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Hitcher
3rd January 2008, 17:41
It had to happen sometime. Today was the day. I rode a British motorcycle – a Triumph Speed Triple 1050 to be precise. To be even more exact it had a couple of aftermarket enhancements in the form of an Ohlins rearset and Micron mufflers to go with 10,000km added by its initial owner. The test bike was a “minter” and well run in.

Speed Triples are amongst the more “individual” motorcycles on the road. The bug-eyed chrome twin headlight cluster, the double radiators at the front of the engine for oil and water cooling and the bike’s minimalist styling take the term “naked bike” almost too seriously.

The test bike was black. In fact it was so black, even its white bits were black (almost but not quite).

The first thing I liked about the Speed Triple was that everything “fitted”. At 183cm in height, I don’t think that I am an overly tall person, until I try to ride many of the bikes on offer that are clearly built for riders much shorter than I am. But I struggle to rationalise this against the high seat heights many bikes also have, because I have yet to see 170cm-tall riders with legs longer than mine. I suspect bikes are a bit like kitchens, in that the people who design them are fashion victims who clearly don’t use them.

As a comparison, my last test ride was a Suzuki B-King. This is a big looking bike but one that I found too small for me to fit comfortably. The Speed Triple fitted almost perfectly. The seat was fractionally on the tall side, but a bit of fannying around with Mr Ohlins most excellent rear suspension should soon remedy that.

The first thing I didn’t like about the Speed Triple were its mirrors. Mirrors are sometimes called “rear-view mirrors”, an assumption implicit from that name being an ability to see astern whilst riding. The Triumph’s mirrors provided an excellent and razor-sharp-at-all-speeds view of my elbows. Rear vision was afforded by sliding one’s arse from side to side, as a MotoGP rider would.

The reason for the word “triple” in the Speed Triple’s moniker, I shrewdly deduced, is because its 1050cc mill has three cylinders. Odd indeed, compared with the symmetry most manufacturers of multi-cylinder engines appear to aspire towards. I was expecting some sort of vibey thrum as a consequence, and was pleasantly surprised at the engine’s smoothness, and also its throttle response and willingness to both lug and rev. Combined with the Micron cans, the noise that emitted rearwards was “arousing” to say the least. Somebody who knew what a motorcycle engine should do clearly had a hand in the manufacture of this triple. The torque response is near faultless right across a 2,000rpm to 8,000rpm range.

Which leads me to the transmission. A six-speed box is coupled to the rear wheel by chain. The whole ensemble is held in position by a single-sided swing arm. I don’t get the point of these, but they sure do look nice!

Another thing about a lot of bikes that I struggle to “get” is the six-speed transmission. On 250s and some mid-size bikes one is constantly changing gears, largely because the one that one happens to be in at any point in time is never quite right, and one can never seem to remember what gear one is in anyway, unless one scrupulously counts. Some manufacturers now add nifty LCD numbers in the instrument cluster to do the counting for one. Thank you! On larger bikes with reasonably torquey donks, I find that five gears is generally quite sufficient, with a sixth gear generally a bit of flim-flammery, or an overdrive for motorway cruising. More ornament that use.

But today I now “got” a six-speed transmission for the first time. Mr Triumph has selected the ratios with great care and precision to match the engine’s most excellent ergonomics, which seem to be best at around the 6,000rpm point, plus or minus. I liked this hugely.

The test bike was fitted with almost new Michelin Pilot Road 2s – not a tyre I expected to see on a bike of this type. I would have expected to see an Avon Viper, or similar, fitted. And with no basis for comparison, I have no idea how this tyre choice affects the Triumph’s handling. I was expecting the Speed Triple to be flickable and nimble, after all it looks like it should be. But it wasn’t. Pushed quite hard around Grays Road, I encountered understeer by the boat-load. Not quite a whaleboat, but almost. This wasn’t dangerous – applying more countersteer did the business. But the front lacked the sort of bite that I am used to and expect. My FJR is a sharper handler than the tested Speed Triple, and the B-King I rode a couple of weeks beforehand was significantly nimbler. I was working hard carving cats-eyes at 70kmh on the Triumph.

The instrument panel on the Triumph is well positioned and is a mix of analogue tach and digital everything else. I liked the design and readability, although the odometer display was a bit on the small side. Closer analysis revealed a trip computer, offering a range of functions and data about fuel consumption, rolling average time, highest speed travelled, high tide at Southampton and the phase of the moon. Most of this was sort of intuitive, but resetting the trip meters (something the previous owner had never done) required two buttons to be pressed for several seconds. Not the sort of thing one could or should attempt to do at other than a complete stop. Scrolling through the various displays indicated that this bike was capable of being ridden at speeds in excess of 220kmh (rated) and that it consumed motor spirits prodigiously!

So, it’s time for the Big Two questions:

Did I like the Speed Triple? No. I loved it. Loved it hugely. This is an awesome motorcycle. Not perfect though.

Would I buy a Speed Triple? Yes, but it wouldn’t be my only bike, as it doesn’t do everything I need a motorcycle to do, such as carry touring luggage and a pillion in some comfort when necessary.

Many thanks to Pete at Wellington Motorcycles for providing the opportunity to ride the Triumph Speed Triple 1050.

sAsLEX
3rd January 2008, 17:54
Ohlins rear shock maybe? rather than footpegs?

edit:
And now I have finished readin the whole post a nice review!

riffer
3rd January 2008, 17:56
Sounds like tyres Brett.

The Speed Triple I rode last was eminently flickable.

Mom
3rd January 2008, 17:58
It had to happen sometime.
Would I buy a Speed Triple? Yes......(apologies for the exta dots :love:) Many thanks to Pete at Wellington Motorcycles for providing the opportunity to ride the Triumph Speed Triple 1050.


Welcome to the dark side mate! All over for you now :bleh:

Happy New Year! and what a great write up to boot!

sinned
3rd January 2008, 17:59
I love riding mine and agree a second bike for touring is a desirable accessory.

My only real comparison on cornering has been the SV1000s with the S3 more responsive. I thought it was pretty good - and has original components.

I need to ride a B-king.

merv
3rd January 2008, 18:04
Sounds like tyres Brett.

The Speed Triple I rode last was eminently flickable.

Even more to the point probably didn't have enough pressure in the front tyre. This sounds like what happened when RantyDave started with his Triumph.

Hitcher
3rd January 2008, 18:20
My only real comparison on cornering has been the SV1000s with the S3 more responsive. I thought it was pretty good - and has original components.

What tyres are you running on yours, Dennis?

RantyDave
3rd January 2008, 18:40
Even more to the point probably didn't have enough pressure in the front tyre. This sounds like what happened when RantyDave started with his Triumph.
Exactly that. Low tyre pressure (really low) made the steering heavy. But it was also that the suspension numbers 'by the book' had way too much preload. Take a fair chunk of that off and I bet it'd start to flick nicely. Mine also lets me know, quite clearly, when the tyres are knackered. Hmmm.

Dave

sinned
3rd January 2008, 19:15
What tyres are you running on yours, Dennis?

michelin pilot power at 36 and 42 psi

Hitcher
3rd January 2008, 19:17
michelin pilot power at 36 and 42 psi

I suspect a better choice for the Speed Triple than PR2s.

Owl
3rd January 2008, 21:50
I suspect a better choice for the Speed Triple than PR2s.

Very nice review Hitcher! I certainly have no problems with understeer on mine. The PR2 on the front wouldn’t be on my list but I’d be quite happy to have one on the rear. I’m currently running a Pilot Power 2CT front (34psi) and an Avon Storm rear (38psi).

MD
3rd January 2008, 22:08
You Guys who actually check your tyre pressures and even know what it should be crack me up.
I'm sure they put air in the tyres when they leave the tyre factory. How else do they justify the inflated cost. That's close enough for me.
Putting air in tyres is another myth, like the one that you can buy a "continuation" of a new bike's registration when it's 12 months old.

merv
3rd January 2008, 22:23
You Guys who actually check your tyre pressures and even know what it should be crack me up.
I'm sure they put air in the tyres when they leave the tyre factory. How else do they justify the inflated cost. That's close enough for me.
Putting air in tyres is another myth, like the one that you can buy a "continuation" of a new bike's registration when it's 12 months old.

Mate talk about a wind up, and taking it from the kind of speeds I am sure you have experienced in your years riding from some of the posts you have written to have us believing you never ever put air in your tyres you must be some magic fairy (no offence to BusaJim's magicfairy intended here) that has this looked after by his own magic elves - I never knew they hung out in Tawa. :crazy:

sAsLEX
3rd January 2008, 22:25
Mate talk about a wind up, and taking it from the kind of speeds I am sure you have experienced in your years riding from some of the posts you have written to have us believing you never ever put air in your tyres you must be some magic fairy that has this looked after by his own magic elves - I never knew they hung out in Tawa. :crazy:

Maybe he uses Nitrogen not air? I have heard this is much better!

Dooly
4th January 2008, 08:24
Love the 3 cyl Triumph engine.
They really howl with an after market can on.
Had a 1050, and it was all Hitcher said.
I found on both the bikes that the gearbox was very notchy and could sometimes miss shifts in the top two gears, but now I usually dont use the clutch for 5th & 6th gears and its fine.
Sold it, have brought the last of the 955 triple Speed Triple, 04, like the look of that better.
I can notice the difference between tyres. My new 1050 had Michelins on and was awesome.
This one now has Pirelli Diablos and fells loose and does'nt give as much confidence as the Michelins on the other bike.
I will change to Michelin 2CVTs soon.

vifferman
4th January 2008, 08:41
What a wonderful story, Mr Hitcher. I immensely enjoyed reading it, and also enjoyed reading it immensely (I tried it both ways).

beyond
4th January 2008, 08:49
I would say your tyre pressures weren't right.
I run the Pilot Road 2's on my bike and out of many types and brands "tested" over the years are finding them the best for grip wet and dry and flickability and also wear which is always a consideration on a machine producing lots of low end torque which eats tyres.

Nice write up mate :)

vifferman
4th January 2008, 08:56
I would say your tyre pressures weren't right.
Yeah, that was my initial thought too, but I presumed the shop would've checked those first.

Scouse
4th January 2008, 09:00
Your too late Hitcher I've been telling any one that will listen about Speed Triples for a couple of years now. But good write up never the less.

merv
4th January 2008, 09:04
Yeah, that was my initial thought too, but I presumed the shop would've checked those first.

Yep we're all saying the same thing so CFWB should've made sure it was right to give the best impression of the bike.

Unlike MD because I ride my bikes occasionally I go down to the local gas station and blow my tyres up before very ride.

Big Dave
4th January 2008, 09:16
Not flickable?????


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vifferman
4th January 2008, 09:32
Not flickable?????

That's wheelieing, not flicking.

Owl
4th January 2008, 10:58
That's wheelieing, not flicking.

Run the video to the end and you'll get options to view more videos! I like the Kevin Carmichael video!:woohoo:

Scouse
4th January 2008, 12:05
Also to address your comments about the mirrors and fuel consumption, I had previously owned a 2006 Speed Triple and the mirrors and fuel consumption were shit, however I traded the 06 in for a 07 model. Triumph for the 07 model changed the mirrors, so that the mirror element was more oval shaped and the stems were positioned lower and stuck out further than the previous model, also 07 saw Triumph change from Sagem ECU and fuel injection to Keihin, this has substantially changed the bikes fuel thirstiness from memory I used to average 6.8ltr/100Km on the 07 model it is down to 5.2ltr/100Km.

Owl
4th January 2008, 12:21
Also to address your comments about the mirrors and fuel consumption, I had previously owned a 2006 Speed Triple and the mirrors and fuel consumption were shit, however I traded the 06 in for a 07 model. Triumph for the 07 model changed the mirrors, so that the mirror element was more oval shaped and the stems were positioned lower and stuck out further than the previous model, also 07 saw Triumph change from Sagem ECU and fuel injection to Keihin, this has substantially changed the bikes fuel thirstiness from memory I used to average 6.8ltr/100Km on the 07 model it is down to 5.2ltr/100Km.

I think you'll find all 1050's use Keihin ECU's. The later one apparently has an increase in memory.

sinned
4th January 2008, 14:58
Which model is it - or how is the year defined?

The Speed Triple came out in 2007 with plastic and metal tanks and Al and SS muffler covers. The shop had on display last month a new white bike listed as a 2008 model - it looks the same as a 2007. Triumph has released a new model for 2008 which is a lot different so how can a bike in 2007 be listed as a 2008 model when it is the 2007 design?

So what are the key differences between 2006 and 2007?

YellowDog
4th January 2008, 15:16
Nice one Hitcher.

I am buying a 2008 Tiger for the high ride and the 1050 Triple. Smooth as Velvet.

I am 187 tall and I tend to cramp up on small bikes.

Owl
4th January 2008, 15:19
Which model is it - or how is the year defined?

The Speed Triple came out in 2007 with plastic and metal tanks and Al and SS muffler covers. The shop had on display last month a new white bike listed as a 2008 model - it looks the same as a 2007. Triumph has released a new model for 2008 which is a lot different so how can a bike in 2007 be listed as a 2008 model when it is the 2007 design?

So what are the key differences between 2006 and 2007?

Upgraded ECU and exhaust I think. Everything else has been a rolling change.

Scouse
4th January 2008, 16:06
Upgraded ECU and exhaust I think. Everything else has been a rolling change.No upgraded exhausts. Just upgraded ECU, Fuel injection, Mirrors, Smaller higher located oil cooler and steel fuel tank. Mine has an upgraded exhaust but it was an extra. The 2008 is definitely different it has different side panels and rear end the front forks have changed to black instead of gold anodised and is fitted with brembo radial front calipers so the shops that are advertising their run out stock as 2008 models are being a bit naughty
<a href="http://s218.photobucket.com/albums/cc118/frotle_2007/?action=view&current=CopyofIMG_0295-1.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc118/frotle_2007/CopyofIMG_0295-1.jpg" border="0" alt="My current Triple"></a>

Owl
4th January 2008, 16:51
No upgraded exhausts. Just upgraded ECU, Fuel injection, Mirrors, Smaller higher located oil cooler and steel fuel tank. Mine has an upgraded exhaust but it was an extra. The 2008 is definitely different it has different side panels and rear end the front forks have changed to black instead of gold anodised and is fitted with brembo radial front calipers so the shops that are advertising their run out stock as 2008 models are being a bit naughty


I meant changed exhaust, but you're right! It seems NZ and Aus kept the old one and the change was for the rest of the world.

Oh, very nice kit you have there zrxer!!!

MD
5th January 2008, 16:38
Maybe he uses Nitrogen not air? I have heard this is much better!

Don't Pirellis leave the factory with imported Swiss mountain air? That's why I don't check my tires an put yucky NZ air inside them.

sporty03
25th February 2008, 14:04
A tad late to the discussion, but has anyone tried the 08 'street triple'. 675machine. May not be quite as quick as the 1050 but if you want something 'flickable' try one of those. Has to be, cause it feels so damned good at significantly more than the law would allow,:innocent: one sought of forgets about the bendy bits in the road till it's almost too late.:Oops: Just lean it some more and it wil see you right. Bloody marvelous.
From what I've read, Triumph upped the stopping power of the 1050's for 2008 so you can try out all that torque with more confidence.
Cop-ya

marioc
25th February 2008, 14:19
bloody brilliant now how about a write up on the street triple for those of us with some budget and balls limitations!

warewolf
25th February 2008, 15:10
Triumph model years start 1st July, in line with the pommie registration system I thought. So an '08 model is released 1st July 2007.

El Dopa
25th February 2008, 18:51
A tad late to the discussion, but has anyone tried the 08 'street triple'.


bloody brilliant now how about a write up on the street triple for those of us with some budget and balls limitations!

There's an entire multi-page thread devoted to it already. Seek (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/search.php) and ye shall find.

On another note: any speed triple owners on here been on the track with it? How does it rate as a track toy?