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GSVR
29th December 2007, 06:39
Just wondering what the modern take is on good sportsmanship.
Watched the Burt Munro film on TV Christmas Eve and the film showed Burt turning up at Bonniville for Speedweek without having entered. After a bit of a hassle the Americans finally broke their rules and let him do a run the rest is history. Another reason they didn't want him running was the engineering on his bike was suspect and the tyres were old and cracked and they didn't want him killing himself. (Safety)
Just wondering if you've ever witnesssed some really good sportsmanship at the track.
ElCoyote
29th December 2007, 16:45
Just wondering what the modern take is on good sportsmanship.
Watched the Burt Munro film on TV Christmas Eve and the film showed Burt turning up at Bonniville for Speedweek without having entered. After a bit of a hassle the Americans finally broke their rules and let him do a run the rest is history. Another reason they didn't want him running was the engineering on his bike was suspect and the tyres were old and cracked and they didn't want him killing himself. (Safety)
Just wondering if you've ever witnesssed some really good sportsmanship at the track.
Let commomsense prevail and there would be no problems. Introduce ego's and politics and there is a disaster. New Zealand used to be known for it's liberal commonsense approach but that was before O.S.H and Uncle Helen. :nono:
Nonbeliever
29th December 2007, 18:17
Just wondering if you've ever witnesssed some really good sportsmanship at the track.
you mean like what happened at wanganui?? ...not
GSVR
30th December 2007, 03:59
you mean like what happened at wanganui?? ...not
Officials are not sportsmen.
I was thinking more about riders attitudes to other riders. To me a good sportsman wins and loses gracefully.
Best example I can think of this year is when Lewis Hamilton missed out on winning the F1 title.
A top rider once told me the closer you get to the top the worse things get. Friendships can be be very superficial and sometimes only made to futher ones own goals.
The more riders respect one anothers efforts the happier the racing experience will be for all.
When a sportsman has this respect for others it really shines out. eg Lewis Hamilton towards Kimi.
Opposite side of the F1 coin for me might be Shumacher brilliant driver no genuine respect win at any cost or act of bad sportsmanship.
GSVR
30th December 2007, 04:22
BTW what happend in this race forum over the past few days is about a low as you can go.
Karma is real and you better believe it.
White trash
30th December 2007, 08:28
Good Sportsmanship?
Dicing wheel to wheel with that codgy old Glen Williams for a race and a half. Finaly managed to make a pass stick and got a bit of a gap. Wouldn't have mattered who finished ahead of who, heaps of close but clean passes and re passes from both of us. Same later in the day with Neil Martin. All good mates when the chequered's shown.
Also, Craig Shirriffs willingness to stop and have a yarn about whatever's going on. Particularly good bastard despite being one of the fiercest competitors out there.
Robert Taylor
30th December 2007, 12:11
Officials are not sportsmen.
I was thinking more about riders attitudes to other riders. To me a good sportsman wins and loses gracefully.
Best example I can think of this year is when Lewis Hamilton missed out on winning the F1 title.
A top rider once told me the closer you get to the top the worse things get. Friendships can be be very superficial and sometimes only made to futher ones own goals.
The more riders respect one anothers efforts the happier the racing experience will be for all.
When a sportsman has this respect for others it really shines out. eg Lewis Hamilton towards Kimi.
Opposite side of the F1 coin for me might be Shumacher brilliant driver no genuine respect win at any cost or act of bad sportsmanship.
Garry, I agree with everything you have said including your successive post.
Ivan
30th December 2007, 14:32
Theres alot of it when you look at it..
2 momments for me have been
A guy at Vic Club winter Series when I was racing streetstock saw I was gutted that I caught a puncture and missed final race for day so he gave me his bike and said race it in F3 for me...
And Prize giving 05 Vic Winter Series Craig Sherriffs (SP)
calling me back up and giving me his helmet he won in his class, I still race in that helmet to this day and It made me think what a good guy he is.
GSVR
30th December 2007, 14:36
Theres alot of it when you look at it..
2 momments for me have been
A guy at Vic Club winter Series when I was racing streetstock saw I was gutted that I caught a puncture and missed final race for day so he gave me his bike and said race it in F3 for me...
And Prize giving 05 Vic Winter Series Craig Sherriffs (SP)
calling me back up and giving me his helmet he won in his class, I still race in that helmet to this day and It made me think what a good guy he is.
Yep I remember you getting the helmet well. My first year racing.
Riff Raff
30th December 2007, 14:46
I've observed a lot of good sportsmanship at club level. The rivalry is good natured, and no one thinks twice about sharing. I don't know how many times I've seen someone lend their bike to someone else so they can continue racing during the Winter series.
Mekk
30th December 2007, 14:50
I agree with most of what has been said. To me, sportsmanship is just respect. Respect for yourself, respect for your competitors.
Winning and losing should elate and hurt but it shouldn't interfere with the sport. The spirit and enjoyment of the competition should be what matters the most. It is that, after all, which draws us to compete in the first place.
skidMark
30th December 2007, 15:10
to sum it up...
help out the new guy ...hint hint.
bruce saw that and helped me out, when nobody else would.
he knew the meaning of sportsmanship.
Joni
30th December 2007, 15:19
Bert and Tims sidecar flipped at Wanganui picking up some damage in the process...over a dozen side car guys were there hammering and fixing to ensure they were back on the grid for the next race... helping where you can, standing together...
onearmedbandit
30th December 2007, 15:42
Bucket racing in Christchurch. Top bunch of guys who will give you shit at any oportunity, but before that they'll be helping you out with work on your bike, advice etc etc.
skidMark
30th December 2007, 15:53
actually same goes for white trash helping me out with advice on tyre pressures at the memortial trackday because my zxr was drfiting turn 1
problem being it did not have enough power to sustain it....so tried to highside me every damn time...
trash even lent me a tyre pressure gauge.
helping others is what it's all about.
trashy your a legend brother.
White trash
30th December 2007, 16:00
The crew from www.bikestore.co.nz and Frenchy spent all day Christmas eve making my bike mint again after tossing the thing the previous day at Puke'.
Eddy is constantly telling me to race his Superbike when mine's in various states of disrepair. Even sat out a race so I could use his good tyres when my rear turned out to be bung. Thoroughly good bastard.
GSVR
30th December 2007, 17:40
Just thinking back to Wanganui. A plea came over the PA that one of the sidecar oufits needed a clutch from a 2005 Yamaha R1 and asking if anyone could help out.
Imagine riding to the races lending your clutch to some crazy sidecar types then at the end of the day wacking it back in and heading home with a slipping clutch.
skidMark
30th December 2007, 18:03
Just thinking back to Wanganui. A plea came over the PA that one of the sidecar oufits needed a clutch from a 2005 Yamaha R1 and asking if anyone could help out.
Imagine riding to the races lending your clutch to some crazy sidecar types then at the end of the day wacking it back in and heading home with a slipping clutch.
the question is did anybody offer?
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