me, if you get pinged by the Man, you ask to see the calibration cert. for the radar they used to detect your speed. Aparently they need to be carrying this with them and it must (of course) be current. Just a thought...will try it myself next time...oh yes...there will be a next time.

You tend to find them on the side of the radar i think, i remember watching police 10 7 one night and as soon as the cop said the guy was speeding he ask the cop when it was calibrated last, (was that week) the cop said afterwards that a few people try it on and it never works.

boomer
29th December 2007, 17:26
You tend to find them on the side of the radar i think, i remember watching police 10 7 one night and as soon as the cop said the guy was speeding he ask the cop when it was calibrated last, (was that week) the cop said afterwards that a few people try it on and it never works.

Even more reason to do a runner.

slopster
29th December 2007, 17:31
Even more reason to do a runner.

Not gunna work when your stopped at a red light notice a policecar pull up behind you and then he puts his lights on and says he's been following you. Of course he wouldn't put his lights on until he's got your plate. Not that I would entertain such an idea anyway.

skidMark
29th December 2007, 17:56
Not gunna work when your stopped at a red light notice a policecar pull up behind you and then he puts his lights on and says he's been following you. Of course he wouldn't put his lights on until he's got your plate. Not that I would entertain such an idea anyway.


n0000000000b

McJim
29th December 2007, 18:11
Oh good god could you think of anything worst than that.

skid pulls someone over and then shows them how to pull a wheelie down the motorway with one hand.

I've never seen a motorway with one hand...whassit look like? :rofl:

ynot slow
30th December 2007, 09:19
Employers out here,would you hire a guy with 38 traffic convictions in 2 years if the job entailed driving a company vehicle?

davereid
30th December 2007, 14:28
You are likely stuffed here !

You chose exactly the wrong time to speed.. remember the rules

- Choose quiet back roads that are unlikely to be policed
- Choose winding roads that help keep your speed changing, and are fun at speeds close to the limit
- Ride in a group
- Only tail end charlie ever stops for a cop - (no one else saw him !)
- Don't admit the offence EVER

Stalker radar is good for about 0.3% +/- 3.2 km/hr, depending on which of the Stalker manuals you read !

In mobile mode it may be in your favour or the cops. In stationary mode (ie when the cop is parked) it's actually likely to be in your favour - you were possibly going faster than the ticket speed.

You should always deny tickets, particularly if they are going to cost you your licence.

It WILL cost you more if you lose, but actually the cops lose too.

Don't forget, the cop gets paid to go to court. But he is not being productive. His boss hates that, and regardless of what they tell you, it IS all about money.

(Thats why over the Xmas period we chucked zillions at "road safety" yet petty cash at surf livesavers. Guess who saved the most lives.)

And DON'T think you will always lose. With careful preparation you will win. If you are ticketed with radar while in a group, you will win.

The cop may F.Up - In the last one we took to court, the cop included his competency certificate to use radar, but it excluded mobile mode so we won.

Also, Cops leave the force regularly, massive turnover. He may leave, be reposted, etc etc, or may simply be busy on something important and not show up at court.

If you are doing something bloody stupid you deserve all you get. But the vast majority of revenue-collecting tickets should cost the cop three hours sitting in the court.

Best investment in court costs you will ever make, cos we all win, even when we lose.

slopster
30th December 2007, 15:54
My thoughts on things.
1. I was speeding and I knew it (didn't quite think it was by that much) so I guess I deserve whatever I get. From a policing point of veiw I probably picked a shit place to open the throttle. In saying that from a safety point of veiw I could not think of a better time and place to be doing it.
2. Can you negotiate at all with the police prosecutor on this stuff. As in I'll take my shafting quitely if you do me for 49km over instead of 52 which would mean no going to court and just a big fine and lots of demerits.
3. I don't really have a leg to stand on I guess I could ask for the calibration certs and stuff and try that one on because I guess I've got nothing to lose execpt a few more costs, but would the judge look more favourably on me if I just bend over and take it without resisting.

The Pastor
30th December 2007, 15:57
You could always hire the lady on the radio......

"Hi my name's (removed by request), and I'm a defense lawyer.....blahrdy blahrdy blah"
Instructing solicitor required.

Apparently she can help you minimize the disqualification and/or obtain a work license.......

Worth a try? What you got to lose?

Andy.

how about money?

davereid
30th December 2007, 16:46
My thoughts on things.
From a policing point of veiw I probably picked a shit place to open the throttle. In saying that from a safety point of veiw I could not think of a better time and place to be doing it.

IMHO... (I'm an electronics engineer not a lawyer, do seek proper advice)

In most things, the court is NOT obliged to make the penalty as tough as the police ask for.

But, in this case, the law sets out the penalty, not the judge, or the prosecuter.

If you have admitted to the speed claimed, you have had it. Your only chance is to defend it, and you can only put a bob on that if you denied the charge from the outset, or at least said "no comment"

Cast doubt on the radar, the cops quals, other vehicles in the beam etc etc if you can.

Even if you have "no chance", ask for "disclosure". Get the cops quals to use the radar. Get the calibration certificate, and the service history of the radar. (Maybe it has had a dodgy history..) Find out if the last ticket was the same speed... was it even you who earned the ticket ?

It WILL cost you court fees if you lose, which in this case I think is really likely.

But, you get to say your bit about a good road, no traffic, etc etc, you get to face your cop, and he will be getting a boot up from the arse from his boss - can't meet a quota in court, but wages bill the same, and best of all, you might win. Cop may leave, miss the appointment, turn up drunk. Radra might be dodgy.

And all for $150 ! (At least thats what the old court costs were)

DON'T HAND THEM YOUR LICENCE... MAKE THEM WORK FOR IT !

Coyote
30th December 2007, 20:50
Oooh, THAT'LL learn 'em!!:whocares:

Your not a member of HOODAKEY (dicks inc.) are you??
The ':lol:' indicated that I wasn't being too serious. Would be a laugh though, I'm sure all the safty nazi's on there condone the camera's breaking their own entrapment laws.

What's dicks inc.? Should I take great offense for being asked if I'm a member?

scumdog
31st December 2007, 01:37
The ':lol:' indicated that I wasn't being too serious. Would be a laugh though, I'm sure all the safty nazi's on there condone the camera's breaking their own entrapment laws.

What's dicks inc.? Should I take great offense for being asked if I'm a member?


Google 'hoodakey' - they're a bunch of boi-racer wannabe dicks from 'Palm'erston North area.

scumdog
31st December 2007, 01:45
In mobile mode it may be in your favour or the cops. In stationary mode (ie when the cop is parked) it's actually likely to be in your favour - you were possibly going faster than the ticket speed.



It WILL cost you more if you lose, but actually the cops lose too.

Don't forget, the cop gets paid to go to court. But he is not being productive. His boss hates that, and regardless of what they tell you, it IS all about money.

(Best investment in court costs you will ever make, cos we all win, even when we lose.

Mobile/stationary - no difference at all.

And the cops and their bosses don't give a fat-rats arse about going to Court etc, well not down here anyway and I don't know of anywhere the bosses DO 'hate' it..

Sure, the one thing that DOES irk me a little is going into Court on a day off when I had other plans (not often) but I soon get my grin back when I 'win' - and I get to take the day off later anyway.

And the best part is I still get paid regardless whether I 'win' or 'lose'.

BTW I'll post on KB the first time I DO 'lose'.

As you were......

Edbear
31st December 2007, 07:53
...And the best part is I still get paid regardless whether I 'win' or 'lose'...



Now that's the best kind of job...;)

Leong
31st December 2007, 07:54
My sympathies. Just defended a case in court recently - judge dismissed the case at a preliminary hearing so I won but still had to pay $3.8k in lawyers fees and lost a days income. My case was last on the list, so got to spend the day in court watching the proceedings. Never been to court before this.



2. Can you negotiate at all with the police prosecutor on this stuff. As in I'll take my shafting quitely if you do me for 49km over instead of 52 which would mean no going to court and just a big fine and lots of demerits.
3. I don't really have a leg to stand on I guess I could ask for the calibration certs and stuff and try that one on because I guess I've got nothing to lose execpt a few more costs, but would the judge look more favourably on me if I just bend over and take it without resisting.

I don't think you'll get off going to court, but you may as well write a letter to the infringement bureau anyway - if nothing else it will get your thoughts and what happened on that night on paper as it may be months before your court appearance.

The police prosecutor won't change the speed but will probably make a good recommendation to the court for you if you plead guilty, given your good driving record, the traffic and road conditions etc. From what I saw, the magistrate definitely favoured this when deciding fines.

scroter
31st December 2007, 08:20
The policeman was not unreasonable about things but wouldn't consider taking a couple of km off to save a lot of hassle later on. I did my absolute best to be well behaved and not vent. Anyone know how accurate those stalkers are because if I can get a couple of km off then it will just be a whopping big fine and 50 demerits (and still a 28 day walk).


I understood a while back that the rules changed i believe you would need 13kph knocked off to stay out of court. i reccomend a good lawyer even if it gets the charge reduced to something that will have less of an impact on insurance, dangerous driving or careless use can haunt you.

Max Preload
31st December 2007, 10:18
As in I'll take my shafting quitely if you do me for 49km over instead of 52 which would mean no going to court and just a big fine and lots of demerits.


I understood a while back that the rules changed i believe you would need 13kph knocked off to stay out of court.

I believe this is the case too - it's 40km/h over a permanent posted limit for an automatic 28-day walk, vehicle impoundment and cameo at the courthouse.

slopster
31st December 2007, 10:29
no 40kmh over for 28 day walk but automatic still 50kmh for having to go to court

Lucy
31st December 2007, 10:38
Is not seeing the Speed limit signs the same as cage drivers not seeing bikes?

Swoop
31st December 2007, 13:30
Is not seeing the Speed limit signs the same as cage drivers not seeing bikes?
Blingo!

Bloody 10 fc!

Renegade
31st December 2007, 20:23
you would question the cops integritity if he dropped the kms by a couple.

you will be ok though, clean record etc and you havnt been done for the dangerous just the 50kph over which im sure isnt as severe a punishment

pritch
31st December 2007, 22:05
Once when my license was in jeopardy (careless use) I hired a lawyer. I got a fine *and* a lawyer's bill, but I kept my licence.
Everyone else done for careless use that day lost their license.

I can't help feeling that this had rather less to do with my relative guilt, or lack thereof, than of the legal system looking after its own interests.
(Feel free to interpret that how you will...)

Whatever, I still think that if your license is important to you, you should seek legal assistance.

madandy
31st December 2007, 22:50
Bad luck.
We drove home from family home along the same stretch of road, possibly the same night. Bel. XR radar detector saved us the same fate ;)
Boys in blue have certainly been hammering the express way & all of Tga. lately & that bridge hideout sure is busy at nights!

xwhatsit
1st January 2008, 12:18
Sorry to hear your crap news.

I would say to you that the cop being nice about it is their new "Catch more bees with honey" tactic.

"Have a nice day" - By the way, you're screwed!

I have no experience of NZ speeding (I've never been caught) and would be very interested to hear how you get on.

Good luck.

Wrong, bitch! :laugh:

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SteveNZ
1st January 2008, 18:25
Damn I would hate to ride with you! You must attract heaps of attention! In 20 years of riding I have only been pulled up a couple of times and I have NEVER had a ticket.

Guess I am either a bloody nana or bloody lucky!

I got pulled over about 3 times in a month, cos the cops were looking for someone that "fitted my description". This was many years ago when I was riding the trusty old Honda GB400. Would've liked to have known who they were actually after.

Only been done once for anything, got ticketed for lane-splitting, which I totally deserved as I someone managed not to notice the cop car which I passed, or the bike cop who was behind me somewhere. I wrote that one off as not-paying-enough-attention tax. Never been done speeding thankfully.

Coyote
2nd January 2008, 18:24
Google 'hoodakey' - they're a bunch of boi-racer wannabe dicks from 'Palm'erston North area.
A quick google came up with nothing.

I'm not a 'boi' racer. I've been told off for labouring my bikes engine since I tend to keep revs low :rolleyes:

mowgli
3rd January 2008, 12:01
Got pinged at 132 I knew I was speeding a bit but thought I was well under the licence losing speed.

About the only out I can offer you is to get a lawyer to act on your behalf or at least sit down with one and have a chat.
I'm no lawyer but seeing as this is a public forum I imagine your public admission of guilt might make things difficult for a lawyer. The prosecutor could ask you to explain your KB post. Good luck.

pritch
3rd January 2008, 14:36
I imagine your public admission of guilt might make things difficult for a lawyer.

While the original poster was a bit free with the details, I only know of one person reading KB who I believe may be a Police Prosecutor and Tauranga is a bit outside his area. It's not terribly likely that all the prosecuters in Enzed check all the posts on KB before they head to work each Court day.
The more paranoid among us may see that differently of course... :whistle:

The lawyer isn't only there to get you off the charges. In my case I could hardly plead "not guilty" but I explained what happened, and the lawyer explained it to the judge in such a way that the judge let me keep my licence.
:ride:

I have no idea what the lawyer said, I wasn't there. I was trying to earn enough money to pay his bloody bill, whatever it was it was worth every penny.

slopster
7th January 2008, 17:50
Is there any chance of an out because the officer recorded that it happened on SH2 but the section of road is officially called Tamatea Arikinui drive?

The other thing, is there somewhere I can look up the official speed limit for this bit of road because I know someone who got a small speeding ticket for exceeding 80kmh on this exact road and later received a refund because the official speed limit was actually 100kmh and the 80kmh signs were placed in error. This was 2002 though when the expressway was very new and I'd expect them to have sorted it out by now.

Sollyboy
7th January 2008, 18:01
Employers out here,would you hire a guy with 38 traffic convictions in 2 years if the job entailed driving a company vehicle?

Yes I would , those convictions would be half the credits required for a plumbing or glazing apprenticeship , now he just needs to be an alcoholic and hed advance to sparky

slopster
7th January 2008, 18:06
I'm no lawyer but seeing as this is a public forum I imagine your public admission of guilt might make things difficult for a lawyer. The prosecutor could ask you to explain your KB post. Good luck.

Yeah he probably could. I'm sure the prosecutors go over KB and every other internet forum looking for admissions of guilt. Even if they did, I didn't own up to much. Unless he's a moderator he wont know my real name.

Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not after you

Maybe if I confessed to murder or kiddie fucking it would be a different story

bucket boy
7th January 2008, 19:16
Is there any chance of an out because the officer recorded that it happened on SH2 but the section of road is officially called Tamatea Arikinui drive?

The other thing, is there somewhere I can look up the official speed limit for this bit of road because I know someone who got a small speeding ticket for exceeding 80kmh on this exact road and later received a refund because the official speed limit was actually 100kmh and the 80kmh signs were placed in error. This was 2002 though when the expressway was very new and I'd expect them to have sorted it out by now.

there was a loop hole in that road years ago a mate of mine in a v8 falcon got done at high speed his hot shot lawer found it something to do with it being a council road and not ltsa road cant remember exactly what but it was changed straight away so it couldnt happen again

madandy
9th January 2008, 06:53
Is there any chance of an out because the officer recorded that it happened on SH2 but the section of road is officially called Tamatea Arikinui drive?

The other thing, is there somewhere I can look up the official speed limit for this bit of road because I know someone who got a small speeding ticket for exceeding 80kmh on this exact road and later received a refund because the official speed limit was actually 100kmh and the 80kmh signs were placed in error. This was 2002 though when the expressway was very new and I'd expect them to have sorted it out by now.

Tamatea Arikinui Drive is part of SH2 and falls under Transit NZ 'jurisdiction' as it services the port of Tauranga.
It is most definately an 80km/h zone.
You got done. Accept it and invest in a RD & slow down :whistle:

MaxB
9th January 2008, 21:43
Nobody has mentioned that if you have been chraged with 'exceeding posted limit etc.' then you can avoid going to court by pleading guilty by letter. The court costs are added to your fine. You basically have a super sized speeding ticket.

It is up to you to choose your fights but if you cop this one you will have your licence back in a few weeks. Then grovel, pay the money, get 50 bonus points and be back riding soon as.

slopster
9th January 2008, 23:12
Nobody has mentioned that if you have been chraged with 'exceeding posted limit etc.' then you can avoid going to court by pleading guilty by letter. The court costs are added to your fine. You basically have a super sized speeding ticket.

It is up to you to choose your fights but if you cop this one you will have your licence back in a few weeks. Then grovel, pay the money, get 50 bonus points and be back riding soon as.

Are you sure of that because I'm in the army and if I have to go to court the boss has to come with me and it will be a lot more trouble then its worth. What happens in the hopefully unlikely event that I am disqualified? Do they tell me that by letter?

Patch
10th January 2008, 05:15
You'll get a letter and/or a personal visit to collect your permission slip to legally operate a vehicle on public roads.

Don't sweat it too bad - just be honest with your CO and he prob won't care too much.

steveb64
15th January 2008, 23:02
Are you sure of that because I'm in the army and if I have to go to court the boss has to come with me and it will be a lot more trouble then its worth. What happens in the hopefully unlikely event that I am disqualified? Do they tell me that by letter?

It's what I did. Wrote in pleading guilty, with an explanation of why I was going quite so quickly... Didn't have to front up in court, didn't lose my licence (well, only for the 28 days from when I gave it to the cop). DID get a fine of around $500. That was for 160 in a 100, no traffic, dry, previous ticket was 15 years previous (for 180), and ticket(s) were just for exceeding 100. That was a couple of years ago now...

Dunno about if the court disqualifies you - you may get a letter asking you to turn in your licence, or you may get some bailiff type knock on the door asking for it. YMMV.

slopster
18th March 2008, 21:24
Result:
$700+130 court costs, 50 demerits, no loss of licence.
Could be worse. Keep it to the back roads guys.

MaxB
18th March 2008, 22:14
And the 28-day walk. I still think that those roadside suspensions are the start of a slippery slope.

Good to see you back on the road.

bully
26th March 2008, 19:19
the speedway end is 100ks.
get a radar detector.

slimjim
26th March 2008, 21:37
well thank-fully your still in land of able, and not too heavly costed , lucky too ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,