Cage drivers' behaviour

[awayatc]

I have been reading a fair bit about bad cagedriving behavior on KB, but I have found so far that the majority of car drivers have been quite courteous towards me. There are always bad drivers everywhere, people are people...
But I believe a lot has to do with your own riding style, assertive,mildly aggressive, and above all in their face: BE SEEN....
If somebody tailgates you, you are only a flick off the wrist away from putting another vehicle behind you.....
I know that I probably gonna get both barrels, but : "better the world! start with yourself...."
:done:

[James Deuce]

Troll! There's a troll in the dungeon. Thought you outta know.

[Deano]

Troll! There's a troll in the dungeon. Thought you outta know.

Dirty Sexy Money - man that is a catchy tune....what is it ?

[TOTO]

Yes true what you say, it has alot to do with how we as bikers behave. I've seen a number of situations and read about alot more when a biker is minding his own business and cager drives agresively and a normal biker is then forced to get down to to his animal insticts for survival. Thats how biker start behaving "out of the ordinary". When a dumb cager was going to ram me of the road (not coz he wanted kill me but still but thinking its OK to do it) I had to use all the humanity left in me not to smash her mirror or brake her damn window. Lucky I just screamed at her:weird::angry2::angry2::angry2:. next cager who pulls this on me not gonna be so lucky.:ar15::thud:

So there you go my friend, my 2c. for every action there is a reaction, the problem is that most times the action comes from a cager and a reaction may not follow from a biker coz he/she might be dead.

TOTO

[skelstar]

....what is it ?
Villa Maria Merlot?

[awayatc]

Yes true what you say, it has alot to do with how we as bikers behave. I've seen a number of situations and read about alot more when a biker is minding his own business and cager drives agresively and a normal biker is then forced to get down to to his animal insticts for survival. Thats how biker start behaving "out of the ordinary". When a dumb cager was going to ram me of the road (not coz he wanted kill me but still but thinking its OK to do it) I had to use all the humanity left in me not to smash her mirror or brake her damn window. Lucky I just screamed at her:weird::angry2::angry2::angry2:. next cager who pulls this on me not gonna be so lucky.:ar15::thud:

So there you go my friend, my 2c. for every action there is a reaction, the problem is that most times the action comes from a cager and a reaction may not follow from a biker coz he/she might be dead.

TOTO

Don't misunderstand me, I am still ordering a LOUD Nautilus airhorn from E-bay, and I didn't get my scars being nice to people all the time....
Anybody trying to kill me better make sure I am dead indeed....
But the majority of drivers (in the south at least..) seem to be giving me more space on my bike then when I am in my cage.....

Can of worms anybody?...:clap:;)

[James Deuce]

Ewwwww, Troll bogies!

[TOTO]

Fair Enough. I wish I had your type of cagers around where I ride. So far I think that the worst behaviour from cagers towards bikes is the CBD. People are just so angry at everythings there. cagers in small towns most of them nice - giving us way, telling the kids that they should wave at us. on some traffic lights some kids waved to me for like 2 minutes, could not stop waving too. was so nice...:laugh:

[Headbanger]

The kids just north of Te Kuiti were charming, I was following a school bus, Big smiles, lots of waving, They then got helpful, Gestured that it was safe for me to pass.

Knowing the sort of humour that appeals to school kids I was of course, Not going to trust them, Instead I just hung back and placed myself in a position to see around the bus.......and was nearly run down by the stock truck they had been trying to direct me under.....LMFAO,

[TOTO]

The kids just north of Te Kuiti were charming, I was following a school bus, Big smiles, lots of waving, They then got helpful, Gestured that it was safe for me to pass.

Knowing the sort of humour that appeals to school kids I was of course, Not going to trust them, Instead I just hung back and placed myself in a position to see around the bus.......and was nearly run down by the stock truck they had been trying to direct me under.....LMFAO,

little bastards :angry2: they deserve a :mad::spanking:

thats a good safety tip doug. never taught about that. 10x

[breakaway]

Fuckin cagers. Lynch the lot of them.

[McJim]

Fair Enough. I wish I had your type of cagers around where I ride. So far I think that the worst behaviour from cagers towards bikes is the CBD. People are just so angry at everythings there. cagers in small towns most of them nice - giving us way, telling the kids that they should wave at us. on some traffic lights some kids waved to me for like 2 minutes, could not stop waving too. was so nice...:laugh:
Wow - I found completely the opposite. Bigger the city the more courtesy from Drivers. London was great - people let you out at junctions, everyone merges on slip roads and motorways. You are expected to lane split (it's even part of the bike test!). Then I got to Auckland. Quite a bit of aggro but in the main nice enough - some loons try to take you out when splitting on the motorway.

Invercargill - every second mad bastard tries to race you, they beep horns when you filter to the front of the traffic lights. It's nuts I tell you.

[TOTO]

Wow - I found completely the opposite. Bigger the city the more courtesy from Drivers. London was great - people let you out at junctions, everyone merges on slip roads and motorways. You are expected to lane split (it's even part of the bike test!). Then I got to Auckland. Quite a bit of aggro but in the main nice enough - some loons try to take you out when splitting on the motorway.

Invercargill - every second mad bastard tries to race you, they beep horns when you filter to the front of the traffic lights. It's nuts I tell you.

Mind you london is in different country (:doh: dumb TOTO) and they have had traffic jams for ages and probably they have reached the point of understanding/admiring your ability to get around on 2 wheels, hence being more curtious.

Auckland = crazy

Invercargil = something not quite right with that region .. not sure what, I'm foreign ...:oi-grr:

[delusionz]

There are assholes that drive their cars like weapons and couldn't care less whether you have a tin can protecting your precious body parts or not.


I have been reading a fair bit about bad cagedriving behavior on KB, but I have found so far that the majority of car drivers have been quite courteous towards me. There are always bad drivers everywhere, people are people...
But I believe a lot has to do with your own riding style

Buddy, This hardly applies to you because you'll notice that 99% of posts about cages trying to kill them are by people in Auckland, I'd be worried if you had anything like this rat race down there in Canterbury but incase you do ever ride in Auckland, That attitude right there will get you killed - Never count on car drivers to be courteous, to abide by road rules, to do what they should, etc... I learned that lesson the hard way (yes the road is very hard and I'm very lucky to be alive).

[gijoe1313]

Well as per usual, out on a pootle today (er yesterday) and the usual moronic cager behaviour. Some think it must be okay to ride with one wheel over the center line, or even to cut around blind corners to "even" it out, even overtake on intersections into oncoming bikers ... or the 4WDs drivers who seem to think they are bullet proof and drive like they own the whole road (I know as bikers we ride to "own" the road). True, even us bikers are guilty of committing some of those very actions we despise.

Even when they have done wrong, and you pull them up short on it, they will react by ignoring you, doing worse to you or ... take it out on the next biker they see.

We all just need to get along, watch out for the nutters and not get munted by them. Its just that when it all goes pear shaped, you know who will be the worse for wear ... :no:

Ride defensively, take premptive action, ride to the conditions ... and all those "glib cliches" as others are wont to mention are all axioms of truth.

We all have our stories and its great we share them, there may be a kernel of knowledge or advice that we store away and pull out of our arse when it is sphincter clenching time to ride another day.

I'm always ready to read, listen and think for myself and question everything so that I can enjoy the ride and not ride to die.

[Insanity_rules]

I hear what your all saying but the plain truth is that a good half of these situations are caused but cage drivers asserting a good spoonful of moronic behaviour on us bikers.

I can cop to pulling out a little short in front of a bike or two but I'd NEVER try and monster a fellow biker in my cage cause i know what its like on the receiving end. I've had some situations that would curl ya hair and straighten your pubes with really dumb cagers in my time and I don't blame most of us who lash out.

[madandy]

*555 the assholes.
A nice letter from the Police explaining that bullying Motorcyclists is a dangerous and punishable past time will go some way to improving the education many motorists require - in time.
In the past I have stopped and removed peoples' keys and thrown them into oncoming traffic lanes, torn wing mirrors off, kicked in doors...All of which helped me vent my anger but did nothing positive for peoples' opinion of bikers and could have gotten me arrested.
So dob the cunts in to the cops. :Police:

[suckingair]

My .02 worth..
Two stories..
1. I'm at the control lights waiting to go south on the motorway in Auckland (Takanini to be precise..) The lights are in effect, I'm stopped waiting for the green, when from behind I hear the squeal of car tyres, next thing I'm on my back and my bike is about 15 meters ahead of me. Rear-ended while at a red light, there is nothing that I could have done (except to run a red light) that would have stopped me from getting hit.

2. 3 months after that I get my bike back and I'm riding to work on the motorway, when I come across a hugeeee line of traffic. What could be holding up everyone ? 2 bikers one in the left lane an other in the right, both doing the same speed, less than 70 km.. Come on guys, use your mirrors.

Guess what happened when the rider in the right lane moved to the left ? The car that was directly behind the rider was so close he should have got out an introduced himself.

Some doors swing both ways.

[Swoop]

... I had to use all the humanity left in me not to smash her mirror or brake her damn window.
Come over to the dark side. You know you really want to...
We have cookies!

My .02 worth..
Two stories..
1. I'm at the control lights waiting to go south on the motorway in Auckland (Takanini to be precise..) The lights are in effect, I'm stopped waiting for the green,
Why?
Bikes do not stop at those.

[PrincessBandit]

I have been reading a fair bit about bad cagedriving behavior on KB, but I have found so far that the majority of car drivers have been quite courteous towards me. There are always bad drivers everywhere, people are people...
But I believe a lot has to do with your own riding style, assertive,mildly aggressive, and above all in their face: BE SEEN....
If somebody tailgates you, you are only a flick off the wrist away from putting another vehicle behind you.....
I know that I probably gonna get both barrels, but : "better the world! start with yourself...."
:done:

Well, you are lucky to be living down that end of the country (have rellies in Woodend, so I know where you are........oooooooo). Here in Manure-wa (Sth Auckland) we seem to have an over-representation of dickhead car drivers. In the last 3 weeks I have been: (i) tailgated and overtaken by a prize dork who had to force his car up onto the grass median strip up the carriageway to get past me along Druces rd (when there wasn't even a gap to push into between me and the car I was following) oh, I was in my car for that one; (ii) both my husband and I had the same tailgating treatment from a Rav4 driver while we were on our bikes going along the Takanini straight (both of us gave him the big finger, then his girlfriend also gave him an earful :laugh:); (iii) back in my cynos again, taking daughter to work same thing happened again along Russell Rd and this idiot still forced his way past me into oncoming traffic!!! (both him and his delightful passenger gave me the royal finger when I blasted my horn at them) then.....wait for it......wait for it.....I passed him as he then proceeded to wait to turn left just a hundred metres up the road...... OMG where do these people come from? All these tailgaters were ones who weaved left/right/left looking to push round either side despite only being single lanes in every instance. In all these cases I was doing more than the legal speed limit (not by much mind), and travelling with the flow of the traffic. Have lived in South Auckland nearly all my life and now can't wait to get out of Auckland and leave the madhouse behind.:argh::argh: