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fredie
16th January 2008, 00:33
http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,23059317-5001028,00.html TWO protesters have been taken hostage and tied to the radar mast of a Japanese whaling vessel in the Southern Ocean, the Sea Shepherd Conservation Society claims.

Australian citizen Benjamin Potts and British citizen Giles Lane, activists aboard the Sea Shepherd vessel Steve Irwin, boarded the Japanese whaling vessel Yashin Maru No 2 this afternoon, a statement from the group said.

The statement, sent from aboard the Steve Irwin, said Mr Potts and Mr Giles had been taken hostage and have been tied to a radar mast.

The captain of the Japanese vessel has refused the demand of the Steve Irwin's captain Paul Watson to release the pair immediately.

The two men boarded the vessel to hand the captain a letter advising that the crew was "illegally killing whales".

The action came after the Federal Court outlawed whaling in Australian Antarctic waters in a ruling the government said it would not try to enforce.

The Sea Shepherd Conservation Society earlier reported that the crew of the Steve Irwin had located five whaling vessels at 11.15am (AEDT).

"Sea Shepherd is demanding that Australia and Great Britain demand an immediate release of these two crew members," the Society said.

Pwalo
16th January 2008, 06:14
Let's hope they keep him. How can you be taken hostage if you board another vessel? Well I guess they refuse to let you get off, but it looks a bit like a publicity stunt. (Surely not).

Street Gerbil
16th January 2008, 07:42
I am almost certain that coming aboard without permission is a felony under the maritime law.

Flatcap
16th January 2008, 07:44
"Sea Shepherd is demanding that Australia and Great Britain demand an immediate release of these two crew members," the Society said.


I assume then that walking the plank is an option...

Okey Dokey
16th January 2008, 07:48
I've heard that the 2 boarders poured acid on the deck and tried to interfere with the crew running the ship. Sounds to me like they needed to be restrained/detained.

onearmedbandit
16th January 2008, 07:54
Hahahahahah, that'll fuck 'em.

davereid
16th January 2008, 07:55
I'm sure the japs could lock 'em in the dunny or something.

Must be bloody cold tied to the mast of a boat in the southern ocean.!

But the view of the whales would be awesome.

Big Dave
16th January 2008, 08:12
I wonder what everyone talks like on the 'Steve Irwin'.

imdying
16th January 2008, 08:18
Hahahahah dickheads, what sort of reaction did they expect piracy to get? Should sink the Steve Irwin whilst they're at it.

WRT
16th January 2008, 08:46
Crikey!!

BTW, while I think it's very nice of Sea Shepard to name the boat after Steve, I just can't see him agreeing with or condoning their methods in the least.

onearmedbandit
16th January 2008, 08:52
Crikey!!

BTW, while I think it's very nice of Sea Shepard to name the boat after Steve, I just can't see him agreeing with or condoning their methods in the least.

+1. These guys are a million miles away from what Steve Irwin was.

ManDownUnder
16th January 2008, 08:56
An idea.... why not just sit behind the whaling vessel... and shoot every whale going up the slipway with a hypodermic full of cyanide or something equally nasty that would poison the meat rendering it useless?

The whale is going to die anyway, the Japanese claim they only grab the earwax... so how could they possibly protest... unless they actually do eat the meat ...

... naaaa they'd never do that... Tui anyone?

Paul in NZ
16th January 2008, 11:26
Wow - must be getting pretty lawless down there. I heard the japanese had arrested two pirates attempting to steal their ship... Matter of perspective I suppose (still don't like whaling though)

imdying
16th January 2008, 11:51
Well they were two pirates... unless boarding a boat uninvited can be considered something else? They're doing well not to have been biffed overboard without life jackets... although if the fleet is out at sea for a few months, a tiny wee room on a Japanese whaling boat probably won't be a fun place to live... if I were the Japanese, I know what I'd be supplying as there only source of food ;)

xwhatsit
16th January 2008, 12:30
Stupid, stupid mofos. Have utter contempt for those Sea Shepherd idiots. I can't see them getting much sympathy (although I'm sure certain sections of the media will try and sensationalise it as though it is WWII all over again).

Imdying -- bahahahah -- except they'd probably refuse to eat it and claim human rights abuses. If they starved it wouldn't be such a great loss I suppose.

Swoop
16th January 2008, 15:39
Why does all of this resemble something, that would normally appear on an episode of The Simpsons?

P38
16th January 2008, 17:41
What a bloody idiot.

Him and his drongo pommie mate

Serves themselves bloody right!!!!

They want to be thank their bloody stars the Japs dont make sushi outta their


DUMBASSES!!!!!:spanking:

jonbuoy
16th January 2008, 17:58
Yeah what a bunch of arseholes standing up for what they believe in. Couldn't someone donate a couple of surplus Exocets to the sea shepherd?

ital916
16th January 2008, 18:18
I have utter contempt for the bloody japanese whalers. We have the task of looking after our planet, whales are an endangered species *if they're not today they will be soon*. Scientific purposes..yeah right they bloody advertise the meat overthere, in fact they are trying to put it on the bloody schooling lunch schedule. I reckon the australia government is made of twits, they should enforce th elaw and escort all whaling ships the fuck out of here!

jonbuoy
16th January 2008, 18:23
Estimated population of Japan 127 million, estimated humpback whale population 40,000. Which of these needs a population cull to preserve fish stocks?

roogazza
16th January 2008, 18:23
So, they're not happy pirates then ???? The Plank !!!! G.

The Pastor
16th January 2008, 18:39
are they tied buy there necks to the mast?

fredie
16th January 2008, 21:57
the whale killers get over $1 million per whale . they make pet food out of it aswell . could u think what animal rights would do if all cattle farmers harpooned there cattle . the whales take 30 mins too die :Oi:the killers are in australian waters :spanking:

xwhatsit
16th January 2008, 22:00
Grow up, hippies :laugh:

Eat some whale sometime. It's feckin' good.

Manxman
16th January 2008, 22:06
Observations:
1) who says that mincke whales are endangered? Greenpeace = Yes, Japan (and some recognised scientists) = No. Question is: who really knows???
2) save the whales...save the sheep. NZ 'culled' 26 million of the poor buggers last year. Sheep have no chance of escaping the bullet. A-ha, I hear you say, but sheep are sustainable. Retort: See above...aren't whales sustainable as well???
3) just watched that programme about Sarah Hitchings, who has Cystic Fibrosis...immediately followed by the top of the news article about petulant little green people illegally boarding a ship in international waters (at least they didn't try to ram it this time). This rather puts things in perspective for me. You see, if people feel so inclined to make the world a better place, then why don't these people put their efforts in to something that will actually benefit sick people, not healthy..sustainable??? whales.

FFS greenies, if you want to spend your lives attention seeking and getting yourselves on TV and 'doing us all a favour' (gee, thanks...saving the whales really improves my life and all those starving people in Somalia by fecking sh*tloads), then apply yourselves constructively...go down to your local MP, bang on their door and make a big fuss to get a cure for Cystic Fibrosis funded. *Don't* bang on their door to ask if the government will send a navy ship down to 'monitor the situation', costing us a couple of mill in the process.

Bring on the red rep...:bleh:

A healthy scepticism never hurt anyone, but it's amazing how much a tail wagging the dog really pisses people off...

Timber020
16th January 2008, 23:02
I think harpooning a few japanese would go down a treat, something on live television, but only use a small harpoon (done to scale of course) give em a bit of current then drag him on the back of a ute using hooks and harpoon to cut him up using scapels on broom handles.

Manxman you dont seem to have worked this out yet but Greenies in general really dont give a shit about people as a species, we are in no risk of being made extinct unless by our own hand, so the somalians can continue to starve as they always have and always will, the chick with cystic fibrosis will be a victim of her disease but humanity with blindly stumble on.
I gotta admit, I dont have much faith in humanity, person by person I like people fine, but as a species we fuck up to much and barely ever learn from our mistakes. I guess that makes me a greenie of sorts.

Given the choice of being able to cure a disease that kills a thousand people a year and saving a thousand whales, I would go for saving the rarer of the species, the one that cant help itself.

nallac
17th January 2008, 09:11
Estimated population of Japan 127 million, estimated humpback whale population 40,000. Which of these needs a population cull to preserve fish stocks?

I know which one i would choose to cull...............

imdying
17th January 2008, 09:17
Blah blah save the whales etc etc. They're a million miles from anywhere, the consequences of a mistake is failure. It's not appropriate for them to muck about with other peoples boats in such a harsh environment.

I've no problem with them tipping cans of red paint all over Whales R Us's head office in Tokyo, but if the shite goes west down there, people are going to die.

If that's the way they want to roll, then I can see no reason why a Japanese Navy vessel shouldn't accompany the fleet to protect the countries interests.

bull
17th January 2008, 09:17
guess the japanese just need to come up with a high tech fencing system that works in the ocean, then the whales will be just like cattle - then perhaps these greenies with their heads up the whales arses will realise that whale is another sustainable resource.

As for the pirates, how is it that all people seem to get told is that they have been taken hostage, just more media irresponsibility, call it how it is - they illegally boarded the ship (uninvited) and are now being dealt with in the legal manner, detained until legal advice is sought.

imdying
17th January 2008, 09:27
guess the japanese just need to come up with a high tech fencing system that works in the ocean, then the whales will be just like cattle - then perhaps these greenies with their heads up the whales arses will realise that whale is another sustainable resource.That would be my preference... I've no problem if they chop whales up, but at least figure out how to do it sustainably (assuming it isn't already).

dipshit
17th January 2008, 09:45
That would be my preference... I've no problem if they chop whales up, but at least figure out how to do it sustainably (assuming it isn't already).

Even sailboat technology a 150 years ago nearly made several species of whales extinct. There use to be whales all over the place off the Otago coast... could even be seen up the peninsula harbour. Leave the fuckers alone. Greenpeace should ram and sink their ships.

Mully
17th January 2008, 12:01
save the whales

I'm trying to, but it's really hard to get the whole set in my bedroom.

imdying
17th January 2008, 12:04
Nothing wrong with a bit of whale tail :whistle:

Pwalo
17th January 2008, 12:16
Greenpeace should ram and sink their ships.

Yes I'm sure that such action would result in the Greenpeace boats sinking. And why would you do that for an Australian?

Maffoo
17th January 2008, 19:14
mincke whales are NOT endangered

they actually eat the fish we eat

& yeah, boarding a vessel unannounced & unrequested in international waters is piracy

i wouldnt be surprised if they were held until the ship returned to japan & charged

jonbuoy
17th January 2008, 19:28
mincke whales are NOT endangered

they actually eat the fish we eat

& yeah, boarding a vessel unannounced & unrequested in international waters is piracy

i wouldnt be surprised if they were held until the ship returned to japan & charged

Would only be piracy if the intent was to steal anything or take control of the vessel. Their aim is to make life difficult for the crew and operators. And the nerve of those minke whales, eating fish that we eat - like we haven't raped the seas for long enough. Ever wonder why things aren't like the old days when you could trot down to the beach and haul in half a dozen snapper for breakfast or pick up a few crayfish, its not down to a few minke or humpbacks, its over fishing by humans. Its sickening to see what a factory fishing ship can haul up in a few days.

devnull
17th January 2008, 19:31
mincke whales are NOT endangered

they actually eat the fish we eat

& yeah, boarding a vessel unannounced & unrequested in international waters is piracy

i wouldnt be surprised if they were held until the ship returned to japan & charged

Agreed... This Sea Shepherd outfit are the new age eco-terrorists, milking this for as much publicity as they can get.

That lot are going to get someone killed.
Hopefully it won't be an innocent 3rd party

The British Navy had a good deterrent for naughty activities - keelhauling :done:
I bet they didn't get repeat offenders.

Though the skipper of the Jap boat would've been within his rights to shoot the pricks boarding his vessel - nothing says "No Visitors Please" like 00 buckshot

Delphinus
17th January 2008, 19:53
mincke whales are NOT endangered

they actually eat the fish we eat
So whats the fish got to do with it? Because they eat the same stuff as us are they competition therefore fair game to kill?

Delphinus
17th January 2008, 19:55
guess the japanese just need to come up with a high tech fencing system that works in the ocean, then the whales will be just like cattle - then perhaps these greenies with their heads up the whales arses will realise that whale is another sustainable resource.


That would be my preference... I've no problem if they chop whales up, but at least figure out how to do it sustainably (assuming it isn't already).

Sure it might be able to be made sustainable, but it sure as hell isn't now. The Jap's have no regard for future generations, all they are interested is making the cash now.

Maffoo
17th January 2008, 20:08
So whats the fish got to do with it? Because they eat the same stuff as us are they competition therefore fair game to kill?

the japanese claim is that if they dont hunt mincke's, the mincke's will grow in number & actually threaten fish stocks ... therefore they need to be culled

doesnt bother me either way, i can barely afford to eat fish anyway
but all you snapper & tuna lovin greenies out there remember, that fish you buy, could be feeding a mincke ...

Finn
17th January 2008, 20:22
Excellent! I hope the reason they tied those soft cocks to the mast was to make them watch the gutting of whales.

As for Steve Erwin, ever been to the Australian Zoo? They're more Capitalists than Conservationists. $60 bucks to get in just to see a snake, a crocodile and a fucken kangaroo. I was so bored I asked where they kept the Stingrays.

Delphinus
17th January 2008, 20:29
threaten fish stocks ... therefore they need to be culled
Threaten fish stocks? That'll be the day. Dad used to be able to sit on the rocks and catch huge snapper back 20-30 years ago... good luck getting anything like that in your favourite fishing spot these days...

Marine reserves are an amazing sight if you ever get the chance to dive/snorkel in one. I've spend many a day checking out the fish at Goat Island... as soon as you go outside the no-fishing barrier it becomes quite empty again...

xwhatsit
17th January 2008, 21:38
So whats the fish got to do with it? Because they eat the same stuff as us are they competition therefore fair game to kill?

No, they're fair game because they're not endangered and they're thriving. What's the difference between them and wild deer, say? Don't get so bloody sentimental about a mammal wot lives in the sea.

How come nobody gets on Iceland's tits about all of their whale hunting? Is it because... hmm... they're white and they didn't fight us in WWII?

bull
17th January 2008, 21:57
The Jap's have no regard for future generations, all they are interested is making the cash now.

Sadly another blinded by the media and greenpeace propaganda.

Delphinus
17th January 2008, 22:04
Sadly another blinded by the media and greenpeace propaganda.

Ok then, I'm open to debate.
Are you saying the "scientific whaling" is just that - purely for research?
Is the fish/whale/dolphin population not under threat from mankind?

Ixion
17th January 2008, 22:14
Would only be piracy if the intent was to steal anything or take control of the vessel. Their aim is to make life difficult for the crew and operators. And the nerve of those minke whales, eating fish that we eat - like we haven't raped the seas for long enough. Ever wonder why things aren't like the old days when you could trot down to the beach and haul in half a dozen snapper for breakfast or pick up a few crayfish, its not down to a few minke or humpbacks, its over fishing by humans. Its sickening to see what a factory fishing ship can haul up in a few days.

Not so under NZ law




Piratical acts
(1) Every one commits a piratical act who—

(a) Within New Zealand, or, being a New Zealand citizen or a person ordinarily resident in New Zealand, outside New Zealand, under pretence of any commission from any State other than New Zealand (whether or not that State is at war with New Zealand) or under pretence of authority from any person whatever, commits an act of hostility or robbery:



"an act of hostility" is sufficient.

Street Gerbil
17th January 2008, 22:30
Save the whales for fucks sakes!
How can one possibly have anything against such a serene creature?!!

Pwalo
18th January 2008, 06:19
Save the whales for fucks sakes!
How can one possibly have anything against such a serene creature?!!

I think the Japanese only want to eat them.

jonbuoy
18th January 2008, 06:24
Not so under NZ law



"an act of hostility" is sufficient.

What hostile action have they taken?

imdying
18th January 2008, 06:56
What hostile action have they taken?With such tension between the two groups, if I were the captain of the whaling vessel, I would consider any attempt by them to board, hostile. They were stupid enough to put themselves in that position, now they can stay captive till the boat reaches port and the Japanese judicial system can decide. Lucky for them the Japanese pussied out (http://www.stuff.co.nz/4360891a10.html).

bull
18th January 2008, 07:45
Ok then, I'm open to debate.
Are you saying the "scientific whaling" is just that - purely for research?
Is the fish/whale/dolphin population not under threat from mankind?

Scientific - I hope so coz thats what the Japanese are legally entitled to do.
And the parts of the whale that are not used obviously get sold as product, seems smarter than just dumping as waste.

Under threat - id have to say that yes they are under threat by our existence but as the ocean is a mighty big place how the hell do they work out how much, or how little fish are in their still. All figures are based on catch numbers whilst not knowing the amounts in the sea to start with. That would seem that the numbers are a bit fishy.

Freakshow
18th January 2008, 08:20
I am enjoying hearing about the crazy saga's down south as it really is pirates vs pirates. I mean what authority will go down there to enforce good behaviour! I mean come on An Aussie and a pom (unlikly to speak japanese) board a boat and in the southern ocean after chassing them for a few days and ignoring contact! What did they expect! a cup of tea and a cucumber sandwich. I think the whalers were quite polite!

Mully
18th January 2008, 08:42
That would seem that the numbers are a bit fishy.

Or whale-y as it were

Delphinus
18th January 2008, 09:25
Scientific - I hope so coz thats what the Japanese are legally entitled to do.
And the parts of the whale that are not used obviously get sold as product, seems smarter than just dumping as waste.
So either its research, and as you say using the waste not dumping it....
Or they are catching whales under the guise of scientific research...
But in how many fields of scientific research involve slaughtering animals?


Under threat - id have to say that yes they are under threat by our existence but as the ocean is a mighty big place how the hell do they work out how much, or how little fish are in their still. All figures are based on catch numbers whilst not knowing the amounts in the sea to start with. That would seem that the numbers are a bit fishy.
What do you think the decline in catch numbers represents?
Maybe the fish are just hiding better?

bull
18th January 2008, 10:12
Apart from harvesting it for food, I couldnt think of a better reason than science to slaughter an animal. Wouldnt it be brilliant if they find a cure for cancer and aids from this research? maybe the whales have shown they carry it in their genes and the japanese are trying to extract it somehow?
Bet all the Greenies with cancer would be saying - no id rather die than be cured because of how the cure was found. Tui?

And as for the fish catches, surely evolution means that they are smarter now and perhaps have moved to regions not so easily fished? its a bloody big ocean.

Delphinus
18th January 2008, 11:14
Wouldnt it be brilliant if they find a cure for cancer and aids from this research? maybe the whales have shown they carry it in their genes and the japanese are trying to extract it somehow?
Is that your idea of why they are slaughtering them or something you have read? If so I'd like to see the source please.


And as for the fish catches, surely evolution means that they are smarter now and perhaps have moved to regions not so easily fished? its a bloody big ocean.

I'm going with Occam's Razor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam's_Razor) on this one...
Option A: Fish have evolved enough in the last 20 years (very very very short amount of time) to recognise when an invisible net is coming catching absolutely everything in its path that they hide somewhere away from it, and future nets.
Option B: Man has fished the sea dry... like almost every other natural resource.

I choose B.

bull
18th January 2008, 11:28
Is that your idea of why they are slaughtering them or something you have read? If so I'd like to see the source please.



I'm going with Occam's Razor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam's_Razor) on this one...
Option A: Fish have evolved enough in the last 20 years (very very very short amount of time) to recognise when an invisible net is coming catching absolutely everything in its path that they hide somewhere away from it, and future nets.
Option B: Man has fished the sea dry... like almost every other natural resource.

I choose B.

So you say in B that fish in the sea are a natural resource, yet people get up in arms when we use it?

surely Occam's Razor can only apply to option A - invisible nets, where? i cant see them, now that would definitely be a phenomenon though.

Ok this should stop now, its great to see so many supporters for the whales and equally to see so many supporters of the whaling. My opinion is that its allright and yours is that it isnt. Good on both of us. :clap:

imdying
18th January 2008, 11:54
So you say in B that fish in the sea are a natural resource, yet people get up in arms when we abuse it?
Fixed it for ya :Pokey:

At least, I think that's what the likely response to that question will be. Me, I say batter em up :yes:

Clockwork
18th January 2008, 15:01
Threaten fish stocks? That'll be the day. Dad used to be able to sit on the rocks and catch huge snapper back 20-30 years ago... good luck getting anything like that in your favourite fishing spot these days...

Marine reserves are an amazing sight if you ever get the chance to dive/snorkel in one. I've spend many a day checking out the fish at Goat Island... as soon as you go outside the no-fishing barrier it becomes quite empty again...

If the fish havn't gotten smarter in the last 20 years..... how do they know to not leave the reserve?

Makes yer think dunnit?:msn-wink:

imdying
18th January 2008, 16:25
They're not smart enough to leave the reserve ;)

Delphinus
18th January 2008, 18:15
So you say in B that fish in the sea are a natural resource, yet people get up in arms when we use it?

Yes, as imdying says, when we abuse it.
There is nothing wrong with doing ANYthing in a sustainable way and in moderation. Sheep and beef faming for example is much more sustainable, we're putting in and taking out about the same. As for fishing its all just take take take.
The way we're going about it now we're loosing alot... The fishing from the rocks pastime as a kid has been lost.


surely Occam's Razor can only apply to option A - invisible nets, where? i cant see them, now that would definitely be a phenomenon though.
Ok hard to see then. I've been net fishing before, wading through the water with a friend on the other end towing a net, and its not easy to see.... We only caught enough to feed ourselves, and threw anything not big enough back.


Ok this should stop now, its great to see so many supporters for the whales and equally to see so many supporters of the whaling. My opinion is that its allright and yours is that it isnt. Good on both of us. :clap:
Its interesting to see what other people think, I enjoy a healthy and informed debate. Can learn alot.


If the fish havn't gotten smarter in the last 20 years..... how do they know to not leave the reserve?
Good point. But I feel there is a difference between a safe environment with ample supplies of food, other wildlife/shellfish/massive crayfish/etc as far as the eye can see....
Or the empty barren coastline beside it...
I know where i'd be ;)

fredie
19th January 2008, 20:08
bombs away . acid bombs are used now:laugh::bleh: . have not killed a whale for 9 days cause of acid stink bombs:headbang: . pirate prisoners have been released http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,23076309-5001028,00.html

Steam
19th January 2008, 20:11
Just to clarify, the "Acid Bombs" are a weak acid, so weak that you can take a swim in it and you'll be fine, except for the uncontrollable vomiting from the smell.

fredie
19th January 2008, 20:20
stop japan killing whales . start selling more lamb too them $$$$$$$$$$:rolleyes:

Street Gerbil
20th January 2008, 11:20
bombs away . acid bombs are used now:laugh:
Well, it is no longer a felony.
Technically, an armed attack on a naval vessel constitutes an act of war.
I do hope japanese sailors are armed.

Steam
20th January 2008, 11:34
Technically, an armed attack on a naval vessel constitutes an act of war.
I do hope japanese sailors are armed.


Why, so they can shoot the anti-whaling "terrorists"?
That'd go a long way towards ending their whaling, the PR ramifications would be terrible for the Japanese.
Also, there are no navy ships involved either side. They are company ships.

Remember the protesters haven't hurt anyone. Sure they've rammed in the past (actually it was the Japs to failed to give way) and they lob bottles of stinky liquid, but that's hardly an act of war.
Jumping on the Jap boat is trespass, but not an act of war either.

(they sank whaling ships in Norway this is true (nobody hurt) , but that's a separate campaign from this Southern Ocean one, there are different tactics and rules of engagement up in the Northern Hemisphere.)

fredie
20th January 2008, 15:37
Well, it is no longer a felony.
Technically, an armed attack on a naval vessel constitutes an act of war.
I do hope japanese sailors are armed.
useing harpoons is a act of war :whistle::2guns:

imdying
21st January 2008, 07:13
Remember the protesters haven't hurt anyone.Awesome, lets wait till they do.


(they sank whaling ships in Norway this is true (nobody hurt) , but that's a separate campaign from this Southern Ocean one, there are different tactics and rules of engagement up in the Northern Hemisphere.)Sounds like war to me... I'd be shooting the tossers.

Ixion
21st January 2008, 08:23
Well, it is no longer a felony.
Technically, an armed attack on a naval vessel constitutes an act of war.
I do hope japanese sailors are armed.

Only if the attack is by a sovereign power. Which it is not.

fredie
22nd January 2008, 02:30
give the whales torpedoes too blow up the japan killers:spanking::2guns:

imdying
22nd January 2008, 06:06
give the whales torpedoes too blow up the japan killers:spanking::2guns:Give the cows guns and the chickens choppers too? :whistle:

McJim
22nd January 2008, 22:34
What hostile action have they taken?

So if a vegetarian breaks into your house because you eat meat that's okay is it?

If the fucken pillocks think they're bulletproof and can lord it around the world selling their self righteous bullshit and boarding boats then fuckem.

Have any of you actually tried whale? Tastes nice man. Leave them Jappas alone.

fredie
6th February 2008, 23:44
whale might taste great . but too much $$$ for greedy grubs , plus there wont be anymore whales left soon .ALL GONE FOR EVER<_<

fredie
1st February 2009, 22:23
the japs get up too $140,000aus$ for 1 tuna in the tokio fish markets. they prob get over 5million$ per whale . its all about greed . this year the whale war is on again .the japan ship was damaged and had too port . but australia and nz refused them so the japs had too limp all the way up too indonesia :lol: the acid bombs are just rotten butter. very stinkie an slipery:lol::2thumbsup if we were not there the japs would have up 3 killing harpoon armed ships.a f--king killing field:mad:they would be killing over 10 whales each ship a day . but we have limited the japs too just one ship. and only up too 5 whales a day :2thumbsup

ital916
2nd February 2009, 19:53
guess the japanese just need to come up with a high tech fencing system that works in the ocean, then the whales will be just like cattle - then perhaps these greenies with their heads up the whales arses will realise that whale is another sustainable resource.

As for the pirates, how is it that all people seem to get told is that they have been taken hostage, just more media irresponsibility, call it how it is - they illegally boarded the ship (uninvited) and are now being dealt with in the legal manner, detained until legal advice is sought.

I think the key point people are missing is we are not making an attemp at keeping whales at a sustainable level. We cant call it a sustainable resource and then harvest it till the cows come home without actually making an effort to keep the population levels up.

ital916
2nd February 2009, 19:56
So if a vegetarian breaks into your house because you eat meat that's okay is it?

If the fucken pillocks think they're bulletproof and can lord it around the world selling their self righteous bullshit and boarding boats then fuckem.

Have any of you actually tried whale? Tastes nice man. Leave them Jappas alone.

It is funny how people seem so carefree about our planet, the human race is a disease on this planet. People say survival ofthe fittest, well we have a very big advantage over other species and with that advantage we should be preserving the planet.

That is not to say we shouldnt forget about mankinds own internal conflicts around the world but we are not the only thing livng on this earth.

fredie
2nd February 2009, 23:04
have tasted roast kiwi chicken bird mmmmmmmmm :devil2:

fredie
7th February 2009, 15:58
AN all-out war is close to breaking out on the high seas as the Japanese continue to slaughter whales while die-hard protesters use any means possible to try to stop them.

In the treacherous Southern Ocean early yesterday, protest ship the Steve Irwin collided with the Japanese whaling ship, Yushin Maru No.2, sparking outcry among crew aboard both vessels.

While the Federal Government has again urged for calm amid growing tensions, the situation could get worse before it gets better.

The Japanese are in the middle of their annual whale hunt and are currently trawling the Ross Sea, a deep bay of the Southern Ocean, for minke whales.

http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,25018986-5005941,00.html

Forest
7th February 2009, 16:10
The minke whale is not an endangered species. Almost everyone accepts that there are more than 650,000 of them in the Southern Ocean alone.

The Sea Shepherd folks are a bunch of fruit-loops.

Big Dave
7th February 2009, 16:40
Do you 'ave a lice-honce for the Minkey?

Lias
7th February 2009, 20:14
As anyone who reads my rants on here knows I am _far_ from being a left wing hippie, but I find myself very much on sea shepards side.

As far as I'm concered the NZ and Aussie armed forces should be sinking any japanese whaling vessel that comes south of the equator. Without warning. I wouldnt mind that being extended to all northern hemisphere fishing vessels of any sort :-)

Apart from the whaling issue, having japanese/russian/other trawlers anywhere near our country makes we want to buy myself a torpedo boat and start sinking the cunts. First they overfish their part of the world so now they are raping ours.. great stuff.

Pedrostt500
7th February 2009, 21:02
You Know I hate Whaling, its when I go for a swim some little nip steams up in his boat and tries to stick a harpoon in my butt, as anoying as a combi van load of hippies trying to float me out to sea when I'm tring to get some sun bathing in.