Are bikes just too dangerous?

[The Pastor]

In light of the killing of that poor 13 year old girl, are motorbikes too dangerous? I think they are. So much so that my bike is now for sale. I urge you to do the same.

Its just not fair on everyone else.

Another reminder that speed kills.

[Ixion]

Yes. Yes they are. Very dangerous. Not many can hack it. You're doing the best thing. It's not for you. Only a few , a select few , can go out every day and look death in the face, and sneer at him (he hates that). Enjoy your cage.

[Kittyhawk]

If you go back to it youll know when you are ready.

Im over road riding for a number of reasons, and one of them is I dont want to put other peoples lives in danger.

So taking it to the track instead.:Punk:

[jtzzr]

Bikes are dangerous if you own 1 Scotty , That was an unfortunate accident , Respect to the girls and families .

[Big Dave]

Someone find the post where he says 'sell this one so i can buy another one' pahleeeese.

[sparky10]

:bash::bash: its not the bikes, its the idiots on them:nono:

[The Pastor]

I think most people cant handle motorbikes, if it cant support itself with out something holding it up, it shouldn't be on the road.

[R6_kid]

Good wind up scott. That accident was the result of a 15yr old kid being a dick head. If he'd been in a car he would have killed her anyway...

[Ixion]

Hey, i used to like motorbikes, very much, but ive come to the light, and I think you should think long and hard about why you endanger others lives every time you go on a ride.

Cos they deserve it. And cos I'm an anti-social bastard.

[Taz]

If you were really serious you'd not be selling your bike you'd be destroying it so it can't kill in anyone else's hands also. Come on dude get serious post pics of you destroying that devil spawned machine!!

[Subike]

how can an inanimate object be dangerous
its only the stupid choices the riders makes that make it so in many of the cases, not all.
More dangeous than a 15 year old learner in a Turbo charged WRX Subaru?

It the rider thats the problem
Not the machine

Ego/ Peer pressure/lack of common sence are the common denominators.

Sadly that child was killed by an IDIOT who had no brains

[The Pastor]

Cos they deserve it. And cos I'm an anti-social bastard.
Ixion, ive met you a few times, and you seemed like a good basterd, but now i know your just a bastard. Or just a tard.

[R6_kid]

Cos they deserve it. And cos I'm an anti-social bastard.

rofl! aint we all, with our loud exhausts and excessive speeding...

[Steam]

Yep, bikes are really dangerous. I have broken two bones on them in seperate accidents. And I'm going to keep on riding.

[The Pastor]

Yep, bikes are really dangerous. I have broken two bones on them in seperate accidents. And I'm going to keep on riding.
irresponsable. why should we have to pay for your fun

[Taz]

So are you gonna burn that bike and post up a vid on you tube or what 'tard?

[jrandom]

:corn:<blahtencharacters>

[jtzzr]

So are you gonna burn that bike a post up a vid on you tube or what 'tard?

He owns a bike?

[Scorpygirl]

Hi all

The 13 year old is my second cousin. She is an awesome child and much loved by her family. She had her whole life ahead of her. RIP Daisy. My heart bleeds.

[Taz]

:corn:<blahtencharacters>

:niceone::first::laugh::corn::rofl:

[Ixion]

irresponsable. why should we have to pay for your fun

Why should not lesser breeds, without the Law, pay for the fun of those inherently superior to them? And what makes you think that bikers should have to be 'responsible' ? The little grey sheeple in their cages can worry about such things. We are above that. The privilege of rank.

[McJim]

Bikes aren't dangerous enough - get a car, fill it with five fuckwits in hoodies - add alcohol and a twisty road with some cliff faces and hey presto - gene-o-kleen (tm) Evolution you can see.

Good on ya RM - why waste one life when you can get a car and wast five or more?

Vehicles don't kill people - fuckwits kill people.

[Headbanger]

Bikes are completely safe, Unless you don't have your bike jacket on.

In which case tax payers money is at risk.

[sparky10]

we hear ya mate

[The Pastor]

Why should not lesser breeds, without the Law, pay for the fun of those inherently superior to them? And what makes you think that bikers should have to be 'responsible' ? The little grey sheeple in their cages can worry about such things. We are above that. The privilege of rank.
im sick of this us and we thing, all men were created equal, and woman 2nd.

[jtzzr]

QUOTE=Anthrax;1363139]So how do you feel about Renegayde using her death to sell his bike??[/QUOTE]

:cold::cold::cold::cold:

[98tls]

Wouldnt it be so much easier to just sell your computer?

[Taz]

That's a good idea.

[The Pastor]

Wouldnt it be so much easier to just sell your computer?
i got my computer for free, its not worth much.

[Paul in NZ]

Hi all

The 13 year old is my second cousin. She is an awesome child and much loved by her family. She had her whole life ahead of her. RIP Daisy. My heart bleeds.

Then please pass my sincere comiserations to the family - this was a shocking event and as a regular beach goer myself I was soooo angry that some stupid kid would be allowed to ride a bike on a public beach in the dark - good on those that tried to stop him.. damn shame....

[Bren]

too bad i cant red rep ya some more renegade....and btw, the idiots are the ones in cages most of the time

[doc]

what ever helps you sleep at night mate.

Your dribble on KB'r would send most to sleep . You must be a friend of Skiddies. Its obviously school holdiays. Get a life and get outside. Most people this time of the year are out riding not adding to PD threads on KB'r. Your getting to the stage that "Sarge" use to advise. Use the ignore button

[Dutchee]

Hi all

The 13 year old is my second cousin. She is an awesome child and much loved by her family. She had her whole life ahead of her. RIP Daisy. My heart bleeds.

Bikes are inanimate objects and it is the riders who give them a bad name.

This post is way toned down from original.

Again Scorpy, condolences and RIP Daisy :(

[Grub]

Ahem .....

Motorbikes don't kill people
People kill people

.... TiC

[The Pastor]

Your dribble on KB'r would send most to sleep . You must be a friend of Skiddies. Its obviously school holdiays. Get a life and get outside. Most people this time of the year are out riding not adding to PD threads on KB'r. Your getting to the stage that "Sarge" use to advise. Use the ignore button
im only skiddies friend when he pays. (and cleans the gimp suit)

[smoky]

Hey, i used to like motorbikes, very much, but ive come to the light, and I think you should think long and hard about why you endanger others lives every time you go on a ride.

16 hours ago - A man was killed when his car crashed into trees on the side of State Highway 12, near Opononi.
22 hours ago - A drunken driver went about four miles down a highway in the wrong direction before his pickup truck slammed into a minivan, killing a woman and four children and injuring three other people

I live 600 meters off state highway three just south of Kihikihi / Te Awamutu, the road was closed for hours yesterday due to a fatal accident involving three cars.
It’s the third fatality on the same stretch of road, due to cars on the wrong side of the road, in the last month – the last month! one was suicide, one was a drunk immigrant.

So you gonna give up driving cars as well.
Make sure you never play outdoor bowls – statistically it’s the most dangerous thing you can do – more people are injured or die playing lawn bowls than any other sport, more deaths and injuries than motor bike riders too.
:Police:

[Ixion]

Ahem .....

Motorbikes don't kill people
People kill people

.... TiC


No. People kill people.

Motorcycles kill motorcyclists.

Most of you will be killed by motorcyclists if you keep riding a few more years. You should do as Mr Renegade suggests and sell your bikes.

[rphenix]

Could have just as easily been a beach buggy, 4x4 or anything! It was the stupid rider not the bike itself that caused this. I would think for the most part motorbikes are actually safer for other road users (not for the rider themselves of course) simply because bikes are lighter and therefore hopefully have less of an impact in a collision.

[The Pastor]

Motorbikes are too dangerous, you can go around a coner, hit some cow shit/ pine needle/ car/ gravel/ livestock/ pedal cyclists etc etc the list goes on. And on.

Motorbikes have had there time and it has well been expired.

[Ixion]

Deleted - some idiot moderator deleted the post to which it referred, which left this one making no sense. It still doesn't make sense, but nor do the moderators,so at least it's on topic

[Ronin]

+1...... 2 and 3

[FJRider]

i got my computer for free, its not worth much.

Its not what you have that gives it value, its how you use it. And your right...its NOT worth much !!!

[Maha]

too bad i cant red rep ya some more renegade....and btw, the idiots are the ones in cages most of the time


Glad you cleared that up.....i own a car as well as a bike and im no idiot (most of the time)...RM gets first prize for 'Wind up of the Year' and its only just begun.

[Coyote]

You say they're dangerous, yet you're willing to sell it off to someone else? You fool! They're dangerous and you shouldn't let someone else needlessly die on it. I agree with Anthrax, destroy it, destroy it now! Fucking shit man!

[FJRider]

[QUOTE=renegade master;

motorbikes are just not cool anymore.[/QUOTE]

I thought this site was for / by motorcycle ENTHUSIASTS.
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Good judgment comes from bad experience
and a lot of that comes from bad judgment

[Bren]

You say they're dangerous, yet you're willing to sell it off to someone else? You fool! They're dangerous and you shouldn't let someone else needlessly die on it. I agree with Anthrax, destroy it, destroy it now! Fucking shit man!
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VFR400NC30 for sale. Will consider crazy high offers or will also consider trashing the shitter if RB trashes his!

Glad yer gettin into the spirit of it Coyote

[Coyote]

Holy pipes batman, your right, and from now on i'll burn every motorbike i see, starting with the ones forsale on kb and trademe, i'll test ride them into a pool of petrol!

Back to reality, are bikes too dangerous? would the road toll be less if there were no bikes on the road?
Holy pipes?

Pretty sure the road toll would remain at the usual amount, but then again I'm not a statistical spin doctor aka researcher

[FJRider]

Motorbikes are too dangerous, you can go around a coner, hit some cow shit/ pine needle/ car/ gravel/ livestock/ pedal cyclists etc etc the list goes on. And on.



AND THIS CAN'T / WON'T HAPPEN (some time ) IN A CAGE ???

[The Pastor]

AND THIS CAN'T / WON'T HAPPEN (some time ) IN A CAGE ???
you have alot higher chance of saving a car on the limits than a bike.

[McJim]

AND THIS CAN'T / WON'T HAPPEN (some time ) IN A CAGE ???

We all know this is the case - difference is that 999 times out of any given 1,000 a motorcyclist comes off worst in any accident. In a car though a lot more innocent bystanders tend to get creamed.

ReneGAYd MASTURBATOR is just stirring shit coz he wants to be a bad arse. He's quite an innefectual fella in real life. Instantly forgettable I think...mind you I can't really remember him.:rofl:

[Coyote]

Oi, you don't go misquoting people. I may have intentions to destroy my VFR, but that's out of pure hatred and disgust towards the thing itself rather than being led on
Glad yer gettin into the spirit of it Coyote

[The Pastor]

We all know this is the case - difference is that 999 times out of any given 1,000 a motorcyclist comes off worst in any accident. In a car though a lot more innocent bystanders tend to get creamed.

ReneGAYd MASTURBATOR is just stirring shit coz he wants to be a bad arse. He's quite an innefectual fella in real life. Instantly forgettable I think...mind you I can't really remember him.:rofl:

No need to get personal mate.

[FJRider]

you have alot higher chance of saving a car on the limits than a bike.

If you're in a cage or on a bike AT THE LIMIT...chances of death are about the same.Nobody ever hear of risk management ???
How many Biker deaths this(last) year...How many CAGE driver/passenger DEATHS.

[FJRider]

ReneGAYd MASTURBATOR is just stirring shit coz he wants to be a bad arse. He's quite an innefectual fella in real life. Instantly forgettable I think...mind you I can't really remember him.:rofl:

WHO ????????????????

[Renegade]

99% of crashes im forced to investigate are cars, id say ive done 4 bike crashes in the last 3 years at most, 2 scooters and 2 250cc, cars crash way more, we should ban them instead.

[gijoe1313]

I think RM should just give the bike to me since I am doing my best by collecting as many of them as possible to take them off the road ... :whistle:

And since its a Honda, it will be another hondaberry plant! :o :whistle:

[Dave-]

I've never seen a gun discharge on its own aimed at someone, just like I've never seen a motorcycle ride itself into someone.

RIP to the poor girl, reminds me of my sister she does....

[The Stranger]

Im over road riding for a number of reasons, and one of them is I dont want to put other peoples lives in danger.

So taking it to the track instead.:Punk:


So it's better to endanger racers?

[The Stranger]

Sadly that child was killed by an IDIOT who had no brains

Exactly. That's why it's a good idea for RM to sell his bike.

[FJRider]

99% of crashes im forced to investigate are cars, id say ive done 4 bike crashes in the last 3 years at most, 2 scooters and 2 250cc, cars crash way more, we should ban them instead.

COMPULSORY helmets worn by cage occupants. Same rules for ALL. HOW MANY LIVES THAT WOULD SAVE (tax / ACC dollars too)

[breakaway]

Are bikes just too dangerous?

Definitely. They are a lot less stable in corners. Nothing scarier than coming out of a corner with your arse sliding around.

But that ain't gonna make me stop riding.

[awayatc]

:bash::bash: its not the bikes, its the idiots on them:nono:

In the dark, full speed on a holiday beach.........AND he had been "asked to slow down before"......

He was an idiot allright....my deepest sympathy goes out to the families involved.( I am a parent myself, and can only begin to try to imagine the hurt)

But the potential damage you can do with a 150-300 kg bike is a lot less then the damage a 1500-2500 kg car can cause. Bike riders come usualy out second best in accidents.....This guy was an idiot ..with or without bike.
And he is not the only one....Not enough discipline anywhere, not even allowed to spank your own kids anymore...

Going on the track as"the stranger" mentions is an excellent idea...you need to get your adrenalin rushes omewhere, but not in public!!

[Kittyhawk]

So it's better to endanger racers?

Lol, nah I'd be a nana at the track and getting lapped. I'll know when Im ready to ride...but for now, I just cant be trusted on a bike.:weep:

[onearmedbandit]

.RM gets first prize for 'Wind up of the Year' and its only just begun.

Nah, it was a pathetic attempt. Doesn't even get 'Wind up of the Day' award.

[Macstar]

Nah, it was a pathetic attempt. Doesn't even get 'Wind up of the Day' award.

Agreed. Is he leaving KB too?

[James Deuce]

I reckon JRandom's effort with the Wheelie and t-Shirt thread at Wanganui tops this sad attempt by a fair margin, especially given teh huge number of outraged serious posts before people started to twig. Even then the jig still wasn't up.

[99TLS]

stop trolling RM and HTFU get out there and enjoy your bike i will be soon

[madandy]

ban roads...then there'd be no where to crash bikes or cars...better ban beaches, forrests and race tracks while we're at it too!

[janno]

Oh for fucks sake - it's not rocket surgery!

Ban People!!

[EJK]

:bash::bash: its not the bikes, its the idiots on them:nono: :niceone:

Bikes* don't kill bikers, accidents kill bikers. Well the accident could be anything between Cars and Idiot Behaviour

*Bike; A machine with two wheels.

[The Pastor]

Oh for fucks sake - it's not rocket surgery!

Ban People!!

rocket surgery? Now that is something i'd pay to see.

[AllanB]

Hmmm somebody trying to get the most reds?


Consider this - you can do a lot of damage with a loaded penis - are you recommending that they all be removed as well?

[EJK]

Bikes are too dangerous? Yes.
IF ITS RIDDIN LIKE THIS!

[Disco Dan]

Go jump off a bridge.. tell me if thats dangerous.

[janno]

rocket surgery? Now that is something i'd pay to see.

tis a corny joke young whipper snapper - rocket surgery, brain science . . .

[rwh]

Bikes are too dangerous? Yes.
IF ITS RIDDIN LIKE THIS!

That just looks ... wrong. You can't divide by zero.

Richard

[vifferman]

Motorbikes are too dangerous, you can go around a coner, hit some cow shit/ pine needle/ car/ gravel/ livestock/ pedal cyclists etc etc the list goes on. And on.
Ah... well there's the problem. :yes:
You don't go around coners - you run the fuckers over. :Pokey:

[SPman]

Nothing scarier than coming out of a corner with your arse sliding around.

But that ain't gonna make me stop riding.

You could try a grippier seat......

[rudolph]

Staying in bed is dangerous

[homer]

I think you all need a few tins of tuffen up

Give up riding
you gonna sell your car and walk

Just all you noobs that will give up a bike cause you think there dangerous

[Swoop]

Good greif. This thread is still going.

[homer]

looks to me like the answer is more simple

less crashes need the auto bahn

now theres the best ban of all
they dont have many crashes

[NighthawkNZ]

My old bike was completely safe in the garage... since then I no longer have a garage...

[FJRider]

Staying in bed is dangerous

Do you know how many people DIE in bed. Why are'nt they banned ???

[98tls]

Do you know how many people DIE in bed. Why are'nt they banned ??? Nope,do tell.

[99TLS]

that despite the accidents bikes like Harleys and Triumphs are selling
in record numbers. I guess the biggest risk is when someone buys a bike
and does not allow themselves sufficiant time to get to know how to handle it.

my neighbous just bought a 2008 harley( 1530cc ?) on hi learners, rides around like a fuckwit, no helmet, no gloves, singlet, gumboots, theres atleast 4 new harleys near me , must be the new toy for farmers and there extra payout

[wingnutt]

gidday,

It's the rider of the bike that is dangerous, not the bike itself, its the decisions a rider makes, that makes the bike behave the way it does. it is on very rare occasions that machinery is at fault, and even then its ususally caused, by maintainance issues.

I feel terribly sorry for the family and the lassie that was killed, but it was a dickhead decision that caused the accident, the bike didn't go roaring through the beach on its own.

selling a bike, because it suddenly seems dangerous, wont make dickhead decisions stop, maturity, and responsibility, learning to ride properly will.

Motorcycles are fun, and give a wonderful sense of freedom, but the rider of one has to realise, that that freedom can come with a ton of hurt very quickly indeed, if a wrong decision is made.

cheers,

wingnutt

[Ducman]

After reading through this crap, you people, myself included.. need to get out more!

[delusionz]

Did I miss something? I don't understand the point of a thread convincing bikers to give up their bikes because they endanger 13 year olds? Last time I checked we were not the biggest threat to anyone but ourselves.

Hmm... I'm pretty sure I missed something here. :scratch:

[WelshWizard]

In light of the killing of that poor 13 year old girl, are motorbikes too dangerous? I think they are. So much so that my bike is now for sale. I urge you to do the same.

Its just not fair on everyone else.

Another reminder that speed kills.

What a load of Cow Crap, no matter how you ride or drive sh!t happens, if you can't live with dig a hole , get in it cover yourself up. from the time you are born you start to die, some people live for cars some for pushbikes and some for motorcycles, all are dangerous if you don't know what your doing, or you meet some one who is driving or riding who does not know what there doing,

If you lost your nerve then walk away, as yes you will end up splattered.

True accident can happen to anyone, stupidity can be avoided unless you are a retard and there fore should not be on a bike in the first place.

this mamby pamby attitude of I don't want to do it any more so I will make every one else not do it, is just another step to toward a boring state controlled life, your statement makes me think you work for the police as this is the drivel I would expect from them,

You aren't one of them that likes doing U turn in front of others without signals are you?

[Toaster]

I think a few of you need to grow a sense of humour and realise RM was actually being sarcastic.

Very witty Scott. Yep bikes are dangerous.... a mate admitted to me a while ago that he was out polishing his bike in the driveway one day when it all of a sudden it viciously attacked him by falling off its stand and squishing him WWF style.

[Grahameeboy]

:bash::bash: its not the bikes, its the idiots on them:nono:

Too right............speed kills is a silly comment. 2kph is speed and could potentially kill a pedestrian but speed may not be the predominant factor.

The sad thing about this tragedy is that those who had words with the guy should have had the conviction and removed him from the bike and called the cops.......actions not words............instead they allowed him to carry on being an idiot, knowing that what he was doing was dangerous (which is why they spoke to him) when they could have saved a life.

That's the sad thing too......

[Grahameeboy]

What a load of Cow Crap, no matter how you ride or drive sh!t happens, if you can't live with dig a hole , get in it cover yourself up. from the time you are born you start to die, some people live for cars some for pushbikes and some for motorcycles, all are dangerous if you don't know what your doing, or you meet some one who is driving or riding who does not know what there doing,

If you lost your nerve then walk away, as yes you will end up splattered.

True accident can happen to anyone, stupidity can be avoided unless you are a retard and there fore should not be on a bike in the first place.

this mamby pamby attitude of I don't want to do it any more so I will make every one else not do it, is just another step to toward a boring state controlled life, your statement makes me think you work for the police as this is the drivel I would expect from them,

You aren't one of them that likes doing U turn in front of others without signals are you?

croeso i New Zealand:yes:

[gunnyrob]

Guns don't kill people.......

















Bullets do.

[Grahameeboy]

Guns don't kill people.......

Bullets do.

No silly it's the person firing the gun.

[The Pastor]

guns dont kill people








i do.

[jazbug5]

No... rappers (http://www.lyrics007.com/Goldie%20Lookin'%20Chain%20Lyrics/Guns%20Don't%20Kill%20People,%20Rappers%20Do%20Lyr ics.html) do.

[Grahameeboy]

guns dont kill people

i do.

You mean from falling over with laughter...;)

[The Pastor]

You mean from falling over with laughter...;)
Nah I joined the police.

[Grahameeboy]

Nah I joined the police.

Yep The Police need a new drummer.............

[The Pastor]

sorry, i cant reply, im too busy practicing my u turns

[Grahameeboy]

sorry, i cant reply, im too busy practicing my u turns

Not in the car by the sounds of it then...

[puddy]

In light of the killing of that poor 13 year old girl, are motorbikes too dangerous? I think they are. So much so that my bike is now for sale. I urge you to do the same.

Its just not fair on everyone else.

Another reminder that speed kills.
And it will be dangerous for somebody else. Burn it. It's the only way! Or for all the huggers out there............ cut up into small pieces and RECYCLE!

[WelshWizard]

I think a few of you need to grow a sense of humour and realise RM was actually being sarcastic.

Very witty Scott. Yep bikes are dangerous.... a mate admitted to me a while ago that he was out polishing his bike in the driveway one day when it all of a sudden it viciously attacked him by falling off its stand and squishing him WWF style.

It may be a send up, but it also the crap some dam polo will use ti try and get them banned, you never heard of selective quotes.

[Jorja]

Bikes are dangerous? 5 kids riding as fast as they could for 4 days solid.
Damage to themselves? A couple of scratches from tree branches.
One evening one kid smacks a skylite resulting in a rush trip to doctor.
LIFE is dangerous. Enjoy it whilst you can.

[Maffoo]

if he had been in a car, they both would have died

[MSTRS]

8 pages and Katman hasn't appeared. Just what is KB coming to? (sorry, Hitcher)
And as far as RM being controversial and a bad-ass....HA! There was a hole in the crowd at The Stranger's new years do that was shaped suspiciously like RM, and an odd silence that sounded like him when the OP's chatter went quiet....

[WelshWizard]

example of selective quote

Transit Northern operations manager Joseph Flanagan said

Mr Flanagan said it was "not practical" to fence every motorway and highway


"The network is such a big network - what do you fence and what don't you fence? We are saying we are committed to making the motorway and state highway as safe as possible for all people, so we would take what we believe is the most appropriate measure."

even though he strongly supports the use of WRB and is one of the main opponents of there upgrading or removal.

maybe we should put this in the Cheese cutter section as it uses Flanagan words but one word is missed out the quote.
Just the way the Polos would use a quote