Hyo tyres; Should I be worried?

[mowgli]

I bought a new Hyosung GT250R a month ago and love it. Over 2000k ridden so tyres worn in. Today I went riding in the rain deliberately to gain experience. I got a little loose in the rear at a roundabout when I decided the muppet giving way to me might actually not have seen me at all. Basically I sort of stood it up and braked - a little aggressively it turns out. The rear locked and slid out alarmingly but recovered as soon as I released the pedal. Braking was completely ineffective really although I didn't end up on the ground and evidently the muppet did see me as I would have hit him otherwise.

Today I was reading this thead (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=64495) and now I'm wondering if I should be worried about the stock tyres on Hyosung? So far they haven't let me down but I have no idea how their performance compares with mainstream tyre brands.

Any and all advice welcome.

Update and Summary

It appears that the majority of Hyosung GT250R owners are very happy with their stock Shinko tyres. If you're an aggressive rider and like to push it then you will see benefits in switching to better tyres (such as Pirelli Sport Demons) but for most riders this is probably unnecessary and money wasted.

The biggest tip is to get out and practise in a range of conditions. Get a feel for how your bike and tyres perform and ride within those limits. White paint and manhole covers are slippery no matter which tyres you have on. First rain after a dry spell is particularly bad on all surfaces. Be smooth on the throttle and brakes especially at intersections. If you do lock up, keep you head up, release the brake and look where you want to go.

Lastly, if you're worried about riding in the wet then the best thing you can do is more riding in the wet. Take it easy out there :)

[TOTO]

I bought a new Hyosung GT250R a month ago and love it. Over 2000k ridden so tyres worn in. Today I went riding in the rain deliberately to gain experience. I got a little loose in the rear at a roundabout when I decided the muppet giving way to me might actually not have seen me at all. Basically I sort of stood it up and braked - a little aggressively it turns out. The rear locked and slid out alarmingly but recovered as soon as I released the pedal. Braking was completely ineffective really although I didn't end up on the ground and evidently the muppet did see me as I would have hit him otherwise.

Today I was reading this thead (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=64495) and now I'm wondering if I should be worried about the stock tyres on Hyosung? So far they haven't let me down but I have no idea how their performance compares with mainstream tyre brands.

Any and all advice welcome.


hey , funny I just posted a thread about wet: http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=64511

It would be interesting dough to hear from people who have changed the Shinko standard tires, coz I still have myne and sisnce its my first bike dont know what to exopect like you.

I'll be observing this thread :corn:

[rphenix]

The difference being newer GN's come with absolutely shit stocks so bad I'm suprised they can even get a WOF in NZ almost as bad as jap imports with snow tyres. The Hyo's could have better tyres but they aren't terrible either in my opinion (I wouldn't bother replacing them but each to their own!).

A lot of newer riders favor the rear break a little more than they should make sure when your doing emergency breaking your using both, evenly and gradually applied (gradually doesn't have to be done slowly). Try a few practice emergency breaking situations in car parks, look for smooth seal and rough and try with different road conditions (rain versus dry) so you can get a feel for the maximum amount of breaking you can get out of your bike in different situations without locking anything up.

Hey at least you recovered nicely shows those 2k's have given you some good riding experience :) Don't forget the crash bungs if you think you may bin it while doing your practices they don't cost that much and can save a bit of damage on those fairings.

[Meekey_Mouse]

Hey... I don't know about the Hyo Shinko's lol, I refused to ride on them at all! But....

My first bike (GSX 250) had stock tyres and after a few experiences on those I asked what was happening... after a change in tyres it felt like a new bike... It actually stuck to the line I wanted instead of drifting out!

So my advice would be to change them to a much better tyre, I'm sure you won't regret it :2thumbsup

At the moment I'm running Metzler's on my Hyo and they don't seem to be too bad.. Just make sure they have the correct air pressure :Oops:

[DingoZ]

Have not had any worries with them so far..
Everyday to work and back - no matter what the weather..Hills corners m-way - up hill and down on twisties. Not a problem
4000k's done on them..---

[325rocket]

there is a thread on here somewhere about hyosung tyres and how crap they are. ive spent the last 30 mins looking for it for you but couldnt find it sorry.
i did find this (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=54267&highlight=pirelli+sport+demons) that might help.
the best thing i have done so far is change my tyres, they were ok in the dry but shit house in the wet. with how (slow) i ride i probably would have been ok but mentally i never trusted them and you really dont need that on your mind when a corner catches you out.
if you search for reviews on hyosung tyres on the net you will find a heap of bad reviews and you too will never trust them.
change the buggers ...

pirelli sport demons are a good start

[rphenix]

Have not had any worries with them so far..
Everyday to work and back - no matter what the weather..Hills corners m-way - up hill and down on twisties. Not a problem
4000k's done on them..---

Yep I've done at least 4k myself on the GV with its stock tyres no problems and my wifes bike (which is a GT250 comet) has been no dramas and shes been cut off a few times so had to find out how good they are hehe shes on 3,000ks at the moment.

[Cache Wraith]

Don't know about Wellington but it's been dry in Auckland for weeks.After todays rain the roads are mega slippery and if it's been dry in Wellington for a while then a fresh rain is going to bring all the recently deposited oil, diesel, coolant to the road surface. Chances are any bike or set of tyres would come unstuck in similar conditions. I try and practice emergency braking every-time I got out on a road. Often I forget to but try and make it a habit.

[325rocket]

Weaver will be on here soon telling you everything i wrote is crap ...

dont listen to him ... hes crazy :spudbn::rofl::doobey:

[mowgli]

Don't forget the crash bungs if you think you may bin it while doing your practices they don't cost that much and can save a bit of damage on those fairings.

Huh? I've never heard of crash bungs. Is it hiding a few dollars in your sock drawer to pay for the repair :-)

[Weaver]

I've done 12000k's on my Shinko's and i've only had one major incident on them (lowside).
However i've haven't had any other problems with them. I suppose it depends on how you ride your bike. If you ride it pretty casually then I wouldn't worry about them. If you like to try and push your bike a little hard then it might be a good idea to get them changed.
Personally I just can't be fucked getting a set of tyres with heaps of tread still on them changed.

In summery, just take extra care in the wet with them.

Edit - I did have the arse end slide a bit last night in the rain going through a corner though

[325rocket]

im interested in crash bungs aswell anyone know where to get them for hyosungs?

[TOTO]

im interested in crash bungs aswell anyone know where to get them for hyosungs?

can you explain please what crash bungs are ? is that like crash bars , those round things that stick out ?

[Weaver]

can you explain please what crash bungs are ? is that like crash bars , those round things that stick out ?

Oggy knobs. Those nylon delies that stick out the side of the bike and are often half ground away :shutup:. I've been thinking about making some for awhile. Might do it one day.
The fairing does a good job of protecting mechanics of the bike :shit:

[mowgli]

can you explain please what crash bungs are ? is that like crash bars , those round things that stick out ?

Ahhh! Google is my friend. Turns out crash bungs are bobbin like appendages that you attach to the side of your bike so that if it falls over at slow speed the bung gets scraped while the rest of the bike doesn't. Pretty small and unobtrusive too. Nice!

[TOTO]

Ahhh! Google is my friend. Turns out crash bungs are bobbin like appendages that you attach to the side of your bike so that if it falls over at slow speed the bung gets scraped while the rest of the bike doesn't. Pretty small and unobtrusive too. Nice!

where can you buy them or if they are easily made , what is the method of making them ? do you know ? also do they look ugly ? have you seen them ? are they removable once in place ?

[DingoZ]

Speaking with the mechanic I take my bike too....(Hyosung GT250R), the bungs are standard. They bolt into the frame. Would only entail a small barely noticable cut to the fairing on either side for the bung to be able to be positioned correctly, as there are already bolt holes drilled in the frame...
..
I will be getting them done on my bike shortly. If you are interested I will post pics of the install and prices for you...:)


Also talking with a friend and fellow biker from Aus, who has a GT650R, and who races it...ON SHINKO Race tyres, he says also he has no dramas with the Shinko Tyres. Very reliable, he even puts them on his wife's bike. So either he don't care about his wife or he trusts the tyres.
Me thinks he trusts the tyres somehow....:)

[Weaver]

I'd be intrested in that Dingoz. Wish I had had some about a month ago though, lol

[TOTO]

Speaking with the mechanic I take my bike too....(Hyosung GT250R), the bungs are standard. They bolt into the frame. Would only entail a small barely noticable cut to the fairing on either side for the bung to be able to be positioned correctly, as there are already bolt holes drilled in the frame...
..
I will be getting them done on my bike shortly. If you are interested I will post pics of the install and prices for you...:)


Also talking with a friend and fellow biker from Aus, who has a GT650R, and who races it...ON SHINKO Race tyres, he says also he has no dramas with the Shinko Tyres. Very reliable, he even puts them on his wife's bike. So either he don't care about his wife or he trusts the tyres.
Me thinks he trusts the tyres somehow....:)


please sned pics , coz I want to put some on mine

[rwh]

Don't know about Wellington but it's been dry in Auckland for weeks.After todays rain the roads are mega slippery and if it's been dry in Wellington for a while then a fresh rain is going to bring all the recently deposited oil, diesel, coolant to the road surface. Chances are any bike or set of tyres would come unstuck in similar conditions. I try and practice emergency braking every-time I got out on a road. Often I forget to but try and make it a habit.

IIRC until yesterday, last time it rained here was Christmas Eve. A while, anyway.

Yesterday I was out in my car when the rain started. I was having a terrible time with wheelspin any time I wanted a slightly hurried departure from an intersection ... I want 4wd :(

Richard

[TOTO]

IIRC until yesterday, last time it rained here was Christmas Eve. A while, anyway.

Yesterday I was out in my car when the rain started. I was having a terrible time with wheelspin any time I wanted a slightly hurried departure from an intersection ... I want 4wd :(

Richard

I think 4wd do this too, rwh I'll tell you a story I read in the herald a couple of months back, the rest of you can read it too :killingme


There was a guy teaching his daughter (learner cager) to drive his manual Subaru Forester. She was on the roundabout, strugling to take off, stayed there for 2-3 minutes. Que built up behind her, she was waiting for the perfect spot but every time it came she stalled(I been there too). The father got nervous , got out of the passenger seat , switched places with his daughter. In the next available space screetching tyres he takes of in the roundabout and because he needs to turn - him spinning the wheel and pressing on the gas and releasing the clutch suddenly sends him drifting trough the rounabout.
Halfway trough the roundabout his 4wd kick in and his car from drifting sidewais engages all 4 wheels and sudenly the car is going not sideways in an arch but a straight line - into the middle of the rocks on the roundabout.

true story

The point - if you are rough in a 2wd chances are you will still have a rough ride in 4wd.

:)

funniest real story I ever read in a newspaper

[disenfranchised]

Have not had any worries with them so far..
Everyday to work and back - no matter what the weather..Hills corners m-way - up hill and down on twisties. Not a problem
4000k's done on them..---

I'm the same.
Coming up to 8000k's and no mishaps so far.
Had my rear lock up and slide in a few emergency situations in the wet.
Had the rear step out a bit hitting slick patches, paint etc while cornering in the wet.
Just teaches you to ride a bit more gently!!

Otherwise they seem fine.
I wont be changing them till I have to.

[rwh]

I think 4wd do this too, rwh I'll tell you a story I read in the herald a couple of months back, the rest of you can read it too :killingme


There was a guy teaching his daughter (learner cager) to drive his manual Subaru Forester. She was on the roundabout, strugling to take off, stayed there for 2-3 minutes. Que built up behind her, she was waiting for the perfect spot but every time it came she stalled(I been there too). The father got nervous , got out of the passenger seat , switched places with his daughter. In the next available space screetching tyres he takes of in the roundabout and because he needs to turn - him spinning the wheel and pressing on the gas and releasing the clutch suddenly sends him drifting trough the rounabout.
Halfway trough the roundabout his 4wd kick in and his car from drifting sidewais engages all 4 wheels and sudenly the car is going not sideways in an arch but a straight line - into the middle of the rocks on the roundabout.


Hmm - I think I'd heard about that 'feature' of Subarus, though I thought it was only the automatics - I thought the manuals were full time. Oh well - will have to research more thoroughly if I ever get round to buying one.

Richard

[mowgli]

It appears that the majority of Hyosung GT250R owners are very happy with their stock Shinko tyres. If you're an aggressive rider and like to push it then you will see benefits in switching to better tyres (such as Pirelli Sport Demons) but for most riders this is probably unnecessary and money wasted.

The biggest tip is to get out and practise in a range of conditions. Get a feel for how your bike and tyres perform and ride within those limits. White paint and manhole covers are slippery no matter which tyres you have on. First rain after a dry spell is particularly bad on all surfaces. Be smooth on the throttle and brakes especially at intersections. If you do lock up, keep you head up, release the brake and look where you want to go.

Lastly, if you're worried about riding in the wet then the best thing you can do is more riding in the wet. Take it easy out there :)

[Weaver]

I think 4wd do this too, rwh I'll tell you a story I read in the herald a couple of months back, the rest of you can read it too :killingme


There was a guy teaching his daughter (learner cager) to drive his manual Subaru Forester. She was on the roundabout, strugling to take off, stayed there for 2-3 minutes. Que built up behind her, she was waiting for the perfect spot but every time it came she stalled(I been there too). The father got nervous , got out of the passenger seat , switched places with his daughter. In the next available space screetching tyres he takes of in the roundabout and because he needs to turn - him spinning the wheel and pressing on the gas and releasing the clutch suddenly sends him drifting trough the rounabout.
Halfway trough the roundabout his 4wd kick in and his car from drifting sidewais engages all 4 wheels and sudenly the car is going not sideways in an arch but a straight line - into the middle of the rocks on the roundabout.

true story

The point - if you are rough in a 2wd chances are you will still have a rough ride in 4wd.

:)

funniest real story I ever read in a newspaper

4WD or AWD is the way. I used to have a RWD and it would step out all the time in the rain. Now I have a AWD and its far better. When I give it shit in the wet it acts more like a FWD than a RWD, front sledges in corners, but it never brakes traction :banana:

[TOTO]

I bought a new Hyosung GT250R a month ago and love it. Over 2000k ridden so tyres worn in. Today I went riding in the rain deliberately to gain experience. I got a little loose in the rear at a roundabout when I decided the muppet giving way to me might actually not have seen me at all. Basically I sort of stood it up and braked - a little aggressively it turns out. The rear locked and slid out alarmingly but recovered as soon as I released the pedal. Braking was completely ineffective really although I didn't end up on the ground and evidently the muppet did see me as I would have hit him otherwise.

Today I was reading this thead (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=64495) and now I'm wondering if I should be worried about the stock tyres on Hyosung? So far they haven't let me down but I have no idea how their performance compares with mainstream tyre brands.

Any and all advice welcome.

Update and Summary

It appears that the majority of Hyosung GT250R owners are very happy with their stock Shinko tyres. If you're an aggressive rider and like to push it then you will see benefits in switching to better tyres (such as Pirelli Sport Demons) but for most riders this is probably unnecessary and money wasted.

The biggest tip is to get out and practise in a range of conditions. Get a feel for how your bike and tyres perform and ride within those limits. White paint and manhole covers are slippery no matter which tyres you have on. First rain after a dry spell is particularly bad on all surfaces. Be smooth on the throttle and brakes especially at intersections. If you do lock up, keep you head up, release the brake and look where you want to go.

Lastly, if you're worried about riding in the wet then the best thing you can do is more riding in the wet. Take it easy out there :)


good summary.

+1

[ital916]

This has been an interesting thread to read...there has been a lot of mixed opinions on the shinkos. Haha try riding on a 110 vrubber on the rear, they're a good tyre but i still slide a bit in the wet aye, I keep it safe and ride like a snail in the wet. Leave the moto gp for the dry. :laugh:

[Iain]

Speaking with the mechanic I take my bike too....(Hyosung GT250R), the bungs are standard. They bolt into the frame. Would only entail a small barely noticable cut to the fairing on either side for the bung to be able to be positioned correctly, as there are already bolt holes drilled in the frame...
..
I will be getting them done on my bike shortly. If you are interested I will post pics of the install and prices for you...:)


Also talking with a friend and fellow biker from Aus, who has a GT650R, and who races it...ON SHINKO Race tyres, he says also he has no dramas with the Shinko Tyres. Very reliable, he even puts them on his wife's bike. So either he don't care about his wife or he trusts the tyres.
Me thinks he trusts the tyres somehow....:)
Hey DingoZ

How did you get on installing crash knobs on your GT250R?

[Dodger]

I'll add my 2c
After 16000km's I replaced the rear tire on my Hyosung GT250.

In those 16000km's I had no real issues with the stock Shinko's except in the wet where they felt like ice (esp the rear).

[mowgli]

... and from the times I have had a rear wheel lock on my 2 210kg bikes ....

Wow! I didn't think bikes that big existed :bleh: