WTB: Sports 600

[Deviant Esq]

During the last year browsing through Trademe, keeping an eye on the market for when I got my full, there were a number of bikes popping up which where tempting me to upgrade early. But I held off and watched them all sell, thinking my time would come.

Only, now that I've got my full, all these tempting offers seem to have dried up completely! :weep: Could be a lot to do with the time of the year, I guess, but it's still pretty frustrating.

So, I'm looking to buy a nice sports 600, mid 90s to about 2000 (price dependant), something like a CBR600 F2 or F3, or ZX-6R (or equivalent from Mr Suzuki or Yamaha). I'd like it to be relatively stock standand - OEM fairings and paint job in tidy condition. An aftermarket end can is fine though. I don't want any projects at this stage, just something tidy and reliable, that doesn't need any major work.

I don't mind travelling in the South Island to view it, but I would much prefer the bike to be in Christchurch as I now decide what I like based on how it rides, not which sticker is on the tank or how it looks. Because I've never owned a bigger bike, I won't be buying one without test riding it first. Since I don't know how the particular bike rides it'd be silly buying a bike unseen, even if someone else has checked it out for me.

Ah, but how will I pay for it, I hear you ask, and what is my price range? I'll be paying the total agreed price in cash, or equivalent like internet banking. I'd prefer not to spend more than $6000 (would rather not spend more on my first big bike at this stage), but may spend a little more if I fall in love. ;)

Something like this (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports/auction-135268846.htm?key=87005) would be good, though this one is a little more than I want to spend at this point.

PM or post here, either way, thanks for looking. :)

[Deviant Esq]

Up you go.

I should also point out I will consider older sportsbikes as well, as long as they're well looked after. I don't have to spend $6k, after all ;)

[phoenixgtr]

Hmmm...what alot of response you've had...

[snot]

Only, now that I've got my full, all these tempting offers seem to have dried up completely! :weep: Could be a lot to do with the time of the year, I guess, but it's still pretty frustrating.

Only a fool waits until he is lisensed to get a bigger bike.

[James Deuce]

You sure you can't stretch to $7500 for a really nicely looked after 2004 Z750?

Talk to Bell.

[Deviant Esq]

Only a fool waits until he is lisensed to get a bigger bike.
Actually, it's quite the other way around, thanks all the same, but you might as well go post your spam somewhere else.


Hmmm...what alot of response you've had...
Got a bike you're wishing to sell, Tris? :innocent:


You sure you can't stretch to $7500 for a really nicely looked after 2004 Z750?
Don't think that I can, unfortunately. Also I'm not really looking for a naked bike at this stage, would quite like a fully faired bike. Cheers for peeking in tho ;)

[James Deuce]

Fully faired bike syndrome wears off the first time your pride and joy gets written off because of cosmetic damage.

[Deviant Esq]

Fully faired bike syndrome wears off the first time your pride and joy gets written off because of cosmetic damage.
Indeed, this has crossed my mind. Back and forth, back and forth... and it's still something I'm considering. I'll definitely be fitting crash bungs, no matter what I actually end up buying, whether it's faired or not. Still, I don't want the phantom of a crash to dictate to me what I'll consider as an option, either. Naked bikes I've ridden so far seem to have higher bars and lower pegs - nice when you want to cruise... but when you want to tuck in behind the screen, pretend you're Mick Doohan (just to be different ;)) and carve up some twisties? Can't beat a faired bike. But then, I'm a loon... :whistle:

[homer]

I was waiting fo ra bike to come up but ...hey
my saying is .........snooze you looze
looks like you lost



dont worry theres heaps bikes ,but now you have to wait ...again

[homer]

Indeed, this has crossed my mind. Back and forth, back and forth... and it's still something I'm considering. I'll definitely be fitting crash bungs, no matter what I actually end up buying, whether it's faired or not. Still, I don't want the phantom of a crash to dictate to me what I'll consider as an option, either. Naked bikes I've ridden so far seem to have higher bars and lower pegs - nice when you want to cruise... but when you want to tuck in behind the screen, pretend you're Mick Doohan (just to be different ;)) and carve up some twisties? Can't beat a faired bike. But then, I'm a loon... :whistle:

Id actually like to see abike in ok condition with crash bungs

havent seen one in one piece yet with them fitted

[Deviant Esq]

I was waiting fo ra bike to come up but ...hey
my saying is .........snooze you looze
looks like you lost

dont worry theres heaps bikes ,but now you have to wait ...again
What exactly did I lose? I don't believe I've lost anything. I'm not a man without patience, or I'd have bought a bigger bike sooner, wouldn't I.

Hell, if anyone wants to go out there and buy a bike that's bigger than their licence allows them to ride, and intentionally breaks the law, risking not just a big fine but a loss of licence, making it even longer until you can have your full, not to mention the consequences on insurance if you crash... i.e. no payout, you wouldn't be covered since you're not legally allowed to ride it - they can go for gold, be my guest.

Many people do upgrade before they're due, and that's fine, but I'm not one of them and am happy with the way I've done it. Legally, I might add. I was just lamenting the fact that the bikes where available then, but they aren't now.

I'm not here in this thread advising people to go one way or the other, if you want to discuss that, by all means, start yourself up a nice shiny new thread and discuss all you like.

[homer]

I thought from the start of your thread
the whole point of it was you were wanting to up grade like ...now
no you didnt loose
but thats not how the thread came across

Any ways sorry dosnt matter
but technically if your on a bigger bike ...if the crash isnt your fault your fine
You claim off them

[Deviant Esq]

I thought from the start of your thread
the whole point of it was you were wanting to up grade like ...now
no you didnt loose
but thats not how the thread came across

Any ways sorry dosnt matter
but technically if your on a bigger bike ...if the crash isnt your fault your fine
You claim off them
Not something I'd want to risk, though, since it's down to interpretation of the law enforcement, really. Mr. Motorist could plead innocent, and the police are more likely to agree with him if he's fully licenced and you are not.

Also, if you have a crash all on your own (and there's a fair chance of that, riding a bike you aren't used to yet), you'd be left without a leg to stand on. It wasn't a risk I was prepared to take.

Maybe the thread doesn't quite come off the way I intended - apologies for the misunderstanding. Yes, I would quite like a bigger bike now, thankyou for offering (;))... but I'm prepared to wait for the right bike to come along too. A little frustrating the bike shops in Christchurch don't seem to bother with selling sports 600s for me to look at...

[onearmedbandit]

Yeah not many of the dealerships in town stock $6000 sportsbikes.

[Deviant Esq]

Yeah not many of the dealerships in town stock $6000 sportsbikes.
What I meant is that they don't really seem to have any used sports 600s really. I'd like to at least be able to test ride one or two to get some idea of what to expect, but that's difficult when they just aren't around.

I know I'm not likely to find a good one in my price range at a dealer, I'm quite aware of that. That's why this WTB is on here...

[James Deuce]

Id actually like to see abike in ok condition with crash bungs

havent seen one in one piece yet with them fitted

They do their job fine thanks. No engine covers worn through, no oil escaping with engine running and bike on its side. Most Sportsbikes get crashed so hard the crash bungs are a moot point. At normal street speeds and in those topple over in the garage accidents they can save you hundreds of dollars and make sure your bike is at least mobile. The normal bin at 180 km/hr on a 35km/hr corner and end up three paddocks over sportsbike crash isn't going to leave a repairable bike.

[James Deuce]

What I meant is that they don't really seem to have any used sports 600s really.

There's a reason for that. Lads step off 250s and tuck in behind the screen and pretend they are Mick Doohan and crash on 35 km/hr corners at 180 km/hr and the farmer comes along after the accident and uses a front end loader to pick up the bits of bike strewn across three paddocks.

Such is the fate of a second hand, two generations past 600cc Sports bike.

[onearmedbandit]

What I meant is that they don't really seem to have any used sports 600s really. I'd like to at least be able to test ride one or two to get some idea of what to expect, but that's difficult when they just aren't around.

I know I'm not likely to find a good one in my price range at a dealer, I'm quite aware of that. That's why this WTB is on here...

Actually, I was being straight up. You've identified, in ChCh at least, a hole in the market.

[Gremlin]

At normal street speeds and in those topple over in the garage accidents they can save you hundreds of dollars and make sure your bike is at least mobile.
Each case is different... how about 30-40kph, mates bike was written off as he left an intersection when he found gravel, got high sided, bung ripped out of frame... bye bye bike.

That being said... I have bungs.

Deviant... prices are always inflated over summer, as that is when demand is highest. Simple economics of supply and demand. However, if you have to buy and sell at the same time (most of us are poor bastards and have to do this), you sell high, buy high, or sell low, buy low.

[Deviant Esq]

Up you go.

[Deviant Esq]

*Wanders along and *bumps* into the thread* ... :shifty:

Was going to go look at a GSX750 Katana this evening, about a '96 I think, sounded quite promising anyway... but then some utter pillock flew down from Wellington to see it at lunch time, and wound up buying it. Bah! Not enough bikes up for sale in Christchurch as it is without some Wellingtonian stealing it!! :pinch:

Hope it wasn't anyone off here, or I'm coming after you... :Pokey: :girlfight:

[Deviant Esq]

Bumpity bump! Not giving up so easily ;)

[Deviant Esq]

Up you go.
And repeat...

[limbimtimwim]

Get a VFR400 or an RVF400.

[Deviant Esq]

Get a VFR400 or an RVF400.
There's a couple of reasons why I don't really want to. Reason number one is that they're mostly quite overpriced for their age - I'd rather get a newer bike for the same kind of money. Reason two is that although they are reliable bikes, they are known as being more expensive to maintain. Reason three is that after test riding a 1990 NC30 and not being terribly inspired, I would quite like to see what a 600 has to offer. Sure, the NC30 I rode handled nicely and went well... but I really didn't like the flat spot that happened between 6000 and 8000rpm (which I hear most VFRs exhibit to some extent - anyone know more?), and the overall small size of the bike was another minus. Not knocking them at all, but it may not be the bike for me. :)

[Grub]

Something like this (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports/auction-135268846.htm?key=87005) would be good, though this one is a little more than I want to spend at this point.. :)

Great choice ... that's my bike ... and about what I paid for it too in the Autumn so geting one for that now is a good deal. But I agree, an F2 or F3 for the money you want to spend is ideal. We just sold our 1990 CBR600F all minted up with heaps spent on it for $3,500 so that's the sort of money you're looking at

[rwh]

Might be worth checking which bikes have crash bungs available, too - my 93 GSX750F doesn't. My guess is that the people who want them most are those that go hard - and have proper sports bikes. My bike is too tame for that, so I can't get crash bungs or aftermarket fairings. Or it could be just that it's too old.

Richard

[Deviant Esq]

Would recommend test riding a few 600s of that era, they were top fun :yes:
That's exactly what I'd like to be able to do - hop on and have a good ride of a few of them, like you say, ZX-6R, GSXR, CBR600, YZF600 (Thundercat), and such like... only I can't for the life of me find examples out there I can actually have a ride of! That said, I've got a guy popping over this afternoon with a 1995 YZF600 Thundercat so I can have a look at it. Only trouble is I don't know if I'll have time to test ride it since today's shaping up to be a busy day <_<

[Deviant Esq]

Would love to go look at some with you mate... never hurts to have a critical (i.e. not love struck by a new toy heheh) set of eyes along to give you some perspective :D I'll talk to you at the CWNR :yes:
That'd be appreciated actually, because when it comes down to it, I don't really know very much about bikes. Sure, I've learned a whole heap over the last two years, since I've been into them, but there's still a heck of a lot to learn! Sarge's thread about buying a used bike has come in handy though, good knowledge in there.

If you spot any I might be interested in (up to $6k preferred but can stretch a little if I fall in love ;)), let me know and we'll jack up a time to go check it out :)

Had a quick look at the Thundercat this afternoon. A few dings and scratches here and there, but overall pretty straight I thought. The owner wasn't too keen on letting me take it for a ride (can't blame him) unless I was definitely keen on owning it - an answer I wasn't prepared to give on account of not having ridden any of the other sports 600s - nothing to compare it to. He did mention he might come along to the W.N.R next week though...

[Deviant Esq]

:blink:

;)

[puddytat]

Might sell you my o4 R6 with about 25000 on it for about 8000 in march...

[James Deuce]

Blimey, that looks like my old bike! $8k eh?

[Deviant Esq]

Only $8k? What's wrong with it? :blink:

[jrandom]

Actually, come to think of it, I'll be selling my 1999 GSX-R750 SRAD 'X' with Yoshi exhaust and full Ohlins suspension shortly, in your price range.

Shipping from Auckland would be a few hundred bucks, but I'm sure that could be figured in.

<img src="http://www.suzukicycles.org/photos/suzuki-history/1999/1999_GSX-R750_blue_450.jpg"/>

[Deviant Esq]

Actually, come to think of it, I'll be selling my 1999 GSX-R750 SRAD 'X' with Yoshi exhaust and full Ohlins suspension shortly, in your price range.
*GSXR 750 SRAD pic*

That picture isn't your bike though, yours is matt bleck :bleh:

No disrespect or anything meant towards it, but I'd like something that is pretty standard overall - which means original factory paint scheme too. I don't doubt that your GSXR would be an excellent bike, esp with full Ohlins suspension (nommy)... but yeah. Also, I think a 750 of that calibre might be a teensy bit big of a step for me. The R6 is also pretty borderline.

[jrandom]

That picture isn't your bike though, yours is matt bleck :bleh:

Black and silver. Best GSX-R colour scheme, IMHO.


I'd like something that is pretty standard overall...

No, no. You must buy a motorcycle with instant street cred.


Also, I think a 750 of that calibre might be a teensy bit big of a step for me.

Nonsense, sir! I myself rode safely on that bike for fully three weeks after purchasing it before I highsided and broke bones.

[Deviant Esq]

Black and silver. Best GSX-R colour scheme, IMHO.
I thought it'd been repainted matt black, and had a picture of a snail on the rear fairing. That's not a factory colour scheme, with original decals etc, is it? Post a pic :bleh:


Nonsense, sir! I myself rode safely on that bike for fully three weeks after purchasing it before I highsided and broke bones.
While I very much believe that every rider is different, and that what happened to one man in one situation won't necessarily happen to the next in the same situation, this is the type of thing I'm trying to guard against. An NZ250 to a YZF600 / CBR600F is definitely a big step, and probably as large a step as I'm willing to make at this point, whether I've test ridden litrebikes or not... :whistle: ... living with them is something else entirely. :)

[jrandom]

I thought it'd been repainted matt black, and had a picture of a snail on the rear fairing. That's not a factory colour scheme, with original decals etc, is it? Post a pic :bleh:

Comes with black race fairings with a snail on 'em, also black and silver road fairings.


An NZ250 to a YZF600 / CBR600F is definitely a big step, and probably as large a step as I'm willing to make at this point...

Yes, indeed. I had a CBR600F4 in the carport *sniff* beside the Snail when I bought it and it was a much gentler, lighter, less powerful and all-around more learner-friendly motorcycle.

[puddytat]

Only $8k? What's wrong with it? :blink:

Oh alright then, 9k. Nah only joking...I got it for a song, planned to only keep 'er for a year,then go back to a twin...but she's an addictive wee beastie & it maybe harder to part with than I thought.
Nothing wrong with her at all, & still stock apart from me getting into the stock muffler & removing the restricting little anal pipe bit that sticks out the end...sounds way better, though not obnoxiously so.
I got her off a mate who was in financial strife & looking to only recoup the cost. If your innerested I will be @ the HAGD on 1st March @ Ruapuna,red/black R6,black leathers, come & say G'Day....though I wont Quit her till I get back from a Norf isl trip mid March....she'll have done approx 25000 by then

[puddytat]

Very easy bike to ride the R6, goes real slow when you want to...but'll leave nice black lines out of corners if you want it to,as well:yes::nono:...

[Deviant Esq]

...come & say G'Day....
Thanks, will have to try to remember that, if I still haven't bought another bike by then. :)

[Deviant Esq]

A Valentine's Day bump :)

[Trudes]

I'm sure I read that as:
"A Valentine's Day hump"
someone sell the boy a 600 already!

[Deviant Esq]

I'm sure I read that as:
"A Valentine's Day hump"
someone sell the boy a 600 already!
Well... I probably wouldn't object, but it depends who's offering I guess! :eek:
Yeah, someone really should sell me a good 600 :D

[T.W.R]

Try something a little bit different bud :yes:

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports/auction-140105659.htm?key=853304

[timetoride]

Oh alright then, 9k. Nah only joking...I got it for a song, planned to only keep 'er for a year,then go back to a twin...but she's an addictive wee beastie & it maybe harder to part with than I thought.
Nothing wrong with her at all, & still stock apart from me getting into the stock muffler & removing the restricting little anal pipe bit that sticks out the end...sounds way better, though not obnoxiously so.
I got her off a mate who was in financial strife & looking to only recoup the cost. If your innerested I will be @ the HAGD on 1st March @ Ruapuna,red/black R6,black leathers, come & say G'Day....though I wont Quit her till I get back from a Norf isl trip mid March....she'll have done approx 25000 by then

If Deviant aint keen I may be.:whistle: Just gotta finda a job and will be looking fir a Bike around then..:lol:

[Deviant Esq]

Whups, bumped the thread again... ;)


If your innerested I will be @ the HAGD on 1st March @ Ruapuna,red/black R6,black leathers, come & say G'Day....though I wont Quit her till I get back from a Norf isl trip mid March....she'll have done approx 25000 by then
Dammit, that was yesterday and I wasn't able to make it! :weep:

Still, hope you had a good day there anyway.

[fireliv]

Man even I will be keen on an R6...... but I still got 10 months to wait out and no moolaa