Attn BD sub-editorial committee

[Big Dave]

In mah current piece i wish to convey:

"You know what a lot of bike brochures are like - generic as a horoscope and appear to have been written by the agency copywriter who got the gig because of his English Lit. and uncle who owned a Norton."

MS Word tells me the 'and' after the Lit . should be capitalsed.
(I note firefox does not)

What says the house style/convention for capital after an abbreviation?

[Crisis management]

You're relying on an american programme to check your spelling?????


I would write it as you have, no capitalisation after abbreviation.

[vifferman]

I reckon it would read better if you left out the whole "English Lit." part. To whit (to whoooo....):
"You know what a lot of bike brochures are like - as generic as a horoscope and appearing to have been written by the agency copywriter who got the gig because his uncle once owned a Norton."

[xwhatsit]

Why would you use a capital there? It's not a full stop to mark the end of a sentence, it's a full stop to signal an abbreviation. Which is what you said, so I suppose you understand that.

In short, no. Keep finger off the shift key.

By the way, it's written `and uncle wot owned a Norton.'

[jafar]

It should only be capitalised because there is a full stop after Lit , that is what the spell checker has picked up.

[007XX]

No capital

[jafar]

Right now we have written your next article for you , when do we get to take one of those bikes for a "test ride " ??? :whistle:

[warewolf]

If you hit "explain" you will see that MS Word says "capitalize the first word of a sentence." We know it is not a new sentence, so this rule does not apply.

The real question is, are you using open punctuation, where the periods marking contractions are dropped? I would say yes, so it is not the a in and that needs fixing, but rather the period after the Lit should be omitted.

[vifferman]

It's going to take forever for the Big of Daveness to write his copy if he has to rely on the Kiwi Biker Executive Sub-editorial Committee.
Thank all that is unholy that nobody reads the krep I write, so it doesn't matter what I say.... :whistle:

[xwhatsit]

open punctuation

Ferkin' pansy hippie shits... mutter mutter... ruining language... modernisation feckers bastages....

Sorry. I just, like, commas, and stuff...
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[Big Dave]

I reckon it would read better if you left out the whole "English Lit." part. To whit (to whoooo....):
"You know what a lot of bike brochures are like - as generic as a horoscope and appearing to have been written by the agency copywriter who got the gig because his uncle once owned a Norton."


Re-read it and had exactly the same thought. word for word.

[Big Dave]

You're relying on an american programme to check your spelling?????
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Worse than that - the KB sub-committee.

[Big Dave]

No capital

I'm not talking about my business.

[Big Dave]

Hop online and download the BMW HP2 Megamoto brochure and you’ll see this quote.

‘The HP2 Megamoto is an uncompromising street bike. It’s equally at home drawing admiring glances in the urban jungle as it is tearing up country roads or drifting through corners on a racetrack. In keeping with the HP (BMW High Performance) philosophy, this is a machine that is stripped down to the bare essentials. Outstanding components and workmanship combine to make this a truly unique motorcycle – and its lightweight construction and powerful boxer engine ensure it delivers a unique adrenalin rush.’

You know what a lot of brochures are like - generic as a horoscope and appear to have been written by the agency copywriter who got the gig because his uncle once owned a Norton. However, after the full KR treatment I’ll happily endorse the BMW quote.

I think the grammar could be a slightly better, conversely my Bavarian ain’t that flash, apart from that. Bingo! (No, I don't mean the carburettors.)

[007XX]

I'm not talking about my business.

What a shame! There was I, awaiting with bated breath for the juicy details...:yawn:

:nya:

[Big Dave]

If you hit "explain" you will see that MS Word says "capitalize the first word of a sentence." We know it is not a new sentence, so this rule does not apply.

The real question is, are you using open punctuation, where the periods marking contractions are dropped? I would say yes, so it is not the a in and that needs fixing, but rather the period after the Lit should be omitted.

The only thing I want to do with that ^%@#)&*! paperclip is bend it into a hook and launch it skyward with the biggest rubber band I could find.

[jafar]

Hop online and download the BMW HP2 Megamoto brochure and you’ll see this quote.

‘The HP2 Megamoto is an uncompromising street bike. It’s equally at home drawing admiring glances in the urban jungle as it is tearing up country roads or drifting through corners on a racetrack. In keeping with the HP (BMW High Performance) philosophy, this is a machine that is stripped down to the bare essentials. Outstanding components and workmanship combine to make this a truly unique motorcycle – and its lightweight construction and powerful boxer engine ensure it delivers a unique adrenalin rush.’

I’ll happily endorse the BMW quote.

I think the grammar could be a slightly better, conversely my Bavarian ain’t that flash, apart from that. Bingo! (No, I don't mean the carburettors.)

They have managed to fill a whole paragraph by telling you absolutely nothing. What a waste of trees :laugh:

[Big Dave]

They have managed to fill a whole paragraph by telling you absolutely nothing. What a waste of trees :laugh:

That's where the real skill comes in - padding that out to 1,200 words. :devil2:

[warewolf]

The only thing I want to do with that ^%@#)&*! paperclip is bend it into a hook and launch it skyward with the biggest rubber band I could find.I thought you woulda changed to that cutsie puppydog thing? :bleh:

Turn the fecker off altogether.

[jafar]

That's where the real skill comes in - padding that out to 1,200 words. :devil2:

Well I guess they can't put in there that it is an overpriced half arsed attempt by a german manufacturer to get into a market that they can't hope to succeed in. :laugh:

[warewolf]

Well I guess they can't put in there that it is an overpriced half arsed attempt by a german manufacturer to get into a market that they can't hope to succeed in. :laugh:That would just be copying Ducati's Hype.

[Crisis management]

That would just be copying Ducati's Hype.

Hey, I'll remember this........the capital coast isn't that far away!

[Big Dave]

Hey, I'll remember this........the capital coast isn't that far away!

Ahh - Reminds me I have to do some badges.

I think I might do a mock one with some sort of fore....nah.......I have to do some badges....

[jafar]

That would just be copying Ducati's Hype.

Probably the same copy writer too :lol:

[Big Dave]

Well I guess they can't put in there that it is an overpriced half arsed attempt by a german manufacturer to get into a market that they can't hope to succeed in. :laugh:

I suspect the $28.5 k start means it won't have 'deep market penetration.'

But the bike is quite superb, nada on the half arses.

[jafar]

I suspect the $28.5 k start means it won't have 'deep market penetration.'

But the bike is quite superb, nada on the half arses.

$28.5 is way too much for that model IMHO.

I'm sure the build quality on the beemer is up to their usual excellent standard, it is the target market I was referring too.

[vifferman]

What a shame! There was I, awaiting with bated breath for the juicy details.
Well done, V! You learned and remembered! :niceone:

[007XX]

Well done, V! You learned and remembered! :niceone:

*bows humbly*

I do try...:D and can also be very trying, but that's another story!

[Big Dave]

You know what a lot of brochures are like, generic as a horoscope and appear to have been written by the agency copywriter who got the gig because his uncle once owned a Norton.

Hop online and download the BMW HP2 Megamoto brochure and you’ll see this quote.

‘The HP2 Megamoto is an uncompromising street bike. It’s equally at home drawing admiring glances in the urban jungle as it is tearing up country roads or drifting through corners on a racetrack. In keeping with the HP (BMW High Performance) philosophy, this is a machine that is stripped down to the bare essentials. Outstanding components and workmanship combine to make this a truly unique motorcycle – and its lightweight construction and powerful boxer engine ensure it delivers a unique adrenalin rush.’

Yes it’s advertising copy, but after giving the latest HP2 the KR treatment, I’ll endorse it.
The grammar could be better and slightly more to the point, conversely my Bavarian isn’t that flash - apart from that: Bingo! (No, not like the carburettors.)

[warewolf]

I have to do some badges....

Badges? We don't need no steekin' badges!

[Hitcher]

Dave, Dave, Dave, Dave, Dave.

Capitalisation of the first letter in a word is the general preserve of the first word in a sentence and of proper nouns. I note that you have used the arcane convention of putting a full-stop after an abbreviation, leading to your confusion about the role of the word "and", which should not in this case be capitalised. Nor should there be a full-stop after "Lit". I would add the word "degree" in its stead, to make life a bit easier for your more gentle readers.

I agree with the sentiment of the sentence in question.

[Big Dave]

Keep up will ya - we're up to take 3 and it's (the lit.) history anyway.

[Hitcher]

Keep up will ya

Golly. Sometimes life moves on quickly.

[Edbear]

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Yeah I had one of those. The wheel fell off...

[Big Dave]

Golly. Sometimes life moves on quickly.

I spent a week in Wellington one afternoon.

[jafar]

I spent a week in Wellington one afternoon.

only one week ??