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Conquiztador
2nd January 2008, 10:12
Often I see "repost" mentioned when someone starts a thread or does a posting.

KB has new people joining all the time. Just have a look at the amount of postings the members have who contribute on this side. Sure, there is the ones who have 1000+ postings (and will remember a discussion that was held 2 yars ago) But many are new members and for them any discussion they participate in is something new. Personally I really dislike the "repost" that others attach to a posting/thread that some newer member of this site enthusiastically contibutes. What more does the "repost" signal then that you do not have dementia and you probably should do something better with your time?

How could there ever be a thread/posting that has already been done? It is like saying that just because you have ridden a road once there is no reason to do so again. But we all know that there is so many variables that will change the experience even if the same road is ridden daily: The weather, time of day/night, other travellers, our moode, condition of our bike, tyres, and list goes on. Exactly same thing regarding a thread/posting. New members joining in, perhaps there has been a new development regarding the issue, our situation has changed, we have changed our mind, the replies will be totally different, etc.

I often find it insulting that a "older" member plasters "repost" on to a posting/thread of a new member who after some consideration has decided to join in. This can at times be daunting for someone new, but they have decided to take the plunge, only to be smacked with "repost" because someone who should have moved on years ago has a elephant memory and too much time on their hands.

Instead of focusing on picking others postings to pieces and trawling through the search function to find that, in fact, in November 2004 some obscure member posted a very similar posting, instead of this should you not be out riding?

(I am sure that this has been done before and so I am waiting for the repost label by the most observant here...)

sAsLEX
2nd January 2008, 10:15
Is lane splitting legal?


Does KB have a search function?


These two questions help answer yours.

The Pastor
2nd January 2008, 10:20
Search Motherf$^ker do you use it?

Conquiztador
2nd January 2008, 10:21
Is lane splitting legal?


Does KB have a search function?


These two questions help answer yours.

Not so much a question but a statement. As I mentioned, any posting will get a reply (mostly anyhow) and it will be different to the last time a similar posting was done. So something totally different will come out of it.

You will go to a race meeting even if you went there last year. You would never say: Nah, seen it.

The Pastor
2nd January 2008, 10:22
This thread is a repost.

Conquiztador
2nd January 2008, 10:25
This thread is a repost.

You managed to stop the urge for 10 minutes. There is still hope...

The Lone Rider
2nd January 2008, 10:28
This thread is a repost.

Damn, beat me to it!

Conquiztador
2nd January 2008, 10:32
It s a badge of honour that you can show to the others who have passed their "Best by" date on here? Perhaps by plastering "Repost" you have taken the step in to an imaginary exclusive circle only for the ones who know it all?

sAsLEX
2nd January 2008, 10:33
Not so much a question but a statement. As I mentioned, any posting will get a reply (mostly anyhow) and it will be different to the last time a similar posting was done. So something totally different will come out of it.

You will go to a race meeting even if you went there last year. You would never say: Nah, seen it.

so one has a problem with there NC30 say?

They can search an find http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=9257&highlight=dirty+NC30&page=2


No you see how nearly a year after the second post I added the solution.....


In much the same way old threads of topics continually addressed can be added to and new opinions appended rather than going through the same stuff over and over.

Motu
2nd January 2008, 10:34
I went for a ride yesterday and saw 8.43 bikes,and two of them didn't wave at me - why didn't they wave at me? I was very offended,could we have a discussion about this please?

Conquiztador
2nd January 2008, 10:38
so one has a problem with there NC30 say?

They can search an find http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=9257&highlight=dirty+NC30&page=2


No you see how nearly a year after the second post I added the solution.....


In much the same way old threads of topics continually addressed can be added to and new opinions appended rather than going through the same stuff over and over.

I have no problem with the "Search" function. It is brilliant when trying to find a solution to a problem with a bike as there is a big chance that the issue on an older bike has already been experienced and solved by someone else. A left thred nut will always be a left thread nut.

But apart from techical information, there is no going over and over the same stuff. It is all new. And even re many technical stuff, technology changes.

Ixion
2nd January 2008, 10:39
so one has a problem with there NC30 say?

They can search an find http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=9257&highlight=dirty+NC30&page=2


No you see how nearly a year after the second post I added the solution.....


In much the same way old threads of topics continually addressed can be added to and new opinions appended rather than going through the same stuff over and over.

Arggh. THREAD DREDGING. Burn him !

canarlee
2nd January 2008, 10:41
it seems that some people have "repost" on permanent cut and paste, farkin sad if you ask me..............but then you didnt ask me did ya.

The Pastor
2nd January 2008, 10:43
I went for a ride yesterday and saw 8.43 bikes,and two of them didn't wave at me - why didn't they wave at me? I was very offended,could we have a discussion about this please?
I think its because you wernt wearing a high vis jacket, people dont want to wave to people who are soo unsafe by not wearing the high vis jackets.

Conquiztador
2nd January 2008, 10:47
I went for a ride yesterday and saw 8.43 bikes,and two of them didn't wave at me - why didn't they wave at me? I was very offended,could we have a discussion about this please?

Absolutley! Be my guest and start a thread and I will give you my input re why you were left out of the brotherhood by these savages.

But more seriously: You would already know the reasons (If you dont, then there is no hope...) But someone on their first shining 250cc straight out of the shop might find this confusing and perhaps not have the understanding. Therefore he/she would turn to the KB site to ask the question. Personally I would have no problems telling him/her on here my look at it. As I also would think you would do. And why not? Just becasue we have been riding for 40 years there is no need to forget the days when we started and all the questions we had. Instead of being bigheaded re it why not provide answers and help (as mostly is done on here, I have no problem with that part, and I do find that Newbies are threated really well by the majority on here, you included)

Ronin
2nd January 2008, 10:49
I went for a ride yesterday and saw 8.43 bikes,and two of them didn't wave at me - why didn't they wave at me? I was very offended,could we have a discussion about this please?

Perhaps there should be a special KB wave? :Punk:

Conquiztador
2nd January 2008, 10:55
Search Motherf$^ker do you use it?

Why would I want to search for Motherf$^ker? And no, I would never use one.

The Pastor
2nd January 2008, 10:59
Why would I want to search for Motherf$^ker? And no, I would never use one.
i'd give you bling if i wernt so heavily infracted!

sAsLEX
2nd January 2008, 11:08
But apart from techical information, there is no going over and over the same stuff. It is all new. And even re many technical stuff, technology changes.

hmm yip no beer threads recently on here no siree one would hate to read how the Tuatara Indian Pale Ale far exceeds the pale weak urine of Tui



But more seriously: You would already know the reasons (If you dont, then there is no hope...) But someone on their first shining 250cc straight out of the shop might find this confusing and perhaps not have the understanding. Therefore he/she would turn to the KB site to ask the question. Personally I would have no problems telling him/her on here my look at it. As I also would think you would do. And why not? Just becasue we have been riding for 40 years there is no need to forget the days when we started and all the questions we had. Instead of being bigheaded re it why not provide answers and help (as mostly is done on here, I have no problem with that part, and I do find that Newbies are threated really well by the majority on here, you included)

And no it was because he was on a chook chaser more than likely and the elitist sprotsbike riders don't wave to anyone other than sprotbikes

Conquiztador
2nd January 2008, 11:17
hmm yip no beer threads recently on here no siree one would hate to read how the Tuatara Indian Pale Ale far exceeds the pale weak urine of Tui
Interesting. Personally I have never trialled the Tuatara. And I find the Tui too sweet. But again, new members will join in with other views and perhaps even you (clearly a beer connoisseur) might learn something of value?




And no it was because he was on a chook chaser more than likely and the elitist sprotsbike riders don't wave to anyone other than sprotbikes
"Sprotbike" riders have always been the odd ones out...

Kendog
2nd January 2008, 11:18
trawling through the search function to find that, in fact, in November 2004 some obscure member posted a very similar posting, instead of this should you not be out riding?

Only took 30 odd seconds to find this. (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=36107&highlight=repost)

Conquiztador
2nd January 2008, 11:27
Only took 30 odd seconds to find this. (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=36107&highlight=repost)

I know. But the interesting question is why? OK, so this thread is a given as it is in regards to the "repost" issue. But with other threads, why would someone do the search so they can plaster repost on to a post/thread? Whats in it? Show off? Gloating? Boredom? Mental illness? One hand free? A will to destroy the world?

sAsLEX
2nd January 2008, 11:32
I know. But the interesting question is why? OK, so this thread is a given as it is in regards to the "repost" issue. But with other threads, why would someone do the search so they can plaster repost on to a post/thread? Whats in it? Show off? Gloating? Boredom? Mental illness? One hand free? A will to destroy the world?

One suggested that is was a kinda sport for those who spend too much time on here........ in the thread that you reposted.....

Kendog
2nd January 2008, 11:34
I know. But the interesting question is why? OK, so this thread is a given as it is in regards to the "repost" issue. But with other threads, why would someone do the search so they can plaster repost on to a post/thread? Whats in it? Show off? Gloating? Boredom? Mental illness? One hand free? A will to destroy the world?

Putting others down is the kiwi way I guess, sad but true.

But I hope it's more to do with pointing out the vast amount of information that is probably already available here on a given topic. Why should someone that started a thread or posted in a thread have to repeat themselves because someone was too lazy to search?

Virago
2nd January 2008, 11:41
There is no doubt that some people take the whole Repost thing too far. But in answer to your question, there is indeed such a thing as a Repost.

A forum like KiwiBiker is a busy place. There is so much to read and look at. Most of us would find that they have to balance time on the site, with other interests or duties. Being able to surf the site without being subjected to the same tired old jokes, or viewing the same regurgitated bike crash photos, is a key part of maximising people's enjoyment of the site.

Yes, there may be some who haven't seen it before, but the majority have, so why subject them to the same tired old stuff over and over again?

The process is a key part of "Forum Netiquette", which is referred to in the site rules.

The "search before you post" requirement is not difficult or onerous.

Most of us have been caught by the "repost" thing at some stage, and perhaps been growled at. It's not a biggie. Move on.

Storm
2nd January 2008, 12:02
And then ,when you post in a 3 year old thread that you searched for, the repost crew will change hats and yell "THREAD DREDGER"

How the fark can you win?

Virago
2nd January 2008, 12:15
Thread dredging is the other side of the coin.

If you've got a new and valuable input to a previously discussed issue, then no problem.

If you dredge up an ancient thread, just to post "I agree", or "Me too", then expect a kicking.

Similarly, dredging up a three-year-old crash thread and posting "Get well soon" will result in some rather grumpy responses.

Again, it's not a biggie. Get over it.

boomer
2nd January 2008, 12:29
The "search before you post" requirement is not difficult or onerous.


Obviously it is for Conquiztador! maybe there should be a quiz at time of sign on; if you're too stupid you don't get in.... huh Conquiztador??!!

This of course shouldn't count for members with over 2500 bike posts who are in the top 10 most positively repped.

Conquiztador
2nd January 2008, 12:36
Obviously it is for Conquiztador! maybe there should be a quiz at time of sign on; if you're too stupid you don't get in.... huh Conquiztador??!!

This of course shouldn't count for members with over 2500 bike posts who are in the top 10 most positively repped.

Perhaps a thread you could start? And provide info in as clearly you are qualified...

merv
2nd January 2008, 12:41
I went for a ride yesterday and saw 8.43 bikes,and two of them didn't wave at me - why didn't they wave at me? I was very offended,could we have a discussion about this please?

Mate it must be us dirt bikers we must use the wrong deodorant or something, because yesterday out on my VFR I must have passed more like 40 bikers and maybe half waved and the ones that didn't were mainly sportbike or BMW riders and a few Harley riders. Most harley riders waved. Now how did they know I was a dirt bike rider when I was on my road bike? Would a search find the answer to this mystery and is it a repost?

Motig
2nd January 2008, 12:42
So the Kiwibiker forums can be closed down then? Because probably 90% of the topics have probably been on before (Sorry but I didn't do a search to check that:confused:). And then of course theres this constant repeating of the same words but in different orders...............:devil2:

canarlee
2nd January 2008, 12:52
So the Kiwibiker forums can be closed down then? Because probably 90% of the topics have probably been on before:

bingo, and that goes for just about every other web forum.




well thats it then isnt it, the internet is now useless. well we have seen it all before havent we.......?

Conquiztador
2nd January 2008, 12:55
Had quick look at found this interesting:

Before 1/1 -07 4530 members joined (that is in 5 years)
After 1/1 -07 (as at now) 4410 members joined.

So close to 50% of the joined members are less then one year old on here.

And one would assume that there is a bigger drop off in the old members category then with the ones a year old here or less.

boomer
2nd January 2008, 13:22
Had quick look at found this interesting:

Before 1/1 -07 4530 members joined (that is in 5 years)
After 1/1 -07 (as at now) 4410 members joined.

So close to 50% of the joined members are less then one year old on here.

And one would assume that there is a bigger drop off in the old members category then with the ones a year old here or less.

Are you feeling inadequate? You're making yourself look that way.

Conquiztador
2nd January 2008, 13:30
Are you feeling inadequate? You're making yourself look that way.

Lol. I do give a flying fuck how you perceive me. I am just pointing out something that I was thinking would be obvious. But for you:

With 50% of the members less then one year old on here, most issues that are posted would be new to them.

boomer
2nd January 2008, 13:39
Lol. I do give a flying fuck how you perceive me. I am just pointing out something that I was thinking would be obvious. But for you:

With 50% of the members less then one year old on here, most issues that are posted would be new to them.




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T O O K

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it's not a fookin chat room you muppet!





The attached will help you no end

spookytooth
2nd January 2008, 13:44
then theres the likes of me who computors are kinda a new fangled thingy and search buttons are not my friend nor are keyboards that have no idea how the letters should be layed out {a dig at the speeling police}
:)

boomer
2nd January 2008, 13:46
then theres the likes of me who computors are kinda a new fangled thingy and search buttons are not my friend nor are keyboards that have no idea how the letters should be layed out {a dig at the speeling police}
:)

in your case, the cruel bastads at your rest home should remove said pc and replace it with a xylophone.

rwh
2nd January 2008, 13:51
it's not a fookin chat room you muppet!


It's a lot closer to a chat room than an encyclopaedia.

I think that's part of the problem - it's a forum, so no matter what the content, it's forced into a forum shape. And reading old threads isn't the best way to find stuff out. It's hard to index, too.

Perhaps it would be better if the site had a wiki section as well, that long-standing info could go in? After a thread, someone could edit it all up nicely and stuff it in the wiki - adding to previous articles if necessary.

Of course, there's work involved in that, so it probably won't happen ... but I think it's not very helpful to hassle people trying to find info in the wrong kind of medium.

[Edit: actually I hate wikis too, but they let the work be spread around a bit, so they fall somewhere in between a forum and a proper 'knowledge base' (hate that term too, but can't think of a better one)]

Richard

spookytooth
2nd January 2008, 13:55
in your case, the cruel bastads at your rest home should remove said pc and replace it with a xylophone.
well they tried that but we stole em back no one had the wind to blow the xylophone. Opps you hit them not blow on them.

boomer
2nd January 2008, 13:57
It's a lot closer to a chat room than an encyclopaedia.

I'm sorry; where did i state it was an encyclopedia? :confused:




... but I think it's not very helpful to hassle people trying to find info in the wrong kind of medium.

Richard

here...for you Richard ! (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/faq.php?faq=vb_faq#faq_vb_board_usage) Unfortunately, it's all too easy for people to ask questions first without looking; Imagine how annoying that becomes after a while?

Edbear
2nd January 2008, 13:58
With 50% of the members less then one year old on here, most issues that are posted would be new to them.



:clap::yes:

rwh
2nd January 2008, 14:08
I'm sorry; where did i state it was an encyclopedia? :confused:

You didn't, but the claim is that people should search it. I'm saying that the best thing to search for info in is an encyclopaedia, and that records of informal discussions aren't so good.


here...for you Richard ! (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/faq.php?faq=vb_faq#faq_vb_board_usage) Unfortunately, it's all too easy for people to ask questions first without looking; Imagine how annoying that becomes after a while?

I realise there is a search button. My point is that an informal discussion uses varied terms, and has them scattered all over the place, so the results of the search is somewhat mixed. A properly indexed encyclopaedia (for want of a better term) would let you look up (for example) 'cam shaft' without finding a post like 'I got shaft edat teh cam pings ite' which isn't very useful ... Not the best example, but hopefully you get my point.

Richard

Conquiztador
2nd January 2008, 14:27
T H E Y

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N E W ( issues )

I F

T H E

M E M B E R S ( you talk of )

T O O K

T H E

T I M E

T O

R E A D

T H E

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it's not a fookin chat room you muppet!





The attached will help you no end

Thank you. For the nice colours. Now I understand why it took you so long to post that message.


"A site for all NZ motorcyclists" it says. Chat = easy familiar talk. So that then would mean that, as one assumes most bikers are familiar with motorcycling and would find the issues to be rather easy familiar to talk about, they have all come to the wrong place???

And in regards to you referring to me as a muppet, you must be a delight to have around for dinner...

boomer
2nd January 2008, 14:33
...you must be a delight to have around for dinner...

I thought the Maori's stopped eating people a few decades ago ... :Oops:

Virago
2nd January 2008, 14:40
...Before 1/1 -07 4530 members joined (that is in 5 years)
After 1/1 -07 (as at now) 4410 members joined.

So close to 50% of the joined members are less then one year old on here...

Your logic is fundamentally flawed.

Okay. Plucking figures out of the air here, approximately one million NZers watched One News at 6pm yesterday. So that means three million didn't. Using your logic, TVNZ should re-play last night's news at 6pm tonight, for the benefit of the three million...? And the same again tomorrow night?

The exponential growth of the site is all the more reason to control tedious reposts, if the site is to be kept readable for all.

Conquiztador
2nd January 2008, 14:45
I thought the Maori's stopped eating people a few decades ago ... :Oops:

"it's not a fookin chat room you muppet!" He says and then goes totally off track. Perhaps time, honki boy, that you had a re-read of the site rules and in particular re posting etiquette (You seem to be familiar with the search feature so I am sure you can sort that out)

And see, I am sure that in your search of the "repost" threads you would not have come across this delightful excange of chat before.

I therefore hereby conclude that there is no reposts!!

Ixion
2nd January 2008, 14:51
Your logic is fundamentally flawed.

Okay. Plucking figures out of the air here, approximately one million NZers watched One News at 6pm yesterday. So that means three million didn't. Using your logic, TVNZ should re-play last night's news at 6pm tonight, for the benefit of the three million...? And the same again tomorrow night?

The exponential growth of the site is all the more reason to control tedious reposts, if the site is to be kept readable for all.

Your logic is fundamentally flawed

"News" by definition is news. By tomorrow, it is 'stale', no longer news. Matters propounded here are seldom "news" . Except of course, to new riders who have not heard it before. And may obtain great benefit from some matter being explained to them.

It will come as a shock to you, I know, but the purpose of the site is not, and should not, be restricted to what YOU, personally, consider interesting.

A discussion on braking or countersteering, I have no doubt, you will consider as a "tedious repost". To the newbie , wondering how he is expected to get round a corner, or how he should stop in an emergency, that "tedious repost" may well be a (literally) life saving revelation. And as said newbie has probably never heard of "counter steering" it is scarcely fair to condemn him for not searching for it.

Your argument would mean that no new member was permitted to ask any question or make any observation until he had read every post ever made (and followed every link therein) . By your own observation, this is no longer practical.

And, sometimes, a question or observation may make even the most experienced reconsider matters. Unlike you, I do not think that I know it all, and I am always happy to consider the input of the newer rider (and assist if I can) .

The arrogant know-it-alls who condemn such "tedous reposts" have the answer at their fingertips. Don't read them. Sorted.

Conquiztador
2nd January 2008, 14:54
Your logic is fundamentally flawed.

Okay. Plucking figures out of the air here, approximately one million NZers watched One News at 6pm yesterday. So that means three million didn't. Using your logic, TVNZ should re-play last night's news at 6pm tonight, for the benefit of the three million...? And the same again tomorrow night?

The exponential growth of the site is all the more reason to control tedious reposts, if the site is to be kept readable for all.

Hmmm..logic. I like logic. But when you use logic you must take all in to account. In your example you foget that there is new news coming every day and we will tune in to the news to find out re news (that's was the word means: New stuff). Also, more ppl watch TV3 news today...

But you are mere proving my point: People who did not watch the news yesterday missed the info. Therefore they would be happy to see stuff that they missed and that was/is still current. The ones you should worry about are the one million that have already seen it. But they could always change channels. What a brilliant idea: We can also do it on here!! But it is soo much simpler! If you see a thread with stuff you have already been through, then just ignore it!!! Now that is Nobel prize stuff!!!

Virago
2nd January 2008, 15:09
...Your argument would mean that no new member was permitted to ask any question or make any observation until he had read every post ever made (and followed every link therein) . By your own observation, this is no longer practical...

Point taken. But a basic rudimentary search before posting is not unreasonable. Those who choose not to shouldn't complain when the repost sheriffs come out with guns blazing.

From personal experience I've been caught out by posting without searching, and got the "Repost...!" response. It's not a biggie, I can't understand why people get so wound up about it.

The Pastor
2nd January 2008, 16:52
posting a "repost" makes me feel important.

Storm
2nd January 2008, 20:01
Finally! Some honesty:bleh:

EnzoYug
4th January 2008, 15:58
... getting to the truth is always a sticky matter. So sticky in fact that I have no time for an interest in it. I have a job. But just to set you in the right direction:

There are two opposing and equally powerful arguments in play here. Unfortunately they're both wrong.

James Deuce
4th January 2008, 16:22
Often I see "repost" mentioned when someone starts a thread or does a posting.

KB has new people joining all the time. Just have a look at the amount of postings the members have who contribute on this side. Sure, there is the ones who have 1000+ postings (and will remember a discussion that was held 2 yars ago) But many are new members and for them any discussion they participate in is something new. Personally I really dislike the "repost" that others attach to a posting/thread that some newer member of this site enthusiastically contibutes. What more does the "repost" signal then that you do not have dementia and you probably should do something better with your time?

How could there ever be a thread/posting that has already been done? It is like saying that just because you have ridden a road once there is no reason to do so again. But we all know that there is so many variables that will change the experience even if the same road is ridden daily: The weather, time of day/night, other travellers, our moode, condition of our bike, tyres, and list goes on. Exactly same thing regarding a thread/posting. New members joining in, perhaps there has been a new development regarding the issue, our situation has changed, we have changed our mind, the replies will be totally different, etc.

I often find it insulting that a "older" member plasters "repost" on to a posting/thread of a new member who after some consideration has decided to join in. This can at times be daunting for someone new, but they have decided to take the plunge, only to be smacked with "repost" because someone who should have moved on years ago has a elephant memory and too much time on their hands.

Instead of focusing on picking others postings to pieces and trawling through the search function to find that, in fact, in November 2004 some obscure member posted a very similar posting, instead of this should you not be out riding?

(I am sure that this has been done before and so I am waiting for the repost label by the most observant here...)

Typical motorcyclist. It's all about you, isn't it?

Swoop
4th January 2008, 19:46
If you also think about the attachments to a post/thread, then this takes up more of Spanks' server space.

A quick use of the "search" button is wise, on virtually any topic.

FJRider
4th January 2008, 20:06
This of course shouldn't count for members with over 2500 bike posts who are in the top 10 most positively repped.

If the quiz WAS the requirement to be a member, there Would'nt be as many with over 2500 posts. Be wary of those who state in their profile... DREAMING...they generally ARE !!!

boomer
4th January 2008, 20:40
If the quiz WAS the requirement to be a member, there Would'nt be as many with over 2500 posts. Be wary of those who state in their profile... DREAMING...they generally ARE !!!

What's that scooter boy?

Conquiztador
1st June 2008, 08:55
Am I after a year on KB becoming an "oldie"??? I am finding that there is a growing number of threads started by new-ish members where I have already participated in the subject/answered the questions in an "old" thread, and where my look at the issue/my personal situation has been taken as far as I have any interest in.

This means, that when I see such a thread started I have a quick glance, but almost always decide not to post, as it becomes a little like de-javu all over again.

It probably flattens the enjoyment of being part of KB a fraction. But I am more then happy for these threads to live their life and then go to that scrapheap where all my brilliant threads have also been sucked as they have reached their "best before date".

I recon that it is all part of the KB experience. And there is no harm in it anyhow. It also allows newer members to become part of this all.

So my look at this is that let the threads be posted, and if you have said all you want re the subject in an earlier thred, post the link, or just select not to participate.

It also makes the challenge to come up with something that has not been disected on here before so much greater. And there is a strange feel of achievement when ones minds takes us to places where nobody has yet threaded.

And yes, I realise the irony in this thread haven been done before. It's a little like music, surely you would think that every song possible has very soon been made???

Meanie
1st June 2008, 09:19
I personaly cant see a problem with reposting, i know ive done it a couple of times accidentaly. Some deserves a second go around. Ive read some threads that ive found bloody intersesting only to find someone cries repost. Big deal i dont have time sifting through the archives of KB looking up all points of interest
I do object however to some reposting when they know the subject has been well discussed and recent

Headbanger
1st June 2008, 09:25
Some people are just petty.....I'll ignore anyone I think is an idiot no matter what their post count or length of service, Either are a pretty poor badge of honour. If peple of any "era" what to discuss a topic of interest to them then they should be able to with out the sheep butting in and crying foul.

To me someone posting "repost" is of less worth then the repost, Unless its done in fun, so who the hell knows?:wari:

AllanB
1st June 2008, 09:35
Some people are just petty.....I'll ignore anyone I think is an idiot no matter what their post count or length of service, Either are a pretty poor badge of honour. If peple of any "era" what to discuss a topic of interest to them then they should be able to with out the sheep butting in and crying foul.

To me someone posting "repost" is of less worth then the repost, Unless its done in fun, so who the hell knows?:wari:

Well said.

Yep if reposted and you know the old one just post a helpful link or PO.

James Deuce
1st June 2008, 09:38
It's fucking annoying is what it is. 90% of what gets posted on KB is now a repost. The search engine is a piece of piss to use and takes no time at all.

You know that annoying relative who keeps telling the same story like you've never heard it before?

That's KB.

McJim summed it up nicely:

"Start a waving thread
Start a what fucken 250 should I buy thread
Start a lane splitting thread
and worst of all:
Start a my GN125 is fucked thread"

McJim
1st June 2008, 09:40
The way I see it there are 2 choices - both of which fall foul of the Netiquette Nazis. You can start a new thread (which is a repost) or you can add a comment to the original thread (called Necro ing). So if you do have a point of view either way on an old subject your only recourse is to start a forum of your own and post it there coz you're damned either way.

Conquiztador
1st June 2008, 09:57
Yes!! It happened. I was sitting here counting the minutes to when this thread was joined with my old one re the subject.

52 minutes!!

And moved to "Site Stuff" too.

You do live a interesting life...

Virago
1st June 2008, 10:32
...You do live a interesting life...

Merging the threads took all of 10 seconds. How long did it take you to type your "repost"? I think that perhaps YOU need to get a life...:bleh:

MIXONE
1st June 2008, 11:34
FFS this sounds like kindy kids who can't get their own way.

Nagash
1st June 2008, 11:48
Well what happened to that Wikipedia-esk idea? Archiving all the useful information on KB into an easy to read, point and click format.

Cause besides the rare snippets of information like current day news, or posting a new ride, pretty much everything else is a repost. Which means that this forum is just a big archive. Instead of pouring through stuff you've already, why not submit it to that wikipedia thing. Atleast that'd be productive..

Conquiztador
1st June 2008, 11:50
Merging the threads took all of 10 seconds. How long did it take you to type your "repost"? I think that perhaps YOU need to get a life...:bleh:

Not long. I just c/p from an old post..

Mikkel
1st June 2008, 14:28
Often I see "repost" mentioned when someone starts a thread or does a posting.

KB has new people joining all the time. Just have a look at the amount of postings the members have who contribute on this side. Sure, there is the ones who have 1000+ postings (and will remember a discussion that was held 2 yars ago) But many are new members and for them any discussion they participate in is something new. Personally I really dislike the "repost" that others attach to a posting/thread that some newer member of this site enthusiastically contibutes. What more does the "repost" signal then that you do not have dementia and you probably should do something better with your time?

How could there ever be a thread/posting that has already been done? It is like saying that just because you have ridden a road once there is no reason to do so again. But we all know that there is so many variables that will change the experience even if the same road is ridden daily: The weather, time of day/night, other travellers, our moode, condition of our bike, tyres, and list goes on. Exactly same thing regarding a thread/posting. New members joining in, perhaps there has been a new development regarding the issue, our situation has changed, we have changed our mind, the replies will be totally different, etc.

I often find it insulting that a "older" member plasters "repost" on to a posting/thread of a new member who after some consideration has decided to join in. This can at times be daunting for someone new, but they have decided to take the plunge, only to be smacked with "repost" because someone who should have moved on years ago has a elephant memory and too much time on their hands.

Instead of focusing on picking others postings to pieces and trawling through the search function to find that, in fact, in November 2004 some obscure member posted a very similar posting, instead of this should you not be out riding?

(I am sure that this has been done before and so I am waiting for the repost label by the most observant here...)

Conquiztador
1st June 2008, 15:04
Often I see "repost" mentioned when someone starts a thread or does a posting.

KB has new people joining all the time. Just have a look at the amount of postings the members have who contribute on this side. Sure, there is the ones who have 1000+ postings (and will remember a discussion that was held 2 yars ago) But many are new members and for them any discussion they participate in is something new. Personally I really dislike the "repost" that others attach to a posting/thread that some newer member of this site enthusiastically contibutes. What more does the "repost" signal then that you do not have dementia and you probably should do something better with your time?

How could there ever be a thread/posting that has already been done? It is like saying that just because you have ridden a road once there is no reason to do so again. But we all know that there is so many variables that will change the experience even if the same road is ridden daily: The weather, time of day/night, other travellers, our moode, condition of our bike, tyres, and list goes on. Exactly same thing regarding a thread/posting. New members joining in, perhaps there has been a new development regarding the issue, our situation has changed, we have changed our mind, the replies will be totally different, etc.

I often find it insulting that a "older" member plasters "repost" on to a posting/thread of a new member who after some consideration has decided to join in. This can at times be daunting for someone new, but they have decided to take the plunge, only to be smacked with "repost" because someone who should have moved on years ago has a elephant memory and too much time on their hands.

Instead of focusing on picking others postings to pieces and trawling through the search function to find that, in fact, in November 2004 some obscure member posted a very similar posting, instead of this should you not be out riding?

(I am sure that this has been done before and so I am waiting for the repost label by the most observant here...)

Bling sent. Could not have said it better my self!!

Kickaha
1st June 2008, 15:04
I often find it insulting that a "older" member plasters "repost" on to a posting/thread of a new member


REPOST FFS!:


Yeah bastard repost police :bleh:

Virago
1st June 2008, 15:35
I often find it insulting that a "older" member plasters "repost" on to a posting/thread of a new member...


REPOST FFS!...


http://www.columbia.edu/~ajc57/stop_repost.jpg

Bwahahahahaha...! :clap:

James Deuce
1st June 2008, 17:51
Often I see "repost" mentioned when someone starts a thread or does a posting.

KB has new people joining all the time. Just have a look at the amount of postings the members have who contribute on this side. Sure, there is the ones who have 1000+ postings (and will remember a discussion that was held 2 yars ago) But many are new members and for them any discussion they participate in is something new. Personally I really dislike the "repost" that others attach to a posting/thread that some newer member of this site enthusiastically contibutes. What more does the "repost" signal then that you do not have dementia and you probably should do something better with your time?

How could there ever be a thread/posting that has already been done? It is like saying that just because you have ridden a road once there is no reason to do so again. But we all know that there is so many variables that will change the experience even if the same road is ridden daily: The weather, time of day/night, other travellers, our moode, condition of our bike, tyres, and list goes on. Exactly same thing regarding a thread/posting. New members joining in, perhaps there has been a new development regarding the issue, our situation has changed, we have changed our mind, the replies will be totally different, etc.

I often find it insulting that a "older" member plasters "repost" on to a posting/thread of a new member who after some consideration has decided to join in. This can at times be daunting for someone new, but they have decided to take the plunge, only to be smacked with "repost" because someone who should have moved on years ago has a elephant memory and too much time on their hands.

Instead of focusing on picking others postings to pieces and trawling through the search function to find that, in fact, in November 2004 some obscure member posted a very similar posting, instead of this should you not be out riding?

(I am sure that this has been done before and so I am waiting for the repost label by the most observant here...)

Repost. I shot my dog.

The ones that are annoying are the ones in my signature.

Open "Search". Type GT250R. Watch what comes back. Type CBR250. Watch what comes back.

Most of all though, very few people on KB are actively helpful. So it falls to a couple of people to type the same shit over and over again.

Then those people get to watch the same crowd of unhelpful bastards type the same shit they always do in response to an RFI on a Hyobag WITHOUT READING THE HELPFUL PERSON'S POST AND THE INFORMATION CONTAINED THEREIN. They're always the same people who've never even ridden one, but their mate's third cousin's Aunt had one catch fire and melt the faces of all her children, so they must be "shit", eh?

So to get right to the point and piss myself and others off right from the word go, I just type "repost", because no one gives a flying fuck, do they?

Swoop
1st June 2008, 22:23
Surely there is some electronic internettingly clever way of setting things up for the noobs?
Whenever they go to post, a "search-the-site box" appears first, perhaps?

Have this for the first 50 posts and get them into a habit.