Ouch... My pride

[jaymzw]

Got my GN last week and aftaa fair bit of ridin my mother suggested i ride into her work today b4 she took me for a chekup at the hospital. i live on the shore and the drive from browns bay to takapuna was easy. anyway leave the bike there and come back bout an hour later and its starting to rain. nothing to much but of course it got heavier and heavier.

ANYWAY turning off East Coast Road going down to brownsbay some :tugger: gets behind me and sits right up my ass all the way down. As you kno wen your learnin this shit weighs on your mind and when i get to a round about and some insolent prick in a skyline dosnt indicate and i grab a handfull of front brake the front washes out and :bye:.

WELL what i learned was
(A) when a cars stuck up your ass pull over
(B) I H8 pple in skylines

What i would like to learn:
(A) How much to replace right idicator
(B)Any info on the North Shore learner nights

Thanks an sorry bout the long post

[trump-lady]

Awww crud.......
Sowwy to hear bout your boo boo, I hate rain too but your right, think fuck em (if they are up ya butt) or pull over then everyones happy.........

[jaymzw]

LOL funny thing is i wna go out an ride now. Roads are dry but better not.

[madbikeboy]

At least the tailgater didn't steam roll over you as well buddy...

Rain riding is mostly about experience and practice, you've got to be ultra-smooth and plan ahead. Your attention is like a $20 note - you can only spend so much of it at any one time, so if you're paying $19 worth of attention to your mirrors...

There's a good article in the Superbike mag on the shelves about riding in the rain. Basically it says, ride smooth, practice. Old school racers and SoCal drag racers practice their launches in the wet - I got talking to a guy in LA who had a turbo'd and nitrous'd Hayabusa and he looks for rain...

Plan ahead, look ahead, squeeze the brake lever progressively, don't just grab it, use the back brake wisely, don't jam it. Steer smoothly, don't brake and steer to start with.

And, Daniel San, always look eye.

[madbikeboy]

LOL funny thing is i wna go out an ride now. Roads are dry but better not.

Actually, be a good idea to go out for a cautious ride tonight after the traffic dies down. Take it easy and regain some confidence................. Where on the shore are you?

[jaymzw]

Im in Torbay just over the hill from browns

[trump-lady]

Agreed get back on the horse......

[madbikeboy]

I can't ride with you tonight, but I can probably get free and ride with you sometime tomorrow afternoon - it's supposed to be raining, and I can talk you through the basics (not pretending I'm an instructor, but I've been riding a little for a while). Plus I live over the other side of the browns bay hill...

Find other people to ride with, it does your confidence good, and it's the best way to learn.

[madbikeboy]

Agreed get back on the horse......

Thanks for agreeing - I'm never sure that my advice is any good...!

[jaymzw]

Thanx sent you a PM:niceone:

[ital916]

no worries mate, rocky starts to biking can happen *cough* look at me *cough*, back on the horse eh youll love it:niceone:

[trump-lady]

Thanks for agreeing - I'm never sure that my advice is any good...!

That was a really nice thing to offer a fellow biker. GIJoe did something similar for me and although I hated him for taking me on 10ks of gravel roads because I mentioned my fear of gravel! It actually really helped and Im kinda over the gravel thing. Also when someones there talking advising and just lending a hand it helps build your confidence.

Your really nice

[gijoe1313]

That was a really nice thing to offer a fellow biker. GIJoe did something similar for me and although I hated him for taking me on 10ks of gravel roads because I mentioned my fear of gravel! It actually really helped and Im kinda over the gravel thing. Also when someones there talking advising and just lending a hand it helps build your confidence.

Your really nice

:whistle: Meesa solly! :devil2: Blame Renegade_master fer that as well! :oi-grr:

So you've also forgiven me for the night time, downhill in the rain twisties section as well? :innocent:

[trump-lady]

:hug::hug:
:whistle: Meesa solly! :devil2: Blame Renegade_master fer that as well! :oi-grr:

So you've also forgiven me for the night time, downhill in the rain twisties section as well? :innocent:


ahhh maybe :soon: :hug:

[bane]

not trying to suggest this was the sole cause, but assuming you have oem tyres on the GN, and if you can stretch the budget, suggest you upgrade the tyres.

I had an FXR150, and in greasy and/or wet conditions the oem tyres made for slides a plenty, no matter how careful the braking was. Moving to Bridgestone BT39's fixed the issue immediately, and made braking far more predictable.

Pirelli MT75's are another option.

[jaymzw]

Yea had a look now. Apparently they are the standard tyres. I only got the bike last week from holeshot takapuna. Do you think they would change the front or if not how much would new rubber set me back

[mstriumph]

......starting to rain. nothing to much but of course it got heavier and heavier.

........some :tugger: gets behind me and sits right up my ass all the way down. As you kno wen your learnin this shit weighs on your mind ....

that sucks fella - sorry to hear

but be assured that it isn't only when you are learning that this kinda thing bothers you - it's ALWAYS difficult to concentrate on riding in a way that's safe for you when someone is acting like an idiot behind........

[Mom]

ANYWAY turning off East Coast Road going down to brownsbay some :tugger: gets behind me and sits right up my ass all the way down. As you kno wen your learnin this shit weighs on your mind...

You need a youngatart! she abuses car drivers for doing this!

I agree it does nothing for your confidence when there is a car following too close that is for certain. The more you ride, the more confident you become the less likely that is to affect your concentration.


...then i get to a round about and some insolent prick in a skyline dosnt indicate and i grab a handfull of front brake the front washes out and :bye:.

Thanks an sorry bout the long post

Mate, wet road, after being tailgated, being cut off by a "cute" driver no wonder you grabbed a handful of front.

First thing, what is the tyre you have on the front of the GN? If it is the standard issue plastic that the bike came with, GET RID of it NOW!

I dont know of any mentor groups down that way, but I am happy to pottle down and go for a ride out with you. I ride a bit of a dinosaur of a bike, so we wont go fast. Did you learn progressive braking when you did your basic handling? Get out there and practise it. Dont matter if you feel like a dick! Just do it!

PM me if you want to go for a ride!

[rainman]

Bummer about the prang, glad to hear you're OK.

You could try a RRRS (http://www.rrrs.org.nz/) course.... http://www.rrrs.org.nz/

And like others have said, change the GN tyres. It's worth it.

[Mom]

Yea had a look now. Apparently they are the standard tyres. I only got the bike last week from holeshot takapuna. Do you think they would change the front or if not how much would new rubber set me back

Dont worry about the expense, it wont be huge. Get your Mom to pay for it mate, most Moms I know would happily fork out to repace a bit of plastic that pretends to be a front tyre, after their precious has gone to ground.

Thank goodness you are not too banged up. Ring Atomic Wreckers for a new indicator!

[fireball]

there still is the Wednesday night crew out albany way... im sure they still riding out and about
i am sure i can spare you a couple of rides out too if you need....

but yes also change the GN tyres pronto! they are a death wish esp if its the bike i am thinking of that i saw at holeshot just before xmas had the bloody Chinese wheels going on... good for straight line only...

[madbikeboy]

That was a really nice thing to offer a fellow biker. GIJoe did something similar for me and although I hated him for taking me on 10ks of gravel roads because I mentioned my fear of gravel! It actually really helped and Im kinda over the gravel thing. Also when someones there talking advising and just lending a hand it helps build your confidence.

Your really nice

Aw, shucks............. :clap:

We're a community of riders, and we have a shared responsibility to make sure that people entering our world do it safely, and have good experiences. I was lucky enough to grow up around motorcyclists, and to have really patient people explain why it's a dumb idea to do certain stuff. Plus, he lives locally, so it's no hassle to go out for a quiet ride. Plus I've always wondered if the Gixer can keep up with a GN250. :)

BTW, classy ride, have you seen the latest Trumpy 675 naked? I want one just for the giggle factor...

[MotoKuzzi]

Gotta watch those white painted lines in this weather as well, lucky to be able even to keep my foot from sliding out while parked at the lights tonight

[madbikeboy]

Well, we went for a ride and stopped on a very quiet sidestreet in an industrial estate - spent some time learning braking skills, and spent a lot of time talking through observation, planning, how to deal with drivers etc. I think young James is pretty typical of all of us when we start out - shows heaps of promise, and is looking forward to getting off the slow old bike onto something faster. If any of you others wouldn't mind, I reckon it'd be a good idea for him to ride with some of you - safety in numbers...


BTW... We got bollocked by a bad tempered truckie while we were out, he took exception to us using such a busy street (4 vehicles went past in an hour), and he gave us an earful in both directions, something about his haemroid cream being ineffective, and this was causing impotence problems for him and his boyfriend. :oi-grr: I gave his boss a call (the joys of signwritten vehicles), explained the situation, apparently he's known for being a rager and he's about to get warning number 2...

[Coyote]

(B) I H8 pple in skylines

I height them too :msn-wink:

[xwhatsit]

Dont worry about the expense, it wont be huge. Get your Mom to pay for it mate, most Moms I know would happily fork out to repace a bit of plastic that pretends to be a front tyre, after their precious has gone to ground.

Mom, will you pay for a pair of new BT45s? I locked the front trying to do a stoppie in the wet on a white line yesterday...



Wet weather riding is something that's a little tricky at first, but once you start to get the hang of it, it improves your riding overall significantly. Grabbing a handful of front brake is something that's hard to unlearn as a reaction when you panic. Something I saw written the other day was to avoid covering the brake lever -- keep your hand on the throttle, and if you need to brake then move your hand to the lever and this will give you more control and less panic-grab.

Also note that bikes are very narrow manœverable things, and in many situations you are better served by trying to swerve around the hazard. Or braking a little then swerving. This saved my hairy arse on Monday, nutter pulled out from a parking space next to the Newmarket pools, was able to stuff bike down the left of mad cager when I worked out brakes weren't going to help me.

Bling for madbikeboy.

[jaymzw]

Cheers man today was a big learning curve/ confidence booster. thouroghly injoyed:woohoo:

[yungatart]

You need a youngatart! she abuses car drivers for doing this!



Absolutely! I only charge a small fee, but the entertainment that goes along with it is worth every cent!!:banana:
Seriously, if you are being tailgated and it is bothering you to the point that you aren't concentrating on the road ahead, pull over and let the plonker go.
You can tackle him/her another day!

[Nagash]

Also note that bikes are very narrow manœverable things, and in many situations you are better served by trying to swerve around the hazard. Or braking a little then swerving. This saved my hairy arse on Monday, nutter pulled out from a parking space next to the Newmarket pools, was able to stuff bike down the left of mad cager when I worked out brakes weren't going to help me.



Hmm, had an interesting situation.. riding through Titirangi Village and some women looking completely the opposite way pulls out directly infront of me, maybe 3 metres ahead? The road was still damp from a previous shower and I managed to panic and slam on the front break (I was only going about 40). Tyre locked up and down I go, then something I didn't expect, women looks down at me on the ground right next to her door, mouths a shocked apology and drives off! I was trapped underneath my bike and didn't catch her number but if I ever see her again...

[NOMIS]

(B) I H8 pple in skylines



I cant stand them either "waaaaapppppssssshhhh" everywea they go so annoying backward hats tilted seat wankers, well not all of the but the majority and then u get the gangsta white kids who think there gods gift,
drifter wanabes.
and most of them except gtrs are slow!
my hornet will smoke em

[xwhatsit]

It'll happen all the time. That's why it's good to get the hang of dodging the loonies when they pull stuff like that. Counter-steering is something to get a handle on sooner rather than later.

[doozy]

If you haven't done so already (I also ride a gn2fiddy) I went into cycletreads (barrys point rd) and they said a new tyre for that bike is between 90-150ish depending on what you wanted and any of those is better than the factory tyres (thats fitted and balanced :niceone: ) I'm taking mine there on friday (after its fixed :( ) to get the tyres replaced

[gtr boy]

(B) I H8 pple in skylines



I cant stand them either "waaaaapppppssssshhhh" everywea they go so annoying backward hats tilted seat wankers, well not all of the but the majority and then u get the gangsta white kids who think there gods gift,
drifter wanabes.
and most of them except gtrs are slow!
my hornet will smoke em

did some one mention GTRs..............hehehe
if some ones up your azz adjust your mirrors so you cant see them...out a sight out a mind :niceone:

[ital916]

:nono:And then if you fall that out of mind driver will plow over you, well use their bodykit as a scoop and turn you into mush. If someone is tailgating, I will ride whilst checking what they are doing and when safe pull over to let them pass. Better behind a loonie than in front.

[gtr boy]

:nono:And then if you fall that out of mind driver will plow over you, well use their bodykit as a scoop and turn you into mush. If someone is tailgating, I will ride whilst checking what they are doing and when safe pull over to let them pass. Better behind a loonie than in front.

then if i fall!!!!!.........have more confidence in your abilities mate ,youll go much futher

[NOMIS]

Are you one of the guys who thinks its smart to sit on the rear rubber of a bike tryna race i havnt come across any skyline that can match my bike except a 400hp gts-4 havnt yet come against a gtr, but mate thru twisties and city streets ill smoke most gaylines. ** i mean skylines...
stick to racing civics you guys.
and I relise my bike aint that fast so no i don't bother over 130-140 even tho id probally still pull on the average gts-t ..
no hard feelings agains skylines just the sterotypical people whom seem to like them and drive them.

[ital916]

then if i fall!!!!!.........have more confidence in your abilities mate ,youll go much futher

I have confidence mate, but always been prepared, what if your halfway through a turn and hit diesel eh for example. What i said has no relation to confidence it's just smart riding.

[gtr boy]

im not trying to be a jerk here ,sorry if it came across that way..........
seaminfuk if you get the chance to drive a GTR you should youll love it

[discotex]

Are you one of the guys who thinks its smart to sit on the rear rubber of a bike tryna race i havnt come across any skyline that can match my bike except a 400hp gts-4 havnt yet come against a gtr, but mate thru twisties and city streets ill smoke most gaylines. ** i mean skylines...
stick to racing civics you guys.
and I relise my bike aint that fast so no i don't bother over 130-140 even tho id probally still pull on the average gts-t ..
no hard feelings agains skylines just the sterotypical people whom seem to like them and drive them.

:lol:

That post sounds exactly like the kind of tosser you assume all skyline owners are. In fact you sound like the tosser that cage drivers assume all bikers are.

I bet you believe Honda riders are all gay too ;)

[discotex]

im not trying to be a jerk here ,sorry if it came across that way..........
seaminfuk if you get the chance to drive a GTR you should youll love it

Great cars. Usually driven by people who like bikes in my experience. Same as the other top end jap 4s.

There's plenty of wanker boy racers out there but they're but then there's plenty of wanker bikers and plenty of wanker Daewoo drivers.

If you really wanted to stereotype Nissan drivers it's the Sylvia drivers you'd be wary of now not the Skylines :lol:

[ital916]

I'm not really into nissans but I've always wanted to try one of those souped up beats you see in hot 4's magazines lol I have nothing against gtrs as long as they don't have anythin with me on the road.:yes: