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Timaa
29th December 2007, 15:52
im looking at getting one. does anyone know when they will be released in new zealand? i cant wait. post your pics and opinions here...
Tim

jrandom
29th December 2007, 15:58
Sigh.

Probably never.

Look, it's just a two fiddy, right? Even if they do arrive, don't get desperate and waste your money on one.

Buy an RS250 if you want to have fun on a wee bike that you won't want to sell as soon as you can get on a bigger one, otherwise just hurry up, save your money and do your time on boring little shitters like we all had to, and get your full licence ASAP. Bikes with proper engines are a lot more fun.

disenfranchised
29th December 2007, 16:09
Look, it's just a two fiddy, right? Even if they do arrive, don't get desperate and waste your money on one.



I don't entirely agree with that.
As someone who got into riding at a later age than some (29 so not old..but old-er), I've been thinking about what to do with my bike now that I've been riding a while.

While my 250 no longer seems fast like it did when I started, there's still plenty for me to improve on...cornering mostly...I ride like a nana, cause I'm acutely aware of how much I have to lose.

So saying that I probably wont get my full license for quite a while yet.

And if you're going to have anything for a while, it might as well be something you like!!!

jrandom
29th December 2007, 16:18
While my 250 no longer seems fast like it did when I started, there's still plenty for me to improve on...cornering mostly...I ride like a nana, cause I'm acutely aware of how much I have to lose.

Apart from the Aprilia RS, there aren't any 250s on the market that will handle as well as a new 600. If you're concerned about cornering performance, get shot of your 250 as fast as possible. The overly-basic suspension and the fact that you can't get properly sticky tyres in the right sizes will fuck you over if you want to ride with sprotbikes in the twisties.


So saying that I probably wont get my full license for quite a while yet.

Jeez, man, just do it. 250ccs is entirely the wrong displacement for a four-stroke motorcycle engine.

skidMark
29th December 2007, 16:20
it's a bloodey gpx with pretty fairings...

they are gutless and slow and the suspension is rubbish.

not one of kawasakis accomplishments.

they are a sports styled commuter

not a sportsbike...

always a scuker to buy em tho.

EJK
29th December 2007, 16:24
it's a bloodey gpx with pretty fairings...

they are gutless and slow and the suspension is rubbish.

not one of kawasakis accomplishments.

they are a sports styled commuter

not a sportsbike...

always a scuker to buy em tho.

Guess you've owned it before? atleast had a test rode one? :pinch:

skidMark
29th December 2007, 16:28
Guess you've owned it before? atleast had a test rode one? :pinch:


yes owned one.....had it a few months saved like a jew on crack and got a zxr and never looked back..what a difference...

zxr's actually go round corners. not just bop up n down like a boat.

Taz
29th December 2007, 16:32
Yes we'd all prefer a 17 year old blown up ZXR250 to a nice new reliable GPX any day eh? The 07 GPX is a great bike and cheap as chips especially when compared to an old poked CBR/ZXR and still a capable bike for honing your skills on. The 2008 bike can only be better IMO.

skidMark
29th December 2007, 17:24
Yes we'd all prefer a 17 year old blown up ZXR250 to a nice new reliable GPX any day eh? The 07 GPX is a great bike and cheap as chips especially when compared to an old poked CBR/ZXR and still a capable bike for honing your skills on. The 2008 bike can only be better IMO.

zxr would whoop it whichever way you look at it....

but the suspension is rubbish and they are a slug, would ratherhave a zxr.

a proper sportsbike

not whats basically a parralell twin engined bike with suspension as bad if not worse than a gn250. with pretty bits of plastie to make it a sports bike.

only reason my zxr went bang is because i did not check engine oil level before i went on the track...it was low...crank didn't get enough oil...fucked a bearing and the crank.

shit happens.

gpx is still rubbish.

it's fucking great for round town and picking up girls sure

but on a twisty country road it's a death trap.

i don't trust non low profile tyres...personnal preferance.

low profiles give you alot more feel of the road.


rant over ...as you were....for now

jrandom
29th December 2007, 17:31
the suspension is rubbish and they are a slug, would ratherhave a zxr.

...

only reason my zxr went bang is because i did not check engine oil level before i went on the track...it was low...crank didn't get enough oil...fucked a bearing and the crank.

...

it's fucking great for round town and picking up girls sure

but on a twisty country road it's a death trap.

i don't trust non low profile tyres...personnal preferance.

low profiles give you alot more feel of the road.

:niceone:

skidMark's not stupid, folks, he does understand the 'motorcycling' thing. He just suffers from an excess of testosterone and a severe deficiency of zen.

In relation to your last point, Mark, I'm with you on that one, although road feel also has an awful lot to do with many different aspects of tyre construction (not just profile) and the bike's suspension and geometry.

Anyway, the point I'd make in relation to the 'new' Kawasaki 250 is that when one can buy a GSF or SV 650 brand new for $11,000, spending $8,000 on a 250cc bike that is inferior in every respect seems silly.

skidMark
29th December 2007, 17:47
:niceone:

skidMark's not stupid, folks, he does understand the 'motorcycling' thing. He just suffers from an excess of testosterone and a severe deficiency of zen.

In relation to your last point, Mark, I'm with you on that one, although road feel also has an awful lot to do with many different aspects of tyre construction (not just profile) and the bike's suspension and geometry.

Anyway, the point I'd make in relation to the 'new' Kawasaki 250 is that when one can buy a GSF or SV 650 brand new for $11,000, spending $8,000 on a 250cc bike that is inferior in every respect seems silly.


exactly so ya buy a zxr...it holds it's value provided you don't be a muppet and blow it up like me.

then get full and buy a proper bike,250's are just toys.

The Pastor
29th December 2007, 19:58
i was speaking to a kawasaki warehouse manager, and he said the new 250 is coming / on order. Expect to see it within a few months

Morcs
29th December 2007, 20:04
a proper sportsbike


a 250? a 20 year old bag of shit at that.




it's fucking great for round town and picking up girls sure


You'd know a lot about that eh.



but on a twisty country road it's a death trap.

How so? If that were the case they would not be allowed to be sold.

A goldwing could be seen as a death trap in twisties. Still would be safer and faster than you...

HTFU
30th December 2007, 15:35
I ride about 300km a week on a 2007 GPX. Has kenda touring tyres on it now and handles well. I am 75kg so suspension is not an issue for the touring type riding I do. It will sit on 120 indicated speed all day (or at least for 330km, at which point the 15 litre tank needs to be switched to reserve).

If you are less than 175cm tall and are not festivally plump then a GPX will be fine. $6000 on a new 2007 one vs $8000 or what ever the 2008 will be, quite the difference though.

If the Suzuki GS 500 was around a few months ago I may have gone for it over the GPX but then again it was still another $2000 dollars.

A 250 twin 4 stroke makes a good commuter bike and ideal to learn some good riding skills on. $6000 is what you would expect a new one to be if you consider a new 500 twin is $7800, a 650 single dually is $8000 and a 650 twin is $9999. All options I considered before going with another 250.

IMHO you can't beat having something from new.

zeocen
30th December 2007, 16:07
I had a blast on my $2,500 gpx.. it's juat a little reliable bike, I got some sweet peg scrapage on the little bugger and kept up with the pack in the twisties. Maybe if you rode the bikes instead of crashing them, Mark, we would hold your opinion with weight.

Not everyone is wanting to overtake on blind corners having an epileptic fit trying to get a knee down like you. The gpx is fine for 99% of riders.

The new one I hear has a 17" rear now, which means it can sport Avon roadrunners on both front and back. Great tyres for commuting/twisties in normal person speed.

I'm not a fan of the new ones, they look like a midget 650r, I would personally just get a zzr250.. but I'm a fanboy with a limited pocket! :P

/edit: I'm 6'2 ~95kg, gpx was fine.. cramped on road to say, coro but not unbearable.

imdying
30th December 2007, 17:53
I've seen one in the flesh, and mate, they are the biggest case of mutton dressed as lamb I've ever seen.

I knew this day would come... so here it is 'I would rather have a Hyosung 250 than one of those'.

Well, I'd rather have an RGV, but you know... some girls still wanna buy 4 strokes, and I can understand that :lol:

Taz
30th December 2007, 20:23
But have you ridden one??

imdying
30th December 2007, 21:11
I've ridden a GPX250, which, under the new paint, is what you're getting.

*cough* buy a 2 stroke cough*

disenfranchised
31st December 2007, 08:51
Jeez, man, just do it. 250ccs is entirely the wrong displacement for a four-stroke motorcycle engine.

Why??
Or more to the point why rush?

I'm still happy with my 250.
I'd have to pay for the license upgarde.
And then buy a new bike - losing money on the trade-in or sale of my current one...and it's still being paid off, so forget about the trade-in half paying for the next one.

Just a good way to throw away a lot of cash

jrandom
31st December 2007, 09:02
Why??
Or more to the point why rush?

No rush, really. Just sayin'. 250ccs is just too small for a four-stroke motorcycle engine. Just a wee bit too small. And the two fiddy market is all fucked up price-wise. It's best to get out of it ASAP. For example, the GS500 is a great bulletproof all-purpose thrasher, and can be bought brand new for less than one of these 'ZX2Rs' will go for.


I'd have to pay for the license upgarde.
And then buy a new bike... Just a good way to throw away a lot of cash

I applaud your sensible fiscal approach.

(By the way - you could probably buy my '99 GSX-R750 for about the same amount that you could get for your Hyosung.)

;)

vtec
31st December 2007, 09:29
The best rider in the world on a GPX250 wouldn't come close to a good club racer on an "old poked" ZXR/CBR250 (mc22). At the last PMCC round I managed 7th out of 24 on my bog standard road bike 1990 CBR250RR against mostly SV650's in F3. I'd like to see a GPX do better than 20th out of 24.

zeocen
31st December 2007, 10:38
I don't think just because it looks racey with 17" rear instead if 16", it doesn't automatically mean it think it's fast. I think Hyosung proved that.
It's a good looking bike (if you're into anorexic bikes) that does well. that's all.

FilthyLuka
31st December 2007, 11:17
The best rider in the world on a GPX250 wouldn't come close to a good club racer on an "old poked" ZXR/CBR250 (mc22). At the last PMCC round I managed 7th out of 24 on my bog standard road bike 1990 CBR250RR against mostly SV650's in F3. I'd like to see a GPX do better than 20th out of 24.

Next you will want me to come 3rd on my GN

ITS NOT WHAT ITS MADE FOR!

Dude, it has "sports bike styling," whopdee shit. If i had the cash i would buy a gpx250 new just for the warranty, service and the fact that i know its not going to randomly throw a big end bearing (eh skidmark ;) )

Wait a second, no i wouldn't, id buy a broken arse GN250 and live with it untill a got my full, then i'd buy a RSV :laugh: (dreams are free i guess)

Horses for courses people, 250 market is shite, but theres nothing we can do about it. And comparing a 250 parralell twin designed for learners to a high revving inline four 250 or a filthy ninga ninga isn't really acheiving anything now is it? Its like comparing a gn to a Kawasaki H2A, sure they look kinda similar (not really but you get my point), but the bikes are completely different...

Personally i like the new GPX. Althought the hyobag does look better

scott411
21st January 2008, 07:35
the 1st shipment arrives this week, price $6995,

i have a spare one if any body wants one,

CaMo
21st January 2008, 07:54
If you already been riding a 250 for a while and still on learners or restricted, wouldn't an upgrade be going to a RGV, RS or NSR. Something a little more sports like?

Depends on what your using it for I guess

dave_a
21st January 2008, 23:06
OMG http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports/auction-137236010.htm?key=1400260

RantyDave
22nd January 2008, 06:12
the 1st shipment arrives this week, price $6995
As I see it, the newbies are going to look at this and go "$7k for a Kawasaki, $7.4k for a Hyosung ... who the fuck are Hyosung?" and that'll be that. Of course there are other factors to consider - like what the bike shop is like, whether or not you can fit on the Hyosung (which is kinda big for a noobs bike, let's face it). You also have to wonder what happens when someone starts searching for threads on exploded Hyosungs vs exploded GPX250's.

I think what Kwaka have done is extremely smart, to be honest.

Dave

scott411
22nd January 2008, 08:23
by the way, i screwed up when i put the bike on trade me, they are a 6 speed,

(i am part owner of Mr Motorcycles if anyone does not realise)

delusionz
22nd January 2008, 09:39
once again Mark, stop saying every kawasaki with a p-twin is exactly like a gpx with different fairings...

How many times are you going to plaster that all over KB? You seriously have it in for my bike or something...

imdying
22nd January 2008, 09:59
It's amazing how awesome it looks in the pictures, and yet so average in the flesh. Should be a great learners/commute bike regardless :yes:

scott411
23rd January 2008, 08:36
In Store Now,

Taz
25th January 2008, 18:43
If you already been riding a 250 for a while and still on learners or restricted, wouldn't an upgrade be going to a RGV, RS or NSR. Something a little more sports like?

Depends on what your using it for I guess

Hmmm let me see. Nice new reliable Kawasaki or fucked and thrashed old 2 stroke which will cost a heap in maintenance...... No competition really in my opinion.
Andy.

dave_a
25th January 2008, 18:51
It's amazing how awesome it looks in the pictures, and yet so average in the flesh. Should be a great learners/commute bike regardless :yes:

you sure you got the right bike?

its beautiful