View Full Version : How to feel out of place!
Chanak
12th January 2008, 00:37
So, I start riding to work (it's all good, except when the boss is following you down that really long and boring straight =P)...
Park the bike up, get off, and notice it doesn't really belong...
Harley, Harley, Harley, Harley, Harley, RG150E, Harley, Harley...
Smeltrons, go figure <_<
Bring on the slightly colder than really really hot days.... lots of parking space ;)
Edit: And a certain scotsman was right.... far too many cruisers around here
Mikkel
12th January 2008, 00:45
If they can't candle a RG150 tell them to fuck off!
Good to see a bit of diversity at any time!!!
MaxB
12th January 2008, 01:09
You have got to start somewhere. What do you think the hog riders started out on? Ride your own ride, don't care what others think.
Chrislost
12th January 2008, 01:29
just run them off the road on your superior bike, their harlies ffs! look closely, once you take the "bling caps" off their looking like a tractor,,,
Chanak
12th January 2008, 01:30
You have got to start somewhere. What do you think the hog riders started out on? Ride your own ride, don't care what others think.
Oh, I don't care what they think, I just found it amusing that on fine days, the bike parks were -full- (ie, all bar my spot ;)) with harleys.
It's more fun sticking out anyway ;)
Chanak
12th January 2008, 01:43
just run them off the road on your superior bike, their harlies ffs! look closely, once you take the "bling caps" off their looking like a tractor,,,
(stolen from a family member...)
Just ride past them as they drive home...
McJim
12th January 2008, 02:13
Must be nice having the only bike there that can mix it at Teretonga.
Chrislost
12th January 2008, 03:08
i saw a harley exaust today.
screaming eagleII or somthing...
it said for closed circuit use only.
i pissed myself laughing so bad that the rest of my day was bareable.
better watch out teratonga(i cant spell at drunk am!) the harley sporties are coming to get yer
skidMark
12th January 2008, 04:39
there have motorcycles in the south island?:jerry:
ital916
12th January 2008, 06:51
no worries mate, go for a company ride through some twisties, then it'll be rg150e...........
.....and lots of harleys in the distance behind you. :laugh: jokes
rainman
12th January 2008, 06:54
far too many cruisers around here
Bah! Nonsense. Not possible! :)
Jantar
12th January 2008, 07:15
....Park the bike up, get off, and notice it doesn't really belong...
Harley, Harley, Harley, Harley, Harley, RG150E, Harley, Harley...
I agree, the only bike that should be parked there is the Suzuki. So which Harley is yours? :cool:
Edit: Oh, yours IS the suzuki. That means its ALL the Harleys that don't belong.
gijoe1313
12th January 2008, 07:44
And the little crazy frog gets to cock a snoot at the crusiers! You never know, you may have planted the seed of doubt and by proving that there is life past tassles and leather saddlebags! :lol:
All good, ride what you want to ride and good on ya for doing it! :ride: :scooter:
The Pastor
12th January 2008, 07:48
I'd take a harley over an rg150 any day.
Big Dave
12th January 2008, 08:32
How many of you losers have actually ridden a modern Harley?
HenryDorsetCase
12th January 2008, 09:19
How many of you losers have actually ridden a modern Harley?
I'm 45 this year, its about time I did. Got any spare ones laying about your gaff?
Pixie
12th January 2008, 09:34
You have got to start somewhere. What do you think the hog riders started out on? Ride your own ride, don't care what others think.
The hog riders started out in cars,until they reached 50 and suffered MLC and wanted to project a badass image.:lol:
Big Dave
12th January 2008, 09:39
I'm 45 this year, its about time I did. Got any spare ones laying about your gaff?
Sure mate - I live at Auckland Motorcycles and Powersports and my name is Patrick.
I got tons I can lend you - with some conditions.
You *must* come for a vist.
huck farley
12th January 2008, 09:57
Well I'm in the clear on this thread this is my first post. Just goes to show what other people from the wider community think of your shiny Harley's. Not very much by the looks. And yes don't at all feel intimidated by the owners they are just like you. But they got landed with a HD. :msn-wink:
Headbanger
12th January 2008, 10:09
Why would any of you think anyone gives a flying shit what others "think" of their Harley.
Pathetic.
Heres what I think of other peoples bikes, Nothing, Enjoy your ride.
And I'm nothing like most of the tossers in this thread.
huck farley
12th January 2008, 10:21
How many of you losers have actually ridden a modern Harley?
What's modern about them Big Dave? They are still a piece of shiney shit like they were years ago. It took the Japs five minutes to stop that jack hammer problem shaking the fillings outa yer teeth. By rubber mounting the compressor. So nowadays Harley are copying the Jap cruisers for modern technology.
HD haven't learned much in 105 years re modern technology. But they have succeeded in brain washing the riders of them that they are far superior to the rest of the bikes on the planet!! :brick:
Lil_Byte
12th January 2008, 10:21
They all have 2 wheels and are fun to ride, so who really cares what we ride, just enjoy the ride :scooter:
Toaster
12th January 2008, 10:34
How many of you losers have actually ridden a modern Harley?
Exactly! Most would be boys on boys bikes.
Big Dave
12th January 2008, 10:53
What's modern about them Big Dave? They are still a piece of shiney shit like they were years ago. It took the Japs five minutes to stop that jack hammer problem shaking the fillings outa yer teeth. By rubber mounting the compressor. So nowadays Harley are copying the Jap cruisers for modern technology.
HD haven't learned much in 105 years re modern technology. But they have succeeded in brain washing the riders of them that they are far superior to the rest of the bikes on the planet!! :brick:
I could just rest my case, M'laird.
8,000km service intervals, self adjusting valves, carbon fibre belt drives, balanced engines, impressive handling (for a cruiser), superior finish, enviable re-sale, the motor-clothing - Much is understated and really well designed, the dealers,
I'll add more later.
Virago
12th January 2008, 11:42
They all have 2 wheels and are fun to ride, so who really cares what we ride, just enjoy the ride :scooter:
And for most of us, that is indeed the case.
Alas, however, for those few who seem consumed with hatred of diversity.
Those who haunt these types of threads, gleeful with the opportunity to put down another's ride of choice.
You will see them hovering in the Cruiser section, intent on finding the next chance to impress themselves with their witty put-downs.
There's no solution unfortunately - such people could only get a balanced outlook by getting a chip on their other shoulder.
Jantar
12th January 2008, 11:53
And - such people could only get a balanced outlook by getting a chip on their other shoulder.
Jesus NO!!!! One bad shoulder is enough, don't make me worse than I already am. :eek5:
Headbanger
12th January 2008, 12:13
Makes ya wonder what sort of world the anti-brigade would like, one where all bikes were the same?, Just to remove the choice of rides from other people?
If I don't like a specific bike, or manufacturer, I simply don't buy one....
To campaign against a brand would have to be the past time of someone with a few mental issues, or perhaps just an idiot with no money, and a crap life, desperately trying to knock others off some imagined high-horse in order to prop up there pathetic ego.
in other words, a knob end.
skidMark
12th January 2008, 12:32
How many of you losers have actually ridden a modern Harley?
why the hell would i waste my time..
it doesn't deserve my god like presence on it.
Jantar
12th January 2008, 12:42
To campaign against a brand would have to be the past time of someone with a few mental issues, ......
I don't think anyone would argue with that statement. However I don't believe I have seen anyone actually campaigning against any particular brand. Can you give an example?
oldrider
12th January 2008, 13:10
How many of you losers have actually ridden a modern Harley?
While I reject the "loser" assertion, I did have an opportunity to have ride on a Harley (model unknown, older bike though) over the break.
I was genuinely pleased (desperate even) to get off it!
That does not mean I am going to rubbish all Harleys!
This one was about 18yrs old but in good condition and well looked after.
During the ride I was thinking, there must be one hell of a difference between this and the "Fat Bob" that enthused Big Dave to name it pick of the years bikes!
I am now quite keen to pick up a chance of a demo sometime just to see if I can concur with Dave's findings on Fat Bob and modern Harleys.
I had ridden a full dresser touring Harley previously and recall really enjoying it!
Anyway if it's got two wheels and it is someones pride and joy, I am not going be judgemental about their bike! Viva la difference! :headbang: I say. Cheers John.
Headbanger
12th January 2008, 13:40
I don't think anyone would argue with that statement. However I don't believe I have seen anyone actually campaigning against any particular brand. Can you give an example?
the user name is a dead give-away.......
99TLS
12th January 2008, 13:40
You have got to start somewhere. What do you think the hog riders started out on?
my neighbours on his learners and his first bike is a 2008 harley (1530cc??)
Ixion
12th January 2008, 14:04
You would , perhaps, be utterly astonished if you knew how many of those Harleys were being ridden on 6L licenses. Or no class 6 at all.
Guessing, maybe 50%. Shitloads, anyway.
Chanak
12th January 2008, 16:42
The hog riders started out in cars,until they reached 50 and suffered MLC and wanted to project a badass image.:lol:
Knowing who some of the people riding them are... I probally shouldn't say any more ;)
Heres what I think of other peoples bikes, Nothing, Enjoy your ride.
:niceone:
Remember, the thread start was not about the fact people were riding harleys, it's about the fact they were -all- riding harleys.
I probally would've said the same thing had I parked a harley amongst a group of (insert pretty much anything else here).
And yes, I know some of them down there genuinely like riding their harleys, as it's the bike for them. :niceone:
Some of them have given the impression it should be HD or nothing...
And then you have the MLC 'badass image' ones! (And yes, even you HD fans have to admit, that it is a brand tied down with people like this).
Group A, good on them. Group B (most of whom are in group A also, so it's more a subgroup), well, they can be fun to mess with :msn-wink:. Group C.... :lol:
Big Dave
12th January 2008, 16:50
(And yes, even you HD fans have to admit, that it is a brand tied down with people like this).
That 'badass image' works significantly better at getting you noticed on the road than any florescent vest.
You look like you'll shit down their neck - then far, far fewer cars change lanes on you, pull out in front of you - they give you much more room than the gentleman rider on his motorbike.
I do both acts - mofo is a lot safer.
Chanak
12th January 2008, 16:55
That 'badass image' works significantly better at getting you noticed on the road than any florescent vest.
You look like you'll shit down their neck - then far, far fewer cars change lanes on you, pull out in front of you - they give you much more room than the gentleman rider on his motorbike.
But not when it becomes 'just another Harley'
Big Dave
12th January 2008, 16:57
But not when it becomes 'just another Harley'
It works just as well on my Thunderbird.
Chanak
12th January 2008, 17:08
It works just as well on my Thunderbird.
Which is not 'just another harley' ;)
And if you were to look at my original referral to 'badass image', it was about the MLC types, buying one to look badass, as referred to by Pixie.
Y'know, the ones that were probably looking at a MX5 also ;)
Big Dave
12th January 2008, 17:14
book - cover
rider - costume
Headbanger
12th January 2008, 17:15
The image that Harley use to sell their bikes is cheesy crap, And people who are sucked into and repeat it are morons. Especially the ones who hang around dealerships talking the "biker" talk.
If its about anything more then riding a sweet bike, Then you are just another marketing victim, Buying a Harley does not change your lifestlyle, Buying a bike may do, If you ride it.
Nothing badarse about corporate Harley marketing, Or knobends in designer bike gear.
Big Dave
12th January 2008, 18:12
Nothing badarse about corporate Harley marketing, .
Quite the opposite.
Forbes magazine company of the year 2005? on the strength of corporate governance.
Timber020
12th January 2008, 20:25
I beat 3 of them heading out to makara on my RG50 (one didnt try very hard but the other two were chasing hard, exchanged the lead twice with them), they were pissed to find out that the bike was registered as a moped. Good blokes, shiney loud bikes, a great biking moment.
Harleys riders do cop alot of flak, but alot of it is deserved due to mid life crisis owners that ride on excessively loud and overchromed bikes dressed like pirates. (peacocks my mother calls them). If it wasnt Harleys we would be taking the piss out of other bikes, its just much easier with harleys as theres so much material to work with.
They were the first allied vehicle to enter german after there defeat in WW1, so they have historical cred, and they are out there riding with the rest of us.
Big Dave
12th January 2008, 20:36
I rode a new one with a Z1200, K1200S and a Z900 up north today.
I enjoy the surprise when there's no trouble keeping on the pace.
'Geez you make that thing go.'
Big Dave
12th January 2008, 20:43
That 'mid-life crisis' thing is crap too. (generally - not you timber)
You get to a stage in life where you can afford nicer things as you get older. It's no crisis - just success.
I'd like to be in a situation to blow 40 large on a shiny toy.
Headbanger
12th January 2008, 21:08
This is the sort of marketing I'm talking about, You are who you are, Your view of the world isn't something that can be packaged with a bike.
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pritch
12th January 2008, 22:17
Sure mate - I live at Auckland Motorcycles and Powersports and my name is Patrick.
Yeah right. Please say Hello to Lou for me won't you?:msn-wink:
Big Dave
12th January 2008, 22:40
Your view of the world isn't something that can be packaged with a bike.
True, but the view of the world reflected in the chrome of a Fat Boy headlight is still mighty fine.
I believe in Skulls and Flames (Flames!), not so sure about saddlebags.
Headbanger
12th January 2008, 22:46
I just spent a whack of cash to get fittings machined up so I can fit my saddlebags, Granted they only go on when needed, But I like the idea of a couple clean pairs of gruts, a shirt, a tooth brush, and a pair of sandshoes stashed away.
geoffm
13th January 2008, 07:37
I could just rest my case, M'laird.
8,000km service intervals, self adjusting valves, carbon fibre belt drives, balanced engines, impressive handling (for a cruiser), superior finish, enviable re-sale, the motor-clothing - Much is understated and really well designed, the dealers,
I'll add more later.
Nothing new there - looks like HD are finally in the '80s...
8000km service intervals = BMW k100 circa 1983
Self adjusting valves = Honda CBX750 Boldoor (rolladoor) circa early 80s with hydralic tappets. Direct vavle actuation allows a higher RPM limit and more accurate cam timing, none of which is a HD design requirement.
Can't speak for the handling - although I would not be happy spending $40k and getting the crap OEM Showa (Japanese! Shock, horror) shocks. For that sort of money I would expect some Ohlins or equivalent and brakes to match. The standard long HD wheelbase and low CoG does help braking tho.
most Harleys around here don't spend enough time outside (especially in the rain) to comment on the finish and longevity. The BMW has stood up to years of commuting duty pretty well.
G
Big Dave
13th January 2008, 08:27
>>Direct vavle actuation allows a higher RPM limit and more accurate cam timing, none of which is a HD design requirement. <<
None of which is a 2008 road bike requirement.
>>Can't speak for the handling - although I would not be happy spending $40k and getting the crap OEM Showa (Japanese! Shock, horror) shocks.<<
Showa suspension performs almost as well as Ohlins nowdays.
Re-builadability and Longevity has the Vikings in front.
As I told the guys on the BMWs yesterday - If you are not in my mirrors - I can't see you. (But I waited at the turnoffs for them to catch up.)
huck farley
14th January 2008, 07:23
Well I have been hovering around reading all the posts and even watched the Vid, If those guys are not brainwashed in the Video I will eat my crash helmet.
It does prove one thing though the HD is not designed for NZ roads. As for the price of the top end models. For the same price. Looking at the Triumph range I could buy a Rocket 3, and a Street Triple for my wife. For a top end model Harley. So Value for money they are definitely not.
So it does very much come back to marketing and that ego thing. I chose my user name as I thought it was a bit of a laugh. But now I see the true colours of the Harley owner coming out.
I have said many times on this forum I don't hate the product. But definitely not my choice of a ride though. And have many good mates that ride them. The only issue I have, is with "some" of the dorks that do ride them.
If this statement touches a raw nerve end and I get retaliation re my user name then you can put yourself in the dorks categorie. Really it's as simple as that.
Ride safe, and not above your head!!
Huck Farley :girlfight:
Headbanger
19th January 2008, 00:01
My Harley loves NZ roads.
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