2 stroke oil is so bloody expensive

[nudedaytona]

Why is 2 stroke oil so bloody expensive. I've been on a few long rides, and the bike's been drinking it. I've been using the fully synthetic stuff, but at about $20 a litre its not cheap.

Should I try a cheaper mineral-based oil? The bike is an aprilia rs250.

Or does anyone know where I can get some fully synthetic stuff cheaply?

[vifferman]

It's probably cheaper if you can find someone to sell you a 20litre of it. In The Olde Daze, back when I had a 2-smoke, one could buy the erl at the forecourt, from the pump, and it was much cheaper, as you weren't paying for expensive containers, advertising, handling, etc etc.

[awayatc]

It is bloody cheap, compared to the costs of repair if you don't use enough....;)
But how much is " a lot" ? as in how many liters of petrol for 1 liter of oil?...(to check if your oil use is excessive...)
;)

[Ixion]

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Should I try a cheaper mineral-based oil? The bike is an aprilia rs250.



No. Unless I can buy the wreck off you.

Reality is, if you run a near pure race bike, you muct expect to have near race costs.

Want to use cheaper oil, get a GN250.

[imdying]

Pssssh. There's a reason why the RS250 will see off most other 250s without any trouble... it's a thoroughbred and should be treated as such.

You should be grateful that TTS is only $20 a litre!

If you put cheap mineral oil into it, I'll pay an Auckland member to stab you and steal it :rofl:

[nudedaytona]

Actually it hasn't been using that much, I have noticed that it seemed to have been quite thirsty when I went up and down on the hills, but around town and on the flat it seemed to be quite good with it.

Its just that I've been spending quite a bit on the bike I just put some new conti sport attacks on it for $500, but the tyres are awesome - the missus is jealous because she reckons I pay more attention to the bike than her.

[imdying]

Hahahah, they all do that mate :yes: (women that is)

My RGV is hoeing through the TTS pretty happily at the moment. I'll be checking the oil pump adjustment when I'm in the belly of the beast next :yes:

[vifferman]

Actually it hasn't been using that much, I have noticed that it seemed to have been quite thirsty when I went up and down on the hills, but around town and on the flat it seemed to be quite good with it.
Isn't that because the oil pump works on throttle position and/or revs?

[koba]

yeah, check adjustment of oil pump and go shopping around, and try find a deal. If you use enough to moan about it soemone will probably give it to ya a bit cheaper than stickerprice. I'm getting TTS at 17 bucks for a one litre.
Just about shat myself :shit: to see WMCC selling it for $30 a litre!

[imdying]

Yep, you're onto it.

[Ixion]

Isn't that because the oil pump works on throttle position and/or revs?

Both , actually.

[Deano]

I used to get it direct from Castrol in Seaview - but I worked in the motor industry so was able to provide a trade order.

It was $54 for 4L, back in 1991.

[gijoe1313]

Cor blimey :gob: And heres me sticking Valvoline 2 stroker oil at 9.95 a litre into Daisy! (Actually cheaper than that since I wait till Supercheap has their 25% sale and I buy out the entire stock of it ... 8 bottles perched happily on the shelf ensconced in the knowledge they will be used up soon! :whistle: :innocent:)

took me ages to find the right oil to give me the smokey, smelly and piss off the cagers behind oil! :devil2:

[imdying]

You should try TTS then... you'll sit in the fumes when it's warming up in the morning just cause it's that nice :yes:

[FilthyLuka]

Dude, you forked out for an RS250, a bit extra for decent oil isn't going to kill you (no oil might... seizure yay!)

on a similar note, anyone tried "Castrol R2 racingbike" oil? Any noticable difference?

[gijoe1313]

Its the "smokeless emission" of TTS that has me harrumphing! :lol: I like the smoke!

And Daisy seems to love the muck I am currently feeding her, such a lush trollop greedily guzzling the love juice when I am wringing her out! :o :innocent:

But yeah, a RS250 deserves the creme de la creme ... you wouldn't want to be forcing $9.95 per litre stuff when you can be using the mucho goodo one! :msn-wink:

[Str8 Jacket]

Its the "smokeless emission" of TTS that has me harrumphing! :lol: I like the smoke!


Smokeless maybe but it smells sooooo damn good, so good that I even put it in my A100!

[roogazza]

Things have obviously moved along a bit, my YDS3's and T20's used to get Castrol XL !! ??? (come to think of it , so did my H2 ! guess you had to be there ?) Gaz. :wari:

[Drew]

Things have obviously moved along a bit, my YDS3's and T20's used to get Castrol XL !! ??? (come to think of it , so did my H2 ! guess you had to be there ?) Gaz. :wari:

Yep, I ran my pair of T500's on 10/40 motor oil. Thrashed the arse off 'em and they ran sweet. Only down side was they smoked more than when on two stroke oily stuff.

[Sollyboy]

Why is 2 stroke oil so bloody expensive. I've been on a few long rides, and the bike's been drinking it. I've been using the fully synthetic stuff, but at about $20 a litre its not cheap.

Should I try a cheaper mineral-based oil? The bike is an aprilia rs250.

Or does anyone know where I can get some fully synthetic stuff cheaply?

I started buying 5 litre packs from the boaty shops, you can get good stuff cheap and some packaging even states its suitable for motor bikes

[xwhatsit]

Yep, I ran my pair of T500's on 10/40 motor oil. Thrashed the arse off 'em and they ran sweet. Only down side was they smoked more than when on two stroke oily stuff.

So, normal engine oil? Did it smell as good? I ask, because when my bike overheats and leaks oil onto the hot exhausts (creating smoke), the smell is an awful burning oil smell, not the gorgeous two-stroke smell. Is it the mix of of special 2T oil and petrol that makes that distinctive odour?

[speedpro]

You could try going to your local friendly bike shop/garage/mechanic dude and ordering a case. I got some in for people when we had the supermarket and basically just covered costs when we sold it.

[Racey Rider]

Last year I ran my racer on Valvoline 'racing two stroke' - $10/L @ Supercheap Autos.
It's not fully synthetic, but seemed to handle a screaming motor well.
Took the exhaust off the other day and it looked clean as. Haven't had the piston out, but a quick look up the exhaust port and everything looked beautiful.

[Drew]

So, normal engine oil? Did it smell as good? I ask, because when my bike overheats and leaks oil onto the hot exhausts (creating smoke), the smell is an awful burning oil smell, not the gorgeous two-stroke smell. Is it the mix of of special 2T oil and petrol that makes that distinctive odour?

Ya know, this is the first time I've thought about it. It didn't have that distinctive two stroke smell, but it certainly didn't smell like a car does when it's getting tired and smokey. Wierd.:blink:

[jcupit69]

Got an RS250 and have the same problem. TTS and 98 octain in a thirsty bike aint to kind on the wallet, but its better than having nasty plugs ever couple of tousand k's or blowing the engine.
Im trying to get my pistons to last more than 12000km's lol

[jcupit69]

Smokeless maybe but it smells sooooo damn good, so good that I even put it in my A100!
Ya, u can't beat the smell of a 2 stroke in the morning!

[gijoe1313]

Ya, u can't beat the smell of a 2 stroke in the morning!

.... it smells like riding!

apocalypse now .. "I love the smell of napalm in the morning ..." "... it smells like victory!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwqdBkaWsTA

[imdying]

Heh, my neighbour is more than happy for me to fill his garage with TTS smoke when I leave :yes: And can ya blame him :second:

[sugilite]

So, TTS stand for Terrific Tantalizing Smell then?

[koba]

Last year I ran my racer on Valvoline 'racing two stroke' - $10/L @ Supercheap Autos.
It's not fully synthetic, but seemed to handle a screaming motor well.
Took the exhaust off the other day and it looked clean as. Haven't had the piston out, but a quick look up the exhaust port and everything looked beautiful.

Cleaning deposits out of my exhaust Is what I want to avoid most so if that valvoline stufff does the biz it may be really worth a look...

and before anyone says it: Not the type of deposits it might obtain after a night at Drews!

[Drew]

and before anyone says it: Not the type of deposits it might obtain after a night at Drews!

You refering to the rust deposits it would get from being left out in the rain? I'd never be allowed to put the RG in the garage, shit, the stunt bike only gets shelter if I really shoe horn everything in there.

[cruza]

You should try TTS then... you'll sit in the fumes when it's warming up in the morning just cause it's that nice :yes:

Yep got to love following ya on the wed nite rides......

[pete376403]

If you can live with the mess* nothing beats Castrol R40. Smells like heaven.
And in a Dirt Bike test of all the oils (way back in the 70's) it made more power on a dyno than any other oil - proper test too - new piston and rings for EACH test, Bike was a Yamaha DT1
*R40 tends to gum up the works of a motor

[Aiolos]

Back when my bike actually went, I used Shell VSX. Fully synthetic, but only about $50 for 4L.
And it's reccommended by Rotax for use in their flying machine engines, so it can't be too bad.

[hurricane_r]

probably seems like it drinks so much cause u gauge it by the top resivoir by the tank, its actualy got another massive chamber full of oil, check your oil light works, and fill it up less-often

[nudedaytona]

I've just been sticking my finger in the oil resovoir and topping it up whenever it comes out clean. Using Bel Ray fully synthetic at the moment - think it was about $90 for 4L

[MDR2]

Fucking aye, not sure what the last owner of my bike put in but I just threw in a liter of Valvoline oil in the weekend to keep levels up and the oil light off.

Supercheap winnar rumber 1!!!

Fark does she smoke now :D As a result my Dad quite enjoyed following me to the bike mechanic shop today.

[gijoe1313]

Fucking aye, not sure what the last owner of my bike put in but I just threw in a liter of Valvoline oil in the weekend to keep levels up and the oil light off.

Supercheap winnar rumber 1!!!

Fark does she smoke now :D As a result my Dad quite enjoyed following me to the bike mechanic shop today.

Aye, that it is, that it is! I experimented with other brands before finding that this one is the smokey dokey! :woohoo: :msn-wink: