New Drowning Pool album out soon

[Waylander]

Got into this band pretty quick way back before their first album was released. Saw them at a Dallas metal club called Trees (Damn I miss that place) when they were just a local band. Fucking awesome show with stage divers and all sorts.

Sucked when Dave Williams died, I went to his funeral in Plano and saw heaps of big bands (Pantera, Union Underground...) there all paying there respects to a great singer.

When they replaced him with Jason Jones I didn't like them as much, his voice didn't really seem to fit the music too well other than the song Step up.

Lost track of them after that till just recently I found a random vid on youtube with them and their new singer Ryan McCombs.
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Now that is more like it!! Still doesn't replace Williams, Tear Away is still their best song in my opinion, but damn it's bloody close!

their website as a few more songs from the album on it.
http://www.drowningpool.com/

[98tls]

Tried both links but just doesnt do it for us anyway,sitting around with a few guys after a ride havin a few,all of us are into music with some edge but although well played the lyrics we thought are shite,:shutup:just being honest.Maybe it was all in the name of morale.

[jimbo600]

Fuck yeah thats the shizzle alright. Good to see'em supporting the military too as opposed to all the other lefty up the ass bands.

[Gubb]

To me Drowning Pool should have stopped when Dave died. They never had a chance of bettering 'Sinner'.

That and nu-metal is dead and buried now.

[WarlockNZ]

I love Drowning Pool, but I'm sorry ... that track is just crap.

[The Lone Rider]

Cool.

I'm also waiting for the new papa roach album to come out.

And mudvayne

[The Pastor]

To me Drowning Pool should have stopped when Dave died. They never had a chance of bettering 'Sinner'.

That and nu-metal is dead and buried now.
that isnt nu metal.

[Gubb]

I'm also waiting for the new papa roach album to come out.

And mudvayne

Mudvayne's latest album was pretty rubbish, all B-sides, in saying that, they lost a lot of the x factor that made them original by the time 'Lost and Found' rolled around. LD50 and TEOATTC were far superior albums. Hopefully they bounce back and bring back some of the insane timing that made them so good to start with. The 'Hellyeah' side project that Chad and Greg launched was abysmal too.


that isnt nu metal.

I beg to differ.

[The Lone Rider]

Mudvayne's latest album was pretty rubbish, all B-sides, in saying that, they lost a lot of the x factor that made them original by the time 'Lost and Found' rolled around. LD50 and TEOATTC were far superior albums. Hopefully they bounce back and bring back some of the insane timing that made them so good to start with. The 'Hellyeah' side project that Chad and Greg launched was abysmal too.



I beg to differ.
What are you talking about? Lost and Found is their latest album.

They made a demo album
then LD50
then re-released the demo album as Beginning Of All Things To End
then had End Of All Things To Come
then Lost and Found

All albums are of the same song quality, the only differences between the albums is the production team. Watch them perform stuff from LD50 and all the other albums and there is nothing lacking. The intricacies are all there for all to see, its just the different approaches to the albums that make them sound so different.

Other then that the only change is that they stopped doing the sensationalism with dressing up and make up and have focused more on the music and performance.

And lastly, I for one appreciate a band that evolves. I am rather sick of bands that sound the same in every album (*cough* Hatebreed *cough*). Metallica's St. Anger was refreshing as it was different. IF you want to hear songs from a band that all sound the same, hit the disk repeat button on your player and listen to the same CD over and over. :shutup:

[Gubb]

The latest album released November 27:
http://mudvayne.com/images/MV_btpftp.jpg

All albums are of the same song quality, the only differences between the albums is the production team. Watch them perform stuff from LD50 and all the other albums and there is nothing lacking. The intricacies are all there for all to see, its just the different approaches to the albums that make them sound so different.

Where have the bizarre time signatures gone? Compared to LD50, Lost and Found is inherently commercial. Not saying they sold out, but 'Happy?' isn't far from it. I found the majority of songs on Lost and Found to be boring, with the exception of 'Imn'. I think that having one of the greatest bass players on the planet, and not utilising his potential is almost criminal.

That said, everyone has an opinion, and i'm certainly not trying to insult yours. Just found that Lost and Found was a bomb for me, in the same way that Saint Anger was.

I don't want the same album over and over again, but I want to feel that it's in at least the same ballpark.

[0arbreaka]

Not the same, and never will be.
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[The Lone Rider]

The latest album released November 27:
http://mudvayne.com/images/MV_btpftp.jpg


Is that a live album? Fuck, I havent heard of that one yet. Time to go to the store.

LD50 has no bizarre time signatures. A few bits where they change time signature and bpm but thats it. Watch them live, it's an eye opener.

[Gubb]

Is that a live album? Fuck, I havent heard of that one yet. Time to go to the store.

LD50 has no bizarre time signatures. A few bits where they change time signature and bpm but thats it. Watch them live, it's an eye opener.

It's mostly a B-Sides album, a lot of the live tracks on there were already released on their 'Official Live bootleg'. Couple of average new tracks.

Seen 'em 4 times now, so cheers. 3 times here, and once in San Fran. And your right, it was TEOATTC I was thinking about with the time signatures, particularly 'Trapped In The Wake of A Dream'.

If your into your 'Vayne, have to tried 'American Head Charge'? 'The War Of Art' is an amazing album.

[The Lone Rider]

If your into your 'Vayne, have to tried 'American Head Charge'? 'The War Of Art' is an amazing album.
Yeap, have their first album

Dont think they sound anything like mudvayne :P

[Gubb]

It's their second album. But thats kinda the point, particularly after your comment:

IF you want to hear songs from a band that all sound the same, hit the disk repeat button on your player and listen to the same CD over and over.
Thought you might like something in the same (no pun intended) vein.

I'm always open to new bands, but the list of people that can find beauty in Napalm Death and Dillinger Escape Plan are fairly limited.

[homer]

whats the name of the new album

?
Is it called "full circle"
or is there a new one after that

If its full circle it was released on the 7 th month 2007
and its just downloading now

[Waylander]

Is this what happens when I let a thread run for a while?



whats the name of the new album

?
Is it called "full circle"
or is there a new one after that

If its full circle it was released on the 7 th month 2007
and its just downloading now
Hard to keep up with the good music when little of it ever makes it down here and is never played on the radio.
Where are you getting it from cause I can't find it anywhere.

[homer]

Oh a little program called dc++ or its also called revconnect
Just search for revconnect

everything is on rev connect

Its a bit complicated to work but when you know how its just search and download

Ill try to give you pointers when you have downloaded it
You need broardband .....
And theres simple initial set up
just read the screen and use the settings at the top


I dint get the whole album yesterday but ill have it all in 10 mins

[Waylander]

Oh a little program called dc++ or its also called revconnect
Just search for revconnect

everything is on rev connect

Its a bit complicated to work but when you know how its just search and download

Ill try to give you pointers when you have downloaded it
You need broardband .....
And theres simple initial set up
just read the screen and use the settings at the top


I dint get the whole album yesterday but ill have it all in 10 mins
Um.. do I have to have a degree in computer science to know how to use it?

[Gubb]

Do a Google search for a torrent. Guaranteed there's plenty out there.

[homer]

Um.. do I have to have a degree in computer science to know how to use it?

umm no ,no degree needed

but its just complicated
you down load it and ill give you the rest of the how it works
ill even ring you to explain it

you wont find everything you want , but you will eventually
hey im not paying $30 for a cd

[Gubb]

hey im not paying $30 for a cd
How can you expect a band that you like to survive if you don't support them?

If you like the album, BUY IT, if not, DELETE IT.

[homer]

How can you expect a band that you like to survive if you don't support them?

If you like the album, BUY IT, if not, DELETE IT.

Did you see on tv3 one night a while back ,there was a band playing here and when they found out how much we pay for there music down here .....at the end of the show he told everyone if they like there music to download it
.All cause our prices are to dear.

makes perfect sence to me ,after all ,shouldnt bands today be trying to make more money in other ways with music .
Ive seen some really good ideas ,but not all bands are doing it

Did you also know that in the states a band get aprox $1 off each cd sold the rest goes to the promotions team (warner) just as an example

When a band releases on there own back and creates a agent of there own they get aprox $6 per cd

so who are we ripping off ,the band we love

NOT :done:

[Gubb]

Did you see on tv3 one night a while back ,there was a band playing here and when they found out how much we pay for there music down here .....at the end of the show he told everyone if they like there music to download it
.All cause our prices are to dear.

No, I didn't. Who was the band?


makes perfect sence to me ,after all ,shouldnt bands today be trying to make more money in other ways with music .
Ive seen some really good ideas ,but not all bands are doing it

You mean like selling out? There's a difference between earning just enough to live off so that you can continue to create your art, and improve the lives of those that appreciate it, against multi-million dollar product endorsements. Rage Against the Machine being sponsored by Coca-Cola? Yeah. Right.

Why should a band be forced into alternate revenue streams because you are too cheap to buy their album? Tours and Merchandising have always been big money-makers, but why would you dissolve a revenue stream for someone who's art that you appreciate?


Did you also know that in the states a band get aprox $1 off each cd sold the rest goes to the promotions team (warner) just as an example

Bullshit. Manufacturing costs, retailer mark-ups, shipping costs, production overheads, tax, licensing fees, etc etc etc.


so who are we ripping off ,the band we love

NOT

Yes, you are. What's wrong with buying the album if you like it? If you don't like it, your not gonna listen to it, just delete it.

:rockon:

[homer]

if im wrong im wrong

but from what i have been told ,by someone in a shop selling music ,so they obviously can import it as well
A cd to buy here no mark up on our end is $14

now that was a time ago

so that 14 $ takes in to consideration all the above costs you said
and then the mark up on top for the price we pay
Ive seen it on tv and the amount the record lables take is massive
the lables are the ones wanting to stop pirate copying .its never the bands saying dont copy the music

[Waylander]

Take your shit to another thread HG.

[Gubb]

Who made you the thought Police?

Was merely having an open-ended discussion. If you don't like where a thread progresses towards, don't read it.

[Waylander]

Who made you the thought Police?

Was merely having an open-ended discussion. If you don't like where a thread progresses towards, don't read it.
I started this thread.
I do think that give me a bit of say in what direction it takes.

You want to bitch about people downloading music, start your own thread.

[Waylander]

The remake of Rebel Yell sounds cool.
d47hItC9nJs

[spookytooth]

I didn't see the thing on tv3 when a band said to d/l because of of cd costs ,but i know NIN said when they were in aus to go steal there lastest albin as it was just a bloody rip off .Then Travis {think thats the singers name}put all there old vids on the net when he found out they were planing on making a dvd with them and how much they planed to charge for it

[homer]

I didn't see the thing on tv3 when a band said to d/l because of of cd costs ,but i know NIN said when they were in aus to go steal there lastest albin as it was just a bloody rip off .Then Travis {think thats the singers name}put all there old vids on the net when he found out they were planing on making a dvd with them and how much they planed to charge for it

think it was something different to that ....but it could have ben that i saw

[homer]

The remake of Rebel Yell sounds cool.
d47hItC9nJs

Oh yeah thats a wicked sound
like it lots
What album is that on or is it a single

[Waylander]

Oh yeah thats a wicked sound
like it lots
What album is that on or is it a single
Last track on the Album I've been talking about since the begining of the thread lol.

[Badger8]

i dunno, to me DP will never be the same with the untimely departure of dave.

Whilst i like the new sound, it's missing something i cant quite put my finger on.
(Though i must admit, i do like the rebel yell cover :yes:)

They were in the same vein as Disturbed in my head (back when Dave was still vocalising), a vocalist who gave what was already a good sounding band a real kick that rounded it off in an awesome package.

[homer]

oh yeah i see its on the "full circle "album

its track number 13

sorry i had listened to it once and it wasin the car so obviously didnt actually hear it all properly

[homer]

i dunno, to me DP will never be the same with the untimely departure of dave.

Whilst i like the new sound, it's missing something i cant quite put my finger on.
(Though i must admit, i do like the rebel yell cover :yes:)

They were in the same vein as Disturbed in my head (back when Dave was still vocalising), a vocalist who gave what was already a good sounding band a real kick that rounded it off in an awesome package.

well the actuall music is the same so i dont know what your worried about
what pisses me off is say.....
a band like the off spring ,the early music was cool ,now the later stuff is just shit

[Badger8]

well the actuall music is the same so i dont know what your worried about
what pisses me off is say.....
a band like the off spring ,the early music was cool ,now the later stuff is just shit

Indeed the music is still good, but i loved what dave's voice bought to into the mix. Tis' good, just not what it used to be.
meh, who knows, maybe i'm just a fussy fukr :Punk:

[homer]

Indeed the music is still good, but i loved what dave's voice bought to into the mix. Tis' good, just not what it used to be.
meh, who knows, maybe i'm just a fussy fukr :Punk:

no in some ways you are correct yes it may be different
but i listen to the music more than the vocals
just me

[Badger8]

no in some ways you are correct yes it may be different
but i listen to the music more than the vocals
just me

well there we go, i'm prettymuch the opposite, heheh.
Good music is somewhat common, but i like a 'different' (for lack of a better term) voice to top it off. Good music is still a requirement tho :yes:
Probably the reason i like disturbed so much. Damn good grunty noise, with a carnal, animalistic, yet clear and controlled voice :Punk:

[homer]

well there we go, i'm prettymuch the opposite, heheh.
Good music is somewhat common, but i like a 'different' (for lack of a better term) voice to top it off. Good music is still a requirement tho :yes:
Probably the reason i like disturbed so much. Damn good grunty noise, with a carnal, animalistic, yet clear and controlled voice :Punk:

I cant dissagree with you there

I love noise
Like disturbded as well