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Kevmo7
11th January 2008, 13:33
Video of me and dan doing 12 o clocks :Punk:

We both been stuntin our 600's for just 3 months!!! haha

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im sorry if we split your wig

bungbung
11th January 2008, 14:04
Dude,

You've got your name and plates showing...
Quick re-edit in order

boostin
11th January 2008, 14:31
Not far for the cops to haul you to the court house...haha just winding you up...

Good shit and nice stunts

Kevmo7
11th January 2008, 14:32
ahh i cant be bothered, ill take my chances, they have never given us any greif in the past, and weve been doing stunts on main roads with the number plates shown and all sorts, i dont think it will be a problem

xgnr
11th January 2008, 20:36
Do this on private roads

and when ya fall off... get mum to put on a sticking plaster... dont waste my fukin taxes on patching you up

Bikernereid
11th January 2008, 20:54
Not that I would ever condone hooning behaviour, honest guvnor


Video of me and dan doing 12 o clocks :Punk:

We both been stuntin our 600's for just 3 months!!! haha



im sorry if we split your wig

Nagash
11th January 2008, 21:12
Gutted about dropping the thing,

Other than that nice stunts :msn-wink:

xgnr
11th January 2008, 21:30
ha ha

fantastic... just watched the whole thing :headbang:

duh... come and arrest me... :Police:

erik
11th January 2008, 23:01
Wish I could wheelie like that. :niceone:

saul
12th January 2008, 07:10
Good effort guys. :niceone:

Looking very controled errrrrrrrrrrrrrrr apart from the last we bit.

Maha
12th January 2008, 07:19
3/10....average stuff really...and as for that prick in the car, go and stripe up ya own street ya hero, hate cunce like that, got them around here, leave their wank stains on the road and fuck off.

Kevmo7
12th January 2008, 16:03
can you do this average stuff?

Chrislost
12th January 2008, 17:27
3/10....average stuff really...and as for that prick in the car, go and stripe up ya own street ya hero, hate cunce like that, got them around here, leave their wank stains on the road and fuck off.

tis funny how you can see all the neighbours coming out shouting abuse...

oh wait, thats just some cunts on the net standing on their soap boxes preaching.

i bet that you are incapable of wanking, let alone leaving a stain anywhere you cockless POS

Bikernereid
12th January 2008, 18:09
Now play nicely boyz!! Just cos some people can't stunt doesn't mean they are any less of a man than the rest of you!! Green is not a four letter word!!

Maybe you should take him out and see what you all have got!!


tis funny how you can see all the neighbours coming out shouting abuse...

oh wait, thats just some cunts on the net standing on their soap boxes preaching.

i bet that you are incapable of wanking, let alone leaving a stain anywhere you cockless POS

Katman
12th January 2008, 18:19
3/10....average stuff really...and as for that prick in the car, go and stripe up ya own street ya hero, hate cunce like that, got them around here, leave their wank stains on the road and fuck off.

I think you're being a tad generous. I only saw a bunch of fucking knobs.

R6_kid
12th January 2008, 18:42
xgnr & katman. Go have a fucking cry.

We have people looking out so that if cars come the guys don't wheelie - stops anyone other than themselves getting hurt.

They are practicing to do it for shows, and unless you can front up with a place for them do to this off road then quit your preaching.

It takes a lot of practice to get to where these guys are at, and if you had any idea how much skill and self belief it takes to actually 12 o'clock a bike and not drop it then you wouldn't be running your mouth like the conservative bastards you are. Go and vote for Helen.

Maha - sure it's average by what some people are doing, but you have to start somewhere.

Trust me guys, if you can find an area of flat ashphalt that is long enough for them to practice on and not be in a 'public' area, or on the road, they'll be more than happy to move their antics there - without the BS in the cars.

Katman
12th January 2008, 19:05
xgnr & katman. Go have a fucking cry.

We have people looking out so that if cars come the guys don't wheelie - stops anyone other than themselves getting hurt.

They are practicing to do it for shows, and unless you can front up with a place for them do to this off road then quit your preaching.

It takes a lot of practice to get to where these guys are at, and if you had any idea how much skill and self belief it takes to actually 12 o'clock a bike and not drop it then you wouldn't be running your mouth like the conservative bastards you are. Go and vote for Helen.

Maha - sure it's average by what some people are doing, but you have to start somewhere.

Trust me guys, if you can find an area of flat ashphalt that is long enough for them to practice on and not be in a 'public' area, or on the road, they'll be more than happy to move their antics there - without the BS in the cars.

Yeah? Still looks like a bunch of knobs to me. Especially the one who does the excited little dance over the tyre marks.

Mom
12th January 2008, 19:35
12 o'clock wheelies are very impressive indeed! Though it is said they are neither big, nor clever. R6 kid, I agree there is not too many places that you can practise this stuff, without risk of plod.

As far as the car is concerned......I was not impressed, any fool can line lock up and burn rubber. Nothing to get all wet about at all.

I dont want to see it, unless at the drags tyre warming. I certainly dont want to hear it at night when I am attempting to sleep. And I sure do not want to see it on a biker forum!

cowboyz
12th January 2008, 19:53
I fast forwarded through the car. Boring.

Bikes are a minter. Doesnt look like a real bad choice of road to stunt on. Sure it is illegal in all but so is high speed runs through the backroad twisties. Its all about having fun without upsetting anyone else and from what I can see, that is exactly what these guys are doing. The 12o clock is ALOT harder than it looks and it doesnt look easy. Pity about the drop at the end but shit happens.

dangerous
12th January 2008, 20:02
Especially the one who does the excited little dance over the tyre marks.
I know... LOL like hes about to shoot his load, sad really... its a fucking Honda


i bet that you are incapable of wanking, let alone leaving a stain anywhere you cockless POS
now you are not a very nice person are you :angry:



3/10....average stuff really...and as for that prick in the car, go and stripe up ya own street ya hero, hate cunce like that, got them around here, leave their wank stains on the road and fuck off.
Yip... as far as the bike goes, it aint doing no real harm and isnt afecting anyones life (till it goes wrong)
however the car is bullshit god what front wheel drive cant do that but more impportantly... ya just devalued and grefitied that public propity... how about I come around and do that on something you own... see how you like it.


can you do this average stuff?
mate... try it with 83hp and 1/4 ton, then Ill cheer ya on


xgnr & katman. Go have a fucking cry.
Pull ya head in... theres pleanty of places they can go thats out of harms way, just costs thats all... but beter it costs them than costing Jo Public.


Green for maha... red for chris

99TLS
12th January 2008, 20:21
good stuff, shame about the JIGGA BOO music, whats with the 10 yr old was that the first burnout hes seen :dodge:

Kevmo7
12th January 2008, 21:23
bro if you were his age you would be pretty excited over a burnout aswell


This is the stunt forum, if you old timers cant handle that a few youth do some wheelies and a few burnouts, why come and look at it, then go talkin a whole load of shit about how bad it is.

Just go put your bikes in the cubid and give up, cause a lil 17 year old whos only had a 600 for 3 months can 12 o clock and split ya wig...

bunch of poindexters :oi-grr:

DEATH_INC.
12th January 2008, 21:32
I think you're being a tad generous. I only saw a bunch of fucking knobs.
Geezus, it's the fun police again.
All I see is a bunch of guys having some harmless fun on an empty road for chrissake....
Good skills guys.

xgnr
12th January 2008, 22:42
Cool

I got a red rep for being the "fun police". Yeah and I really spoiled an arseholes day that parked in a disabled park at Mission Bay today. I wear it as a badge of pride.:niceone:

Mum might think I am growing up (finally)

Wear some decent gear and do it off the public roads. Have fun for sure... but don't do it at the expense of others.

Chrislost
13th January 2008, 00:14
Cool

I got a red rep for being the "fun police". Yeah and I really spoiled an arseholes day that parked in a disabled park at Mission Bay today. I wear it as a badge of pride.:niceone:



god dam you need to get a life!i challenge you to video a entire ride that you go on, then if you make 1 - 5 mistakes go eat your words... 6 - 10 mistakes and you can deepthroat them.

and if theres you breaking any speed limits well geeezes...
:bleh:

saul
13th January 2008, 05:44
3/10....average stuff really...and as for that prick in the car, go and stripe up ya own street ya hero, hate cunce like that, got them around here, leave their wank stains on the road and fuck off.


I think you're being a tad generous. I only saw a bunch of fucking knobs.

Average I don't think so. Takes a fair bit of courage to get the bike that high.:2thumbsup

Why not encourage the young fellas to find a better place instead of being so grumpy :girlfight:

dangerous
13th January 2008, 09:04
Average I don't think so. Takes a fair bit of courage to get the bike that high.:2thumbsup

Why not encourage the young fellas to find a better place instead of being so grumpy :girlfight:

Or youth and stupidity... in my case its stupidity :bleh:

The local track here is rentable $50 a 1/2 day, surely the same is availble up there.

R6_kid
13th January 2008, 09:30
Or youth and stupidity... in my case its stupidity :bleh:

The local track here is rentable $50 a 1/2 day, surely the same is availble up there.

What kind of track? We could go to Mt Wellington Go-Kart/bucket track - but they won't allow it.

I saw a concrete pad that could be of use out at ardmore airfield, but it's owned by a road safety education group, so i wouldn't count our chances, and its a good 50min+ drive out.

We are actively looking for a place to go, but the North Shore has no motorsport parks at all, not even a MX track.

R6_kid
13th January 2008, 09:41
That's quite possibly the reason why they would allow it as in a sense it would be promoting road safety

I did have that thought myself, might ask them and see what they say.

onearmedbandit
13th January 2008, 09:42
What kind of track?

Ruapuna.



.

Bikernereid
13th January 2008, 09:51
Just make sure to highlight the fact that if you are doing your shit off the roads it is a saftey plus for those on the roads and I am sure that they will be ok. Back home anything that lets peeps like you do thier shit without pissing off the old farts is always supported!! And I am an old fart!!

I think that what you are trying to do should be commended, it sure beats the shit out of getting pissed, stoned and just being a mong infront of a play station like so many morons do. Perfecting a skill like you guys are doing rocks!! (Well ok, not the prat in the car.)


I did have that thought myself, might ask them and see what they say.

R6_kid
13th January 2008, 10:25
Just make sure to highlight the fact that if you are doing your shit off the roads it is a saftey plus for those on the roads and I am sure that they will be ok. Back home anything that lets peeps like you do thier shit without pissing off the old farts is always supported!! And I am an old fart!!

I think that what you are trying to do should be commended, it sure beats the shit out of getting pissed, stoned and just being a mong infront of a play station like so many morons do. Perfecting a skill like you guys are doing rocks!! (Well ok, not the prat in the car.)

Cheers luv, good to see some can see the merit it in it.

Bikernereid
13th January 2008, 10:47
Just saying what I think!!


Cheers luv, good to see some can see the merit it in it.

bikerboy011
13th January 2008, 11:55
cool stunting apart from the wee bit at the end gutted mate. I tryed wheeling my bike its kinda hard to keep the front up lol

bikerboy011
13th January 2008, 12:00
May be you should try practice stuntin at puke race track am sure they do organise some thing like that.

Katman
13th January 2008, 12:36
In the context of that video, I fail to see any significant difference between the guys on the motorbikes and the 'boy racers' in their cars (to coin the phrase so commonly used by the pissed off public). If motorcyclists continue to behave like this on public roads it will not be long before the general public look upon all motorcyclists in the same manner that they now appear to view all young car enthusiasts. I refuse to sit by and allow Motorcycling to be reduced to that level.

Kevmo7
13th January 2008, 12:47
In the context of that video, I fail to see any significant difference between the guys on the motorbikes and the 'boy racers' in their cars (to coin the phrase so commonly used by the pissed off public). If motorcyclists continue to behave like this on public roads it will not be long before the general public look upon all motorcyclists in the same manner that they now appear to view all young car enthusiasts. I refuse to sit by and allow Motorcycling to be reduced to that level.

Are you sponsored by anybody?? do you understand why people sponsor riders?? cause they entertain people and make them want to buy there products, they wouldnt sponsor people if it made them HATE the products

how come i got Cycletreads, ESD MFG and Demon Energy behind me?? huh?? weird isnt it...

Public Must not hate us then...

Morcs
13th January 2008, 14:13
Just remember boys, Wheelies are not big nor clever.

:D

Good shit, keep up the good work. Id be wishing to be 5% as good.

R6_kid
13th January 2008, 14:18
In the context of that video, I fail to see any significant difference between the guys on the motorbikes and the 'boy racers' in their cars (to coin the phrase so commonly used by the pissed off public). If motorcyclists continue to behave like this on public roads it will not be long before the general public look upon all motorcyclists in the same manner that they now appear to view all young car enthusiasts. I refuse to sit by and allow Motorcycling to be reduced to that level.

Funny how they dont class 40+yr old man with V8's who continually break the speed limit boy racers, even if they do do the odd burnout or drag race other people.

No one has complained about it, other than yourself, and they dont practice directly in the public eye, this is and out of the way place where hardly any cars go, and when they do come the guys are courteous to them. Get over yourself and your bullshit, overextended view that biking as we know it is soon to be extinct - at the express fault of those who do wheelies.

For your information, these guys get paid upward of $1500 to put on a day's worth of displays... when was the last time you made that much money in a day?

Chrislost
13th January 2008, 16:32
it was the day that they got taken down a dogey back street off k road...


and yeah pukekohe (thats a track in auckland, just cos you southerners are stupid) is going to let people do 20km/h wheelies ont eh back straight...

think about it, andrew stroud doing 260, wheelie at 20.....

onearmedbandit
13th January 2008, 17:22
Tuesdays and Fridays the track can almost be empty down here, so they wouldn't give two fucks. I was just answering a question anyway.

dipshit
13th January 2008, 18:55
Are you sponsored by anybody?? do you understand why people sponsor riders?? cause they entertain people and make them want to buy there products, they wouldnt sponsor people if it made them HATE the products


So? Drifting gets plenty of sponsorship but they are still just a bunch of wankers, yes?

325rocket
13th January 2008, 19:07
Do this on private roads

and when ya fall off... get mum to put on a sticking plaster... dont waste my fukin taxes on patching you up

its all good, i pay a shit load of tax and your more then welcome to use mine to patch yourself up.

dipshit
13th January 2008, 19:10
shame about the JIGGA BOO music

But that's all part of the kiddies trying to copy American trends they see on youtube. Next week they will probably all be wearing red bandannas instead of helmets to look cool like their American heroes.

kneescraper
13th January 2008, 20:04
how come i got Cycletreads, ESD MFG and Demon Energy behind me?? huh?? weird isnt it...


They gotta have some class clown for their companys, dont they?

Just joking, I think minus the retards in the car part its cool.....gotta have respect for a 17 year old riding like that.

Get rid of the dick in the Honda and the little kid doing a rain dance and I think you guys will go far.

About doing it on the streets, put all that negative energy into getting something under way, get the big companys support and get THEM to build a patch.....put things in the public eye in a positive way and you will be surprised at how many companys want to jump on the band wagon.

Companys -
Cycletreads
V
Red Bull
Coke
NZ Streetfighters
etc etc etc, theirs tones of motorcycle or extreme sport related companys out there...just go to X Air and have alook at the advertising there.

Mr Skid
13th January 2008, 20:27
if you had any idea how much skill and self belief it takes to actually 12 o'clock a bike and not drop itI'm sure the left crank cover was gushing skill and self belief all over the road after the last go. :hug:

Kevmo7
13th January 2008, 23:33
I'm sure the left crank cover was gushing skill and self belief all over the road after the last go. :hug:

nah it didnt, just broke the fairin in a few places and broke da left mirror and the left foot peg, pretty good considering he dosent have a cage :laugh:

R6_kid
14th January 2008, 07:59
But that's all part of the kiddies trying to copy American trends they see on youtube. Next week they will probably all be wearing red bandannas instead of helmets to look cool like their American heroes.

is that not why you listened to the beatles in the 60's or michael jackson in the 80's and 90's? Or were you more of a Wham/George Michael Fan... you do come across as a homo, especially in your profile pic.

Kevmo7
14th January 2008, 08:30
the bullshit thing is, i try very hard to get people into stunt riding, teachin people how to wheelie and stoppie and all sorts, but whats the point if so many tossers are just gonna abuse the teacher ya know??

I get taught by Jase, who is a million times better than all of you, then i teach other people, like my friend Todd, Dan and Chris (when his bike isnt broken)

but wots the point if you poindexters are just gonna hassel them??

Bikernereid
14th January 2008, 08:51
At the end of the day you guys should do what makes you happy, if others have a problem then it is theirs to deal with. Remember those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind !!

As long as you are perfecting a skill that you enjoy and can share with others who like watching that is the main thing. People will always disagree on what is worth watching etc. At the end of the day everyone has to start somewhere and I am sure 'hooning motorbikers' got a bad rep when they first started perfecting the art of racing bikes. Just keep going and don't let the buggers get you down!!

As for sponsorship I know that many people don't like the tobacco industry but they have loads of cash that they find hard to give for sponsorship because of the image they have!! I would suggest that anyone looking for some cash might want to start looking at these guys!


the bullshit thing is, i try very hard to get people into stunt riding, teachin people how to wheelie and stoppie and all sorts, but whats the point if so many tossers are just gonna abuse the teacher ya know??

I get taught by Jase, who is a million times better than all of you, then i teach other people, like my friend Todd, Dan and Chris (when his bike isnt broken)

but wots the point if you poindexters are just gonna hassel them??

Mr Skid
14th January 2008, 09:45
whats the point if so many tossers are just gonna abuse the teacher ya know??I think this site needs more love. :love: :banana:

owner
14th January 2008, 11:44
KATMAN, GET OUT OF THE STUNT FORUM! you know you dont belong here, Heres a thought we dont give a fuck what you think, Bad for the sport I dont give a fuck, Clutch it up any where you can bitches


In the context of that video, I fail to see any significant difference between the guys on the motorbikes and the 'boy racers' in their cars (to coin the phrase so commonly used by the pissed off public). If motorcyclists continue to behave like this on public roads it will not be long before the general public look upon all motorcyclists in the same manner that they now appear to view all young car enthusiasts. I refuse to sit by and allow Motorcycling to be reduced to that level.

Kevmo you did it bro bp and 12 to boot, uping the level motorcycling in this country.
again.

bp on that f4 looks(dont know)looks so much lower than ours have you ridin it?
Have you got some sort of 12 bar or just scraping the exhaust?
Have you seen the new full throttle clutch cable hand brake's?
I will find BP one day, it is said..... it must be done

Racer X
14th January 2008, 16:08
The F4i BP is definitely lower than the RR - makes normal wheelies easier but 12's a bit harder (well that's my excuse) :cool:

R6_kid
14th January 2008, 17:22
The F4i BP is definitely lower than the RR - makes normal wheelies easier but 12's a bit harder (well that's my excuse) :cool:

HTFU... it's grolsch time.

Chrislost
14th January 2008, 18:33
So? Drifting gets plenty of sponsorship but they are still just a bunch of wankers, yes?

lol!
you have pilot sports on a SV...
muppet

kevmos tyres eat yours for dinner... and he got them FREE

(edit)oh yeah, i just noticed his chicken strips are smaller too...

HASHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Chrislost
14th January 2008, 18:43
HTFU... it's grolsch time.

do you think you could 12 that fricken beast you had last night?

R6_kid
14th January 2008, 19:04
do you think you could 12 that fricken beast you had last night?

if i ever get my own, or you get one, then i dont see why not!

dipshit
14th January 2008, 19:10
is that not why you listened to the beatles in the 60's or michael jackson in the 80's and 90's?

There's a difference between listening to Michael Jackson's music to dressing like him and putting premature willies in your mouth.

sAsLEX
14th January 2008, 19:16
In the context of that video, I fail to see any significant difference between the guys on the motorbikes and the 'boy racers' in their cars

Well I can.

The car is damaging the road. The bikes are not.

dipshit
14th January 2008, 19:24
the bullshit thing is, i try very hard to get people into stunt riding, teachin people how to wheelie and stoppie and all sorts,


Why? Do we really what the next generation of bike riders to be inspired by the sort of shit? Just learning to ride safely and responsibly is a enough of a challenge. A bunch of kiddies riding like this is only going to make motorcycling more dangerous....

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dipshit
14th January 2008, 19:32
lol!
you have pilot sports on a SV...
muppet

kevmos tyres eat yours for dinner... and he got them FREE

(edit)oh yeah, i just noticed his chicken strips are smaller too...

HASHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Umm... pilot sports are original on SV's

Anyways, why do such things matter to some of you people.? Is everything some kind of macho pissing match?

cowboyz
14th January 2008, 20:21
Why? Do we really what the next generation of bike riders to be inspired by the sort of shit? Just learning to ride safely and responsibly is a enough of a challenge. A bunch of kiddies riding like this is only going to make motorcycling more dangerous....



Young guys tend to want to drop their pants alot granted.

But can you seriously not see the difference between stunting on a clear empty piece of road to stunting on a motorway with other traffic around?

Chrislost
14th January 2008, 20:37
Umm... pilot sports are original on SV's

Anyways, why do such things matter to some of you people.? Is everything some kind of macho pissing match?

exactly,
get the fook out of the stunting forum and go winge about somthign that "matters to you"

EJK
14th January 2008, 20:49
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Btw Nice wheelies Kevmo and Dan lol just take care ey? ;)

dipshit
14th January 2008, 20:54
But can you seriously not see the difference between stunting on a clear empty piece of road to stunting on a motorway with other traffic around?


No, I see very little difference between these two videos the kids (or be it big kids) made of themselves on public roads. Wow, one had less traffic.

If lots of riders inspire to this sort of thing, do you seriously think some won't want to show off in front of an audience once they think they have mastered the "skill"?

R6_kid
14th January 2008, 21:00
No, I see very little difference between these two videos the kids (or be it big kids) made of themselves on public roads. Wow, one had less traffic.

If lots of riders inspire to this sort of thing, do you seriously think some won't want to show off in front of an audience once they think they have mastered the "skill"?


One is at high speed, one is at 30kmph...
One road has traffic at 70mph, one has very little or no traffic and the riders are courteous to other road users when they appear.
One shows some guys explicitly showing off on the motorway, the other shows two guys practicing their sport so they can perform at sanctioned events.

I don't deny that some won't show off in front of others... isnt that what you see at air shows... pilots showing off their skills. The only difference is dan and kevmo aren't currently practicing in a legal environment, but it's still the safest place they've found yet.

dipshit
14th January 2008, 21:01
exactly,
get the fook out of the stunting forum and go winge about somthign that "matters to you"

If you are riding like a wanker on public streets, and making all motorcyclists look like irresponsible dickheds in the eyes of the public and the law... then it matters to me.

If you are doing this in specially arranged closed areas and events, then fine, I could not care less.

There is a big difference.

EJK
14th January 2008, 21:02
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sAsLEX
14th January 2008, 21:06
the other shows two guys practicing their sport so they can perform at sanctioned events.



It also shows them associating with knuckle dragging mouth breathers tearing up the road in under powered front wheel drives thinking they are cool, these people are well hated by the majority of the public/media.


What the bikers were doing, sounds responsible, though often it is the hangers-on that give a bad name as they damage property leave trash etc.......


If you want to keep using the spot don't let them do that shit in the cars.

R6_kid
14th January 2008, 21:09
I have mentioned that to them before... i.e wheelies and stoppies only.

dipshit
14th January 2008, 21:11
One is at high speed, one is at 30kmph...
One road has traffic at 70mph, one has very little or no traffic

And they are always going to be that careful?

Turn one corner and open the throttle a wee bit more.... and hey presto!

And it's not just them... it's the trend that grows and every second new motorcyclist thinks that is some kind of benchmark to aim for.

I thought we were trying to encourage motorcyclists ride more carefully and sensibly to try reduce our high injury levels... not the opposite.???

R6_kid
14th January 2008, 21:13
If you are riding like a wanker on public streets, and making all motorcyclists look like irresponsible dickheds in the eyes of the public and the law... then it matters to me.


I thought it was a know me before you judge me thing. And too be honest, the number of people on bikes I see doing wheelies is about 2% of the total biker population.

If people in this country have lost the ability to see things as they are (i.e one or two guys showing off vs loads of people riding responsibly *lol*) then i'm getting the fuck out of here quick smart.

dipshit
14th January 2008, 21:15
It also shows them associating with knuckle dragging mouth breathers tearing up the road in under powered front wheel drives thinking they are cool, these people are well hated by the majority of the public/media.


Knuckle dragging mouth breathers ride bikes too you know.

R6_kid
14th January 2008, 21:15
And they are always going to be that careful?

Turn one corner and open the throttle a wee bit more.... and hey presto!

And it's not just them... it's the trend that grows and every second new motorcyclist thinks that is some kind of benchmark to aim for.

I thought we were trying to encourage motorcyclists ride more carefully and sensibly to try reduce our high injury levels... not the opposite.???

On the road yes, stunting is a choice they have made. It's just like skating, roller blading, kite surfing, snow boarding - it's an extreme sport. I can use a skateboard to commute if i so wish, or I can use it to do tricks etc. If i do my tricks and stunts in a place that pisses people off then i am a dick, if i do my best to take it out of their way then at least I'm trying to please the majority.

Kevmo7
14th January 2008, 21:20
Gareth you couldnt have sumed it up better

Bikernereid
14th January 2008, 21:24
I am going to defend skaters too. Why shouldn't they be allowed to practice tricks whereever they can find rails etc. At the end of the day if they are keeping themselves occupied perfecting thier art at least they aint out mugging old grannies!!


On the road yes, stunting is a choice they have made. It's just like skating, roller blading, kite surfing, snow boarding - it's an extreme sport. I can use a skateboard to commute if i so wish, or I can use it to do tricks etc. If i do my tricks and stunts in a place that pisses people off then i am a dick, if i do my best to take it out of their way then at least I'm trying to please the majority.

dipshit
14th January 2008, 21:30
I thought it was a know me before you judge me thing. And too be honest, the number of people on bikes I see doing wheelies is about 2% of the total biker population.


But even that 2%, or 5%, or 7% (if it becomes more trendy and a must do) has a greater impression and impact in the eyes of the public that witness such riding and will remember and associate with motorcycle riders. All the others riding more sensibly don't cause such a blip on the radar.

Kevmo7
14th January 2008, 21:33
But even that 2%, or 5%, or 7% (if it becomes more trendy and a must do) has a greater impression and impact in the eyes of the public that witness such riding and will remember and associate with motorcycle riders. All the others riding more sensibly don't cause such a blip on the radar.

were you the kid at skool that sat in the corner alone with big glasses on and read the dictionary?? i smell a poindexter lol

Bikernereid
14th January 2008, 21:39
Not all the geeks at school are dicks now!!!!!!! Some of us actuall have taste and like flash boys with cool toys- OWNER!:eek5:


were you the kid at skool that sat in the corner alone with big glasses on and read the dictionary?? i smell a poindexter lol

R6_kid
14th January 2008, 21:41
But even that 2%, or 5%, or 7% (if it becomes more trendy and a must do) has a greater impression and impact in the eyes of the public that witness such riding and will remember and associate with motorcycle riders. All the others riding more sensibly don't cause such a blip on the radar.

Actually I encourage Kev to ride responsibly to 'the spot' but then he is 17...

You're making a far greater deal out of this than actually exists.

I totally encourage safe riding on the road, and in the public eye, i dont condone being a fucking nanna and bagging on people who are doing what they enjoy in a place that is private as they can currently find.

Why not be proactive and try to find them a spot to do their thing out of the public eye?

sAsLEX
14th January 2008, 21:41
were you the kid at skool that sat in the corner alone with big glasses on and read the dictionary?? i smell a poindexter lol

Hmmm, Maybe you will work for someone like that one day....... whats the saying?


oh thats right...... Revenge is a dish best served cold.

Chrislost
14th January 2008, 21:42
And they are always going to be that careful?

Turn one corner and open the throttle a wee bit more.... and hey presto!

And it's not just them... it's the trend that grows and every second new motorcyclist thinks that is some kind of benchmark to aim for.

I thought we were trying to encourage motorcyclists ride more carefully and sensibly to try reduce our high injury levels... not the opposite.???

are you trying to call us retards that dont know throttle control?
you may just find that at one stage or another some of us even held/hold race licences/ holy fuck even raced!


or saying that other people will be silly enough to highside because a video was put up on the innernet with some wheelies on?

i think your mistaken.
must be the same thing that made you pick matching bike/gear.

dipshit
14th January 2008, 21:45
On the road yes, stunting is a choice they have made. It's just like skating, roller blading, kite surfing, snow boarding - it's an extreme sport.

Except that no extreme sport belongs to be played on public roads. If the law cottons on to it, they could come down so hard.

Then we would see a bunch of cry-baby wankers on KB pissing and moaning about being suppressed and the "stupid fucking cops" and on and on and on... dumb fucks they are.

cowboyz
14th January 2008, 21:46
And they are always going to be that careful?

Turn one corner and open the throttle a wee bit more.... and hey presto!

And it's not just them... it's the trend that grows and every second new motorcyclist thinks that is some kind of benchmark to aim for.

I thought we were trying to encourage motorcyclists ride more carefully and sensibly to try reduce our high injury levels... not the opposite.???
Above all else this is a stunt forum. Are you also going into the racing forum and telling people not to get their knee down or exceed 100km/hr on the track? What about the Street races or Hillclimbs? Are you suggesting that after the Boxing day racing seeing bikes running round a road circuit at 200km/hr that every biker aspires to doing 200km/hr in the middle of Wanganui? What about the dirt forum? You going over there to have a go at some guys Rooster tailing because it leaves a bad impression and the up and coming riders might want to repeat what they see on a public park?


One is at high speed, one is at 30kmph...
One road has traffic at 70mph, one has very little or no traffic and the riders are courteous to other road users when they appear.
One shows some guys explicitly showing off on the motorway, the other shows two guys practicing their sport so they can perform at sanctioned events.

I don't deny that some won't show off in front of others... isnt that what you see at air shows... pilots showing off their skills. The only difference is dan and kevmo aren't currently practicing in a legal environment, but it's still the safest place they've found yet.
You also left out they had spotters for traffic with the wheelie over the crest.

If you are riding like a wanker on public streets, and making all motorcyclists look like irresponsible dickheds in the eyes of the public and the law... then it matters to me.

If you are doing this in specially arranged closed areas and events, then fine, I could not care less.

There is a big difference.
Specifically arranging closed areas is alot of red tape due to those who believe that stunting is inherrintely bad and certain death. Much much easier to arrange a group of guys to watch out and find a seldom used backstreet that is wide enough for things to go a little haywire and smooth enough to stunt on.


But even that 2%, or 5%, or 7% (if it becomes more trendy and a must do) has a greater impression and impact in the eyes of the public that witness such riding and will remember and associate with motorcycle riders. All the others riding more sensibly don't cause such a blip on the radar.
So what did happen to personal responibility? Did he leave with common sense and lock the door on the way out? Stunting has always been cool. There are riders who simply think it is cool but dont want to do it for various reasons including not breaking their bikes/bones and there are riders who think its cool and want to give it a go. At the end of the day you cant afford to stunt a bike you cant afford to drop, same goes for racing.

And then there are those who simply dont like stunting and want everyone to ride round at the legal speed limit nice and safe. In their spare time they are known to surf stunt forums and talk shit about how bad stunting is.

nodrog
14th January 2008, 21:46
FFS you fuckers should just have a scrap, make sure you get it on video :niceone:

cowboyz
14th January 2008, 21:49
Except that no extreme sport belongs to be played on public roads. If the law cottons on to it, they could come down so hard.

Then we would see a bunch of cry-baby wankers on KB pissing and moaning about being suppressed and the "stupid fucking cops" and on and on and on... dumb fucks they are.

oh, and while I am at it.

What you are saying is that one shouldn't stunt on any public roads because if they do then the law will clamp down and they will not be able to stunt on public roads?
So if they dont stunt on public roads then the law will not clamp down on it and they will be allowed to stunt on public roads?

Do you read what you type or do you just make shit up as you go along?

owner
14th January 2008, 21:50
in the aid of educating fools watch ALL of this guys videos!
awsome progress in 6 months

http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=cjoec911

dipshit
14th January 2008, 21:53
are you trying to call us retards that dont know throttle control?

No, I was saying that is the only difference between those two videos.



you may just find that at one stage or another some of us even held/hold race licences/ holy fuck even raced!

So? And I haven't? You think that because I'm not impressed with your "amazing stuntting skills" that I can't ride a bike? You equate your circus tricks with road riding skills?

Chrislost
14th January 2008, 21:58
FFS you fuckers should just have a scrap, make sure you get it on video :niceone:

but hes like on the innernet and i cant hit him

Kevmo7
14th January 2008, 22:03
and hes a cosmoss robot searchin for the flux capisitor on his bike

hahahhahahahahahhahahahaha

Chrislost
14th January 2008, 22:04
No, I was saying that is the only difference between those two videos.



So? And I haven't? You think that because I'm not impressed with your "amazing stuntting skills" that I can't ride a bike? You equate your circus tricks with road riding skills?

not at all dipshit.
im merely stating that we are not the complete knobs that your trying to make everyone out to be

dipshit
14th January 2008, 22:22
[COLOR="Lime"]Above all else this is a stunt forum. Are you also going into the racing forum and telling people not to get their knee down or exceed 100km/hr on the track? What about the Street races or Hillclimbs? Are you suggesting that after the Boxing day racing seeing bikes running round a road circuit at 200km/hr that every biker aspires to doing 200km/hr in the middle of Wanganui? What about the dirt forum?


All of these are sporting events that are held at appropriate venues. Anybody that wishes to do these things can go along and join in with them.



Stunting has always been cool.

Stunting wasn't around much in the late 80's. It seems to be new trend that has caught on during the 90's. Believe it or not, people managed to enjoy motorcycling before stunting came along.




There are riders who simply think it is cool but dont want to do it for various reasons including not breaking their bikes/bones and there are riders who think its cool and want to give it a go.

And there are those that are not impressed and think it is wank.

Chrislost
14th January 2008, 22:23
And there are those that are not impressed and think it is wank.

wrong, theres only one.
its you, dipshit...

Kevmo7
14th January 2008, 22:31
why are you knockin stuntin so much?? my father races post classics, but i dont go around hasseling the shit outta him cause he races, and he dosent hassel the shit outta me for stuntin without any gear on.

There is a different type of motorcycling for each individual, i think you are forgetting that :bash:

dipshit
14th January 2008, 22:31
What you are saying is that one shouldn't stunt on any public roads because if they do then the law will clamp down and they will not be able to stunt on public roads?


Or they could clamp down on all motorcyclists, period!

Just like stricter penalties brought in to help clamp down on boy racers has affected us all. Instant disqualification of licences at the side of the road etc.... you can thank the boy racers.

Let's not let the wankers that happen to ride bikes do the same to us again.

Kevmo7
14th January 2008, 22:35
Or they could clamp down on all motorcyclists, period!

Just like stricter penalties brought in to help clamp down on boy racers has affected us all. Instant disqualification of licences at the side of the road etc.... you can thank the boy racers.

Let's not let the wankers that happen to ride bikes do the same to us again.

dude i bet you barely ride anyways, going around on your brand new SV with your big safe jacket on lol

<a href="http://s48.photobucket.com/albums/f237/Kevmo7/?action=view&current=IMG_0124.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f237/Kevmo7/IMG_0124.jpg" border="0" alt="Security Hate Me"></a>

Whoops did i do that?? hahahhahahahhaha

dipshit
14th January 2008, 22:38
why are you knockin stuntin so much??

Because you put your stupid little video up.

Oh no, I wasn't impressed with your "amazing skills"... shock horror! It must be such a blow to your ego!

sAsLEX
14th January 2008, 22:41
dude i bet you barely ride anyways, going around on your brand new SV with your big safe jacket on lol


What do you gain by not wearing safety gear?

Kevmo7
14th January 2008, 22:44
whoops i put a black line on the road, its the end of the world...

<a href="http://s48.photobucket.com/albums/f237/Kevmo7/?action=view&current=IMG_0211-1.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f237/Kevmo7/IMG_0211-1.jpg" border="0" alt="high chair burnout"></a>

Chrislost
14th January 2008, 22:47
What do you gain by not wearing safety gear?

ever tried to move quickly in leather?
leathers are designed to restrict some movements that arnt useful to motorcycling, however stunting you need that movement.
plus at 20km/h you land on yer fkn feet anyway! see the vid of the F4 coming down...


i bet you dont go around telling cyclists to wear leathers because they might get a scratch...
and their traveling faster then most of the stuff that these guys do.

Chrislost
14th January 2008, 23:09
Just lines...


i guess you can bag us for tagging now too huh dipshit

Kevmo7
14th January 2008, 23:11
oh yeah whoops i did that aswell hahahahah

DEATH_INC.
15th January 2008, 05:02
You equate your circus tricks with road riding skills?
Weeelll this stuff does help in everyday riding, it teaches a level of control the average rider will never have. The body remembers this stuff and it comes out in those 'oh shit' situations when the survival instinct takes over.
As for stunting being new....I don't think so. I've personally been doing wheelies and shit on the road since the early 80's, and if ya search the net you'll sure as shit find pics from the 70's and even earlier. It's far from new.
Closed areas? Try to find somewhere that'll let ya do it for a couple of hours one weekend without charging a fortune. And there's no real difference to crashing on a quiet street to crashing at a track, it still goes down as a bike crash in the stats.
Y'know, I really don't get it, motorcycles are all about rebellion, not fitting in, they always have been, yet these guys get bagged because they do something that's 'not safe'.....'not legal' etc. Motorcycling survived the gangs of the 70's, it'll survive a few stunters. More people still die boating, and more get injured playing rugby.
FFS go buy a white electric car would ya's....before someone thinks you don't conform.

Drew
15th January 2008, 05:56
Weeelll this stuff does help in everyday riding, it teaches a level of control the average rider will never have. The body remembers this stuff and it comes out in those 'oh shit' situations when the survival instinct takes over.
As for stunting being new....I don't think so. I've personally been doing wheelies and shit on the road since the early 80's, and if ya search the net you'll sure as shit find pics from the 70's and even earlier. It's far from new.
Closed areas? Try to find somewhere that'll let ya do it for a couple of hours one weekend without charging a fortune. And there's no real difference to crashing on a quiet street to crashing at a track, it still goes down as a bike crash in the stats.
Y'know, I really don't get it, motorcycles are all about rebellion, not fitting in, they always have been, yet these guys get bagged because they do something that's 'not safe'.....'not legal' etc. Motorcycling survived the gangs of the 70's, it'll survive a few stunters. More people still die boating, and more get injured playing rugby.
FFS go buy a white electric car would ya's....before someone thinks you don't conform.
Here here, the throttle control required comes in well handy when the rear steps out, stoppies teach us not to shit our pants when cars pull out.

This thread is more of a wank whinge by hypocryts than most.

Stop bitching and go learn wheelies, but remember they are not big or clever, and boozers are loosers.

sAsLEX
15th January 2008, 06:18
ever tried to move quickly in leather?


I love it when people assume what you have said rather than read it......



<img src=http://www.dainese.com/store/adm/uplImg/jacket-wave-v2_neck_front.jpg>


Most cyclists are not practising stuff that could easily end in a spill.

Kevmo7
15th January 2008, 09:58
i was actally thinkin of gettin something like that, looks pretty mean

dipshit
15th January 2008, 21:09
Weeelll this stuff does help in everyday riding, it teaches a level of control the average rider will never have.


So you lot do reckon you are shit hot and better than everyone else.




The body remembers this stuff and it comes out in those 'oh shit' situations when the survival instinct takes over.


Yet I have never seen or heard of anybody pulling a wheelie or a stoppie to get out of a tricky situation..??




As for stunting being new....I don't think so. I've personally been doing wheelies and shit on the road since the early 80's, and if ya search the net you'll sure as shit find pics from the 70's and even earlier. It's far from new.


"In the '90s some riders made performing stunts the primary focus of their riding. A wheelie or other stunt was not just something to do while riding, it became the main goal in riding."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stunters





And there's no real difference to crashing on a quiet street to crashing at a track, it still goes down as a bike crash in the stats.


Crashes at race tracks do not go down in road crash statistics. ACC sports injury claims, yes. Road statistics, no.




Y'know, I really don't get it, motorcycles are all about rebellion, not fitting in, they always have been,


And this is the very bullshit attitude that needs to change.

cowboyz
15th January 2008, 21:22
To quote from your own reference.

"Many motorcyclists simply equate stunters with squids, and disregard them. However, stunters are not merely squids who have some talent. The squid is typically ignorant, inexperienced, and most likely will only ride a motorcycle for a short period before giving up the sport out of fear, boredom or financial pressure.

Stunters are dedicated to their sport. They practice, they discuss the sport with other stunters, they modify their motorcycles specifically for stunting. Some even turn stunting into their profession.

It might be argued that stunters are born of squids, but that same argument can be made of many motorcycle subcultures.
"

I was going to explain the relevance of the above quote with your obsession for crowsing stunting forums with suggestions on how evil stunting is but I really cant be arsed. Somehow I think that you will never get it.

BTW. Heard an add on the radio today that said riding gat 100km/hr is like beekeeping with all the safety gear. The advert progressed with the idea that every km over that is like taking a piece of safety gear off till it got to 107km/hr is like beekeeping with no protective gear on. Just wondering if you wrote the advert cause I (for one) would take my chances riding at 107km/hr than extracting honey from a hive with no protective gear on.

cowboyz
15th January 2008, 21:22
Oh, and I just realised how apt your name is. Yes I know I am slow on the uptake......

nodrog
15th January 2008, 21:40
Yet I have never seen or heard of anybody pulling a wheelie or a stoppie to get out of a tricky situation..??

well here you go then, years ago a freight truck pulled straight out from behind a building infront of me in the middle of town, i grabbed a handful of front brake and managed to stop, the arse of the bike didnt and proceeded to smack me headfirst into the ground, now if stoppies had been invented back then and i had been praticing them, maybe that would have helped me control the situation better?

now while stunting on public property may not be the best idea in the world, at least these guys have made an effort to take it to a relatively quiet place, and like they have said they would do it privatly if it was available to them.

i have been guilty of far worse and more public displays when i was these guys age, the only difference is it wasnt posted on the internet for all to judge.

give the guys a break, im sure you were young once?

Kevmo7
15th January 2008, 21:46
"Rebadged as Streetbike Freestyle, the sport is becoming recognized by more mainstream venues"

"Stunters are dedicated to their sport. They practice, they discuss the sport with other stunters, they modify their motorcycles specifically for stunting. Some even turn stunting into their profession"

yeah and the sport is growing faster than ever, so why are you hasselin us, trying to make us suddenly stop, as you just read, were dedicated, were not just gonna give up cause you cant handle it that we might make you look like a bad boy for riding around in your big safe jacket on you brand new bike which never exceeds the speed limit :bleh:

dipshit
15th January 2008, 22:19
well here you go then, years ago a freight truck pulled straight out from behind a building infront of me in the middle of town, i grabbed a handful of front brake and managed to stop, the arse of the bike didnt and proceeded to smack me headfirst into the ground, now if stoppies had been invented back then and i had been praticing them, maybe that would have helped me control the situation better?


Correct use of the brakes and bike setup so the arse end doesn't get too light during rapid deceleration so you can stop faster and have better control.

Setting the rear static sag is key to how light or tailey the rear end gets under breaks. Using both front and rear breaks together can stabilise the bike more and stop you even faster than a sudden big handful of front break.

There should be no reason to be slamming your face on the road under breaks.

Drew
16th January 2008, 05:47
So you lot do reckon you are shit hot and better than everyone else.Yep, heaps better.




[/quote=dipshit;]Yet I have never seen or heard of anybody pulling a wheelie or a stoppie to get out of a tricky situation..?? [/quote]


The throttle control, brake feel, and familiarity with the bike moving are the skills that help under emergency situations.

But if you've made up your mind, I'm sure you're as two faced and closed minded as half the population of this site, and I'm just wasting time with this post.

ps, the first bit was a joke, dont reply to this if ya dont have a decent argument to make.

Patch
16th January 2008, 06:26
This dunedinite's name says it all - can't expect anything less really, what kind of retard chooses a name like that.


and Drew is right - waste of time and yes, we can ride better than you :finger:

dipshit
16th January 2008, 20:18
The throttle control, brake feel, and familiarity with the bike moving are the skills that help under emergency situations.


I agree. Not panicking or tensing up, but instinctively reacting in the correct way is a benefit from being familiar with the bike closer to the edge.

Trying to scrub some extra speed off if coming to hot into a corner, or dealing with a slide if hitting some unexpected gravel mid corner, or having to scrub off lots of speed very quickly are reactions a rider should be comfortable enough with to perform instinctively without too much panic.

This comes with experience, accelerated with track time, or even dirt riding.

To imply that only people that stunt have these skills is bullshit.

In fact I fail to see how this ( http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=cjoec911 ) kind of suff actually gives you worthwhile skills that are beneficial for situations in street riding anyways. Track time where you can push your limits beyond what you would normally do on the streets or dirt bike riding seem far more relevant to giving you the necessary skills.

If anything the kids that are into stunting probably have overconfidence as they think they are the best riders ever to walk the face of the earth and are nine feet tall and bullet proof. Such an attitude in motorcycling can be very dangerous.

dipshit
16th January 2008, 20:19
and yes, we can ride better than you :finger:

Define "better" ?

Kevmo7
16th January 2008, 21:20
I agree. Not panicking or tensing up, but instinctively reacting in the correct way is a benefit from being familiar with the bike closer to the edge.

Trying to scrub some extra speed off if coming to hot into a corner, or dealing with a slide if hitting some unexpected gravel mid corner, or having to scrub off lots of speed very quickly are reactions a rider should be comfortable enough with to perform instinctively without too much panic.

This comes with experience, accelerated with track time, or even dirt riding.

To imply that only people that stunt have these skills is bullshit.

In fact I fail to see how this ( http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=cjoec911 ) kind of suff actually gives you worthwhile skills that are beneficial for situations in street riding anyways. Track time where you can push your limits beyond what you would normally do on the streets or dirt bike riding seem far more relevant to giving you the necessary skills.

If anything the kids that are into stunting probably have over conference as they think they are the best riders ever to walk the face of the earth and are nine feet tall and bullet proof. Such an attitude in motorcycling can be very dangerous.


Let me tell you something, one day when i was coming home from work it was raining really hard, i had a bald rear tyre from doing heaps of burnouts the night before and was heading down to cycletreads to get another tyre for FREE.

so anyways i came into a corner and powered out just a little more than usual, and the rear end came flying out, now normal squid like you would panic and shut the throttle sharp and get thrown over the handle bars, but because i was used to having the rear sideways and without traction from the night before doing fishtail burnouts and everything, i just kept the power on, backin off just a tad and kept the bike sideways without crashin, i was quite proud of myself afterwards and so was the courier driving coming the other way :2thumbsup

Morcs
16th January 2008, 21:32
I did two 12'o clocks today. Both on 50k roads.

Oh the horror we are all going to die.

Drew
17th January 2008, 05:44
To imply that only people that stunt have these skills is bullshit.




Define "better" ?

Read my post again you friggin muppet! I said I was joking about being a better rider, and never implied anything at all. I said that stunting can teach riders better control, not better than racers, well experienced riders, or anyone else, but better than we had before.

Piss off and trawl some place else ya bell end.

DEATH_INC.
17th January 2008, 06:00
I agree. Not panicking or tensing up, but instinctively reacting in the correct way is a benefit from being familiar with the bike closer to the edge.

Trying to scrub some extra speed off if coming to hot into a corner, or dealing with a slide if hitting some unexpected gravel mid corner, or having to scrub off lots of speed very quickly are reactions a rider should be comfortable enough with to perform instinctively without too much panic.

This comes with experience, accelerated with track time, or even dirt riding.

To imply that only people that stunt have these skills is bullshit.

In fact I fail to see how this ( http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=cjoec911 ) kind of suff actually gives you worthwhile skills that are beneficial for situations in street riding anyways. Track time where you can push your limits beyond what you would normally do on the streets or dirt bike riding seem far more relevant to giving you the necessary skills.

If anything the kids that are into stunting probably have over conference as they think they are the best riders ever to walk the face of the earth and are nine feet tall and bullet proof. Such an attitude in motorcycling can be very dangerous.
You sir, are a fuckin idiot. What do you think stunting is? Is it not pushing the boundaries of balance, braking, traction and throttle control? I've learnt more road useful skills from clowning around than I've ever learnt on the track. Probably the only thing that taught me more was MX. Strangely enough though a lot of my MX training was pretty much stunting, stoppies, wheelies, sliding the front end, doing tricks off jumps etc. teaches you a lot about what the bike can and can't do.
And yeh, I'll take you on any day, name it. I'll ride through rush hour traffic with ya till one of us gets taken out, do obstacle courses, defensive driving courses....whatever you want.

owner
17th January 2008, 06:25
I wonder do you enjoy riding your bike? because we sure as shit do It sounds like youve lost your mojo you should buy a car dipshit




I agree. Not panicking or tensing up, but instinctively reacting in the correct way is a benefit from being familiar with the bike closer to the edge.

Trying to scrub some extra speed off if coming to hot into a corner, or dealing with a slide if hitting some unexpected gravel mid corner, or having to scrub off lots of speed very quickly are reactions a rider should be comfortable enough with to perform instinctively without too much panic.

This comes with experience, accelerated with track time, or even dirt riding.

To imply that only people that stunt have these skills is bullshit.

In fact I fail to see how this ( http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=cjoec911 ) kind of suff actually gives you worthwhile skills that are beneficial for situations in street riding anyways. Track time where you can push your limits beyond what you would normally do on the streets or dirt bike riding seem far more relevant to giving you the necessary skills.

If anything the kids that are into stunting probably have over conference as they think they are the best riders ever to walk the face of the earth and are nine feet tall and bullet proof. Such an attitude in motorcycling can be very dangerous.

Weaver
17th January 2008, 09:54
I wonder do you enjoy riding your bike? because we sure as shit do It sounds like youve lost your mojo you should buy a car dipshit

Dipshit's bike and car (assuming he has one) haven't left the garage in years. Hes making his posts from a room in his house with no windows, cause you know, its dangerous outside. Theres like, bears and shit

dipshit
17th January 2008, 10:19
I wonder do you enjoy riding your bike? because we sure as shit do It sounds like youve lost your mojo you should buy a car dipshit

I would honestly like to know why you think that? Is it because I place safety and staying in one piece a higher priority over "having fun"..???

Is this such a strange and bizarre concept to you, that you don't even consider me a motorcyclist... and that I couldn't possibly enjoy motorcycling?

If that is the case, then it is you that has some pretty fucked up ideas about motorcycling.

owner
17th January 2008, 14:15
Safety and staying in one peice higher priority than fun Very stange and very bizzare, Have you ever taken a risk? you should try it, its addictive, Your a motorcyclist alright, to each his own. I guess you enjoy riding your SV like you enjoy driving your honda accord. good for you
I have fucked up ideas about sportbiking yes It took me 7 hours to get from auckland to New Plymouth on friday didnt get out of first gear much? didnt get any tickets either, Learnt alot about staggered stance though
I would honestly like to know why you think that? Is it because I place safety and staying in one piece a higher priority over "having fun"..???

Is this such a strange and bizarre concept to you, that you don't even consider me a motorcyclist... and that I couldn't possibly enjoy motorcycling?

If that is the case, then it is you that has some pretty fucked up ideas about motorcycling.

Kevmo7
17th January 2008, 20:04
Safety and staying in one peice higher priority than fun Very stange and very bizzare, Have you ever taken a risk? you should try it, its addictive, Your a motorcyclist alright, to each his own. I guess you enjoy riding your SV like you enjoy driving your honda accord. good for you
I have fucked up ideas about sportbiking yes It took me 7 hours to get from auckland to New Plymouth on friday didnt get out of first gear much? didnt get any tickets either, Learnt alot about staggered stance though

you have to take risks in life to get the rewards, its torture to ride a motorbike normally at the speed limit, just no fun!!

haha yeah once it took me and chris a couple of hours to get from albany to silver dale, learned alot about side roads and long wheelies :msn-wink:

Bikernereid
17th January 2008, 20:21
I have had the joy of watching Death on a bike and he is SKILL!!


You sir, are a fuckin idiot. What do you think stunting is? Is it not pushing the boundaries of balance, braking, traction and throttle control? I've learnt more road useful skills from clowning around than I've ever learnt on the track. Probably the only thing that taught me more was MX. Strangely enough though a lot of my MX training was pretty much stunting, stoppies, wheelies, sliding the front end, doing tricks off jumps etc. teaches you a lot about what the bike can and can't do.
And yeh, I'll take you on any day, name it. I'll ride through rush hour traffic with ya till one of us gets taken out, do obstacle courses, defensive driving courses....whatever you want.

sAsLEX
17th January 2008, 20:40
I have had the joy of watching Death on a bike and he is SKILL!!

Its when he drops the huge stand up at the last second ,in a huge cloud of front tire smoke as the front had stopped spinning as it had been up there a while, and then backs it around the next bend that the skill really shows!

Bikernereid
17th January 2008, 20:52
And after spending almost 2 weeks on the back of this hoons bike I can tell you he is a bloody good rider and I never felt unsafe!! He even took me round Pukekohe for a test session so if that didn't put the shit up me then he obviously is doing something right! Skills can be transferable and we only learn and progress by pushing our boundaries and trying new things.


Safety and staying in one peice higher priority than fun Very stange and very bizzare, Have you ever taken a risk? you should try it, its addictive, Your a motorcyclist alright, to each his own. I guess you enjoy riding your SV like you enjoy driving your honda accord. good for you
I have fucked up ideas about sportbiking yes It took me 7 hours to get from auckland to New Plymouth on friday didnt get out of first gear much? didnt get any tickets either, Learnt alot about staggered stance though

EJK
17th January 2008, 21:20
I would honestly like to know why you think that? Is it because I place safety and staying in one piece a higher priority over "having fun"..???

Is this such a strange and bizarre concept to you, that you don't even consider me a motorcyclist... and that I couldn't possibly enjoy motorcycling?

If that is the case, then it is you that has some pretty fucked up ideas about motorcycling.

One thing for sure, Stunt people on KB don't like you. So before they do something worse, just go somewhere else...... I'm asking you nicely

owner
17th January 2008, 21:33
Guess we tryd a few new things on the way back aye babe:devil2: I love stuntriding but riding fast 2 up with a hot babe is unriviled(sp)

And after spending almost 2 weeks on the back of this hoons bike I can tell you he is a bloody good rider and I never felt unsafe!! He even took me round Pukekohe for a test session so if that didn't put the shit up me then he obviously is doing something right! Skills can be transferable and we only learn and progress by pushing our boundaries and trying new things.

Kevmo7
18th January 2008, 13:48
One thing for sure, Stunt people on KB don't like you. So before they do something worse, just go somewhere else...... I'm asking you nicely

+1 to that

Bikernereid
18th January 2008, 13:50
There really are some people on here who are just so bloody narrow-minded!! Live n let live and encourage someone who wants to better themselves or soemthing they are passionate about.


+1 to that

Drew
18th January 2008, 14:53
There really are some people on here who are just so bloody narrow-minded!! Live n let live and encourage someone who wants to better themselves or soemthing they are passionate about.



How do I nominate this chick "post whore"?

Dont get me wrong here, the point she is regurgitating is valid, but fuck does she love typing for the hell of it!

dipshit
18th January 2008, 16:03
you have to take risks in life to get the rewards, its torture to ride a motorbike normally at the speed limit, just no fun!!


Maybe it's you that doesn't enjoy motorcycling then. Is your bike just another one of your toys like your skateboard or PlayStation?

Me, I just love getting on my bike and riding... no matter what the speed is. Certainly wouldn't call it "torture". Any speed on a bike beats driving a car any day. I love the freedom of just going no place in particular for an ice cream... then throwing a leg back over and having the pleasure of riding home again. I love loading up a tent and sleeping bag and going exploring on my 4 days off from work. I love only having to spend $20 at the pump to fill it up.! I love just tinkering with and cleaning my bike when having a lazy day at home. I love the thought of hopefully many many years to come of enjoying a life of motorcycling.! :2thumbsup

Weaver
18th January 2008, 16:48
I love the dream of being able to wheelie as good as Kevmo one day

quallman1234
18th January 2008, 16:53
I love the dream of being able to wheelie as good as Kevmo one day

Tried em yet man?

Appently its quite the mission on the GT250R

Im slowly getting better at my wheelies. Although my KDX200 just lofts the front wheel!

Weaver
18th January 2008, 16:56
I've tried a few of them in my drive way. Haven't got the front wheel off the ground at all yet though.
Practise make perfect though

The Pastor
18th January 2008, 19:27
thats some nice stuff dude, I wish I could do that sorta stuff. my mc22 makes it hard to wheelie in anything but 1st but I reckon i'll get there.

The Pastor
18th January 2008, 19:37
I mean, damn you bikers spoling our image (dumb vain runts must ride harleys if they care so much about image, actually thats probably why they love chrome so much - so they can see their own reflection in it.)

Gosh man somone should call the cops on these tossers, how dare they have fun on a public road they are worse that child killers.

DEATH_INC.
19th January 2008, 05:26
I love the dream of being able to wheelie as good as Kevmo one day
I reckon, bloody young pricks......:weep:

Bikernereid
19th January 2008, 06:55
Hey I have been putting off saying what I really wanted to say but sod it. My bloke wants to get seriously into stunting which is his thing and I will supoport him 100% even though it really does nothing for me whatsoever. I personally would prefer it if he go into racing but different stroke for different folks.

I guess some could argue that stunting is safer than racing but others would then bitch that atleast racers keep it to the track etc etc. So what I want to say is that although I would prefer to see my bloke racing round Pukekohe I respect and understand that he wants to develop different kinds of skills but ones which can be useful for riding in general. If stunting helps to make him an even better rider I endorse what he is doing completely. He is an awesome rider but as with everyone there is always room for improvement.

So why can't people just leave the stunting guys alone or at least support them cos if what they are doing makes them better and safer riders (which in turn can only help to improve riders reps) then what is the problem?

And I have had only had 5 hours sleep in about 4 days so have to do something whith my time whilst body clock is still fucked up!!


How do I nominate this chick "post whore"?

Dont get me wrong here, the point she is regurgitating is valid, but fuck does she love typing for the hell of it!

Kevmo7
28th January 2008, 11:57
im sore now, just went to do a slow 12 o clock and the bike stalled and i went over the handle bars!!!

think ive torn something in my shoulder, but i should be alrite, was pretty crazy hahaha

got straight up, picked my bike up, and went a tried another 12 o clock straight away, the 2nd one went alot better tho :cool:

onearmedbandit
28th January 2008, 12:49
Haha, brilliant. Don't suppose you got it on vid though, otherwise you surely would've posted it right? Keep it up (literally).

arj127
28th January 2008, 15:26
can we see some vids of you doing something other than 12 o'clocks? not including boring burnouts

R6_kid
28th January 2008, 15:32
I believe the next step is doing combo's and circles once he had got slow 12's sorted out properly. And when he gets the brakes fixed it'll be stoppie time again.

arj127
28th January 2008, 15:39
good i'll look forward to that then. Stoppies are way cooler than wheelies in my opinion.

Sollyboy
28th January 2008, 16:00
I think you're being a tad generous. I only saw a bunch of fucking knobs.

Really ? cause I thought the bikes were awesome, fuckern good wheelies infact

White trash
2nd February 2008, 10:47
I have had the joy of watching Death on a bike and he is SKILL!!
Hmmmm, he's o'right. Not THAT flash though :D

bugjuice
2nd February 2008, 14:15
On the road yes, stunting is a choice they have made. It's just like skating, roller blading, kite surfing, snow boarding - it's an extreme sport. I can use a skateboard to commute if i so wish, or I can use it to do tricks etc. If i do my tricks and stunts in a place that pisses people off then i am a dick, if i do my best to take it out of their way then at least I'm trying to please the majority.
just goin back to this, just wanted to say; even the council has built skateboard parks with rails, halfpipes, stairs to jump etc etc to get them off the streets.. They should build a park for bikers and boy racers, if they want them off the streets, give them somewhere to go. Don't just tell people no, and offer nothing as an alternative. Just some big patch of concrete/tar out the back of an industrial estate away from everyone, and let them have fun. But I know that'd bring it's own issues like gang violence n stuff.

anyway, i went to go see the other night, and it really is the arse-end of nowhere near anyone who'd bother. Even some chick came out from an office who was working overtime, saying how she thought they were cool. A few cars pulled up and parked up (the bikes stopped as soon as cars came anywhere in sight) and they watched for 10 mins, then toodled off. Yes, it's still a public road, but there's virtually no public there.

good on ya guys, was fun to watch. I'll come again with the camera so I can have a play with pics for myself. And I had a lil go, but I'm nowhere near good enough as these guys. May be one day.

and for the record, I think everyone should get themselves out of their comfort zone and learn (even a small) wheelie and stoppies, and get the tyres breaking loose, cos then when something does happen, like hitting a bump under acceleration, or someone pulls out in front of you and you have to break hard, you'll handle things a damn sight better than if you were scared of every little thing. Bikes aren't scary, ignorance is.

my 2¢

been behind Death a few times when he's popped the front up, and just goes forever. Seen him take corners and just go forever, then the ol' puff of smoke as the front touches down. nice work there..
Bruce was almost the same too, he was damn good. And WT, been next to you, watching you do a stand up, thinking that I'm just cruising along side, and how the hell blah blah..
love wheelies. love corners. love getting my knee down. love going fast. love the feeling in the pit of my stomach when i've nailed the throttle and I'm still keeping it pinned. love riding.

madbikeboy
3rd February 2008, 21:11
I promised Georgie that I'd stay out of the politics of this site, but fuck it, stirring is fun.

Aside from the tosser in the Integra (cars are bad, okay), I thought the vid was fucking brilliant. I was surprised at the tirade that followed.

Now, I'm looking at the address bar up top - it reads:
"Kiwi Biker Forums > Competition riding > Stunt riding"

Holy shit, did Katman arrive by accident??? It's like porn. If you don't like it, don't go looking for it.

Now as for Kevmo and Dan - bless your cotton socks for choosing somewhere industrial. If only the little wankers driving their POS nissans would chose the same thing instead of using beach road as a race track. I'm sick of those little fuckers sliding (drifting?) their Nissans around the corner. And losing it at least 50% of the time. There are kids around here. Kevmo and Dan are on a deserted road - what's the issue?

I promised not to throw stones at KatMan any more. So I'm not going to make jokes about panty liners, or him needing some viagra so he can harden up. :niceone:

Hey, is it against the law to use my trusty 12 on the Nissan boys, I promise that I'll use birdshot...

Drew
4th February 2008, 14:29
Hey, is it against the law to use my trusty 12 on the Nissan boys, I promise that I'll use birdshot...


Bwahahahaha, your promises are worth nothing, the above post breaches TWO:Pokey:

Badger8
9th February 2008, 21:39
Hey, is it against the law to use my trusty 12 on the Nissan boys, I promise that I'll use birdshot...

Rocksalt is the way to go... Not that i would know anything about that :whistle: :innocent:

Brett
12th February 2008, 22:06
just goin back to this, just wanted to say; even the council has built skateboard parks with rails, halfpipes, stairs to jump etc etc to get them off the streets.. They should build a park for bikers and boy racers, if they want them off the streets, give them somewhere to go. Don't just tell people no, and offer nothing as an alternative. Just some big patch of concrete/tar out the back of an industrial estate away from everyone, and let them have fun. But I know that'd bring it's own issues like gang violence n stuff.

anyway, i went to go see the other night, and it really is the arse-end of nowhere near anyone who'd bother. Even some chick came out from an office who was working overtime, saying how she thought they were cool. A few cars pulled up and parked up (the bikes stopped as soon as cars came anywhere in sight) and they watched for 10 mins, then toodled off. Yes, it's still a public road, but there's virtually no public there.

good on ya guys, was fun to watch. I'll come again with the camera so I can have a play with pics for myself. And I had a lil go, but I'm nowhere near good enough as these guys. May be one day.

and for the record, I think everyone should get themselves out of their comfort zone and learn (even a small) wheelie and stoppies, and get the tyres breaking loose, cos then when something does happen, like hitting a bump under acceleration, or someone pulls out in front of you and you have to break hard, you'll handle things a damn sight better than if you were scared of every little thing. Bikes aren't scary, ignorance is.

my 2¢

been behind Death a few times when he's popped the front up, and just goes forever. Seen him take corners and just go forever, then the ol' puff of smoke as the front touches down. nice work there..
Bruce was almost the same too, he was damn good. And WT, been next to you, watching you do a stand up, thinking that I'm just cruising along side, and how the hell blah blah..
love wheelies. love corners. love getting my knee down. love going fast. love the feeling in the pit of my stomach when i've nailed the throttle and I'm still keeping it pinned. love riding.


WHAT HE SAID + 1

Kevmo. Flick me a PM of where you guys go, I would love to come watch and do some vids with the old handy cam!

EJK
12th February 2008, 22:59
Where do you guys mostly hang out? I want to see some real action lol

discotex
13th February 2008, 21:47
WHAT HE SAID + 1

Kevmo. Flick me a PM of where you guys go, I would love to come watch and do some vids with the old handy cam!

+1 as well. I can see plenty of value in learning the performance envelope of your bike. Kinda hard to find the right place to teach yourself tho eh.

Not sure if time will allow (struggling to get any non commuting riding in at the moment) but would love to check it out sometime.

DingoZ
15th February 2008, 03:15
and for the record, I think everyone should get themselves out of their comfort zone and learn (even a small) wheelie and stoppies, and get the tyres breaking loose, cos then when something does happen, like hitting a bump under acceleration, or someone pulls out in front of you and you have to break hard, you'll handle things a damn sight better than if you were scared of every little thing. Bikes aren't scary, ignorance is.



Nice, agree with you on the above.

Went and watched and filmed Drew Stunting a while back. Trusted him enough to stand in his path while he was doing stoppies. And stand there while he was doing wheelie's and highchairs right past me. And the only reason I stood there was because I had faith in his abilities.

Gunna learn how to do them myself at some stage, as they are another form of control, and more control skills riders have I think is for the better.

zeocen
18th February 2008, 17:54
3 day old thread revive!
Where do you guys mostly practice? I'm way too useless to even think about attempting stunts myself, but I sure do like watching them. Is there any way to come out and just park on the side and watch the game go by?

sosman
18th February 2008, 18:58
why? has Dipshit....got HARDCORE BIKER under his username?
farken awsome wheelies dudes
keep up the good work yeahboi
& yes Im an L-plate rider muhaha

cowboyz
18th February 2008, 19:15
Is it bad to appreciate a good wheelie or stunts and be coherrent at the same time?

Zuki Bandit
18th February 2008, 19:18
Fine up to 0.15 then :yawn::yawn::yawn:

cowboyz
18th February 2008, 19:51
rest my case

Kevmo7
18th February 2008, 20:00
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