Hyo SHIT

[Hellraiser]

This might be a repost but i can't be arsed doing a search ......

Short story:

Mate bought Hyosung 8 months ago, Hyosung shit itself (no compression), bike done 23000k's, not covered under warranty.

Why you might ask ???????

Hyosungs come with a 1 year warranty or 10,000k's (no I haven't left a 0 out they only have a ten thousand Km warranty)

I bet your dealer for got to tell you that one when you bought your piece of crap .......

/End Rant

[James Deuce]

Same warranty as Kawasaki, Suzuki, and Yamaha.

Why did it shit itself? No oil? Hours rather than the seconds bouncing off the rev limiter?

Misplaced criticism, without the full story. IC engines need maintenance and watching.

[Pussy]

Same warranty as Kawasaki, Suzuki, and Yamaha.

Why did it shit itself? No oil? Hours rather than the seconds bouncing off the rev limiter?

Misplaced criticism, without the full story. IC engines need maintenance and watching.

Most Zook roadbikes come with 2 years/ unlimited km

[James Deuce]

Must've changed in the last few years, but you see my point right? ;)

[Deano]

Most Zook roadbikes come with 2 years/ unlimited km

The CBR was 2 years definitely, and also 20k (i think).

But that is a good old boring trusty HONDA.

[Deano]

Must've changed in the last few years, but you see my point right? ;)

Yep - apart from little things like build quality (you get what you pay for), I haven't heard many bad reports on Hyosung engines in here. Could be wrong. Was he trying to keep up with the Busa Hellraiser ?

Skelstar......time to defend the old handbag bro !!

[skelstar]

I bet your dealer for got to tell you that one when you bought your piece of crap .......
Bet your clever mate didn't ask either. Was the main reason I didn't buy a Hyosung after having 20,000kms brilliant kms on my 250.

[skelstar]

Skelstar......time to defend the old handbag bro !!
Bastard... go heat up some milk or something.

[quallman1234]

No compression aint a big deal.

Rings or Head gasket or massif hole in the side of the cylinder.

[skelstar]

LOL, its not your old bike (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?p=689269&postcount=4) is it HellR?

[Sparky Bills]

Hyosungs are shit!
Im sorry. But has anyone actually had a close look at one?

Honda has 2year unlimited.

[Hitcher]

Honda has 2year unlimited.

Ooh! A pissing contest! So does Yamaha.

[Hellraiser]

Was he trying to keep up with the Busa Hellraiser ?



Yeah right ......... lol

He too is a motorcycle courier and it is the bike he uses for work.

I use a DL650 which has a 2 year unlimited Km warranty which is good considering i do on average 2000k's a week.

Kawasaki's have a 2 year unlimited km warranty as well.

Not sure about Yamaha

and i don't care about Honda as i'm just not Gay enough to ride one anyway

[Coyote]

http://www.fischer1.com/suppliers.htm

Hyosung engines can't all be bad if they're using the Hyosung 650 twin alongside Ohlins and Brembos

[325rocket]

Hyosungs are shit!


why is that?

[Coyote]

http://www.fischer1.com/suppliers.htm

Just thinking about the Fischer, I want one. The $8k US works out to about $10k here. How would you get one here and how much is it likely to cost? Not as quick as some bikes I'd like to upgrade to but it'll definately be different

[McJim]

Well I was thinking of buying a hyosung GT650R but couldn't afford it so ended up with a Ducati :rofl:

Seriously, my shopping list was:
1/ Must be V Twin.
2/ Must be fully faired.
3/ Must have USD front end.
4/ Must have long service interval (the Ducati 10,000km service interval and Brembo brakes as standard clinched the deal)

[Deano]

and i don't care about Honda as i'm just not Gay enough to ride one anyway

:shutup:

I hear they are pretty boring anyway.

You got a Busa ? How's them long straights working for ya ?
:innocent:

[DUCATI*HARD]

i hate them!!!they are just a big laugh to me!!!:yes:

[Slicksta]

The Honda CBF250 came with a 2 year unlimited Kms warranty not bad for a 5grand 250cc..

[Devil]

Seriously, my shopping list was:

3/ Must have USD front end.


Out of interest.... why?

[ElCoyote]

Out of interest.... why?

That is my question too :niceone:

[McJim]

Out of interest.... why?


That is my question too :niceone:

Coz it looks way cool :woohoo: and the standard way up forks on my VTR felt like they twisted a bit when cornering hard - remember I'm a fat bastard - not like some of you skinny blokes.

[Weaver]

Its a fucken $7500 dollar bike of course its going to have a short warrenty. Your mate probably just treats it like shit.

Why it such a shit bike in your opinion Sparky Bills?

[Switch]

If you treat your bike like shit and dont maintain it, of course its gonna break down. Its not just Hyosungs, if you dont look after any bike its going to have issues. Yeah i know Hyosungs have a bad reputation and the majority of them are held together with superglue but they are a cheap bike. And they are good for what they are, getting through the licence system.

[SlashWylde]

Same warranty as Kawasaki, Suzuki, and Yamaha.

Nope. My Vulcan 800 came with a 2 year warranty. I'd have to check how many kms it was good for though.

[xwhatsit]

it is the bike he uses for work.

So let me get this straight -- a despatch rider fucks a bike within 25,000kms -- and that's surprising to you people? :laugh:

[Iain]

23000k in 8 months is pretty good... What was the problem? First service at 1000k, second at 4000k. He would have had to take it in for a lot of scheduled servicing in that 8 months considering his mileage...

[limbimtimwim]

Its a fucken $7500 dollar bike of course its going to have a short warrenty. Your mate probably just treats it like shit.Cheaper bikes have better warranties. Honda CBF250 for example. Same RRP, Suzuki DR-Z250 2yr/unlimited. My <$9000 Suzuki has a 2yr/unlimited.

It's a short warranty for the money.

[bull]

no probs when i had my Hyo, i actually read the warranty and its written in english - 10000km or 1 year whichever comes first.

Sounds like a boohoo story about a boy whom didnt look after the engine. Fits nicely into this "its someone else's fault world" dont it.

[James Deuce]

Cheaper bikes have better warranties. Honda CBF250 for example. Same RRP, Suzuki DR-Z250 2yr/unlimited. My <$9000 Suzuki has a 2yr/unlimited.

It's a short warranty for the money.

Suzuki GSXR250 $5995. 12 Months, 10000km

Yamaha R6 $14000. 12 Months, 10000km

Kawasaki Z750S $12000. 12 Months, 12000km

Those are the only bikes I've bought new.

[PrincessBandit]

Most Zook roadbikes come with 2 years/ unlimited km

Yep, my 650 Bandit is 2 years unlimited K's. (brand new).

[EnzoYug]

This mate of yours, does he work have a transformers decal on his bike?
I think I met the guy at the lights in the city several times.

Then again, couriers do get around...

Regardless, I may soon be taking possession of a GT250R with 8,000 k's on it. Never been abused, only treated with the most loving of care. It's my old bike - but I killed the outside and it should be written off, however the engine is fine. If he wants to show me some folding money I'm sure something could happen.

*PM me if he's keen and I'll let you know if I end up buying the wreck from insurance

[Hellraiser]

Sounds like a boohoo story about a boy whom didnt look after the engine. Fits nicely into this "its someone else's fault world" dont it.

No Boohoo story here ........ lol

He has had it serviced at the correct intervilles which works out every few weeks.

I know mine goes in for servicing about every 3 weeks

[scott411]

DRZ250's do not come with a 2 year warranty, their warranty is 6 months unlimited KM's,
GN250's had a one year warranty as well,
most japanese 250';s come with a 1 year warraanty,

[Fub@r]

This mate of yours, does he work have a transformers decal on his bike?
I think I met the guy at the lights in the city several times.

Then again, couriers do get around...



That guy is minus a few fairings last Itime I saw him. Fully debaffled as well?

I've done 15,000km in 12 months and besides the clutch cable snapping at 10,000 and losing the master link on my chain I've had no problems what so ever.

I've had my full license now for 4 months and still happy on my Hyo, it suits the purpose fine

[Tank]

This might be a repost but i can't be arsed doing a search ......

Short story:

Mate bought Hyosung 8 months ago, Hyosung shit itself (no compression), bike done 23000k's, not covered under warranty.

Why you might ask ???????

Hyosungs come with a 1 year warranty or 10,000k's (no I haven't left a 0 out they only have a ten thousand Km warranty)

I bet your dealer for got to tell you that one when you bought your piece of crap .......

/End Rant

When buying ANYTHING its up to the buyer to research and ask questions - not up to the salesman to say "the warranty is ....".

Shit happens (more quickly to some than others depending on how they treat their bike). I have had a brand new car spit a ECU whilst driving it home from the dealers - dosnt make all of that make shit.

Hyosungs vary in quality depending on what model you buy. All in all I think they are not bad quality for the price you pay.

[gw555]

Well all I can say is I have done 55555km in 17 months and apart from 2 early things under warranty I have had no problems at all. The bike is serviced every 4000km (approx every 5weeks) by TSS and I would buy another

[Rev DJ]

Did I hear right that Hyo originally made components for Suzuki - and that they have latterly made the move to produce their own bike range?

Any idea what components they supplied to Suzuki? Cheers DJ

[skelstar]

I believe they did produce Suzukis under licence for their domestic market for a while, but when they produced theor own bikes they snaffled some engineers from Suzuki for themselves.

[xwhatsit]

for a while

Since 1979, baby!

[Wannabiker]

I have had 2 GT250R's...still have one of them...traded the other to buy a Ducati when I got full Licence. 1 had 19000ks and the other has 11000 ks without trouble. (nope...I changed the chains at about 10000ks...which is about all they are good for)
I also believe that Hyosungs get a 2 year warranty in Aussie...its just the NZ importer that pegs it back to 1 year. (heard that somewhere)

[Hellraiser]

Verdict ...........

Broken Cam Shaft.

and still not covered under warranty.

He's planning on taking the matter to fair go

Watch this space

And it's not the bike with the transformer decal's on it either, it's a black hyo which use to be with urgent but has just started at Pace.

[Disco Dan]

they are good for what they are, getting through the licence system.

+1

You should not expect anymore from that bike...

Warranty would have been calculated to ensure majority of large expensive fixes would happen after it expires.... ie most owners take hyos in for major work after approx one year of ownership. Simple business.

Sell your bike before warranty expires... :yes:

[WarlockNZ]

Just to jump in on the tail end, my old Hyobag did 30,000 without a problem, sounds to me like your mate was treating it like a piece of crap.

There is nothing wrong with the Hyosung brand, but like any engine, if you don't look after it, it will die.

[tri boy]

It would be interesting to know what the cam bearing clearances are.
Courier riders often ride quite hard from the get go.
Lack of oil supply/pressure could mean excessive wear at the cam bearings, that leads to cam "flex", that leads to premature fractures.
Ask the shop to mic up the bearings for an accurate failure report. Poor quality oil will also contribute to cam bearing wear.;)

[Renegade]

two years and my hyo has never had a mechanical fault

[Dodger]

I also believe that Hyosungs get a 2 year warranty in Aussie...its just the NZ importer that pegs it back to 1 year. (heard that somewhere)

Correct. :angry:

[xwhatsit]

It would be interesting to know what the cam bearing clearances are.
Courier riders often ride quite hard from the get go.
Lack of oil supply/pressure could mean excessive wear at the cam bearings, that leads to cam "flex", that leads to premature fractures.
Ask the shop to mic up the bearings for an accurate failure report. Poor quality oil will also contribute to cam bearing wear.;)

I'm hardly a mechanic, but that does sound likely. Hard to blame Hyosung when a feckin' despatch rider trashes a bike :laugh: Probably had the nuts revved off it from cold, oil levels not checked, stuff like that.

[Jantar]

Verdict ...........

Broken Cam Shaft.

and still not covered under warranty.

He's planning on taking the matter to fair go.....

Good luck, but I don't think Fair Go will touch it. The bike was well out of warranty, and being used for a purpose it was never designed for.

The 250 is a learner/commuter bike, not a commercial use machine. I am suprised that anyone would use anything under 500cc for courier type work and expect it to last.

[Sparky Bills]

[B]Why it such a shit bike in your opinion Sparky Bills?


Cause the build quality is below shit. They are rubbish as far as im concerned.
But thats just my opinion.:msn-wink: (and maybe a few others too)

[McJim]

Good luck, but I don't think Fair Go will touch it. The bike was well out of warranty, and being used for a purpose it was never designed for.

The 250 is a learner/commuter bike, not a commercial use machine. I am suprised that anyone would use anything under 500cc for courier type work and expect it to last.

Bloke was probably on a restricted or learner licence therefore he either has to break the law or his children starve.

VTR250 would manage the job alright and I know of people using 225 singles for courier work.

[Tank]

Verdict ...........


He's planning on taking the matter to fair go

Watch this space


So he buys a bike and does not ask the warranty details. Uses it as a commercial transport (probably against the terms of the warranty and his insurance). Has a problem AFTER the stated warranty has expired and then thinks that FAIR GO will be bothered. Yeah right!

I'm always amazed how people ALWAYS think its someone else's fault. He needs to bite the bullet and just fix his bike like the rest of us.

Ill watch this space - but bet dollars to donuts FAIR GO wont touch it.

[jafar]

So let me get this straight -- a despatch rider fucks a bike within 25,000kms -- and that's surprising to you people? :laugh:

Well yes it is surprising , courier bikes run hot all day & are moving all day. They don't go through the heat up /cool down cycle that a commuter bike would go through & lubrication would be supplied to the entire engine with no 'cold start' wear except for the first start in the morning.
For this bike to fail as it has after such a short period of time should be investigated further.
If the bike was mine I would have the broken parts tested by an independant laboratory to see what caused the failure. Then you could say wether it was operator error or a manufacturing fault , poor design or substandard lubrication.:done:

[TKDSKIP]

For this bike to fail as it has after such a short period of time should be investigated further.
If the bike was mine I would have the broken parts tested by an independant laboratory to see what caused the failure. Then you could say wether it was operator error or a manufacturing fault , poor design or substandard lubrication.:done:[/QUOTE]

You seem to be missing the obvious, the bike is out of warranty. Wether it has been thrashed or treated like a first born it has done more kms than it is covered for under warranty. Any money spent on testing would be better spent on repairs or a replacement bike as reguardless of the outcome it is out of warranty.

[jafar]

For this bike to fail as it has after such a short period of time should be investigated further.
If the bike was mine I would have the broken parts tested by an independant laboratory to see what caused the failure. Then you could say wether it was operator error or a manufacturing fault , poor design or substandard lubrication.:done:

You seem to be missing the obvious, the bike is out of warranty. Wether it has been thrashed or treated like a first born it has done more kms than it is covered for under warranty. Any money spent on testing would be better spent on repairs or a replacement bike as reguardless of the outcome it is out of warranty.[/QUOTE]

No I'm not missing the obvious, the cams failed, the question is why.
Testing doesn't cost that much & the reason for the failure would be found, then the owner of said bike would then know what to change to stop a repeat failure in the future.
If the reason for the failure is substandard materials or lubricant THEN he can go the manufacturer for restitution & costs .
If the failure is the rider giving it death right from startup that will also show in a metal test, either way he will know
Without the testing he is just crying in his porridge.

[Morcs]

Did I hear right that Hyo originally made components for Suzuki - and that they have latterly made the move to produce their own bike range?

Any idea what components they supplied to Suzuki? Cheers DJ

My 97 bandit 250 shared a few parts with the hyobag - things like switchgear.

[scracha]

i hate them!!!they are just a big laugh to me!!!:yes:

Yeah, cos Ducati is synonymous with bulletproof.

With my current steeds I must be a gay hairdresser.

[Forest]

Bloke was probably on a restricted or learner licence therefore he either has to break the law or his children starve.

VTR250 would manage the job alright and I know of people using 225 singles for courier work.

That's a false dichotomy.

Unemployment is currently at record low levels in NZ. Your mate does not have to be a courier rider to feed his children.